Define the following..

[Big Train]

Test time. As I notice we toss these words around a lot (some more than others, you know who you are), I thought for the sake of clarity that we could define and come to some sort of general understanding of the following terms, so that they are not used out of context (again, you know who you are). Please define the following, as you understand them to be.

1. Liberal

2. Democrat

3. Conservative

4. Republican

5. Neo-Con

6. Fascist

7. BCE....scratch that, let
s stick to real things. Make believe words in the next thread..

[ELVIS]

1. Liberal - a person who favors a political philosophy of progress and reform and the protection of civil liberties

2. Democrat - a member of the Democratic Party

3. Conservative - a person who has conservative ideas or opinions

4. Republican - a member of the Republican Party

5. Neo-Con - a conservative who subscribes to neoconservativism

6. Fascist - an adherent of fascism or other right-wing authoritarian views

[Big Train]

Elvis,

Can you define a word by USING it in the definition? Just a question...

[ELVIS]

Haha...

My post was kind of a joke...

Maybe you should have been more specific...:D

[ELVIS]

I'm gonna add conservatism...

Conservatism is a political or theological orientation advocating the preservation of the best in society and opposing radical changes...

A conservative can be both republican or democrat...

I would classify gay marriage of an example of an attempt of radical change...

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by ELVIS
I'm gonna add conservatism...

Conservatism is a political or theological orientation advocating the preservation of the best in society and opposing radical changes...

A conservative can be both republican or democrat...

I would classify gay marriage of an example of an attempt of radical change...

And I would classify adding amendments to the U.S. Constitution to be an even more radical change.

[Warham]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
And I would classify adding amendments to the U.S. Constitution to be an even more radical change.

And I would classify that writing law from the bench is even more a radical change.

[FORD]

Originally posted by Warham
And I would classify that writing law from the bench is even more a radical change.

Such as Bush vs Gore 2000?

[FORD]

Re: Define the following..

Originally posted by Big Train
Test time. As I notice we toss these words around a lot (some more than others, you know who you are), I thought for the sake of clarity that we could define and come to some sort of general understanding of the following terms, so that they are not used out of context (again, you know who you are). Please define the following, as you understand them to be.

1. Liberal - Main Entry: 1lib·er·al
Pronunciation: 'li-b(&-)r&l
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French, from Latin liberalis suitable for a freeman, generous, from liber free; perhaps akin to Old English lEodan to grow, Greek eleutheros free
1 a : of, relating to, or based on the liberal arts <liberal education> b archaic : of or befitting a man of free birth
2 a : marked by generosity : OPENHANDED <a liberal giver> b : given or provided in a generous and openhanded way <a liberal meal> c : AMPLE, FULL
3 obsolete : lacking moral restraint : LICENTIOUS
4 : not literal or strict : LOOSE <a liberal translation>
5 : BROAD-MINDED; especially : not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or traditional forms
6 a : of, favoring, or based upon the principles of liberalism b capitalized : of or constituting a political party advocating or associated with the principles of political liberalism; especially : of or constituting a political party in the United Kingdom associated with ideals of individual especially economic freedom, greater individual participation in government, and constitutional, political, and administrative reforms designed to secure these objectives
- lib·er·al·ly /-b(&-)r&-lE/ adverb
- lib·er·al·ness noun
synonyms LIBERAL, GENEROUS, BOUNTIFUL, MUNIFICENT mean giving or given freely and unstintingly. LIBERAL suggests openhandedness in the giver and largeness in the thing or amount given <a teacher liberal with her praise>. GENEROUS stresses warmhearted readiness to give more than size or importance of the gift <a generous offer of help>. BOUNTIFUL suggests lavish, unremitting giving or providing <children spoiled by bountiful presents>. MUNIFICENT suggests a scale of giving appropriate to lords or princes <a munificent foundation grant>.

2. Democrat - Main Entry: dem·o·crat
Pronunciation: 'de-m&-"krat
Function: noun
1 a : an adherent of democracy b : one who practices social equality
2 capitalized : a member of the Democratic party of the U.S.

3. Conservative - Main Entry: 1con·ser·va·tive
Pronunciation: k&n-'s&r-v&-tiv
Function: adjective
1 : PRESERVATIVE
2 a : of or relating to a philosophy of conservatism b capitalized : of or constituting a political party professing the principles of conservatism : as (1) : of or constituting a party of the United Kingdom advocating support of established institutions (2) : PROGRESSIVE CONSERVATIVE
3 a : tending or disposed to maintain existing views, conditions, or institutions : TRADITIONAL b : marked by moderation or caution <a conservative estimate> c : marked by or relating to traditional norms of taste, elegance, style, or manners <a conservative suit>
4 : of or relating to Conservative Judaism
- con·ser·va·tive·ly adverb
- con·ser·va·tive·ness noun


4. Republican - Main Entry: 1re·pub·li·can
Pronunciation: ri-'p&-bli-k&n
Function: noun
1 : one that favors or supports a republican form of government
2 capitalized a : a member of a political party advocating republicanism b : a member of the Democratic-Republican party or of the Republican party of the U.S.

5. Neo-Con - Reactionary fascists who have hijacked the Republican party and are close to stealing the Democratic party as well

6. Fascist - Main Entry: fas·cism
Pronunciation: 'fa-"shi-z&m also 'fa-"si-
Function: noun
Etymology: Italian fascismo, from fascio bundle, fasces, group, from Latin fascis bundle & fasces fasces
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control <early instances of army fascism and brutality -- J. W. Aldridge>
- fas·cist /-shist also -sist/ noun or adjective, often capitalized
- fas·cis·tic /fa-'shis-tik also -'sis-/ adjective, often capitalized
- fas·cis·ti·cal·ly /-ti-k(&-)lE/ adverb, often capitalized

7. BCE- BUSH CRIMINAL EMPIRE - A group of treasonous fascists established through the funding of Adolf Hitler's Third Reich in the 1930's. Aside from their funding of Hitler, they are known for international drug smuggling and have funded terrorist regimes from Central America to the Middle East, including the Contras and Al Qaeda.

All definitions from Merriam Webster's Online Dictionary except #5 and #7

[ELVIS]

You are such an idiot...:D

You forgot to mention that the BCE only exists in your mind...

[Viking]

#5 and #7 courtesy of FORD's conspiracy-addled brain.

I proudly state - NAY, DECLARE FOR THE WORLD TO HEAR! - that I am a Ron Paul libertarian conservative - a strict Constitutionalist - and I don't harbor any delusions that the Illuminati are under my bed taking notes. :D

[FORD]

Originally posted by Viking
#5 and #7 courtesy of FORD's conspiracy-addled brain.

I proudly state - NAY, DECLARE FOR THE WORLD TO HEAR! - that I am a Ron Paul libertarian conservative - a strict Constitutionalist - and I don't harbor any delusions that the Illuminati are under my bed taking notes. :D

Ron Paul seems to be a reasonable guy. And he can't stand the BCE any more than I can

[Pink Spider]

Re: Define the following..

My personal definitions of each (no googling). Keep in mind that an economic liberal can be a conservative in ideology, etc:

1. Liberal -

Economic: Big spender, socialist.

Ideology: Has good intentions most of the time and believes in civil liberties except when it comes to defending one's self (guns).

2. Democrat - Their party once believed in democracy. Today their party is run by Neo-Liberals.

3. Conservative -
Economic: Sensible spenders.

Ideology: Strong desires toward a theocracy and interference in people's personal lives (except for guns, so they can shoot people that go against their religion :D).

4. Republican - Their party once believed in a republic as government. Today their party is run by Neo-cons.

5. Neo-Con - A fascist that wants the state to merge with business.

5.5 Neo-Liberal - A fascist that wants business to merge with the state.

6. Fascist - Economic: Planned economy.

Ideology: Authoritarian statist. Suppressor of liberties. In most historical cases, uses an enemy usually imaginary to gain more power for themselves and the state.

7. Libertarian (not the party) - Proponents for a minimalist state. In most cases, anti-war and pro-free market, in rare cases they can believe in communal socialism. I don't believe that you can be libertarian and support state sponsored war.



My beliefs: I was a liberal socialist at one point. After a lot of searching, I'm a free market libertarian. I believe in personal freedom and economic freedom (except for corporations poisoning people, of course). I'm indifferent to conservatism, a lot of liberalism and don't feel that I fit anywhere in their spectrums.

[Switch84]

Re: Define the following..

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Big Train
[B]
1. Liberal

2. Democrat

3. Conservative

4. Republican

5. Neo-Con

6. Fascist


All of them equal RICH WHITE MEN IN SUITS!


ROFLMAO!

[Big Train]

2. Democrat - Their party once believed in democracy. Today their party is run by Neo-Liberals.

Pink, what is a "Neo-Liberal"? How does this differ from a traditional liberal or a traditional Democrat?

These responses are interesting as to our own personal interpretation of things on this board...and FORD, I was looking for personal responses, not the Webster's version. Curious how YOU think, scary as that might be...