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  • Eyes of the Night
    Veteran
    • Jan 2004
    • 1993

    Floating Bridges on Wolfies

    I can't naturally float the bridge that's on the wolfie because Ed put a chunk of wood there added for "tonality" ...

    I've raised the bridge lessening the springs in the back evening the bridge in the tuning that I'm in ... dropped D ...

    Took out the Dtuna ...


    Is that a good start? ... or am I haywire here? ...


    Added the 3rd spring even ... directions of those 2 springs matter?



    Innotation a big key?

    How do I get all my string heights the same? ...












    I'm a total rook on trems ... my first!
    Last edited by Eyes of the Night; 11-21-2004, 07:51 AM.
    Broken down n' dirty dressed in rags ...
  • Panamark
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Jan 2004
    • 17113

    #2
    G'day Eyes,

    My Kahler trem is not something I fuck with personally,
    I always get a luthier to set it up.. But maybe Unca Elvis
    or some of the other gear freaks could help out ???
    BABY PANA 2 IS Coming !! All across the land, let the love and beer flow !
    Love ya Mary Frances!

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    • Eyes of the Night
      Veteran
      • Jan 2004
      • 1993

      #3
      True ... I'm too stubborn I guess cause how hard can it actually be? ...

      cause each time I change string gauges or set new tunnings I'll have to reset the bridge ...
      Broken down n' dirty dressed in rags ...

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      • twonabomber
        formerly F A T
        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

        • Jan 2004
        • 11201

        #4
        aren't the Floyds on Wolfgangs recessed? i think you're stuck.
        Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.

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        • Eyes of the Night
          Veteran
          • Jan 2004
          • 1993

          #5
          In the Wolfgang manual it said to "float it" I would have to raise the 2 bridge screws on the body and lessen the springs ...

          With the help of this link http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/lesso...oyd_rose_.html which has awesome tabs, eyes of the night even, I managed to set my shit kinda straight tonight! ...

          Self high five ...

          Now onto innotation!!! lmao
          Broken down n' dirty dressed in rags ...

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          • ThrillsNSpills
            ROTH ARMY ELITE
            • Jan 2004
            • 6626

            #6
            Good luck Eyes.

            Hope the Wolfgang treats you well.

            Try a Steinberger if you get disgusted with floating bridges.

            Five minute string change and right back to playin.

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            • rustoffa
              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
              • Jan 2004
              • 8943

              #7
              I got a Danelectro and a silvertone amp.

              I just wanted to say the thread title made me LOL.

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              • Eyes of the Night
                Veteran
                • Jan 2004
                • 1993

                #8
                Broken down n' dirty dressed in rags ...

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                • Eyes of the Night
                  Veteran
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 1993

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ThrillsNSpills
                  Try a Steinberger

                  Riiight! ...

                  I'm so rookie at 29 ... lmfao
                  Broken down n' dirty dressed in rags ...

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                  • Nitro Express
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 32798

                    #10
                    Dude, EVH likes his Floyds set right down on the wood and the guitar isn't routed for a floating trem. There are plenty of good guitars out there set up with floating trems (Jackson and Ibanez come to mind). Raising the trem might require shiming the neck.

                    I personally think Wolfgangs are ugly guitars but I like the neck and it's the only off the rack guitar that has the Floyd set the way I like. Harddown on the wood.

                    I think you are looking at having to have some wood removed with a router to make the guitar do what you want it to do. I personally wouldn't fuck with it. Get an Ibanez instead. Their trems are awsome.
                    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                    • Eyes of the Night
                      Veteran
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 1993

                      #11
                      Cool info Nitro ... by taking out that chunk of wood would it jeopardize the tone like how Ed fucked up his destroyer? ...
                      Broken down n' dirty dressed in rags ...

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                      • Panamark
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 17113

                        #12
                        Fucking a Destroyer !!!

                        How could he ????

                        That should be punishable by death !
                        BABY PANA 2 IS Coming !! All across the land, let the love and beer flow !
                        Love ya Mary Frances!

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                        • Eyes of the Night
                          Veteran
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 1993

                          #13
                          Yeah dogg ... can you say WACF? ...
                          Broken down n' dirty dressed in rags ...

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                          • ELVIS
                            Banned
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 44120

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Eyes
                            Cool info Nitro ... by taking out that chunk of wood would it jeopardize the tone like how Ed fucked up his destroyer? ...
                            A good luthier can do exactly what you want...

                            Maybe that's the way to go...

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                            • GAR
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 10849

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Eyes
                              True ... I'm too stubborn I guess cause how hard can it actually be? ...

                              cause each time I change string gauges or set new tunnings I'll have to reset the bridge ...
                              Changing from .008 gauge to a .009 or .010 even can significantly change the pull tension between nut and bridge so there is definately NOT a "set" way to have your bridge float if you're gonna bounce back n forth between string sets.

                              But if you do this alot (once or 2x a mo.) I would suggest you get a very good quality #2 ten inch HARDENED TIP phillips screwdriver for adjusting the spring pull in back, and buy some extra screws as replacements when the heads strip.

                              Because your fingerboard is radiused, the bridgepieces are set at a radius also and therefore not adjustable unless you wanna fuck it up on a bench grinder: but you better be really really good eyeballing a 90* "facing operation" removing material from the underside of the bridge, using micrometers to measure progress and TO KNOW how much removal you desire beforehand!

                              In otherwords, take it to a luthier who does Floyd mods. If I do them, then there must be somebody else out there also - but if it takes me 16 hours to do it right you wouldn't wanna know what I charge

                              As a luthier I would suggest the following also:

                              If you don't know what screws to replace the Spring Claw with, just remember they are the same as common Fender style bolt-on neck screws I think 1-1/2" #10 screws.. something like that. You should rub just the ends (like, 4 threads full) with soap - just use a bar of any soap like Ivory to lube the threads before running new screws in there and it'll go like a breeze.

                              I would also say you should try adjusting the claw out as far as possible, and use 5 springs at first so as to acquaint yourself with the whole thing on how tension VS string gauge works like a teeter-totter in balance because ultimately its gonna be your preference on how you want the bridge to sit, and the more springs the merrier IMO because they hold the tension better with less required strength.

                              Using 2 or 3 springs only, you gotta really bury the claw screws down closer into the wood making it harder to fine-adjust, although I prefer using 2 springs myself for practicing.

                              I would prefer all 5 for recording.. more "points of contact" to the body for a smidgeon more body-string resonance.

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