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  • rustoffa
    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
    • Jan 2004
    • 8946

    Hang 'Em High: What's your take?

    Theologians, philosophasters, Heads of State, drunks....I've heard from just about every manner of VAN HALEN fan regarding the inspiration and meaning behind this little diddy.

    Most seem to favor the obvious:
    A tip of the perverbial hat to the ghosty Clint Eastwood westerns.

    Others have mentioned the Mad Max flick.

    "Carnie magicians", "Crazed roadies", "A shady promoter"...all manner of opinionated pontifications have passed my way.

    Personally, I think it's just good-ol' stream of consciousness DLR ramblings.

    Somewhere, I'm lost in a turn....explain this thing please.


    Somewhere, lost it in a turn
    Trouble seems to fit him like a glove.
    First come, First served, he's serving it back,
    Travels light, without a pack, without love.

    He comes from nowhere, returns on his own,
    late for the hanging, he's heading for the moon
    Hang `em High.

    Leather, across his thighs,
    Blasting out the night, he's terrified to drive.
    One eye on the road, crashed upon his head,
    One ear to the ground, he's listening to the dead.

    He comes from nowhere, returns on his own,
    late for the hanging, yes he's heading for the moon
    Hang `em High.

    Alone to himself, he's laughing up his sleeve,
    Looking back in anger, the city is releaved.
    Vision of Light,
    Child of the night,
    Passing by.
  • JCOOK

    #2
    I like to believe the Eastwood stuff...just feels right

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    • LookN4AMootBeat
      Head Fluffer
      • Nov 2004
      • 264

      #3
      I think it's just Dave's poetic mastery (I like that better than "ramblings")

      I prefer the bootleg version of the song with different lyrics called "Last Night"........I think it's a better song and they should've gone with those lyrics instead. Cooler guitar too.

      "Last night I tried to call her on the telephone..
      These busy signals only gave me no reply...
      Tell me babe, where you spendin all your time..
      Tell me babe, tell me all those lies

      Where were you.......where were you......last night!"

      Curious since I drove by your lights weren't on..
      (somthing in mush-mouth) told me that you weren't at home...
      Tell me babe, are those tears in your eyes.....
      Just another part of your disguise.....

      Check it out, you can find it on kazaa but i bet the bootleg section here has a link for it somewhere.
      I like Van Halen more than Dave's PA Rental.....which means I like Van Halen more than you


      "YOU JUST BUILD BIKES!"

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      • Carmine
        ROTH ARMY SUPREME
        • Apr 2004
        • 7691

        #4
        Whatever the inspiration....the tune kicks ass!

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        • rustoffa
          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
          • Jan 2004
          • 8946

          #5
          Come on folks...gimme some allegory.

          "Somewhere, lost it in a turn
          Trouble seems to fit him like a glove"......

          Death or change in lifes direction?

          Bad luck or born to lose?

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          • DlocRoth
            ROCKSTAR

            • Jan 2004
            • 5518

            #6
            He's just a bad motherfucker who gets into shit cuz he dont take any.
            Fuck Scott Weiland. Fucking asshole. I get trashed all the time and still go to work. And my job sucks ass. -ODShowtime

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            • DeadOrAlive
              Veteran
              • Jul 2004
              • 1683

              #7
              Love this song!!

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              • RogueHorseman
                Commando
                • Apr 2004
                • 1296

                #8
                Originally posted by rustoffa
                Come on folks...gimme some allegory.

                "Somewhere, lost it in a turn
                Trouble seems to fit him like a glove"......

                Death or change in lifes direction?

                Bad luck or born to lose?

                Go with the Eastwood analogy, trust Rogue on this one.

                When Dave writes about a turn, and he does quite often use the term, it is a dramatic turn of events.

                "trouble seems to fit him like a glove" -- Trouble is at the core of the mans being... it always finds him no matter where he goes, he accepts it, he welcomes it, and he wears it well. "First come, first served, he's serving it back- travels light, without a pack, without love".

                I dig it.
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                • RogueHorseman
                  Commando
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 1296

                  #9
                  Originally posted by RogueHorseman
                  Go with the Eastwood analogy, trust Rogue on this one.

                  When Dave writes about a turn, and he does quite often use the term, it is a dramatic turn of events.

                  "trouble seems to fit him like a glove" -- Trouble is at the core of the mans being... it always finds him no matter where he goes, he accepts it, he welcomes it, and he wears it well. "First come, first served, he's serving it back- travels light, without a pack, without love".

                  I dig it.
                  And further, Dave actually sings it with the words "he" and then "now" (placed before "trouble") used, like this-

                  Somewhere, he lost it in a turn
                  Now, trouble seems to fit him like a glove.
                  First come, First served, he's serving it back,
                  Travels light, without a pack, without love.


                  The "turn" signifies a significant, life changing event of some sort.

                  He lost the chick... took out someone, is on the lamb, etc.

                  Now, all he knows is trouble, and he is apparently taking some measure of pleasure from it as long as it lasts. No stakes, no love. He's headed for the moon...

                  But, this wasn't always the case.
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                  • aesop
                    Commando
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 1400

                    #10
                    There is a measure of vengeance being dealt out as well. "Serving it back" would tend to support this assumtion. Also, in "he lost it in a turn", the "it" would seem to be everything that mattered to most people, and used to matter to him.

                    Most people would think of family, friends, home, etc. when they think of happiness. He has none of those. He disovered that he was born to be renegade and a loner. "Bad luck or born to lose?", it doesn't matter. He is where he is and is dealing with it.

                    Definately fits the CE theory with the spagetti westerns. Or maybe it is actually about James Dean?
                    Yo Yo Yo

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                    • RogueHorseman
                      Commando
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 1296

                      #11
                      Originally posted by aesop
                      There is a measure of vengeance being dealt out as well. "Serving it back" would tend to support this assumtion. Also, in "he lost it in a turn", the "it" would seem to be everything that mattered to most people, and used to matter to him.
                      Precisely.

                      Well said.
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                      • DeadOrAlive
                        Veteran
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 1683

                        #12
                        Great song, great song! Last Night was the original unreleased tune...

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                        • rustoffa
                          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 8946

                          #13
                          Originally posted by RogueHorseman

                          The "turn" signifies a significant, life changing event of some sort.

                          He lost the chick... took out someone, is on the lamb, etc.

                          Now, all he knows is trouble, and he is apparently taking some measure of pleasure from it as long as it lasts. No stakes, no love. He's headed for the moon...

                          But, this wasn't always the case.
                          Great stuff Rogue.
                          Wherever "Somewhere" was really doesn't matter maybe?

                          Originally posted by aesop

                          Most people would think of family, friends, home, etc. when they think of happiness. He has none of those. He disovered that he was born to be renegade and a loner. "Bad luck or born to lose?", it doesn't matter. He is where he is and is dealing with it.
                          Precisely....5-star stuff right there.

                          "He comes from nowhere, returns on his own,
                          late for the hanging, he's heading for the moon
                          Hang `em High."

                          "Coming from nowhere and returning on one's own" would certainly support the nature of having "nobody waiting at home".

                          Was he "late" to the point of seriously fucking up?

                          Is he "heading" the wrong way on purpose?

                          Maybe he just avoided his own hanging.....

                          Theories abound!

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                          • Matt White
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 20497

                            #14
                            "Hang 'em High"

                            Hang 'Em High (1968)
                            Directed by
                            Ted Post

                            Writing credits
                            Leonard Freeman
                            Mel Goldberg

                            Tagline: The hanging was the best in town. But they made two mistakes. They hung the wrong man and they didn't finish the job.


                            Plot Outline: When an innocent man barely survives a lynching, he returns as a lawman determined to bring the vigilantes to justice.

                            I believe that the movie inspired the song. Watch it and give me your opinion.

                            I think he describes Clint Eastwood's MAN WITH NO NAME perfectly (Eventhough this character has a name):
                            "He comes from nowhere, returns on his own"
                            'Leather, across his thighs, Blasting out the night, HIS PAIR OF NITROUS EYES!"

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                            • rustoffa
                              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 8946

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Matt White
                              "Hang 'em High"

                              I think he describes Clint Eastwood's MAN WITH NO NAME perfectly (Eventhough this character has a name):
                              "He comes from nowhere, returns on his own"
                              'Leather, across his thighs, Blasting out the night, HIS PAIR OF NITROUS EYES!"
                              "Fist full of dollars", "For a few dollars more", " The good, the bad, and the ugly"....

                              Spaghetti westerns....the man with no name trilogy.

                              They borrowed the premise later in "High plains drifter".

                              It's cuntfusing if the CE thing is the thing.

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