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  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49136

    Ashcroft "retires"

    Ashcroft retires and is replaced by this guy. I hoped he designs better security legislation than the euphemistic piece of anti-American shit "The Patriot Act." But with his track record of bad "legal advice," I won't get my hopes up. We'll watch him closely--before he watches us closely.

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    Bush attorney general pick is Alberto Gonzales
    Will replace Ashcroft if confirmed by Senate
    Wednesday, November 10, 2004 Posted: 6:45 PM EST (2345 GMT)



    President Bush and Alberto Gonzales



    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush on Wednesday nominated his White House legal counsel, Alberto Gonzales, to be the next U.S. attorney general, replacing John Ashcroft.

    "His sharp intellect and sound judgment have helped shape our policies in the war on terror," Bush said at the White House on Wednesday afternoon.

    "He always gives me his frank opinion; he is a calm and steady voice in times of crisis. He has an unwavering principle of respect for the law."

    Gonzales said the day was one of "conflicting emotions." He said if confirmed he would miss interacting with the members of the White House staff on a daily basis.

    "I will work hard to build upon [Ashcroft's] record," he said.

    In a news release, Sen. Charles Schumer, D-New York, said, "It's encouraging that the president has chosen someone less polarizing. We will have to review his record very carefully, but I can tell you already he's a better candidate than John Ashcroft."

    Gonzales, a former Texas Supreme Court justice appointed by then-Gov. Bush, was named White House counsel in January 2001. He had also served as Texas' secretary of state.

    More conservative Republicans, however, have found some of Gonzales' relatively moderate votes on the Texas Supreme court troubling, including a majority vote not requiring some teenage girls to get parental permission for an abortion.

    In his opinion on the ruling, Gonzales wrote, "While the ramifications of such a law may be personally troubling to me as a parent, it is my obligation as a judge to impartially apply the laws of this state without imposing my moral view on the decisions of the legislature."

    Gonzales told associates at the time he felt the complaints about the memo -- written in January 2002 -- were taken out of context.

    The memo warned Bush administration officials that they could be held accountable for "war crimes" if they did not agree with the conclusion of Justice Department attorneys that the Geneva Conventions do not apply to al Qaeda and Taliban detainees held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

    Gonzales' memo was a result of the State Department's request that Bush reconsider his decision to follow the Justice Department conclusion.

    If confirmed as attorney general, Gonzales will be the first Hispanic American to hold the Cabinet position.

    Bush received Ashcroft's handwritten resignation letter a week ago, but did not formally accept the attorney general's resignation until this week.

    The president praised the outgoing attorney general as "another superb public servant."

    During his nearly four-year tenure as the nation's chief law enforcement officer, Ashcroft "reorganized the Department of Justice to meet the new threat of terrorism," Bush said. "He fairly and forcefully applied the Patriot Act and helped to dismantle terror cells inside the United States."

    Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vermont, the judiciary committee's ranking Democrat, wrote in a news release, "I like and respect Judge Gonzales and look forward to our committee's consideration of his nomination.

    "The Justice Department in the first Bush term was the least accountable Justice Department in my lifetime. Meaningful oversight and accountability were thwarted for years. We will be looking to see if Judge Gonzales intends to change that."

    Ashcroft's resignation will become effective upon confirmation of Gonzales, Justice Department officials said.

    Ashcroft, a former senator and two-term governor of Missouri, garnered criticism as attorney general on issues like the Patriot Act, which backers say helps the government in its fight against terrorism and critics say infringes on civil liberties.

    Ashcroft was treated for gallstone pancreatitis in March, and his recovery kept him out of the office for nearly a month. In his handwritten resignation letter, dated November 2, he told Bush the job has been "both rewarding and depleting." (Text of resignation letter)

    "I believe that the Department of Justice would be well served by new leadership and fresh inspiration," he said.

    CNN's Tom Watkins contributed to this report
  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10620

    #2
    Re: Ashcroft "retires"

    Originally posted by Nickdfresh
    Ashcroft retires and is replaced by this guy. I hoped he designs better security legislation than the euphemistic piece of anti-American shit "The Patriot Act."
    Gee, that's funny. The vast majority of the Patriot Act was fashioned during the Clinton Administration. It was simply put to a vote and into legislative action after 9/11.

    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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    • Nickdfresh
      SUPER MODERATOR

      • Oct 2004
      • 49136

      #3
      Actually, Ashcroft has exceeded the mandate and wording of it. Plus the whole thing is a clusterfuck administratively. I.E.-if you are wrongly put a terrorist watch list, it is almost impossble to get off and there is no explanation as to why or how you got on there.

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      • Denny
        Banned
        • Oct 2004
        • 400

        #4
        Originally posted by Nickdfresh
        Actually, Ashcroft has exceeded the mandate and wording of it. Plus the whole thing is a clusterfuck administratively. I.E.-if you are wrongly put a terrorist watch list, it is almost impossble to get off and there is no explanation as to why or how you got on there.
        FORD should be on that fucking list.

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        • FORD
          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

          • Jan 2004
          • 58759

          #5
          The fact that this guy apparently endorsed the torture at Abu Ghraib and Gitmo is very troubling, but not surprising from the BCE.
          Eat Us And Smile

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          • Denny
            Banned
            • Oct 2004
            • 400

            #6
            Originally posted by FORD
            The fact that this guy apparently endorsed the torture at Abu Ghraib and Gitmo is very troubling, but not surprising from the BCE.
            At least they are doing something about the Terrorists.

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            • aesop
              Commando
              • Oct 2004
              • 1400

              #7
              Much of this election was about whether people thought there wouldn't have been another post-9/11 attack if the Libs were running the show. No doubt about it.

              Personally I believe that if, for example, hate monger Nancy Pelosi or Hillary Rodham would've been president we'd have seen many more Americans dead.

              As soon as most rationale Americans heard Kerry talk about 'reaching out to the world community', the election was over.
              Yo Yo Yo

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              • FORD
                ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                • Jan 2004
                • 58759

                #8
                Yeah, let's continue to live in fear of imaginary terrorists. That will solve everything
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                Justice Democrats


                "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                • aesop
                  Commando
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 1400

                  #9
                  It's only imaginary, because there hasn't been another terrorist attack since 9/11. Beleive me, it hasn't been for a lack of intent.

                  WTF, you can't win with you people. You'd be saying he was incompetent and unfit for office if another attack had taken place. There wasn't, but in that case, you say threat was 'immaginary'!!!. Then, when you lose those 2 arguements, you come back and say the threat was real, and the Bush government was incompetent for not stopping the WTC attack, even though the Slickster did nothing about it (who had 8 F'ING years and numerous attacks aginst America and her allies under his watch), and it was W's first 6 months in office!

                  It just shows that you people are driven by hate and dissillusionment and are actually quite unstable.
                  Yo Yo Yo

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                  • FORD
                    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                    • Jan 2004
                    • 58759

                    #10
                    Al Qaeda began as a CIA operation under the supervision of George Bush Sr. Bin Laden has been associated with the BCE for over 30 years. I would say the odds of them still working for the BCE are at least 50/50.

                    Probably about the only thing that might have damaged the Bush/Bin Laden family relationship would be if the Bin Ladens suspected BCE involvement in the plane crash death of older brother Salem Bin Laden. And if that were the case, then surely Osama would have mentioned it in one of his alleged videos detailing his litany of complaints against "Great Satan".
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                    Justice Democrats


                    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                    • aesop
                      Commando
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 1400

                      #11
                      Yep... driven by hate and dissillusionment and are actually quite unstable.
                      Yo Yo Yo

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                      • LoungeMachine
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 32555

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Denny
                        At least they are doing something about the Terrorists.
                        Congratulations.

                        You have just become a bigger moronic dolt than katydid, and every other mouth breather to ever darken this place.

                        Thanks for the post. The mens room needs more paper towels, get on it, will ya?


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                        Originally posted by Kristy
                        Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                        Originally posted by cadaverdog
                        I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                        • Nickdfresh
                          SUPER MODERATOR

                          • Oct 2004
                          • 49136

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Denny
                          At least they are doing something about the Terrorists.
                          By adopting British style "H-Block" techniques that alienated the Iraqi people and made us look like complete fucking scumbags to the rest of the world?!? I am not against the very selective use of hard-cell interrogation techniques against terrorists, but what they did at Abu Ghraib prison was just disgusting.

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                          • Nickdfresh
                            SUPER MODERATOR

                            • Oct 2004
                            • 49136

                            #14
                            Leiutenent General Michael Collins, Ireland's Greatest potential leader murdered by moronic IRA traitors!

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                            • Big Train
                              Full Member Status

                              • Apr 2004
                              • 4011

                              #15
                              I just find it interesting that he picks a Latino (or more or less had no choice politically) to do the dirty work of attempting to shore up the southern border. In this way, libs CAN"t call the guy a racist, closing down the borders to his own people.

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