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  • frets5150
    Commando
    • Feb 2004
    • 1461

    Did our troops finally wake up

    Updated: 01:04 PM EDT
    Former Soldiers Slow to Report
    500 Ready Reservists Seek Exemptions From Reactivation, Risk AWOL Status

    By Tom Squitieri, USA TODAY
    Sept. 28) - Fewer than two-thirds of the former soldiers being reactivated for duty in Iraq and elsewhere have reported on time, prompting the Army to threaten some with punishment for desertion.The former soldiers, part of what is known as the Individual Ready Reserve (IRR), are being recalled to fill shortages in skills needed for the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan
    Of the 1,662 ready reservists ordered to report to Fort Jackson, S.C., by Sept. 22, only 1,038 had done so, the Army said Monday. About 500 of those who failed to report have requested exemptions on health or personal grounds.

    "The numbers did not look good," said Lt. Col. Burton Masters, a spokesman for the Army's Human Resources Command. "We are tightening the system, reaching the people and bringing them in."

    Masters said most of the requests for exemptions are likely to be denied: "To get an exemption, it has to be a very compelling case, such as a severe medical condition."

    The figures are the first on the IRR call-up. They reflect the challenges the Pentagon faces in trying to find enough troops for ongoing operations and show resistance among some servicemembers who returned to civilian life.

    The ready reserve is an infrequently used pool of former soldiers who can be called to duty in a national emergency or war. On June 29, the Army announced it would call 5,674 members of its IRR back to active duty this year and next.

    Several of those who received recall notices have already been declared AWOL (absent without official leave) and technically are considered deserters. "We are not in a rush to put someone in the AWOL category," Masters said. "We contact them and convince them it is in their best interests to show up. If you are a deserter, it can affect you the rest of your life."

    Fourteen people were listed as AWOL last week; six subsequently told the Army they would report. Punishment for being AWOL is up to the unit commander and can include prison time and dishonorable discharge, said Col. Joseph Curtin, an Army spokesman

    With a force that generals say is stretched thin, the Army is considering $1,000-a-month bonuses to ex-soldiers who volunteer to return for overseas duty.

    Ready reservists are soldiers who were honorably discharged after finishing their active-duty tours, usually four to six years, but remain part of the IRR for the rest of their original eight-year commitment. The IRR call-up is the first major one in 13 years, since 20,277 troops were ordered back for the Persian Gulf War.
  • ELVIS
    Banned
    • Dec 2003
    • 44120

    #2
    Nice title...

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    • FORD
      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

      • Jan 2004
      • 58787

      #3
      ".....If you are a deserter, it can affect you the rest of your life...."

      Unless your last name is Bush.
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      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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      • lms2

        #4
        "We contact them and convince them it is in their best interests to show up. If you are a deserter, it can affect you the rest of your life."

        With a force that generals say is stretched thin, the Army is considering $1,000-a-month bonuses to ex-soldiers who volunteer to return for overseas duty.

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        • DrMaddVibe
          ROTH ARMY ELITE
          • Jan 2004
          • 6682

          #5
          What the article fails to mention is that once seperated from the military, soldiers return to the workforce...return to school...return to Life.

          They don't shirk their responsibilities like the article is trying to point out. When I raised my hand and swore to defend the Constitution I did so seriously without reservation. I knew there was a possiblilty that I could get called into combat. Then again...there might not be any military action. It was a risk that I took to defend this great nation against enemies foreign and domestic. An oath that shouldn't be taken lightly.
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          • FORD
            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

            • Jan 2004
            • 58787

            #6
            Congratulations on your first worthwhile post.
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            • frets5150
              Commando
              • Feb 2004
              • 1461

              #7
              “ "We contact them and convince them it is in their best interests to show up. If you are a deserter, it can affect you the rest of your life." ”


              Umm That sounds familiar the M A F I A maybe...

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              • DrMaddVibe
                ROTH ARMY ELITE
                • Jan 2004
                • 6682

                #8
                No...it sounds like the obligation that they signed up for!

                If you don't like it...don't sign up for it.
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                • FORD
                  ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                  • Jan 2004
                  • 58787

                  #9
                  Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
                  No...it sounds like the obligation that they signed up for!

                  If you don't like it...don't sign up for it.
                  From my reading of the article... and other recent articles I have read, it would appear that the obligation they had signed up for had been fulfilled. Now the BCE is asking them to extend that duty and making it sound like AWOL or desertion if they do not comply.

                  If this is the case, then it's a DRAFT, as voluntary service no longer applies.
                  Eat Us And Smile

                  Cenk For America 2024!!

                  Justice Democrats


                  "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                  • ELVIS
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 44120

                    #10
                    Spin it FORD...

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                    • frets5150
                      Commando
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 1461

                      #11
                      Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
                      No...it sounds like the obligation that they signed up for!

                      If you don't like it...don't sign up for it.
                      True very true but once your in your in.

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                      • FORD
                        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                        • Jan 2004
                        • 58787

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ELVIS
                        Spin it FORD...
                        How is this a spin......
                        Fewer than two-thirds of the former soldiers being reactivated for duty
                        "Former" means they used to be. "Reactivated" means not active. Therefore, the logical conclusion is that these soldiers have done the duty they signed up for and that any choice to sign up again should be voluntary, as should the choice to decline. They are not AWOL nor are they deserters if the duty that they signed on for is completed.

                        Now on the other hand, Junior himself never completed his 6 year obligation to the Texas ANG. This means that he *is* subject to reactivation, and I recommend his ass be placed on the front line in Fallujah.
                        Eat Us And Smile

                        Cenk For America 2024!!

                        Justice Democrats


                        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                        • ELVIS
                          Banned
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 44120

                          #13
                          I thought you could read ?!?

                          Individual Ready Reserve (IRR)

                          Did you read that part ??

                          Take off the liberal blinders for a second, my friend...

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                          • FORD
                            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                            • Jan 2004
                            • 58787

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ELVIS
                            I thought you could read ?!?

                            Individual Ready Reserve (IRR)

                            Did you read that part ??

                            Take off the liberal blinders for a second, my friend...
                            How about your blinders?

                            If they have to dig this deep just to put bodies on the ground in Iraq (to avoid a draft before the election) then why isn't the question being asked....

                            Who the FUCK is defending the USA??

                            If the regular military, the Reserves, the National Guard, and the IRR, which would be the backup of the backup's backup are out of the country, then who the Hell is HERE?

                            So we have "experts" telling us that an Al Qaeda attack is a "high probablity" before the election (5 weeks away) and there's nobody to secure America because Dipshit and his cabal of treasonous Likud shitheads made a mess that they can't clean up, in a country that NEVER WAS A FUCKING THREAT TO THE UNITED STATES???

                            And you think people will vote for that stupid assed son of a bitch again??
                            Eat Us And Smile

                            Cenk For America 2024!!

                            Justice Democrats


                            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                            • ELVIS
                              Banned
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 44120

                              #15
                              No matter what, President Bush will be fairly re-elected...

                              Seriously dude, you should cut down on the curse words...

                              Cursing is not helping your cause, it's hurting it...

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