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  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10625

    Big media drops the mask

    Big media drops the mask
    Pat Buchanan


    November 1, 2004


    That 377 tons of high explosives went missing from an Iraqi munitions facility 30 miles south of Baghdad is a legitimate story.

    But did it deserve to be the front-page, two-column headline lead in The New York Times? Did it merit being featured on "60 Minutes," 30 hours before Election Day, as CBS News planned? Or were these twin media mastodons colluding as conscious agents of the Kerry campaign?

    These are not unfair questions -- for consider:

    We now know that the explosives have been missing from Al Qaqaa for 18 months and that this was known by the U.S. government. We now know that the 377 tons represents less than one-tenth of one percent of the munitions U.S. forces have captured or destroyed.

    We now know the explosives were probably moved before U.S. troops arrived. For it is hard to believe an organized theft of these explosives, involving hundreds of men and 40 trucks, each hauling 10 tons of high explosives, could have been carried out on Iraqi roads jammed with U.S. military vehicles after the fall of Baghdad.

    Yet, thanks to CBS and the Times, Kerry was able, for three days of the last week of the campaign, to make a charge of presidential dereliction of duty that threw Bush off message and on the defensive.

    According to Howard Kurtz of The Washington Post, CBS News' Jeff Fager pleaded with the Times' Bill Keller not to publish the story until 36 hours before voting began. Keller balked, saying this "wouldn't give the White House a fair opportunity to respond."

    Which seems to be what CBS had in mind.

    For the Los Angeles Times cites a CBS source as saying that Fager was "distraught" the story was not held until 30 hours before voting began. The CBS gang was out to finish off a president with an unanswerable charge on the eve of an election.

    This is the second time this fall that CBS News and "60 Minutes" have used hyped or bogus stories to sink President Bush.

    In September, Dan Rather and "60 Minutes" charged that Bush, while in the Texas Air National Guard, had been insubordinate, had refused orders to take a medical exam and had used influence to avoid being disciplined.

    Within hours, it was shown that the "60 Minutes" exclusive was based on criminally fabricated and forged memos. Yet CBS has never retracted its story nor apologized to President Bush.

    Nor has CBS explained why it did not tell the public that the memos had been questioned by the family of the officer who had supposedly written them; that CBS got them from a erratic, wacky, anti-Bush zealot, not an "unimpeachable" source as Rather had claimed; and that the ex-lieutenant governor who confessed to Rather he had gotten Bush into the Guard had previously said the opposite under oath.

    And why was CBS maniacally pursuing a National Guard story that had been knocking around for a decade, while ignoring the new dynamite charges of the Swift Boat Vets that Kerry had lied about his combat record in Vietnam and colluded with communists? In August, the whole country was talking about the Swift Boat ads.

    As Kurtz reports, the nonpartisan Project for Excellence in Journalism has now documented a media bias toward Kerry and an animus toward this president.

    During the two-week period around the presidential debates, 59 percent of the stories about Bush on CBS, ABC, NBC, PBS's "News Hour," CNN and Fox News, and in The Washington Post and The New York Times were negative, but only 25 percent of the stories about John Kerry. One in three stories about Kerry was positive, but only one in seven about Bush. In the print media, 68 percent of the stories were negative on Bush, but only 26 percent were negative on Kerry.

    Fox News was positive on Bush, but CNN's Aaron Brown's made Fox look like the profile of an ambivalent and undecided voter. According to Kurtz, citing the Project, "not a single CNN story was both dominated by and positive for President Bush." Not one.

    After Paul Bremer said we did not send enough troops to Iraq, John Roberts, possible successor to Rather, said: "The famously disciplined Bush campaign appeared to trip all over itself trying to clean up the mess. ... A day of contradictory messages is not the way the Bush campaign wanted to go into this important debate."

    With folks like Fager doing the choosing, Roberts should have the inside track to the anchor's chair.

    In a revealing story, Slate, the Internet magazine, had its writers publicly name the man for whom each intended to vote and tell why. Five Slate writers named Bush, 45 named Kerry, a nine-to-one ratio. A poll of the national press would likely reach the same result.

    This election has indeed revealed an "alternative media" of the right. But the national press remains what it has been since the 1960s: the most reliably left-wing voting block this side of Bedford Stuyvesant.
    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush
  • Seshmeister
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Oct 2003
    • 35192

    #2
    So what's the guy saying?

    You need more stupid people in the media?

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    • FORD
      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

      • Jan 2004
      • 58781

      #3
      When US troops are being killed by these explosives, the fact that the insurgents were able to acquire them as a direct result of BCE negligence is very much a valid news story, AND very much a valid example of why this Fraudministration will be voted out of existence tomorrow.
      Eat Us And Smile

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      Justice Democrats


      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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      • ELVIS
        Banned
        • Dec 2003
        • 44120

        #4
        Describe to us all, oh wise one, the BCE negligence particular to this case...

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        • FORD
          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

          • Jan 2004
          • 58781

          #5
          Originally posted by ELVIS
          Describe to us all, oh wise one, the BCE negligence particular to this case...
          DUH. They failed to secure the Al Qaaqa ammo dump or warehouse or whatever the fuck it was. Leaving it wide open for anybody to break in and take whatever they wanted.

          Abdul! You want a 55 gallon drum of C4?

          Sure Hassan! Load it on the back of my camel!

          * Not an offiical transcript
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          Justice Democrats


          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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          • BigBadBrian
            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
            • Jan 2004
            • 10625

            #6
            Originally posted by FORD
            DUH. They failed to secure the Al Qaaqa ammo dump or warehouse or whatever the fuck it was. Leaving it wide open for anybody to break in and take whatever they wanted.

            Abdul! You want a 55 gallon drum of C4?

            Sure Hassan! Load it on the back of my camel!

            * Not an offiical transcript

            Only a liberal would believe these people could make off with hundreds of TONS of high explosives but the possibility of these terrorists having chemical weapons simply couldn't exist. TONS of them are still unaccounted for...that's the UN's count, not ours.
            “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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            • ODShowtime
              ROCKSTAR

              • Jun 2004
              • 5812

              #7
              Re: Big media drops the mask

              Originally posted by BigBadBrian
              During the two-week period around the presidential debates, 59 percent of the stories about Bush on CBS, ABC, NBC, PBS's "News Hour," CNN and Fox News, and in The Washington Post and The New York Times were negative
              What the hell do you expect? :confused: When the fucker does something positive, they'll report on it. You can't polish a turd! 40% positive is pretty good if you ask me.
              gnaw on it

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              • Big Train
                Full Member Status

                • Apr 2004
                • 4013

                #8
                What I expect is no bias at all. It isn't the job of the media to have an opinion or add adjectives to what is going on. Just the facts, maam...still means something to me.

                The fact that CBS STILL hasn't apologized is a complete load of shit. I'll never take anything they say seriously again in this lifetime.

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                • Nickdfresh
                  SUPER MODERATOR

                  • Oct 2004
                  • 49203

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                  Only a liberal would believe these people could make off with hundreds of TONS of high explosives but the possibility of these terrorists having chemical weapons simply couldn't exist. TONS of them are still unaccounted for...that's the UN's count, not ours.
                  It's really funny how the Iraqi insurgents seem to have plenty explosives to make "Improvised Explosive Devices" (IED's). But I guess only a conservative would ignore the number of people that are dying in Iraq as a result.

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                  • FORD
                    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                    • Jan 2004
                    • 58781

                    #10
                    Another irony here is that Pat Buchanan who owns the American Conservative magazine, and has worked for both CNN and now MSRNC, (not to mention a weekly gig on the McLaughlin group) is a part of the very same "Big media" he claims to oppose
                    Last edited by FORD; 11-01-2004, 02:38 PM.
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                    Justice Democrats


                    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                    • Big Train
                      Full Member Status

                      • Apr 2004
                      • 4013

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                      It's really funny how the Iraqi insurgents seem to have plenty explosives to make "Improvised Explosive Devices" (IED's). But I guess only a conservative would ignore the number of people that are dying in Iraq as a result.
                      An only a liberal could assume they came from one source...

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                      • Big Train
                        Full Member Status

                        • Apr 2004
                        • 4013

                        #12
                        Hypocrites can't be correct Ford?

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                        • FORD
                          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                          • Jan 2004
                          • 58781

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Big Train
                          Hypocrites can't be correct Ford?
                          Pat Buchanan has actually been "correct" more often than any other conservative (except maybe those Sierra Times guys) over the last 4 years. He opposes PNAC, and he thought invading Iraq was bullshit. But in this case he's wrong. The corporate media remains in Junior's corner.
                          Eat Us And Smile

                          Cenk For America 2024!!

                          Justice Democrats


                          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                          • Big Train
                            Full Member Status

                            • Apr 2004
                            • 4013

                            #14
                            How you added it up to say they are in Jr.'s corner, I don't know. Must be some kind of new math...

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                            • McCarrens
                              Foot Soldier
                              • May 2004
                              • 705

                              #15
                              Originally posted by FORD
                              The corporate media remains in Junior's corner.
                              There goes Ford again, just like every other liberal, throwing out all direct evidence contrary to what he belives just so he can continue ranting about whatever pop-issue he thinks it is not fashionable to complain about.
                              "The security around the hotel was ridiculous. This chick was pounding and screaming at my door until four or five in the morning....finally I said fuck it, and let her out of the room"

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