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Yeah. I try to make it over to Hong Kong every couple of years. Don’t think I will be going over this year.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar! -
Yeah Hong Kong is a mess... along with Israel... North Korea is building nuclear capable super subs... etc..."If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”Comment
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North Korea is just a puppet to China. China played nice for 40 years. We outsourced our industry to them. Our presidents gave them our military technology. They infiltrated us and bought off our government officials and politicians.Originally posted by ZahZoo View Post
Now they have pulled their mask off. I think China will take Hong Kong and make it part of the PRC. They will start threatening Taiwan. They are throwing their weight around in the South China Sea.
We were told the 21st century belongs to China and we can trust them because they are non-aggressive. Some bullshit they successfully got our university professors to parrot.
Ha! Ha! People are going to see the real world is much different than what they were told it was going to be.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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Em, no, they aren't actually. China has some influence but DPRK is hardly a Chinese puppet, they annoy the Chicoms as much as they annoy us, maybe more. The refugee/illegal immigrant situation causes headaches for the Chinese. There has been talk that if the North attacked the South that the Chinese PLA might invade the North to prevent them from using nukes....Originally posted by Nitro Express View Post
A bit of hyperbole to say the least, the Chinese have always been listed as a potential enemy, but you like your cheap shit at Walmart as much as I do...China played nice for 40 years. We outsourced our industry to them. Our presidents gave them our military technology. They infiltrated us and bought off our government officials and politicians.
Maybe but don't speak of China as if it is a truly unified state with no internal issues, they have many and can't just easily drop everything, their economy is already beginning the transition away from manufacturer to outsourcer and it is now probably close to declining a bit...Now they have pulled their mask off. I think China will take Hong Kong and make it part of the PRC. They will start threatening Taiwan. They are throwing their weight around in the South China Sea.
Who the fuck ever said that?We were told the 21st century belongs to China and we can trust them because they are non-aggressive. Some bullshit they successfully got our university professors to parrot.
It always is, but you ain't calling it apparently...Ha! Ha! People are going to see the real world is much different than what they were told it was going to be.Last edited by Nickdfresh; 10-06-2019, 05:29 PM.Comment
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Spent part of my childhood in Hong Kong. Know a lot more about China and Asia than you do. Ask any US intelligence officer who has experience with North Korea and China if North Korea is a puppet state of China. Google China belongs to the 21st Century. This has been a common theme in business schools since the 1990’s.Originally posted by Nickdfresh View Post
As far as Walmart goes never set a foot in one ever.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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Sure buddy...Originally posted by Nitro Express View Post
All evidence to the contrary...Know a lot more about China and Asia than you do.
I was in South Korea, you knob, STFU...Ask any US intelligence officer who has experience with North Korea and China if North Korea is a puppet state of China. Google China belongs to the 21st Century. This has been a common theme in business schools since the 1990’s.
I go for the auto stuff only pretty much...As far as Walmart goes never set a foot in one ever.Comment
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Here's a "Google" result: https://www.latrobe.edu.au/nest/what...a-really-like/
No really a "puppet", eh?What’s China’s relationship with North Korea really like?
The latest nuclear test by North Korea has focused the world’s attention on China. Much of the international community believes China is key to making North Korea behave. But just how powerfully can China pressure its only ally?
La Trobe’s Nick Bisley, Professor of International Relations and Executive Director of La Trobe Asia, unpacks their tricky partnership to reveal the limits to China’s control.
An uneasy partnership with geopolitical perks
Since the rapid division of the Korean Peninsula at the end of the Second World War, North Korea has acted as a physical and political buffer between China and US-allied South Korea. China supported North Korea during the Korean War (1950–1953). And in 1961, the Chinese and North Korean governments signed the Sino-North Korean Mutual Aid and Cooperation Friendship Treaty. The treaty formalised their relationship and remains in effect today.
According to Nick, the treaty means China is beholden to help North Korea if an outside military attack occurred. Notwithstanding this, he says, they are ‘uneasy bedfellows’.
“The treaty says, ‘We’re with you, we’ll protect you’. It doesn’t mean they have to like each other,” says Nick.
“Even though North Korea is right next to China, even though China had lost hundreds of thousands of soldiers defending North Korea, they never really got along. Through the Cold War, the principal supporter of North Korea was the Soviet Union, not China.”
Rather than being friendly allies, then, China and North Korea are partners of geopolitical necessity. Their relationship is fraught – historically, even their views on Communism differ. To date, three generations of the Kim family dictatorship have ruled North Korea. This family succession was something former Chinese Communist Party Chairman Mao Tse-Tung ‘completely opposed’.
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I just find it really inconceivable that their nuclear super subs won't be completely shit.Originally posted by ZahZoo View Post
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As long as they equip them with top quality screen doors they'll be fine...Originally posted by Seshmeister View Post"If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”Comment
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The subs built by the drug cartels are probably better quality.Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.Comment
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Hooking up with Trump is Rudy's last shot at political relevance in terms of proximity to actual power, as opposed to opining on the Fox News channel, or getting paid to speak at various conservative think tank gatherings, or running a consultancy business...all of which are lucrative enough, but not the same as having the ear of the President.Originally posted by Seshmeister View Post
His run at the 2008 GOP nomination demonstrated that he didn't have any national appeal in terms of actually getting elected to power. The Obama years saw Rudy in virtual eclipse in terms of political relevance outside of appearing on tv talking to audiences already inclined to agree with his views, which is to say Giuliani's political relevance, say, post-2008 has been virtually nil.
I will say that once in for Trump, Rudy has been all in. As to why, I sometimes think it can't be as simple as the rationale of getting attention that I laid out, yet I can't think of another reason as to why.
It should be said, though, that even the New Yorkers who applauded Giuliani's tenure as mayor of New York City in terms of the crime rate dropping...there were plenty of them who knew Rudy was an unabashed prick. I mean, look at the way he informed his second wife they were divorcing: via a press conference. It was also telling that Giuliani didn't win the New York primary in 2008 (the one state you'd assume he would be a shoo-in for).
His leadership on the ground in NYC on September 11th, 2001 helped provide a counterweight to the assholish image he had cultivated for himself prior to that day. Eventually, that 9/11 luster wore off, as his dismal performance in the 2007 GOP cycle as the "I was mayor of New York on 9/11" candidate demonstrated. Untethered from having to run for office again, he spent the Obama years claiming Obama didn't love America and was an anti-colonial socialist.
Basically, once it became clear he wasn't going to be elected to anything again, Rudy didn't so much gradually morph into who he is today, but rather was free to be more of who he was all along, minus the (in his case, minimal) amount of restraint most elected officials publicly demonstrate. He and Trump are both of like minds in terms of how they view race and class, plus that tough guy/mafia wannabe New Yorker swagger such men affect to give themselves an aura of manly steel. Plus, they both had better things to do than serve their countries in Vietnam.
It's to Trump's lack of judgment that he thinks Rudy is doing him any good on the legal front. Rudy had, to a degree, been an effective public prosecutor in the 1980s. I've never heard the same applied to Rudy being a cunning legal mind re: as a private defense attorney.
What Rudy, taking a cue from his client, IS doing is attempting to muddy up the waters by making a lot of false equivalency comparisons between Trump and the Bidens re: Ukraine, and throwing a lot of facts out in interviews that are either out of context, or misconstrued, or just plain twisted.
I wonder of Rudy thinks he will be the one person Trump won't discard/throw under the bus no matter what. It'd seem to be a huge error on Giuliani's part to think that Trump wouldn't walk away from [Giuliani] in a heartbeat if Trump determines Rudy no longer serves his purposes.Scramby eggs and bacon.Comment
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I believe that has already happened...Originally posted by Terry View Post
Donald Trump distances himself from Rudy Giuliani: 'He has been my attorney'
Michael Collins, John Fritze and David Jackson USA TODAY
Published 6:47 PM EDT Oct 11, 2019
WASHINGTON – President Donald Trump sought Friday to distance himself from attorney Rudy Giuliani, even casting doubts about whether the former New York mayor is still his lawyer.
Asked whether Giuliani remained his personal attorney, Trump said: “I don’t know.”
“I haven't spoken to Rudy,” Trump told reporters as he was leaving the White House for a political rally in Louisiana. “I spoke to him yesterday, briefly. He's a very good attorney and he has been my attorney, yeah sure.”
Giuliani told USA TODAY shortly afterward that he’s still Trump's lawyer. “He hasn't told me otherwise,” he said.
Giuliani has emerged as a central figure in the Ukraine scandal that has led to an impeachment inquiry against Trump over efforts to push Ukrainian officials to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden, the Democratic presidential frontrunner.
Trump's pit bull: From 'America's mayor' to Trump's pit bull: Rudy Giuliani emerges as central figure in Ukraine firestorm
Trump’s remarks followed the arrest late Wednesday of two of Giuliani’s associates, Ukranian-born business partners Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, at Dulles International Airport. The two were arrested by FBI agents and charged with in connection with alleged schemes to funnel foreign money to U.S. political campaigns...
I also think there is way way more chance that Giululani will end up being prosecuted than Trump ever being impeached...
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That could well be the case, in that it appears Rudy was walking a very thin line between the raindrops in terms of what was legal re: the Logan Act and Ukraine, regardless of if Giuliani was doing so with Trump's expressed or implied consent.Scramby eggs and bacon.Comment
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Now he'll be walking a tightrope of giving Micheal Cohen a happy ending or not after being the powerbottom...Originally posted by Terry View PostComment
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I figure Giuliani is an expendable tool in this swamp expedition... I see no viable end game in any of this that benefits anyone involved on either side. Not a damn good thing can come of it...
What concerns me most is what horrific, tragedy is quietly brewing that will knock this bullshit off center stage and we wake up with the world in far different, terrible place."If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”Comment
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