U.S. Death Toll In Iraq Exceeds 1,000

[Sgt Schultz]

For Democrats and other left wing radicals, any bad news, defeats, and deaths from Iraq are welcomed as good news. Any positive news (which greatly outweighs the bad in reality) is ignored.

These "Americans", who desire a U.S. defeat in Iraq, welcome the latest bad news of the U.S. death toll in Iraq exceeding 1,000.

This is particularly good news, in their minds, since the arbitrary number has come before the November 2 election.

However, this victory for the Left may ring a bit hollow. Statistics show the following regarding U.S. Armed Forces deaths in Iraq;

Total U.S. killed in action in Iraq = 753*

*Breakdown of U.S. killed in action
U.S. Killed in action from hostile fire in battle = 521
U.S. Killed from roadside bombs = 202
U.S. Killed from “hostile vehicle accidents” = 23
U.S. Killed from friendly fire = 7

Non combat deaths in Iraq (most) include the following;
vehicle accidents 90, non-hostile helicopter crashes 22, non-hostile accidental weapon discharges 14, non-hostile accidental drownings 15, ordnance accidents 15, non-hostile unspecified causes 10, various illness 21, electrocution 6, heart attack 8, unspecified injury 3, not reported 3, weapon malfunction 3, accidental fall 3, accidents 5, homicide 2, fire 1.

Since active duty troops, during peacetime and routine training suffer identical non-combat related deaths as those seen above, the Democratic celebration may be a bit premature. Democrats can only hope and pray for a large battle to ensue between now and November 2 so that U.S. killed in action does reach their goal of 1,000.

Afghanistan

In Afghanistan, which most Democrats give lukewarm support, there has been little mention of casualties.

U.S. killed in action in Afghanistan = 42

Breakdown of U.S. KIAs in Afghanistan
Killed in action from hostile fire in battle = 33
Killed in action friendly fire = 1
Killed in action from IEDs = 8

Non Combat Deaths in Afghanistan = 36
(Includes deaths from Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait)

Deaths (unspecified cause) in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Uzbekistan, Kuwait, Northern Arabian Sea, Persian Gulf and the Northern Arabian Peninsula = 45

Accidental plane crashes in the Philippines = 8


For statistics please see
The Iraq Coalition Casualty Count (http://lunaville.com/oif/Stats.aspx)

[worldbefree]

It's funny how the number suddenly jumped to the 1000 mark. This way the press was caught off guard and couldn't build up over a period of days until the 1000 mark was passed. Another slick move by the Republicans. It will all come back to haunt them in November.

[Sgt Schultz]

Originally posted by worldbefree
It's funny how the number suddenly jumped to the 1000 mark. This way the press was caught off guard and couldn't build up over a period of days until the 1000 mark was passed. Another slick move by the Republicans. It will all come back to haunt them in November.

You can't be serious. The press (and the Democrats, well, the same thing) have been talking about 1,000 deaths in Iraq for at least a month now.

[knuckleboner]

Originally posted by Sgt Schultz


Total U.S. killed in action in Iraq = 753*



killed "in action."

non-combat deaths are still deaths. and the fact is that over 1000 U.S. soldiers have died in iraq.

how, and why one chooses to use this fact is certainly up for debate.


(and no, the # didn't just jump to 1000. the press didn't keep a running tally through the 800s. it did report 2 deaths here and 4 deaths there, but didn't total them up until it started approaching the mid to high 900s. that's because we all think round numbers are significant. 1000 is a lot more significant thatn 950, but 1050 isn't really that much more significant than 1000.)

[Wayne L.]

John Kerry will use this 1000 soldier killed in Iraq to his advantage against George W. Bush in typical Democrat style as will other anti-war far left Democrats but it will backfire on them in November because whining about it isn't a solution which is why the war on terror is a good thing to protect freedom.

[worldbefree]

Originally posted by Sgt Schultz
You can't be serious. The press (and the Democrats, well, the same thing) have been talking about 1,000 deaths in Iraq for at least a month now.

Until a few days ago the death toll being reported by almost every news organization I've seen was I beleive in the mid 800's. Granted the press has been talking about the 1000 mark but not as much as the would have when the number being reported was 950+.

Give me a break you don't find it odd that in one day the number jumps 100+. Take your head out of your arse. This administration will do what ever it takes to deflect criticism from itself.

[Sgt Schultz]

Originally posted by worldbefree
Until a few days ago the death toll being reported by almost every news organization I've seen was I beleive in the mid 800's. Granted the press has been talking about the 1000 mark but not as much as the would have when the number being reported was 950+.

Give me a break you don't find it odd that in one day the number jumps 100+. Take your head out of your arse. This administration will do what ever it takes to deflect criticism from itself.

Here are abstracts just from newspapers May 1 - July 1, 2004. This of course does not count TV. If you want I'll post all of the articles from July 2 - Sept 7, 2004 but it will take up a lot of room.

A moment of silence for those who gave all
Joseph L. Galloway. Knight Ridder Tribune News Service. Washington: May 26, 2004.

“Memorial Day is all the more poignant because we are a nation at war and the conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq have now contributed nearly 1,000 dead to that roll of honor. Not many, you say? Ask the mother, or the widow and fatherless children, how heavy just one death in combat weighs on them.”

BATTLEFIELDS FAR AWAY, BUT WARS COME HOME
Palm Beach Post. West Palm Beach, Fla.: May 31, 2004. pg. 14.A
EDITORIAL
“At its heart, though, Memorial Day remains an occasion for the country to recognize formally those men and women who went to war and didn't come back. Battle deaths in the country's history number almost 700,000, including about 1,000 in Iraq and Afghanistan.”

Time for family fun, somber reflection
Lancaster New Era. Lancaster, Pa.: May 31, 2004. pg. 1
EDITORIAL
“In the newest challenge to our national will, the war against terror in Iraq and Afghanistan, nearly 1,000 of our troops have died in the effort to preserve our freedom and to establish that same freedom in a troubled part of the world that for centuries has known only tyranny and servitude.”


JANUARY GROUNDBREAKING SET FOR CENTRAL COMMAND MEMORIAL; [Broward Metro Edition]
Vickie Chachere The Associated Press. South Florida Sun - Sentinel. Fort Lauderdale, Fla.: Jun 1, 2004. pg. 7.B
“As the death toll in Iraq and Afghanistan continued to grow, the design changed. There will be at least 1,000 names listed at the memorial, including those of more than 800 soldiers killed in Iraq and the more than 120 killed in and around Afghanistan.”

Iraq's tortured hope
Toronto Star. Toronto, Ont.: Jun 28, 2004. pg. A.26
Editorial
“This liberation has come at a high price. U.S. President George Bush's ill-conceived rush to oust [Saddam Hussein] took 15,000 Iraqi lives, 1,000 Americans and allies, and cost $200 billion.”

No cause for celebrations ; COMMENT
Daily Mail. London (UK): Jun 29, 2004. pg. 12
“Nearly 1,000 Allied and 2,500 Iraqi troops have been killed, along with 104 civilian contractors, 20 journalists and an estimated 11,000 civilians. The bill for the U.S. is a breathtaking Pounds 70billion, while British taxpayers have paid Pounds 6billion.”

Bring back the . . . (don't say 'draft') ; No. 1 lesson from Iraq: Every American should share the sacrifice. Consider a 'Patriot Corps.';
Don Campbell. USA TODAY. McLean, Va.: Jul 1, 2004. pg. A.15
“Too many people seem to view sacrifice in wartime as giving up a few square inches on the rear window of their SUV for a flag decal and a slogan that says "United We Stand." But sacrifice is what has happened to the families of the 3,000 victims of 9/11, the nearly 1,000 U.S. troops who've died in Afghanistan and Iraq, the full- time military regulars who have served in the Iraq theater and the reservists and Guardsmen who've been called up for extended tours of active duty.”

[Sgt Schultz]

When I posted this I entitled it THusly

U.S. Death Toll In Iraq Exceeds 1,000
Democrats Celebrate!

Why has the "Democrats Celebrate!" been deleted FORD????????

Censorship??????????????

[Big Train]

sounds like it to me....

[worldbefree]

What exactly is your point? What do these articles have to do with the deceptive ways of the Bush administration when it comes to the death toll in IRAQ going over 1000? The number being reported was below 900 until yesterday, then all of a sudden it shoots up.

You guys will defend anything, it's truely pathetic. I almost want to see Bush win and continue his spending spree so he can drive the country into a depression. Then of course it will be Bill Clinton's fault.

Bush can't run on his record so all he can do is attack Kerry, telling the American people that the world is going to sink into the Abyss if Kerry is elected. This administration is an embarrassment to our country.

Has Cheney tied in the killings in Russia to 9/11 yet? It's only a matter of time I guess if he already hasn't.


Originally posted by Sgt Schultz
Here are abstracts just from newspapers May 1 - July 1, 2004. This of course does not count TV. If you want I'll post all of the articles from July 2 - Sept 7, 2004 but it will take up a lot of room.

A moment of silence for those who gave all
Joseph L. Galloway. Knight Ridder Tribune News Service. Washington: May 26, 2004.

“Memorial Day is all the more poignant because we are a nation at war and the conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq have now contributed nearly 1,000 dead to that roll of honor. Not many, you say? Ask the mother, or the widow and fatherless children, how heavy just one death in combat weighs on them.”

BATTLEFIELDS FAR AWAY, BUT WARS COME HOME
Palm Beach Post. West Palm Beach, Fla.: May 31, 2004. pg. 14.A
EDITORIAL
“At its heart, though, Memorial Day remains an occasion for the country to recognize formally those men and women who went to war and didn't come back. Battle deaths in the country's history number almost 700,000, including about 1,000 in Iraq and Afghanistan.”

Time for family fun, somber reflection
Lancaster New Era. Lancaster, Pa.: May 31, 2004. pg. 1
EDITORIAL
“In the newest challenge to our national will, the war against terror in Iraq and Afghanistan, nearly 1,000 of our troops have died in the effort to preserve our freedom and to establish that same freedom in a troubled part of the world that for centuries has known only tyranny and servitude.”


JANUARY GROUNDBREAKING SET FOR CENTRAL COMMAND MEMORIAL; [Broward Metro Edition]
Vickie Chachere The Associated Press. South Florida Sun - Sentinel. Fort Lauderdale, Fla.: Jun 1, 2004. pg. 7.B
“As the death toll in Iraq and Afghanistan continued to grow, the design changed. There will be at least 1,000 names listed at the memorial, including those of more than 800 soldiers killed in Iraq and the more than 120 killed in and around Afghanistan.”

Iraq's tortured hope
Toronto Star. Toronto, Ont.: Jun 28, 2004. pg. A.26
Editorial
“This liberation has come at a high price. U.S. President George Bush's ill-conceived rush to oust [Saddam Hussein] took 15,000 Iraqi lives, 1,000 Americans and allies, and cost $200 billion.”

No cause for celebrations ; COMMENT
Daily Mail. London (UK): Jun 29, 2004. pg. 12
“Nearly 1,000 Allied and 2,500 Iraqi troops have been killed, along with 104 civilian contractors, 20 journalists and an estimated 11,000 civilians. The bill for the U.S. is a breathtaking Pounds 70billion, while British taxpayers have paid Pounds 6billion.”

Bring back the . . . (don't say 'draft') ; No. 1 lesson from Iraq: Every American should share the sacrifice. Consider a 'Patriot Corps.';
Don Campbell. USA TODAY. McLean, Va.: Jul 1, 2004. pg. A.15
“Too many people seem to view sacrifice in wartime as giving up a few square inches on the rear window of their SUV for a flag decal and a slogan that says "United We Stand." But sacrifice is what has happened to the families of the 3,000 victims of 9/11, the nearly 1,000 U.S. troops who've died in Afghanistan and Iraq, the full- time military regulars who have served in the Iraq theater and the reservists and Guardsmen who've been called up for extended tours of active duty.”

[Sgt Schultz]

Originally posted by worldbefree
What exactly is your point? What do these articles have to do with the deceptive ways of the Bush administration when it comes to the death toll in IRAQ going over 1000? The number being reported was below 900 until yesterday, then all of a sudden it shoots up.

You guys will defend anything, it's truely pathetic. I almost want to see Bush win and continue his spending spree so he can drive the country into a depression. Then of course it will be Bill Clinton's fault.

Bush can't run on his record so all he can do is attack Kerry, telling the American people that the world is going to sink into the Abyss if Kerry is elected. This administration is an embarrassment to our country.

Has Cheney tied in the killings in Russia to 9/11 yet? It's only a matter of time I guess if he already hasn't.

My point is that the press has been saying since MAY that U.S. deaths in Iraq are almost 1,000 and they HAVE been saying it quite a bit in the last few weeks.

As far as Bush being deceptive about it - where do you think the press gets the casualty figures - from the Bush administration. See below

DOD Casualties Press Releases (http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/)

CENTCOM Casualties Press Releases (http://www.centcom.mil/CENTCOMNews/casualties.asp?searchType=1&searchDays=5&searchTopic=)

Multi National Corps Iraq (http://www.cjtf7.com/media-information/news-releases.htm)

So to reiterate. The press has been talking about "1,000 deaths" in Iraq for a long time, and particulary so in the last few weeks. And, the source of their information is the Bush Administration.

NO SOURCE claimed the number was "900 yesterday". Cite it if you think it's the case.

[Sgt Schultz]

Here's more proof of the Press' obsession with "1,000 Dead in Iraq" as posted HERE by DLR's Cock

August 12 - Milestone of 1,000th U.S. Death in Iraq Looms for Bush (http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8964)

[DLR'sCock]

Over 1003 US soldiers killed...

Over 7,000 US Soldiers wounded...serious casualties...

Over 12,000 US soldiers treated in US medical facilities in Germany from Iraq...

Over 20,000 Iraqi civillians killed(50% of the population is 17 and under)...

Over 30,000 Iraqi civillians wounded...


The numbers climb daily...



An unknown number of Iraqi soldiers killed and wounded...

[Sgt Schultz]

So why the censorship of my post headline moderators..???

[Angel]

IMO, most democrats have and understand compassion. Celebrate death? No, IMO, they are mourning the death of US soldiers, right along with the deaths of Iraqi citizens. :(

[DLR'sCock]

No one celebrates death...

[Sgt Schultz]

Originally posted by DLR'sCock
No one celebrates death...

Except the Democrats who want the U.S. to lose this war, like it when they hear bad news from Iraq and like it when they hear of more U.S. casualties there.

[FORD]

Nobody is celebrating the 1,000 Americans Bush murdered in Iraq. But Bush was celebrating the 2700 he murdered in NYC for his entire convention.

And nobody censored your post, unless there was a dick picture in it.

[ELVIS]

Originally posted by Sgt Schultz
So why the censorship of my post headline moderators..???


It was not me...

[ELVIS]

Originally posted by FORD
Nobody is celebrating the 1,000 Americans Bush murdered in Iraq.


Oh bullshit! Your above statement is proof positive of your sick celebration...

You people salivate over that kind of shit...

[Sgt Schultz]

Originally posted by FORD
Nobody is celebrating the 1,000 Americans Bush murdered in Iraq. But Bush was celebrating the 2700 he murdered in NYC for his entire convention.

And nobody censored your post, unless there was a dick picture in it.

The subheadline on this thread was,
"Democrats Celebrate!"

and it was there for at least a 1/2 hour. Then it was gone. Computer glitch I guess.

Can we at least try to be honest with each other here? There are a lot of anti-Bush people who have been excitedly anticipating the "1,000 U.S. Dead" story and it is everywhere in the press today and the Democrats are excitedly talking about it. Let's not kid each other, the Democrats

1. Want the U.S. to lose the war in Iraq
2. See "bad news" from Iraq (any death or setback) in a positive light becasue they think it will harm Bush.

And another thing, soldiers killed in combat have not been murdered, you are denigrating their sacrifice, and dishonoring them by saying that.

[ELVIS]

Did you remove those words FORD ??

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by Sgt Schultz
Except the Democrats who want the U.S. to lose this war, like it when they hear bad news from Iraq and like it when they hear of more U.S. casualties there.

You know, coming from someone who constantly speaks up for a gang of murdering thugs, that's pretty fucking rich.

No one in this country wants us to lose this war because anyone with a brain knows what that entails. We would all be much happier if the Iraqis chilled the hell out and we found some real WMD. But it was all bullshit. I'd be glad to vote for Bush if he wasn't a liar surrounded by imcompetents.

[Sgt Schultz]

Originally posted by ODShowtime
You know, coming from someone who constantly speaks up for a gang of murdering thugs, that's pretty fucking rich.

No one in this country wants us to lose this war because anyone with a brain knows what that entails. We would all be much happier if the Iraqis chilled the hell out and we found some real WMD. But it was all bullshit. I'd be glad to vote for Bush if he wasn't a liar surrounded by imcompetents.

No one in this country wants us to lose? Really? Then why all of the howling to "bring the troops home now" and "end the occupation" and "no blood for oil" etc etc etc?? If the Left in this country wants us to actually prevail in Iraq then they would not be calling for an end to U.S. troops in the country. How exactly will the U.S. win without any troops there?

[FORD]

Originally posted by ELVIS
Did you remove those words FORD ??

Nope.

[ELVIS]

Ok...