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  • Big Train
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    • Apr 2004
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    Last Night's Kerry Eggos..



    ONE: Claimed “I’ll Never Give A Veto To Any Country Over Our Security.”_ (Sen. John Kerry, First Presidential Debate, Miami, FL, 9/30/04)



    ü_____ Preemption Must Pass “Global Test” First._ “No president, though all of American history, has ever ceded, and nor would I, the right to preempt in any way necessary to protect the United States of America. But if and when you do it, Jim, you have to do it in a way that passes the test, that passes the global test where your countrymen, your people understand fully why you’re doing what you’re doing and you can prove to the world that you did it for legitimate reasons.”_ (Sen. John Kerry, First Presidential Debate, Miami, FL, 9/30/04)



    ü_____ Kerry Would Wait On French And Russians To Defend America._ SEN. JOHN KERRY: “I would have done what was necessary to know that you had exhausted the available remedies with the French and the Russians.” (MSNBC’s “Hardball,” 10/20/03)



    TWO: Claimed “Reason For Going To War Was Weapons Of Mass Destruction, Not The Removal Of Saddam Hussein.” _ (Sen. John Kerry, First Presidential Debate, Miami, FL, 9/30/04)



    ü_____ Kerry Said “Greatest Threat” Was Saddam’s “Miscalculation,” Not “Actual” WMDs._ KERRY: “I would disagree with John McCain that it’s the actual weapons of mass destruction he may use against us, it’s what he may do in another invasion of Kuwait or in a miscalculation about the Kurds or a miscalculation about Iran or particularly Israel. Those are the things that – that I think present the greatest danger. He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat.”_ (CBS’ “Face The Nation,” 9/15/02)



    THREE: Claimed “This President Has Made, I Regret To Say, A Colossal Error Of Judgment. And Judgment Is What We Look For In The President Of The United States Of America.”_ (Sen. John Kerry, First Presidential Debate, Miami, FL, 9/30/04)



    ü_____ Kerry Questioned Judgment Of Those Claiming Saddam’s Capture Didn’t Help U.S. Security._ “Those who doubted whether Iraq or the world would be better off without Saddam Hussein and those who believe today that we are not safer with his capture don’t have the judgment to be president or the credibility to be elected president.”_ (CNN’s “Capital Gang,” 12/20/03; Anne Q. Hoy, “Dean Faces More Criticism,” [New York] Newsday, 12/17/03)



    FOUR: Complained “We Are 90 Percent Of The Casualties And 90 Percent Of The Cost: $200 Billion – $200 Billion That Could Have Been Used For Health Care, For Schools, For Construction, For Prescription Drugs For Seniors, And It’s In Iraq.”_ (Sen. John Kerry, First Presidential Debate, Miami, FL, 9/30/04)



    ü_____ Kerry Pledged To Fund Reconstruction With “Whatever Number” Of Dollars It Took._ NBC’S TIM RUSSERT: “Do you believe that we should reduce funding that we are now providing for the operation in Iraq?”_ SEN. JOHN KERRY: “No. I think we should increase it.”_ RUSSERT: “Increase funding?”_ KERRY: “Yes.”_ RUSSERT: “By how much?”_ KERRY: “By whatever number of billions of dollars it takes to win. It is critical that the United States of America be successful in Iraq, Tim.”_ (NBC’s “Meet The Press,” 8/31/03)



    FIVE: Claimed “You Don’t Send Troops To War Without The Body Armor That They Need.”_ (Sen. John Kerry, First Presidential Debate, Miami, FL, 9/30/04)



    ü_____ Kerry Said It Would Be Reckless And “Irresponsible” To Vote Against Funding For Troops._ LOS ANGELES TIMES’ DOYLE McMANUS: “If that amendment does not pass, will you then vote against the $87 billion?”_ KERRY: “I don’t think any United States senator is going to abandon our troops and recklessly leave Iraq to whatever follows as a result of simply cutting and running. That’s irresponsible. What is responsible is for the administration to do this properly now. And I am laying out the way in which the administration could unite the American people, could bring other countries to the table, and I think could give the American people a sense that they’re on the right track. There’s a way to do this properly. But I don’t think anyone in the Congress is going to not give our troops ammunition, not give our troops the ability to be able to defend themselves. We’re not going to cut and run and not do the job.”_ (CBS’ “Face The Nation,” 9/14/03)



    ü_____ Kerry Voted Against Senate Passage Of Iraq/Afghanistan Reconstruction Package That Included “Money For Body Armor For Soldiers.”_ (S. 1689, CQ Vote #400: Passed 87-12: R 50-0; D 37-11; I 0-1, 10/17/03, Kerry Voted Nay; “Highlights Of Iraq, Afghanistan Measures,” The Associated Press, 10/17/03)



    ü_____ ‘“I Actually Did Vote For The $87 Billion Before I Voted Against It,’ [Kerry] Said.”(Glen Johnson, “Kerry Blasts Bush On Protecting Troops,” The Boston Globe, 3/17/04)



    SIX: Said Americans In Iraq Not Dying For “Mistake.”_ PBS’ JIM LEHRER: “Are Americans now dying in Iraq for a mistake?”_ KERRY: “No, and they don’t have to, providing we have the leadership that we put – that I’m offering.”_ (Sen. John Kerry, First Presidential Debate, Miami, FL, 9/30/04)



    ü_____ Earlier In Debate, Kerry Called Iraq War “Mistake.”_ “We can’t leave a failed Iraq. But that doesn’t mean it wasn’t a mistake of judgment to go there and take the focus off of Osama bin Laden. It was.”_ (Sen. John Kerry, First Presidential Debate, Miami, FL, 9/30/04)



    ü_____ “But The President Made A Mistake In Invading Iraq.”_ (Sen. John Kerry, First Presidential Debate, Miami, FL, 9/30/04)



    SEVEN: Said Knowing What He Knows Now, “Would Not” Have Authorized Use Of Force._ “What I think troubles a lot of people in our country is that the president has just sort of described one kind of mistake. But what he has said is that, even knowing there were no weapons of mass destruction, even knowing there was no imminent threat, even knowing there was no connection with al Qaeda, he would still have done everything the same way. Those are his words._ Now, I would not.”_ (Sen. John Kerry, First Presidential Debate, Miami, FL, 9/30/04)



    ü_____ Said Knowing What He Knows Now, “Would Have Voted For The Authority.”_ SEN. JOHN KERRY: “Yes, I would have voted for the authority. I believe it’s the right authority for a president to have. But I would have used that authority as I have said throughout this campaign, effectively. I would have done this very differently from the way President Bush has.”_(CNN’s “Inside Politics,” 8/9/04)



    EIGHT: Claimed “The President Says That I’m Denigrating These Troops. I Have Nothing But Respect For The British, Tony Blair, And For What They’ve Been Willing To Do.” _ (Sen. John Kerry, First Presidential Debate, Miami, FL, 9/30/04)



    ü_____ Kerry Dismissed Coalition Partners As “Window Dressing” And Claimed They’re Not Sharing Burden Of War And Reconstruction._ CNN’S BILL HEMMER: “The White House would say that dozens of countries are helping now in the effort on the ground in Iraq and they are engaged with the U.N., as well, how would more international involvement prevent the violence we’re seeing today?”_ SEN. JOHN KERRY: “Well, the fact is that those countries are really window dressing to the greatest degree. And they weren’t there in the beginning when we went in, and they’re not carrying the cost of this war.”_ (CNN’s “American Morning,” 3/2/04)



    NINE: Claimed “I’ve Had One Position, One Consistent Position, That Saddam Hussein Was A Threat.”_ (Sen. John Kerry, First Presidential Debate, Miami, FL, 9/30/04)



    ü_____ Kerry Said, “We Now Know That Iraq Had No Weapons Of Mass Destruction, And Posed No Imminent Threat To Our Security.”_ (Sen. John Kerry, Remarks At New York University, New York, NY, 9/20/04)



    TEN: Claimed “My Position Has Been Consistent: Saddam Hussein Is A Threat. He Needed To Be Disarmed.”_ (Sen. John Kerry, First Presidential Debate, Miami, FL, 9/30/04)


    “Saying There Are Weapons Of Mass Destruction In Iraq Doesn’t Make It So.”_ (Sen. John Kerry, Remarks To Democrat National Convention, Boston, MA, 7/29/04)



    ü_____ “I Have Always Said We May Yet Even Find Weapons Of Mass Destruction.”_ (Fox News’ “Fox News Sunday,” 12/14/03)
  • Warham
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Mar 2004
    • 14589

    #2
    I still don't know how somebody could see any consistency in that guy.

    He goes with the polls.

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    • Big Train
      Full Member Status

      • Apr 2004
      • 4013

      #3
      The guy is pretty damning of himself. I'm surprised that there haven't been more liberal comments on this...

      Are we all just making these statements up, or are you just comfortable with statements that have no real meaning?

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      • BigBadBrian
        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
        • Jan 2004
        • 10625

        #4
        FORD, sticky this.
        “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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        • Big Train
          Full Member Status

          • Apr 2004
          • 4013

          #5
          Elvis, Sticky this....

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          • John Ashcroft
            Veteran
            • Jan 2004
            • 2127

            #6
            This is my point with Kerry. So, the left is all excited because he "won" the debate.

            All I can say is he peddled his lies eloquently last night. Does that mean he won an honest debate?

            I think the transcripts of the encounter will expose the debate for exactly what it was.

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            • ELVIS
              Banned
              • Dec 2003
              • 44120

              #7
              Okeedokee...


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              • BigBadBrian
                TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                • Jan 2004
                • 10625

                #8
                Bump
                “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                • Mezro
                  Full Member Status

                  • May 2004
                  • 4153

                  #9
                  Originally posted by John Ashcroft
                  This is my point with Kerry. So, the left is all excited because he "won" the debate.

                  All I can say is he peddled his lies eloquently last night. Does that mean he won an honest debate?

                  I think the transcripts of the encounter will expose the debate for exactly what it was.
                  I want to see an all out, no-holds-barred debate. The people would really get to know these guys then.

                  Mezro...forget the moderators; let them hit each other with refrigerators...
                  Got me a date with a shaved Asian. I know, I know; I think it's fucked!

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                  • ELVIS
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 44120

                    #10
                    I've tried to sticky this thread, it's not working...

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                    • Big Train
                      Full Member Status

                      • Apr 2004
                      • 4013

                      #11
                      Keep trying...try deselecting the Ford Commie button..ha ha...

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                      • Big Train
                        Full Member Status

                        • Apr 2004
                        • 4013

                        #12
                        Bump...

                        I will keep bumping until it becomes a sticky..

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                        • McCarrens
                          Foot Soldier
                          • May 2004
                          • 705

                          #13
                          Bump...
                          "The security around the hotel was ridiculous. This chick was pounding and screaming at my door until four or five in the morning....finally I said fuck it, and let her out of the room"

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                          • FORD
                            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                            • Jan 2004
                            • 58785

                            #14
                            There's absolutely no reason to sticky this. Those who have seen it and wished to respond to it have done so, and had no problems finding it. BTW, most of that shit is entirely out of context anyway, but I don't have the time to debug it right now.
                            Eat Us And Smile

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                            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                            • FORD
                              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                              • Jan 2004
                              • 58785

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Mezro
                              I want to see an all out, no-holds-barred debate. The people would really get to know these guys then.

                              Mezro...forget the moderators; let them hit each other with refrigerators...
                              I want to see a real debate as well. Fuck the "bipartisan" corporatist commission and get the League of Women Voters back into the mix.
                              Eat Us And Smile

                              Cenk For America 2024!!

                              Justice Democrats


                              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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