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  • John Ashcroft
    Veteran
    • Jan 2004
    • 2127

    Should we push Ford into the Clock Tower? What the hell!

    COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) - An error with an electronic voting system gave President Bush 3,893 extra votes in suburban Columbus, elections officials said.

    Franklin County's unofficial results had Bush receiving 4,258 votes to Democrat John Kerry's 260 votes in a precinct in Gahanna. Records show only 638 voters cast ballots in that precinct.

    Bush actually received 365 votes in the precinct, Matthew Damschroder, director of the Franklin County Board of Elections, told The Columbus Dispatch.

    State and county election officials did not immediately respond to requests by The Associated Press for more details about the voting system and its vendor, and whether the error, if repeated elsewhere in Ohio, could have affected the outcome.

    Bush won the state by more than 136,000 votes, according to unofficial results, and Kerry conceded the election on Wednesday after acknowledging that 155,000 provisional ballots yet to be counted in Ohio would not change the result.

    The Secretary of State's Office said Friday it could not revise Bush's total until the county reported the error.

    The Ohio glitch is among a handful of computer troubles that have emerged since Tuesday's elections.

    In one North Carolina county, more than 4,500 votes were lost because officials mistakenly believed a computer that stored ballots electronically could hold more data than it did. And in San Francisco, a malfunction with custom voting software could delay efforts to declare the winners of four races for county supervisor.

    In the Ohio precinct in question, the votes are recorded onto a cartridge. On one of the three machines at that precinct, a malfunction occurred in the recording process, Damschroder said. He could not explain how the malfunction occurred.

    Damschroder said people who had seen poll results on the election board's Web site called to point out the discrepancy. The error would have been discovered when the official count for the election is performed later this month, he said.

    The reader also recorded zero votes in a county commissioner race on the machine.

    Workers checked the cartridge against memory banks in the voting machine and each showed that 115 people voted for Bush on that machine. With the other machines, the total for Bush in the precinct added up to 365 votes.

    Meanwhile, in San Francisco, a glitch occurred with software designed for the city's new "ranked-choice voting," in which voters list their top three choices for municipal offices. If no candidate gets a majority of first-place votes outright, voters' second and third-place preferences are then distributed among candidates who weren't eliminated in the first round.

    When the San Francisco Department of Elections tried a test run on Wednesday of the program that does the redistribution, some of the votes didn't get counted and skewed the results, director John Arntz said.

    "All the information is there," Arntz said. "It's just not arriving the way it was supposed to."

    A technician from the Omaha, Neb. company that designed the software, Election Systems & Software Inc., was working to diagnose and fix the problem.

    Link: here
  • Switch84
    Veteran
    • Feb 2004
    • 2316

    #2
    :eek: :p Uh oh, HIDE YER CHILDREN! HIDE YER WIVES! LOAD YER GUNS!


    FORD'S GONNA CUT LOOSE!




    lmmfaobt
    "He doesn't need to sell millions of records, he doesn't need to fill arenas, he doesn't need to be popular, he doesn't need your money, AND HE DOESN'T NEED YOU!"
    Blackflag on DLR

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    • FORD
      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

      • Jan 2004
      • 58785

      #3
      Here's a hypothetical for you Busheep....

      I know the reich wing media has tried to scapegoat George Soros, so we'll use him in this example.....

      Let's say George Soros owned a company that made electronic voting machines that were based on Microsoft Access, and contained no capaibilities of producing a physical record of the actual votes cast on the machine.

      Now let's say that Soros personally guaranteed that he would "deliver the electoral votes" of his home state, which uses these machines, to John Kerry.

      Soros' home state was the last one to report in, and despite exit polls which read to the contrary, Kerry emerges the winner. Without a shred of physical evidence to prove it.

      What is your reaction, right wingers??
      Eat Us And Smile

      Cenk For America 2024!!

      Justice Democrats


      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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      • Catfish

        #4
        MY reaction?

        Eat a bag of shit, bitch!

        FOUR MORE YEARS!!!! FOUR MORE YEARS!!!!

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        • John Ashcroft
          Veteran
          • Jan 2004
          • 2127

          #5
          Here's a hypothetical for you...


          Let's say the NAALCP pays street people with crack to register Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck, etc. etc... And another liberal organization takes mentally incompetent people to get absentee ballots to vote for Kerry. And even more liberals register more voters than a particular county has citizens, all provisional and absentee. Yeah, a few of them get caught, but a whole bunch succeed in voting illegally, giving the "New JFK" undeserved votes.

          Oh wait a minute... This isn't a hypothetical, it actually happened all over the place in this election. Never mind.

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          • ODShowtime
            ROCKSTAR

            • Jun 2004
            • 5812

            #6
            Originally posted by Catfish
            Eat a bag of shit, bitch!
            I'll be taking that one thank you
            gnaw on it

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            • Warham
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Mar 2004
              • 14589

              #7
              Originally posted by John Ashcroft
              Here's a hypothetical for you...


              Let's say the NAALCP pays street people with crack to register Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck, etc. etc... And another liberal organization takes mentally incompetent people to get absentee ballots to vote for Kerry. And even more liberals register more voters than a particular county has citizens, all provisional and absentee. Yeah, a few of them get caught, but a whole bunch succeed in voting illegally, giving the "New JFK" undeserved votes.

              Oh wait a minute... This isn't a hypothetical, it actually happened all over the place in this election. Never mind.
              I think FORD can close this thread now.

              Thank you Ashcroft!

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              • FORD
                ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                • Jan 2004
                • 58785

                #8
                I'd really like one of you hypocrites to answer the question.
                Eat Us And Smile

                Cenk For America 2024!!

                Justice Democrats


                "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                • BrownSound1
                  ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 3025

                  #9
                  Ah, but the thing is....they found the error with the electronic device, and know what the correct total is.

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                  • Switch84
                    Veteran
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 2316

                    #10
                    One more for the road

                    Originally posted by John Ashcroft
                    Here's a hypothetical for you...


                    Let's say the NAACP pays street people with crack to register Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck, etc. etc... And another liberal organization takes mentally incompetent people to get absentee ballots to vote for Kerry. And even more liberals register more voters than a particular county has citizens, all provisional and absentee. Yeah, a few of them get caught, but a whole bunch succeed in voting illegally, giving the "New JFK" undeserved votes.

                    Oh wait a minute... This isn't a hypothetical, it actually happened all over the place in this election. Never mind.

                    Let's not forget another Liberal brouhaha that blew up in their faces here in Georgia, Ashcroft! ILLEGAL ALIENS being 'registered' to vote via absentee ballot. That scam was exposed and challenged.

                    Ain't THAT a bitch?
                    "He doesn't need to sell millions of records, he doesn't need to fill arenas, he doesn't need to be popular, he doesn't need your money, AND HE DOESN'T NEED YOU!"
                    Blackflag on DLR

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                    • BigBadBrian
                      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 10625

                      #11
                      Originally posted by FORD
                      Here's a hypothetical for you Busheep....

                      I know the reich wing media has tried to scapegoat George Soros, so we'll use him in this example.....

                      Let's say George Soros owned a company that made electronic voting machines that were based on Microsoft Access, and contained no capaibilities of producing a physical record of the actual votes cast on the machine.

                      Now let's say that Soros personally guaranteed that he would "deliver the electoral votes" of his home state, which uses these machines, to John Kerry.

                      Soros' home state was the last one to report in, and despite exit polls which read to the contrary, Kerry emerges the winner. Without a shred of physical evidence to prove it.

                      What is your reaction, right wingers??
                      My reaction is MS Access doesn't have the DB capabilites you just described. Better go get Larry Ellison at Oracle. It's much more suited.
                      “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                      • FORD
                        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                        • Jan 2004
                        • 58785

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Brownsound1
                        Ah, but the thing is....they found the error with the electronic device, and know what the correct total is.
                        And how do you know that's true? Where is the evidence of this?

                        The fact is that without a tangible record of each vote recorded on the machine, it is impossible to ensure the integrity of elections.

                        And in a Presidential election,that is especially unacceptable.
                        Eat Us And Smile

                        Cenk For America 2024!!

                        Justice Democrats


                        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                        • FORD
                          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                          • Jan 2004
                          • 58785

                          #13
                          Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                          My reaction is MS Access doesn't have the DB capabilites you just described. Better go get Larry Ellison at Oracle. It's much more suited.
                          The Diebold machines use a system called GEMS which is based on MS Access.

                          Not that I'd trust Larry Ellison either, as he was trying to sell the Mark of the Beast microchip ID system to the BCE immediately after 9-11-01.
                          Eat Us And Smile

                          Cenk For America 2024!!

                          Justice Democrats


                          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                          • Nickdfresh
                            SUPER MODERATOR

                            • Oct 2004
                            • 49205

                            #14
                            Originally posted by FORD
                            Here's a hypothetical for you Busheep....

                            I know the reich wing media has tried to scapegoat George Soros, so we'll use him in this example.....

                            Let's say George Soros owned a company that made electronic voting machines that were based on Microsoft Access, and contained no capaibilities of producing a physical record of the actual votes cast on the machine.

                            Now let's say that Soros personally guaranteed that he would "deliver the electoral votes" of his home state, which uses these machines, to John Kerry.

                            Soros' home state was the last one to report in, and despite exit polls which read to the contrary, Kerry emerges the winner. Without a shred of physical evidence to prove it.

                            What is your reaction, right wingers??
                            It is interesting how the tighty righties can never seem to balance their partisanship by placing themselves in the reverse perspective and imagining how they would react if the tables were turned. Good post Ford. I wonder how they would react to the Democratic equivalent of the Ken Starr investigating Pres. Bush's nefarious connections to the Bin Ladens?:confused:

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                            • ODShowtime
                              ROCKSTAR

                              • Jun 2004
                              • 5812

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                              I wonder how they would react to the Democratic equivalent of the Ken Starr investigating Pres. Bush's nefarious connections to the Bin Ladens?:confused:
                              Simple, he'd wind up in a river somewhere.
                              gnaw on it

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