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  • UK ROCKER
    Banned
    • Oct 2009
    • 259

    Gene Simmons: ‘Jacko Was An Abuser’

    Kiss bassist/vocalist Gene Simmons believes the late Michael Jackson was guilty of child molestation.
    “I knew Michael,” Simmons tells Classic Rock. “I ran into him a few times. I met him the first time before he became the superstar, when he was sort of teenagey, when he was still a Jackson Five. This was in the Cher days, when Cher and I lived together.

    “But as time moved on, and no matter what my fond memories and fond images of Michael were, with one allegation of paedophilia after another and another and another… Oh dear.

    “I knew some of the musicians he toured with, and specifically one who quit because of seeing boys coming out of the hotel rooms. And then you factor in that his travel agent was put on the stand and in court said that she was authorised to fly to Brazil and bring boys back to America for him…

    “Well, you know, where there’s smoke there’s fire. There’s no question in my mind he molested those kids. Not a doubt.

    “Michael’s on tape going, ‘Give the kids Jesus juice.’ Which is wine. I mean, it’s just endless.

    “There’s never been a single female of any age that I’ve ever known about who has ever made a claim that she has had a physical relationship with Michael, ever.

    “In fact, while he was alive, I never heard about mature men ever making that claim either – and believe me, you can’t keep it a secret. If you’re a celebrity, somebody somewhere will say, ‘Oh yeah, I shagged him.’

    “The only sexual references ever made about Michael Jackson that were made by anyone, anywhere around the world, have always been made by kids, and specifically males usually 10 to 14 years of age; never females, that age or older, and never grown men.

    “Oh, I don’t think this is going away any time soon.”

    * The above is an extract from an interview in the new issue of Classic Rock. Simmons also talks about how Bob Dylan calls him “Mr Kiss”, his relationships with Cher and Diana Ross, how he discovered Eddie Van Halen, and how he reckons he’s got better hair than Donald Trump (not difficult). The March edition of Classic Rock is on sale now.

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  • Shaun Ponsonby
    ROTH ARMY ELITE
    • Oct 2004
    • 6343

    #2
    I read that in the mag today.

    First of all, I happen to know that Jackson had more or less the same live band during his entire solo career, so the indication that "some" band members quit his band because he hung around with kids appears to be fabricated to some degree. I'm guessing the plaural was a slip of the tongue?

    Secondly, he's not on tape saying "give the kids Jesus Juice".

    Thirdly, I don't believe sex existed in Michael Jackson's world at all. He seemed completely sexless...even when he was grabbing his crotch on stage. Gene only knows two things: money and sex. He doesn't understand anything outside of that. I can almost guarantee you that MJ was asexual.

    Fourthly, Jordan Chandler's mother took to the stand during the 2005 trial and said that
    she never thought Michael Jackson ever molested her child.

    I don't know why I'm bothering, to be honest...even if the kids came forward and said it was bullshit, anyone who believes it wasn't will still believe it. It has little to do with paedohillia and more to do with celebrity.
    Fast & Bulbous, Got Me?

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    • Va Beach VH Fan
      ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
      • Dec 2003
      • 17913

      #3
      He won't let go of how he "discovered" Eddie, or Van Halen for that matter...

      But the bottom line is that Van Halen did NOT get signed as a result of Simmons, that came later, and had nothing to do with him....
      Eat Us And Smile - The Originals

      "I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth

      "We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee Roth

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      • Nitro Express
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Aug 2004
        • 32794

        #4
        Maybe Michael's problem was he needed a good fuck. Hopefully he got some from Lisa Marie. I mean bonking Elvis' daughter who is cute in her own way should have busted the heeby jeebys loose. A virgin, especially an extra old one has issues, usually some fucking busts that shit loose and builds some confidence.
        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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        • Nitro Express
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Aug 2004
          • 32794

          #5
          Mike needed to hang with Rich James. Man. I remember getting lucky with a chick in my art class to this class. Damn!

          <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/pWKY0esloSI&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/pWKY0esloSI&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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          • Panamark
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Jan 2004
            • 17113

            #6
            Originally posted by Shaun Ponsonby
            I read that in the mag today.

            First of all, I happen to know that Jackson had more or less the same live band during his entire solo career, so the indication that "some" band members quit his band because he hung around with kids appears to be fabricated to some degree. I'm guessing the plaural was a slip of the tongue?

            Secondly, he's not on tape saying "give the kids Jesus Juice".

            Thirdly, I don't believe sex existed in Michael Jackson's world at all. He seemed completely sexless...even when he was grabbing his crotch on stage. Gene only knows two things: money and sex. He doesn't understand anything outside of that. I can almost guarantee you that MJ was asexual.

            Fourthly, Jordan Chandler's mother took to the stand during the 2005 trial and said that
            she never thought Michael Jackson ever molested her child.

            I don't know why I'm bothering, to be honest...even if the kids came forward and said it was bullshit, anyone who believes it wasn't will still believe it. It has little to do with paedohillia and more to do with celebrity.
            MJ was a kiddie fiddler, members of the last Jury spoke publicly about their
            belief (based on all the past evidence they had seen) that he was indeed
            a pedo. However the case on trial didnt have enough evidence to
            finally prosecute. How many boys did he pay millions to stay silent,
            I lost track, Was it 2 or 3 ?

            I agree, "Wheres theres Smoke"

            Assexual people dont have large stashes of Gay porn in their
            possession either. That, I believe is on record.
            BABY PANA 2 IS Coming !! All across the land, let the love and beer flow !
            Love ya Mary Frances!

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            • MAX
              Rotharmy Gladiator

              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Jan 2004
              • 12968

              #7
              Originally posted by Panamark
              MJ was a kiddie fiddler.
              "Kiddie fiddler" LMAO!!! That's funny!!!

              G'Day Marky!!!

              Good to see you mate!!!

              Yeah, there's no doubt that MJ was a full blown Jackaloon!!!

              Seriously, when he dated the Home Alone kid and Webster (YES, taking them to events hand in hand qualify as dates!!!) waived in the red flag right there. Goodness knows what else?

              Plus, that poor fucking "Bubbles" he prolly diddled that chimp's nuts too I'd bet Neverland Ranch on it!!!

              Fucking freak.

              Not you Marky.
              EAT US AND SMILE!!!!

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              • Panamark
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Jan 2004
                • 17113

                #8
                Originally posted by MAX
                "Kiddie fiddler" LMAO!!! That's funny!!!

                G'Day Marky!!!

                Good to see you mate!!!

                Yeah, there's no doubt that MJ was a full blown Jackaloon!!!

                Seriously, when he dated the Home Alone kid and Webster (YES, taking them to events hand in hand qualify as dates!!!) waived in the red flag right there. Goodness knows what else?

                Plus, that poor fucking "Bubbles" he prolly diddled that chimp's nuts too I'd bet Neverland Ranch on it!!!

                Fucking freak.

                Not you Marky.
                Good to see you to MAXIMUS !!

                Treadin the boards with the same enthusiasm again !!

                With MJ, I was like Ponsonby, the first time it came to light that he
                maybe playing with little boys, I was like "Oh but he didnt have a real
                childhood and thinks he is a kid... blah blah etc etc"
                But fuck me..... Year after Year of new boys and payoffs and court cases
                and evidence and yeah, thats a lot of smoke !!

                I think anyone who believes he didnt at least diddle those kids
                is in total denial.
                BABY PANA 2 IS Coming !! All across the land, let the love and beer flow !
                Love ya Mary Frances!

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                • chefcraig
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 12172

                  #9
                  Ya know, I treat this whole "Gene Simmons Discovered Eddie Van Halen" routine much the same way that I view the "Columbus Discovered America" deal. I mean, think about it for a minute...Your boat accidentally comes across some uncharted land, and there not only appears to be a group of people onshore waving at your ass, they also happen to be holding a fucking BBQ. And you steadfastly claim that it was you that discovered this?









                  “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
                  ― Stephen Hawking

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                  • kwame k
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 11302

                    #10
                    Agreed and the demos of Gene's were..... brilliant in the rawness of it but by no means even what I'd call close to getting to what VH was all about.....I know it's just a demo but.....

                    Come on now Gene, your record label was more interested in getting Disco acts and fad followers than ever caring about the art....You're a fucking businessman, what the hell were you bringing a product to a company you know had no interest in it, talk about dumb. Don't even tell me for a second you didn't see dollar $$$'s when you "discovered" Van Halen......instead of looking at that as an achievement, look at it as a failure....the one that got away.

                    If Teddy T didn't produce VHI do you think we'd have Eruption on tape?
                    And Casablanca couldn't of got Ted.

                    It took seeing them in a bar for the right people, at the right time to discover the essence/vibe of VH.....Gene's influence on VH would of led to Spammy being in the band by about Women and Children First.
                    Originally posted by vandeleur
                    E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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                    • GAR
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 10849

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Shaun Ponsonby
                      Secondly, he's not on tape saying "give the kids Jesus Juice".
                      It's in the videotape, fuckin retard.

                      Why are you schilling for Wacko Jacko's cred?

                      Go fuck some little boys, ShamePedoschilly!

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                      • kwame k
                        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 11302

                        #12
                        Originally posted by GAR
                        It's in the videotape, fuckin retard.

                        Why are you schilling for Wacko Jacko's cred?

                        Go fuck some little boys, ShamePedoschilly!
                        ....says the guy who pisses on little boys
                        Originally posted by vandeleur
                        E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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                        • Blackflag
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 3406

                          #13
                          Originally posted by GAR
                          Why are you schilling for Wacko Jacko's cred?
                          Then before he was defending Michael Jackson, he was defending Bob Geldof. Not sure which is worse, but who the hell is this guy?

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                          • GAR
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 10849

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Panamark
                            I think anyone who believes he didnt at least diddle those kids
                            is in total denial.
                            Isn't it odd, that it takes such a gross guy as this to point out the obvious?

                            WTF is wrong with people. They're so GAGA for this guy - all he did was sing other people's songs, and dance.

                            You'd think with all the oddballs everywhere, MJ was some fucking Saint. Even my chick says he was wonderful. She didn't meet him, it's just all the press and the celebrity of it all.

                            Fuck MJ. He's dead and yet, he just won't fucking die already!

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                            • GAR
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 10849

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Blackflag
                              .. but who the hell is this guy?
                              Posonby is an oppositionist: point a flaw, he'll flip it.

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