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  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10625

    Rather Concedes Papers Are Suspect

    Rather Concedes Papers Are Suspect
    CBS Anchor Urges Media to Focus On Bush Service

    By Howard Kurtz
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Thursday, September 16, 2004; Page A01

    CBS anchor Dan Rather acknowledged for the first time yesterday that there are serious questions about the authenticity of the documents he used to question President Bush's National Guard record last week on "60 Minutes."

    "If the documents are not what we were led to believe, I'd like to break that story," Rather said in an interview last night. "Any time I'm wrong, I want to be right out front and say, 'Folks, this is what went wrong and how it went wrong.' "


    Rather spoke after interviewing the secretary to Bush's former squadron commander, who told him that the memos attributed to her late boss are fake -- but that they reflect the commander's belief that Bush was receiving preferential treatment to escape some of his Guard commitments.

    The former secretary, Marian Carr Knox, is the latest person to raise questions about the "60 Minutes" story, which Rather and top CBS officials still defend while vowing to investigate mounting questions about whether the 30-year-old documents used in the story were part of a hoax. Their shift in tone yesterday came as GOP critics as well as some media commentators demanded that the story be retracted and suggested that Rather should step down.

    "This is not about me," Rather said before anchoring last night's newscast. "I recognize that those who didn't want the information out and tried to discredit the story are trying to make it about me, and I accept that."

    For Rather, 72, it is an all-too-familiar role. In his CBS career, he has survived an impertinent exchange with President Richard M. Nixon during Watergate, a clandestine trek through the mountains of Afghanistan, an on-air confrontation with George H.W. Bush over Iran-contra and a much-debated sitdown with Saddam Hussein in Baghdad.

    Now, on the final leg of a career launched by a Texas hurricane, Rather is trying to weather his biggest storm. And some of his closest friends and associates are concerned.

    "I think this is very, very serious," said Bob Schieffer, CBS's chief Washington correspondent. "When Dan tells me these documents are not forgeries, I believe him. But somehow we've got to find a way to show people these documents are not forgeries." Some friends of Rather, whose contract runs until the end of 2006, are discussing whether he might be forced to make an early exit from CBS.

    In her interview with Rather yesterday, Knox repeated her contention that the documents used by "60 Minutes" were bogus. Knox, 86, worked for Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian while he supervised Bush's unit in the early 1970s.

    "I know that I didn't type them," Knox said of the Killian memos. "However, the information in there is correct," she said, adding that Killian and the other officers would "snicker about what [Bush] was getting away with."

    Rather said he was "relieved and pleased" by Knox's comments that the disputed memos reflected Killian's view of the favorable treatment that Bush received in the military unit. But he said, "I take very seriously her belief that the documents are not authentic." If Knox is right, Rather said, the public "won't hear about it from a spokesman. They'll learn it from me."

    But he also delivered a message to "our journalistic competitors," including The Washington Post and rival networks: "Instead of asking President Bush and his staff questions about what is true and not true about the president's military service, they ask me questions: 'How do you know this and that about the documents?' "

    CBS News President Andrew Heyward defended the work that went into the Guard story. "I feel that we did a tremendous amount of reporting before the story went on the air or we wouldn't have put it on the air," Heyward said last night. "But we want to get to the bottom of these unresolved issues," including questions about the memos' typography, signatures and format. "There's such a ferocious debate about these documents."

    Heyward said the account by Knox is "significant, which is why we're putting it on our prime-time program," "60 Minutes."

    As a former Houston reporter, White House correspondent and "60 Minutes" regular, Rather has always taken pride in unchaining himself from the anchor desk to cover wars, political campaigns and various other crises. Determined not to be just a multimillion-dollar news reader like some younger-generation stars, he continued to anchor "48 Hours" before finally giving it up and to contribute pieces to "60 Minutes," even at the cost of being stretched thin. So it was not unusual for Rather to be crashing an investigative piece, as he did last week.

    The most controversial of the three broadcast network anchors who took the reins in the early 1980s -- the others are ABC's Peter Jennings, 66, and NBC's Tom Brokaw, 64, who is retiring after the election -- Rather has long drawn the most headlines and the sharpest criticism from conservatives who view him as biased.


    "Dan is a lightning rod, compared to Brokaw and Jennings, because of his personality," said Lawrence Grossman, a former president of PBS and NBC News. "He's had some very strange incidents. His colorful use of language makes him a little quirky in many people's eyes. So he's a little vulnerable."

    But ABC News executive Tom Bettag, who once produced Rather's evening news, said his friend has been "quite extraordinary" in shouldering the burden. "He is the sort of person who could easily say 'this is a team effort,' but he's one of those anchors who puts it all on his shoulders and doesn't pass it down the line to anyone else," Bettag said.

    Bernard Goldberg, a longtime CBS correspondent who has turned sharply critical of his former employer, said he believes that Rather was duped and will survive. But, he said, "CBS News is acting the way the Nixon administration did during Watergate. I'm really sad to say that Dan Rather is acting like Richard Nixon. It's the coverup, it's the stonewalling."

    Nicholas Lemann, dean of Columbia University's Graduate School of Journalism, said that "if it turns out CBS got this wrong, it's very damaging." He added that Rather "has a 'hot' personality that provokes strong reactions."

    That may be an understatement. Rather has a penchant for down-home Texas truisms, the sort of globe-trotting that earned him the nickname "Gunga Dan" for his Afghan foray, and plain old strange behavior -- such as signing off his broadcasts for a time with the word "courage."

    In 1986, he was mugged on Park Avenue with one of his attackers shouting, "Kenneth, what is the frequency?" In 1987, the network went to black because Rather had angrily walked off the set in the belief that a U.S. Open tennis match would bump his broadcast. In 1988, he got into an emotional shouting match with then-Vice President Bush, who accused Rather of being unfair. In 2001, he apologized for speaking at a Democratic fundraiser in Texas in which his daughter was involved.

    His career has seemed revitalized in the past year and a half. He landed an interview with then-Iraqi President Saddam Hussein shortly before the U.S. invaded Iraq and the first sitdown with Bill Clinton about his autobiography. And with producer Mary Mapes, who also spearheaded the National Guard story, Rather broke the news of Iraqi prisoners being abused at Abu Ghraib -- after agreeing to a two-week delay at the Bush administration's request.

    Once the most watched of the three anchors' broadcasts, Rather's show has been ranked third for several years. Now he is even the target of a new Web site, Rathergate.com.

    Some media analysts are already comparing the Guard controversy to the 1993 fiasco in which NBC's "Dateline" apologized for staging the fiery crash of a truck, and the 1998 debacle in which CNN apologized for the "Tailwind" story that accused U.S. troops of using nerve gas during the Vietnam War.

    "Dan knows that trying to do a story about a Republican president is immediately going to stir up a hornet's nest from the conservatives who have jumped on him since the Nixon days," Bettag said. "He could have been excused for saying 'I don't need this kind of grief.' But he didn't."

    As Rather signed off to rush back into the studio last night, he sounded a defiant note.

    "I try to look people in the eye and tell them the truth," Rather said. "I don't back up. I don't back down. I don't cave when the pressure gets too great from these partisan political ideological forces."
    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush
  • freak
    Sniper
    • May 2004
    • 980

    #2
    Translation: Mr. Rather, defuse this situation or retire.

    Tell ya what, Danny Boy, you want to win your journalism halo back? Investigate who's actually responsible for peddling this shit. If, of course, you aren't part of the scam.

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    • ELVIS
      Banned
      • Dec 2003
      • 44120

      #3
      He is part of it...

      He underestimated todays news junkies...

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      • freak
        Sniper
        • May 2004
        • 980

        #4
        Originally posted by ELVIS
        He is part of it...

        He underestimated todays news junkies...
        That CBS exec's slam on the blogsphere was pretty funny.

        Trying to paint the whole thing as mommy's basement types.

        You'd be amazed at how many PHds are out there running blogs.

        The Internet has too many intellegent eyes. It makes for an amazing bullshit filtration system.

        If you're going to present evidence to the world, you'd best be certain your ducks are all in a row before you set out. Long gone are the days where Mom and Pop got their world-view from Brinkley and Chancellor.

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        • ELVIS
          Banned
          • Dec 2003
          • 44120

          #5
          Originally posted by freak

          The Internet has too many intellegent eyes. It makes for an amazing bullshit filtration system.

          ..and FORD spells bullshit as far as the DLRArmy is concerned!

          Fuck that conspiracy bullshit!

          It won't see the light of day as lond as I'm here...

          You can believe that, FORD, Bitch!

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          • Warham
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Mar 2004
            • 14589

            #6
            Rather says he wants to break the story that the documents are fake!?

            LMAO!

            He's a true news veteran!

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            • freak
              Sniper
              • May 2004
              • 980

              #7
              Originally posted by Warham
              Rather says he wants to break the story that the documents are fake!?

              LMAO!

              He's a true news veteran!
              The official CBS stance is this:
              "The documents are in all likelihood fake but what they say is true. Please disregard the fake documents and take our word that their contents is true. We have corroborating evidence from the testimony of an 86 year old secretary to the long-dead man who's true opinion was expressed in the aformentioned document."

              CBS has zero credibility at this point.

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              • John Ashcroft
                Veteran
                • Jan 2004
                • 2127

                #8
                Even Andy Rooney says so...

                Rooney'd rather CBS fessed up

                CBS curmudgeon Andy Rooney indicated yesterday he believes the controversial documents on President Bush's National Guard service are fake and said it could cost Dan Rather down the road.
                "I'm surprised at their reluctance to concede they're wrong," Rooney said, referring to CBS brass.

                Despite praising Rather as "a good, honest newsman," Rooney added, "I'm unsure if they're whistling in the dark instead of apologizing."

                The flap over the documents has rocked CBS News, has Republicans calling for Rather's head and has people questioning the credibility of Rather instead of Bush.

                Rooney doesn't think the network would try to ease out Rather over the memo mess, but he added, "It might have an effect on him six months from now."

                You mean, "Continue to have an effect on him six months from now"...

                Rooney and other CBS staffers are still holding out hope that Rather will produce something to authenticate the supposed memos from the early 1970s that criticized Bush's record in the Texas Air National Guard.

                Alex Jones, head of the Shorenstein Center on the Press, Politics and Public Policy at Harvard, described a recent phone call from Rather: "He is very much aware that this is his story, his responsibility, and he's got to sort it out and resolve it."

                Jones added, "Journalism is a human activity. If they made a mistake, they should own up to it, take the bullet and move on."

                CBS News spokeswoman Sandy Genelius said there has been no consideration of Rather stepping down, but others were less certain of Rather's standing.

                "If Dan Rather wants to stay at the 'CBS Evening News' and be the premier anchor at the network, this whole imbroglio didn't help him," said Max Robins, editor in chief of Broadcasting & Cable magazine.

                However, unlike NBC News, which has groomed Brian Williams to take over from Tom Brokaw after the presidential election, CBS has no succession plan.

                The betting is that CBS White House correspondent John Roberts or "60 Minutes" correspondent Scott Pelley will one day succeed Rather, who's 72.

                Link: here

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                • ODShowtime
                  ROCKSTAR

                  • Jun 2004
                  • 5812

                  #9
                  What pisses me off is that these documents don't even say anything that revolutionary. We all know Bush was a lazy, good-for-nothing, spoiled, rich kid incompetent. Some take issue with this, such as myself, others accept that it's a necessary evil these days in politics, and some just believe whatever he says or don't even care.

                  I mean, if there's gonna be fake documents, I want postive drug tests, repremands for saturday evening AWOL festivities, receipts from tiajuana abortion doctors, you know, juicy stuff!!

                  This is bullshit! It's like the fake documents discredit the real facts. Gee, who benefits from that? Well played Rovie
                  gnaw on it

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                  • John Ashcroft
                    Veteran
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 2127

                    #10
                    We don't all "know" that at all dude. But if you're gonna insist, we also all "know" that Kerry didn't deserve a single one of his medals, and fabricated tall tales to get them (complete with war-footage reenactments for the video camera).

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                    • FORD
                      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                      • Jan 2004
                      • 58785

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ODShowtime
                      What pisses me off is that these documents don't even say anything that revolutionary. We all know Bush was a lazy, good-for-nothing, spoiled, rich kid incompetent. Some take issue with this, such as myself, others accept that it's a necessary evil these days in politics, and some just believe whatever he says or don't even care.

                      I mean, if there's gonna be fake documents, I want postive drug tests, repremands for saturday evening AWOL festivities, receipts from tiajuana abortion doctors, you know, juicy stuff!!

                      This is bullshit! It's like the fake documents discredit the real facts. Gee, who benefits from that? Well played Rovie
                      Yeah, there hasn't been this much fuckup over allegedly "false evidence" since Markkk Fuhrman and the LAPD framed a guilty man for a double homicide back in 1994.

                      If the documents are "fake" it's likely that Dan was set up, and the right wing blog who posted the alleged "proof" is likely Rove operatives.

                      OJ didn't deserve to get away with his crimes just because a racist cop fucked up, and Junior doesn't deserve to get away with his either.
                      Eat Us And Smile

                      Cenk For America 2024!!

                      Justice Democrats


                      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                      • ODShowtime
                        ROCKSTAR

                        • Jun 2004
                        • 5812

                        #12
                        I'm sayin'
                        gnaw on it

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                        • ODShowtime
                          ROCKSTAR

                          • Jun 2004
                          • 5812

                          #13
                          Originally posted by John Ashcroft
                          We don't all "know" that at all dude. But if you're gonna insist, we also all "know" that Kerry didn't deserve a single one of his medals, and fabricated tall tales to get them (complete with war-footage reenactments for the video camera).
                          I can't believe he actually took a camera to Vietnam. Do you really think he was planning his political career back then? I guess if idolized JFK and read Profiles of Courage it is believable. I'd be worried about saving my neck if I was in those jungles.
                          gnaw on it

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                          • John Ashcroft
                            Veteran
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 2127

                            #14
                            One would think...

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                            • ODShowtime
                              ROCKSTAR

                              • Jun 2004
                              • 5812

                              #15
                              I should make a Kim Jong Il Character. that would be fun.
                              gnaw on it

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