Did The Russians or Russian Rebels Shoot Down a Malaysian Airliner?

[ELVIS]

I think I will be avoiding CNN coverage of this one.

Maybe CNN International, if I can find a decent stream on XBMC, but that's as far as I go.

You really think there's a difference between CNN and CNN international ??

It's a western propaganda network not unlike ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX or the BBC...

[DLR Bridge]

But again, "who benefits", in that scenario. Surely they wouldn't be trying to take Vladdie out? And I don't see why they would want to kill a bunch of civilans from other countries.

Could be a game of dirty pool (or poot). Perhaps, he's thinking that if he were able to convince everyone that the Ukranians did it, it would throw the heat and hate off of him and onto them. A long shot, horribly stupid idea, but hey, we're talking about the guy who likes to be photographed shirtless riding a horse.

[vandeleur]

It's still a flight path for many major airlines, the no fly zone only extends to 30, 000 feet . Commercial flights are higher than that . Though British airways doesn't fly over that part of Ukraine .

Pretty counter intuitive to fly commercial airlines over war zones to put it mildly .

[ELVIS]

I'd be looking at the Obomba administration, the CIA and George Soros before I blame Putin...

This is like blaming 911 on Putin...

[DONNIEP]

but hey, we're talking about the guy who likes to be photographed shirtless riding a horse.

Hell yeah, that's what you can do when you run a country!

[DLR Bridge]

I'd be looking at the Obomba administration, the CIA and George Soros before I blame Putin...

This is like blaming 911 on Putin...

Not even close.

[vandeleur]

I'd be looking at the Obomba administration, the CIA and George Soros before I blame Putin...

This is like blaming 911 on Putin...

Rather than untrained jumpy jacks in control of high grade weapons .

[DONNIEP]

Rather than untrained jumpy jacks in control of high grade weapons .

Exactly. You got a bunch of pumped up rebels that got hold of a launcher and said "What's the point in having this fucker if we don't use it??" So they think they see a military transport plane, cause they're all juiced up on cheap Ukrainian vodka and somebody says "Shoot that sumbitch!"

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Exactly. You got a bunch of pumped up rebels that got hold of a launcher and said "What's the point in having this fucker if we don't use it??" So they think they see a military transport plane, cause they're all juiced up on cheap Ukrainian vodka and somebody says "Shoot that sumbitch!"

it's like you've been to my house...

[DONNIEP]

it's like you've been to my house...

Just peeping in the windows from time to time.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Just peeping in the windows from time to time.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

The pro-rebel website Russkaya Vesna on Friday quoted Igor Girkin as saying he was told by people at the crash site that "a significant number of the bodies weren't fresh," adding that he was told they were drained of blood and reeked of decomposition.

[DLR Bridge]

Was the missing plane a 777?

[vandeleur]

As supposed to witnesses seeing bodies falling from the sky on the bbc .

[vandeleur]

This isn't going to be some weird conspiracy . If it wasn't this plane it would be one of the dozens of others who flew over there everyday to the Far East . It's a major flight path .

It's massive news in Newcastle , of of the two toon fans is a bit of celeb for seeing Newcastle all over the world . He was going to watch them on an overseas tour . Obviously lol .

This is on first look a passenger plane above some fucking morons with hardware . Putin should come clean and go fuck , that wasn't meant to happen we will bring these guys to justice .
But both sides will play the blame deny game .