More Van Hagar trouble reported on WDVE PITTSBURGH Tuesday morning.

[SRK]

I was driving to work Tuesday morning listening to DVE and Val Porter the news girl comes on tells about how theres trouble in Van hagar... saying Edward fired Sams road crew and Sam and Ed HATE one another again and Sam has threatened to walk out on the tour several times already... She went on to tell how Sam has already planned a solo winter tour opening for Nugent . Porter then went on to say she seen them in Vegas and it was very obvious that the band was split into two different parts Sam and Anthony and Ed and his sister ALEX, then the djs Randy and Jim joined in and said you know ....somethings wrong when Van Halen can`t sell out in Pittsburgh and went on to say of course Pittsburgh has and always was a DAVE TOWN...And Van halen as it is now ....is irrelevant.


THERE IS NO VAN HALEN WITHOUT DAVID LEE ROTH.

[sambo]

"It's About Time" they saw the writing on the wall. You either do it for the music and the fans or you do it for money. If you do it for money then this is the half-assed result - serves them right. I bet they sit back, blame eachother and wonder how they ever could have fucked this whole thing up..

[Starwood]

Starwood loves a good old-fashioned train wreck.

[guwapo_rocker]

Originally posted by sambo
"It's About Time" they saw the writing on the wall. You either do it for the music and the fans or you do it for money. If you do it for money then this is the half-assed result - serves them right. I bet they sit back, blame eachother and wonder how they ever could have fucked this whole thing up..

They will blame David Lee Roth.

[Nitro Express]

I was at the San Jose Van Hagar show and Eddie was just standing there looking down and playing. Or may I say trying to play. Ed was clearly in his own world that night and when Sammy would come over to him trying to get Ed into the show more, Eddie would just glare at Sammy.

Notice when Gary Cherone was the lead singer, Eddie was doing interviews like crazy. He was out there. On this new Van Hagar tour Eddie isn't doing interviews and is walking right off the stage into his limo and getting the hell out of Dodge.

This whole tour strikes me as a quick money grab.

[byte]

It's inevitable that this lineup of the band will come an end on bad terms. Personally, when it happens, I can't wait to see all the suckups at the links go absolutely nuts over the news. "Where did this come from?" "But Sammy said they were getting along!" Yeah, Sammy says a lot of things. Like about how Van Hagar sold more albums than Van Roth, which anyone with more than two brain cells knows isn't true. And, if the band decides to get back in form and get Dave back, then watching the people over at the links would be even MORE hilarious, seeing all the sheep whine about how the Ched Rocker isn't on the tour and they're not going. Great, maybe someone with real taste in music and a real set of balls will buy their tickets, which shouldn't be a problem since a Dave-fronted VH would sell out arenas within hours.

[sambo]

If VH do a Dave tour, there should be a sheep screening policy at all venues for all the disbelieving Spam fans who suddenly embrace Roth.

[Big Train]

Call me optimistic, but do you think this discourse could be because ED was on stage one night and said "man this guy is a wanker". People do see the light. AA is founded on that (something Ed ought to check out again). Perhaps fences can be mended. Everyone needs to be the 50 year old they are and realize this is it, end of the line. This is the last lap of the race.

Let's hope they do and go out in style.

[sambo]

Well put.. it is indeed "the last lap of the race". Like anything I guess, you are only as good as your last game. Is this the way they want to be remembered?

[Halen High]

We can only hope this is true.

There was a Van Hagar review a few weeks ago, can't remember which one, in which the writer said Sammy tried to give Eddie a hug and Eddie just glared at him before pushing him away!

I'm convinced Eddie was pushed into doing this reunion by Alex, who has demonstrated many times over the last few years that he has no business running this band.

Looking out from the stage at the thousands of empty seats must be a very sobering experience for the brothers.

[bueno bob]

Yeah, this is over. It's over already...shit, they can't even keep the bad press and bad feelings out of the media. It's THAT obvious.

Even when it was going bad with Roth in '85, nobody really knew about it until the very last moment...the last concert in September, well, shit, everybody looked like they were having a great time by all indications (I wouldn't know, I was all of about 11 years old, heh).

They may as well do themselves the favor and end it now. Alex has ran this fucking band into the ground...maybe the above mentioned idea was right and Ed was coerced into doing this by Alex. Ed fired Hagar due to his shit-ass lyrics and the fact that Hagar's a solo artist singing for Van Halen and a Van Halen vocalist who's more worried about his own solo career, right?

Well, shit, man, I could have told Ed nothing would have changed over eight years! Sam's still a solo artist who won't do any Roth material that he doesn't have to and this whole fucking game is crumbling like the house of cards it is.

Last lap, indeed. They better pump on the speed one way or another for the home stretch, because this is just about it.

[Halen High]

Originally posted by sambo
If VH do a Dave tour, there should be a sheep screening policy at all venues for all the disbelieving Spam fans who suddenly embrace Roth.

Lol!

The sheep will turn up in their thousands. They don't like to admit it, but most of them know what the real deal is, and they can't wait to see it like the rest of us.

[Nitro Express]

Alex is a lying sack of shit. The real reason he used to wear a neckbrace is the fucker rolled his car and injured his spine. While on the VH3 tour Alex would say he injured his neck water skiing.

I cannot picture Shemp on water skis.

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by Halen High
The sheep will turn up in their thousands. They don't like to admit it, but most of them know what the real deal is, and they can't wait to see it like the rest of us.

I told Brett "The Shepherd" Norton the same thing over at the links, LONG before I came over here and that pussy was spouting off about how he was going to be "Done with Van Halen because, even if they brought Roth back, it'd just be too much screwing around with the fans and I won't put up with it!" yadda yadda yadda...insert some more self-righteous bullshit and you'll get the sum of it.

He said I was full of shit. I said he was full of shit, and that if he was a, oh, how does he put it?...oh yes, a "REAL VAN HALEN FAN", he'd "SUPPORT THE BAND NO MATTER WHO WAS SINGING"(c)(Brett "The Shepherd" Norton Trademarks, Ltd.)

I was promptly banned, LMAO!

But you know FUCKIN' A WELL that he'll be right out there with the rest of us buying his ticket and putting it in his greasy little hand, lol :D

Deep down, the Sheep know whats up.

[sambo]

and I bet the sheep don't have the balls to design / wear a t-shirt saying "Hagar is Van Halen" cos they know the truth.... (and the consequences). They can't really believe that for a second - seriously.

[bueno bob]

I don't know...there's some dumb fuck over there that has something like : "Hagar made Van Halen better - deal with it!" or something equally fucking stupid as his signature. What a fuckin' dipshit. I mean, really!

Not EVERY human needs a brain to function, apparently.

[Matt White]

"It's 5,150 Time!!!"
"Look at all the EMPTY SEATS here tonight!!!"
" Wham!!! Bam!!! Van Hagar is in a JAM!!!"


FUCK YOU Van Hagar!!!!!!

[sambo]

It's 5150 time alright.. that was prolly the number of PAYING attendees (not total attendance) at their gigs...if you take away the free tickets...

[Matt White]

That's the joke Sambo. "5,150 is tonights attendance."

DAVE OR THE GRAVE BABY!!!!

[POJO_Risin]

Van Halen has been over for a long time now...

this news is irrelevent...

[TOM_5150]

Van Halen is Eddie, Dave, Mike, and Alex. Period. Back in the past it didn't bother me so much with Sammy in the band. But by the time Balance hit, I got tired of Sam's shit of saying how Van Hagar outsold Van Halen. Bullshit!! VH and 1984 both went Diamond. Believe me, Roth is my first choice, and I'll take Gary over Sammy any day.

[Bill Lumbergh]

Originally posted by Nitro Express
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Or may I say trying to play.


:D

[Rikk]

Originally posted by SRK
I was driving to work Tuesday morning listening to DVE and Val Porter the news girl comes on tells about how theres trouble in Van hagar... saying Edward fired Sams road crew and Sam and Ed HATE one another again and Sam has threatened to walk out on the tour several times already... She went on to tell how Sam has already planned a solo winter tour opening for Nugent . Porter then went on to say she seen them in Vegas and it was very obvious that the band was split into two different parts Sam and Anthony and Ed and his sister ALEX, then the djs Randy and Jim joined in and said you know ....somethings wrong when Van Halen can`t sell out in Pittsburgh and went on to say of course Pittsburgh has and always was a DAVE TOWN...And Van halen as it is now ....is irrelevant.


THERE IS NO VAN HALEN WITHOUT DAVID LEE ROTH.

Thanks for the report! Awesome stuff!:)

[tydhurst]

I don't want David Lee Roth back in Van Halen while Eddie sucks and Alex looks like Agent Smith from the Matrix. Michael Anthony's the only one who hasn't changed.
HE'S STILL SHIT!

But it'd be a dissapointment to hear Dave backed by a bad guitarist who's had his day.

[DaveTheSoulOfVH]

"Michael Anthony's the only one who hasn't changed.
HE'S STILL SHIT!"

bwaaahahahhahahahahahahaha !!!

DAVE OR THE GRAVE BABY!!!

[bueno bob]

The only changing Mike's done is in the weight department :)

[Hecubus]

Originally posted by Matt White
"It's 5,150 Time!!!"


AAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!

I'd vote for you twice if I could, bro!!!

[Matt White]

Originally posted by Hecubus
AAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!

I'd vote for you twice if I could, bro!!!

Same here bro!!!


"Look at all the empty seats at the Van Hagar show tonight!!!!"

DAVE OR THE GRAVE MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by Matt White
Same here bro!!!


"Look at all the empty seats at the Van Hagar show tonight!!!!"

DAVE OR THE GRAVE MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!

That's alright...when we finally get our Dave reunion and get the REAL show on the road...all this will fade like a bad dream...sellouts across the board...

There will, though, actually be PLENTY of empty seats because all of the crazy ass DLR VH fans are going to be going BAT SHIT all night long! Mother fuckers DONT SIT DOWN when Roth is doing the biz...cuz that biz, man, takes good care of me!

As far as the Hagar elitists?

To paraphrase my avatar:

"(They) will join us or DIE, master..."

:)

[Matt White]

They will die BOB. They'll turn their attention to Toby keith, Jimmy Buffett, and Tim McGraw. They never got into VAN HALEN. DAVID LEE ROTH made them uncomfortable & jealous. They weren't HIP enough to dig VAN HALEN. Or, they weren't BORN when VAN HALEN were at the height of their powers, so they only love the cheesy POWER BALLADS of Van Hagar. So, when Spam is gone, so are they. And I, for one, say GET THE FUCK OUT!!!!!!

FUCK YOU Van Hagar SHEEP!!!!!!

[bueno bob]

Make it two, my good man...make it two :)

[Tom Vu]

No way! Van Halens the number 1 heavy metal group RIGHT NOW. I went to the Staples show and there is a lots of people there. The place packed. Sammy sings good and Eddies playing good. You can see they having great time. Other city may not have that many people who know? But I study US economony and RIGHT NOW we in downturn because of Iraq war. We are on state recession. RIGHT NOW heavy metal is not to famous like in 1984 when i come to US. Britney Spears, Janet Jackson, they are more famous than Van Halen RIGHT NOW. David Lee Roth sings for Van Halen before over twenty years ago. RIGHT NOW sammy sings. I see no different if David sing. Bad economics RIGHT NOW and people dont pay money when time like this.

VHROCKS!!!

[4me2poopon]

Originally posted by Tom Vu
Me so Horny

Me love you long time!

Oh Hop Sing!!!!

Have you ever talked to a woman without having to give your credit card number?

Don't fuck with me!!!!!!

I don't fuck around!!!

Ask the sock-puppet man!!!

Ask the sock puppet!!!

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[Johnny Alucard]

Originally posted by Halen High
We can only hope this is true.

There was a Van Hagar review a few weeks ago, can't remember which one, in which the writer said Sammy tried to give Eddie a hug and Eddie just glared at him before pushing him away!

I'm convinced Eddie was pushed into doing this reunion by Alex, who has demonstrated many times over the last few years that he has no business running this band.

Looking out from the stage at the thousands of empty seats must be a very sobering experience for the brothers. I believe it. I was at the Albuquerque show, and those two guys looked like they hated each other. There was no "Eddie and Sam" love, just the Sammy Hagar hour, and the Eddie Van Halen, "look at me, I'm a rock star with abs!" show. Fu*king dull. Eddie sounded "ok" but I'll say this much. 2 years ago at the same venue for the Sammy vs. Dave tour, Sammy also sounded "ok"....But Diamond Dave STOLE the show. as usual. It would have SUCKED to watch Sammy sipping blue margarita's onstage while his old VH1 videos played in the backgrond, in his pajamas play the main event..... Dave had a guy, an Oriental guy who could easily teach Eddie a thing or two about his own licks. That guy sounded like Eddie wishes he still could. And Dave kicked major Glutes! He was ripped to the bone, six pack abs that Eddie dreams about while he's doing crunches, and sounded like he did off the digitally remastered albums, he even had the screams down, which Sammy WONT bother attempting. The crowd absolutley ERUPTED when he took the stage to "Hot for Teacher" and he played an incredible set from Van Halen-1984. ALL the hot classics inbetween.

Roth will reign again. I'd like to see him on tour with another big act, like Aerosmith and KISS did. This era of Van Hagar will last as long as the laughable Cherone Era. Because Roth is like a certain great white shark off the coast of Amity that got blown up....."Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water....."

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by Tom Vu
No way! Van Halens the number 1 heavy metal group RIGHT NOW. I went to the Staples show and there is a lots of people there. The place packed. Sammy sings good and Eddies playing good. You can see they having great time. Other city may not have that many people who know? But I study US economony and RIGHT NOW we in downturn because of Iraq war. We are on state recession. RIGHT NOW heavy metal is not to famous like in 1984 when i come to US. Britney Spears, Janet Jackson, they are more famous than Van Halen RIGHT NOW. David Lee Roth sings for Van Halen before over twenty years ago. RIGHT NOW sammy sings. I see no different if David sing. Bad economics RIGHT NOW and people dont pay money when time like this.

VHROCKS!!!

Dude, put down the fuckin' crack pipe for a minute, OK?

I see you are in need of further education.

First off, Van Halen is "rock and roll" or "hard rock", if you prefer. By all standards, they are NOT a "heavy metal" band. If you need a good reference point, look at the first three or four albums from Metallica, some Iron Maiden and/or Judas Priest, perhaps some Black Sabbath for the gloomier/bluesier side of metal. I can actually give you a list of several notable acts that never really made it big otherwise that could give you a good roundabout of what metal is all about if you're interested. And if I actually deign it worth my time to bother with you.

Before you go spouting off about who the number one "heavy metal" band is right now, I suggest you go look at sales of Best of Both Worlds. You might be in for a terrible shock, my friend. Van Halen is NOT on "top of the world" "RIGHT NOW" (by the way, quit capitalizing right now, it makes me sick).

Sammy sings like he always does - constipated and anal and over bearing. Sam's vocal range can hit several considerable highs, but that does not make him a "great singer" by any stretch of imagination, nor does it even mean that he's performing up to Sammy Hagar standards. His voice is weakening, and it's been readily apparent in the bootlegs from this tour I've heard (and before you ask, slapnuts, I haven't gone to any shows and I don't have any fuckin' plans to do so).

As far as other cities not having a lot of people in them, you should do some research on attendance figures. If you're not too damn lazy to do it yourself, there are several interesting links and messages with the numbers here on the board. In their own backyard, they barely got the doors open with the piss-poor turnout. That's CALIFORNIA, numbnuts. No people in California? Maybe not :rolleyes: And the economic downturn has NOTHING to do with it.

Giving people what they WANT TO SEE does!!!

Let me tell you something, SHEEP - If you were watching your American TV back in 1996, VAN HALEN (using that name by it's most strictest terms) made it's first public appearance since 1985 and it was the BIGGEST GOD DAMN THING going on in the music world RIGHT THEN. If you think for a SECOND that the American public isn't interested in a DLR reunion, FOR FULL AND FOR TRUE, you're outta your God damned mind. Just watching MTV when they stepped out on the stage was world changing for ALL 4 of them, I guarantee you.

Because, in case you missed it - THE WHOLE GOD DAMN PLANET forgot that Sammy Hagar had EVER happened. 10 years of history vanished in the blink of an eye.

And all because of Ed? No. Mike? Shit, do you need to ask? Alex? He'd probably tell you so, but the answer is still "NO".

All because the REAL Van Halen was back, and that VAN HALEN is one man, and ONE MAN ONLY - DAVID LEE ROTH!

You WILL learn to accept the truth and I will educate you EVERY SINGLE TIME you make idiotic statements like that!!!

SHEEP!

I nominate Tom Vu for this weeks honorary pen dweller. Rikk?

[sambo]

Tom Vu - seconded..

[Bill Lumbergh]

Tom Vu can't be for real.........ah what the fuck throw him in the pen Rikk! It's been slow lately anyway..........

[bueno bob]

Well, consider this - he says he's been in America for 20 years and yet he STILL hasn't got any grasp of proper english?

It's either a fake or a Fab :)

[DavidLeeNatra]

Originally posted by Johnny Alucard
I believe it. I was at the Albuquerque show, and those two guys looked like they hated each other. (...)Because Roth is like a certain great white shark off the coast of Amity that got blown up....."Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water....."

welcome to the army, mr alucard...enjoy and stay away from the cabo wabo...

[steviedelray]

I went to the September 16 show here in Jacksonville, and I cannot begin to expressed how much that show sucked! People were getting up and moving around throughout, but Sam's interlude was used as the main beer intake or beer outlet braek. It was HORRIBLE. I would not have thought Van Hagar could sound so bad, what with Sam's supposed 'musicianship'. They really have to stop this train wreck immediately. PEACE.

[DavidLeeNatra]

and welcome steviedelray...

[DLRDUDE]

Well I for one have been of the mix for a long time and never really understood the break up of VHin the 80's to begin with. I know there's he said/he said stories. Ed and Dave could no longer get along. BUT other than the name Van Halen, how the hell did that become Eddie and Alex's band. Dave was VH. Eddie was and still is a guitar God, Alex was an ok drummer and Michael(I know three chords) Anthony just flat out was horrific. People have been saying for years that Dave got kicked out of the band. How do you get kicked out of your band. So what, he wasn't the original singer in the Van Halen's garage. But weren't they first known a Mammoth. Van Halen was and still is an awesome name but Dave was the key to that band. I think Dave should have done a round house kick on them punks and straightened the shit out right then and there back in '85. The band is dead as far as getting back together. I may take some heat for this but I'm not really sure I would go to a reunion concert if ever there was one. I think it's cool to watch the VH1 documentaries on Dave. Just listening to him about the good ole days takes me back to an era I'll never forget

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by steviedelray
I went to the September 16 show here in Jacksonville, and I cannot begin to expressed how much that show sucked! People were getting up and moving around throughout, but Sam's interlude was used as the main beer intake or beer outlet braek. It was HORRIBLE. I would not have thought Van Hagar could sound so bad, what with Sam's supposed 'musicianship'. They really have to stop this train wreck immediately. PEACE.

So you see, we DO know what we're talking about :)

[DLR_EngineRoom]

Originally posted by SRK
I was driving to work Tuesday morning listening to DVE and Val Porter the news girl comes on tells about how theres trouble in Van hagar... saying Edward fired Sams road crew and Sam and Ed HATE one another again and Sam has threatened to walk out on the tour several times already... She went on to tell how Sam has already planned a solo winter tour opening for Nugent . Porter then went on to say she seen them in Vegas and it was very obvious that the band was split into two different parts Sam and Anthony and Ed and his sister ALEX, then the djs Randy and Jim joined in and said you know ....somethings wrong when Van Halen can`t sell out in Pittsburgh and went on to say of course Pittsburgh has and always was a DAVE TOWN...And Van halen as it is now ....is irrelevant.


THERE IS NO VAN HALEN WITHOUT DAVID LEE ROTH.

This is one of the most relieving, comforting, 'I told you so', 'suspicions confirmed', 'I knew it all along', 'Finally the truth comes out' posts that I've ever seen.

SRK...I'm proud of you, son. Take a bow, amd make sure that there ain't no Hagaritas behind you first.

[fe_lung]

Here's my thing:
I think Ed and Al looked at the ticket sales for people like Springsteen, Fleetwood Mac, The Rolling Stones, The Eagles, Sting, Elton John, etc. and figured "Why aren't we getting in on some of that nostalgia action?" They figured that they could re-form, charge the vh-1 crowd $50-$100 a head, and make a bank.

So, problem one: We need a singer..... Well, Daves out. We've burned him already so he's going to demand lawyers and contracts. Plus, he won't sing any of those "classic" Sam songs.

Sam, on the other hand, will sing Dave songs, is always willing to be duped, and isn't working anyway. Plus, he's still friends with Mikey..... Reel him in!!!

So, they get Sam, crank out a hits record (the second straight, if you really think about it. There's no VH3 songs on that thing) and roll with it.

Now they can't get along again..... big deal. They'll go away for another 4 years or so and then..... SAM'S BACK! It's a whole new thing this time.... Ed's gotten sober again, he and Al have gotten married a couple more times, Ed's had another cancer scare and he has a whole new perspective on life.... Good times for Van Hagar. For about six months and then it'll fall apart again and the cycle will repeat.

[DavidLeeNatra]

Originally posted by fe_lung
Here's my thing:
I think Ed and Al looked at the ticket sales for people like Springsteen, (....) Good times for Van Hagar. For about six months and then it'll fall apart again and the cycle will repeat.

sad but true...

[Terry]

Had always thought the whole Van Halen 3 debacle (which, start to finish, lasted from October of 1996 to November of 1999) was the band bottoming out. After Cherone left, seemed like there was nowhere to go but up.

What has happened to the band since then isn't even a lateral move. They're moving backwards into an era (1986-1995) that I didn't care about in the first place, and it isn't sounding any better the second time around.

Pitiful way for them to wind down their career. Started with a bang, took the world by storm for 6 years then a slow, downhill slide. Could never have envisioned this back in the day.

"I don't wanna remember what the team turned into after I left. Makes me question what it was when I was a member."

DLR 1997

[BITEYOASS]

Originally posted by sambo
If VH do a Dave tour, there should be a sheep screening policy at all venues for all the disbelieving Spam fans who suddenly embrace Roth.

Easy, put a bottle of Cabo Wabo and a bottle of JD in front of them. Only the Cabo Wabo will be filled with dish water. If they start to chug that JD then give em front row seats. :D

[BITEYOASS]

Wait correction on the front seats, must also be a tall athletic blonde with big tits and shaved pussy. :D

[kcmusician]

Who knows what's real and what's false with this band? Certianly not the dj's of the world, especially since the members of the band don't even know.

Shaun

[RogueHorseman]

Originally posted by kcmusician
Who knows what's real and what's false with this band? Certianly not the dj's of the world, especially since the members of the band don't even know.

Shaun

Damn, KC... you made a statement I can't really argue with! LOL...

[Halen High]

Originally posted by Johnny Alucard
I believe it. I was at the Albuquerque show, and those two guys looked like they hated each other. There was no "Eddie and Sam" love, just the Sammy Hagar hour, and the Eddie Van Halen, "look at me, I'm a rock star with abs!" show. Fu*king dull. Eddie sounded "ok" but I'll say this much. 2 years ago at the same venue for the Sammy vs. Dave tour, Sammy also sounded "ok"....But Diamond Dave STOLE the show. as usual. It would have SUCKED to watch Sammy sipping blue margarita's onstage while his old VH1 videos played in the backgrond, in his pajamas play the main event..... Dave had a guy, an Oriental guy who could easily teach Eddie a thing or two about his own licks. That guy sounded like Eddie wishes he still could. And Dave kicked major Glutes! He was ripped to the bone, six pack abs that Eddie dreams about while he's doing crunches, and sounded like he did off the digitally remastered albums, he even had the screams down, which Sammy WONT bother attempting. The crowd absolutley ERUPTED when he took the stage to "Hot for Teacher" and he played an incredible set from Van Halen-1984. ALL the hot classics inbetween.

Roth will reign again. I'd like to see him on tour with another big act, like Aerosmith and KISS did. This era of Van Hagar will last as long as the laughable Cherone Era. Because Roth is like a certain great white shark off the coast of Amity that got blown up....."Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water....."

Great post!

[tobinentinc]

I didn't hear that, but it's no suprise. DVE is a great station, and are always partial to the Dave-era. Pittsburgh is without a doubt a Dave town!!

[dave_is_vh]

Originally posted by Halen High
Looking out from the stage at the thousands of empty seats must be a very sobering experience for the brothers.

Nuff said. That is why Dave will be back soon.

[Bad Muthafucker]

i'm not sure if dave could fix things...unless he had TOTAL control. especially over alex van dick licker. it's like dave himself said during the 1999 tour in an interview. i'm not sure exactly word for word what he said, but it was something to the tune of "everybody on the team has to do their part to make things right. you can't just pop diamond dave into the mix and all of the sudden the sun comes up." i'm afraid i'm gonna have to agree with dave on that one. there's only so much one human being can do.

[Viking]

As much as I hate to personally capitalize on the grief of others, I......uh......um.......WHO THE FUCK AM I KIDDING?!?!? I LOVE THIS SHIT!!!!!!

:killer: :killer: :killer: :killer: