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  • Kristy
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Aug 2004
    • 16338

    Hey Panamark!

    I still couldn't find the exact article for you but did find an interesting interview with Eddie in the December 1996 of 'Guitar World Magazine' (Vol 16) in where he basically blames everyone and anything before him. So this is no new news - but I will post some quotes from Eddie himself for you so that I won't feel so bad about not finding the right article.


    GW: "What were some of the naggin issues between you and Dave"?


    The Village Idiot: "We're from different planets, we don't communicate. I'm not saying that he's a bad person at all - I actually fucking love the guy but I don't need all of his fucking negative energy around me."


    Hmm...interesting since Roth (to me) wrote some of the most positive songs in the history of rock and roll. True, I'm not a Van Halen fan but you have to admit 'Jump' is such a feel good song. So, fuck you, Eddie.

    GW: "What were your issues with Sammy?"

    The Ponce: "He got irritated with me being involved with the lyric writing (no jokes, please - me) and he stopped being a team player. I'd say we had problems on every album except 5150. It came to a head when Sammy didn't want to work with producer Andy Johns and wanted to work with Ted Templeton instead, because Ted lets him get away with everything. Sammy was also dead against the 'Greatest Hits' package because he was afraid it would lead to comparisons between and Roth"


    Gee, you think? Are you starting to see a pattern here?

    GW: "Speaking of David Lee Roth, how did he come back into - and out of - the picture?"

    The Brother Grim: "Dave happened to call me around the same time he heard Sammy quit because Warner Bros told him a 'Greatest Hits' was coming out and he had a few questions about the packaging. We were on the phone for 45 minutes and we apologized for things we had said back since high school...we were never really friends. I decided to drive over to his house and told him the basic idea was to do the CD half with him and half with Sammy, but Sammy wanted more of his songs than Dave's."



    In other words, he used that lame excuse to fuck Dave out of the royalties he deserved; no concern or afterthought of what what the fans wanted. Eddie could care less about what Sammy thought but how convenient for him nonetheless to play the Sammy card. What a little fucker!


    As for you, Panamark....

    GW: "What was going to Dave's house like?"

    The Town Drunk: We had a great time and just bullshitted. We smoked cigars and I hung out for about 3 hours. Then, I remembered that we had a song...'Human Beings' and I came up with the crazy idea that Dave sing on it. So I called Dave and asked him if he would be interested. And Dave said, 'sure, why not.' I was very clear that he wasn't in the band - that this was just a project. What I wanted to do was write five songs and pick the best two out of the five."


    Somehow, I don't see Dave as saying "sure, why not." More like, "sure, let me talk to my lawyer to make for certain you don't fuck me over twice." As far as the "bullshitting" goes I can see the two of them together and Dave smacking him upside his head and asking, "dude, what in the FUCK is wrong with you!?"


    As for the songs, Eddie went on to say "We had this pop song 'Me Wise Magic' and a shuffle 'Can't Get This Stuff No More.' Dave hated the song because of the line 'I know what you are thinking.' Dave thought it was too angry or something. I thought the song was majestic; it takes you on a ride with so many changes. I later nicknamed it 'The Three Faces of Shamus,' because of the 3 parts to the song. During the recording process, Dave and I were really becoming friends again; my heart wanted to believe that he had changed."

    So first he said they were never really friends and then he said they we "becoming friends." Eddie, you make Kerry look good when it comes to indecision of an issue. So there's that take on any other songs he did with Roth - according to Eddie.

    Anyway, that killed about 5 minutes...the feature goes on about the MTV awards and Eddie's choices with other vocalist he like to "work" with. I bet none of this helped, oh well. I'll keep on looking.
    Last edited by Kristy; 10-05-2004, 11:10 PM.
  • MAX
    Rotharmy Gladiator

    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Jan 2004
    • 12975

    #2
    Not sure if this should be closed?

    Shouldn't this be a PM?

    I'll let my stellar mate Panamark decide.
    EAT US AND SMILE!!!!

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    • Kristy
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Aug 2004
      • 16338

      #3
      Oh, I'm sorry...I would have PM'd that to him but he had made mention of others who might be interested in hearing it. I don't know if the article already appears on the forum or not. I'll delete it if you want.

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      • guwapo_rocker

        #4
        Originally posted by MAX
        Not sure if this should be closed?

        Shouldn't this be a PM?

        I'll let my stellar mate Panamark decide.
        Why?

        It was a good read....I don't know what the references to

        Mark are about, and I don't care.

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        • DLRdelight!
          Veteran
          • Jul 2004
          • 1501

          #5
          Crazy article my friend

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          • Matt White
            • Jun 2004
            • 20497

            #6
            EVH peddled the same shit in an GUITARWORLD interview at the same time KRISTY. "DAVE sucks the life out of me" was his line in that interview. Funny, 'cause I remember EVH saying that DAVE accused him of "Only being happy when I was miserable" back when they first broke up back in 1985. Nice bit of REVISIONIST HISTORY by EVH.
            I also love "We were becoming friends" bit. REALLY?!? Knowing now that EVH had ALREADY screwed DAVE out of his royalties around this time, makes EVH all the more devious. Shake DAVE's hand while stabbing him in the back with the other hand.
            FUCK YOU EVH, YOU LYING SACK OF SHIT!!!!

            DAVE OR THE GRAVE MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!!

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            • Classic
              Groupie
              • Sep 2004
              • 88

              #7
              Who is Ted Templeton?

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              • sambo
                Sniper
                • Jun 2004
                • 912

                #8
                presume they mean Ted TempleMAN, Early VH producer...
                Go home the Earth is full....

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                • Panamark
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 17113

                  #9
                  Kristy !!

                  Awesome read anyways ! It almost answers the question.
                  Ed was saying he had five songs for Dave to choose from.

                  How heartbreaking is it (as a fan or real Van Halen) to hear
                  Eddie say he was becoming friends with Dave again...

                  Cruel !

                  Thanks for posting this, there was info in there Ive never
                  read before. Im sure others will enjoy it too !
                  BABY PANA 2 IS Coming !! All across the land, let the love and beer flow !
                  Love ya Mary Frances!

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                  • ZahZoo
                    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                    • Jan 2004
                    • 8967

                    #10
                    Originally posted by MAX
                    Not sure if this should be closed?

                    Shouldn't this be a PM?

                    I'll let my stellar mate Panamark decide.
                    Better take a break from the Sheep Pen bud... this mod stuff is going to your head...
                    "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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                    • Northern Girl
                      Full Member Status

                      • Jan 2004
                      • 3956

                      #11
                      Panamark,
                      What article is she trying to find for ya? Maybe someone else can help?
                      Same ole song and dance...

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                      • Carmine Raguzza
                        Groupie
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 62

                        #12
                        You know what gets lost in all of eddies "anti-dave" stuff, when Eddie was diagnosed with cancer, it was David Lee Roth who got involved and lended his friendship to Ed by referring him to his Dr. realtive who was a cancer specialist. I forget what the relation to dave was. To me, that shows yet another true level of class on Daves part.
                        " You know I go from rags to riches"

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                        • MAX
                          Rotharmy Gladiator

                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 12975

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ZahZoo
                          Better take a break from the Sheep Pen bud... this mod stuff is going to your head...

                          Thanks a lot ZZ, that wont give me a complex or anything.......

                          *sucking my thumb*
                          EAT US AND SMILE!!!!

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                          • DavidLeeNatra
                            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 10704

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Panamark
                            Kristy !!

                            Awesome read anyways ! It almost answers the question.
                            Ed was saying he had five songs for Dave to choose from.

                            here are the titles of the leftovers dave refused to do:

                            it's about time
                            up for breakfast
                            learning to see
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                            • DavidLeeNatra
                              TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 10704

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Carmine Raguzza
                              You know what gets lost in all of eddies "anti-dave" stuff, when Eddie was diagnosed with cancer, it was David Lee Roth who got involved and lended his friendship to Ed by referring him to his Dr. realtive who was a cancer specialist. I forget what the relation to dave was. To me, that shows yet another true level of class on Daves part.
                              and don't forget the note dave put in the newspapers immediately after hearing that ed suffered from cancer...

                              "my conndolences...you can whip this, champ...see ya down the road. D."

                              just imagine for a second what would have been if it was dave who became ill...no way the sisters would have had enough style to put out a quote like that...
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