I TOLD YOU SO!! I TOLD YOU SO!!! Van Hagar™ IS BACK!!! I TOLD YOU SO!!!

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  • hitch1969©
    Sniper
    • Mar 2003
    • 783

    I TOLD YOU SO!! I TOLD YOU SO!!! Van Hagar™ IS BACK!!! I TOLD YOU SO!!!

    FUCK YEAH!!!

    It happened! It happened! It happened!!!

    Just like I fucking said it would!!!

    Fuckin' A BABY!!!

    I TOLD YOU SO
    I TOLD YOU SO
    NEENER NEENER!!

    BREASTS!!
    =h69=
    ...get your hitchworld on.
  • hitch1969©
    Sniper
    • Mar 2003
    • 783

    #2
    someone please get the franchise negro a STICKY STICKY STICKY goddammit!!

    and your finest bottle of Cabo Wabo Tequila, please!

    BREASTS!!

    =h69=
    ...get your hitchworld on.

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    • Cathedral
      ROTH ARMY ELITE
      • Jan 2004
      • 6618

      #3
      I felt it in the force, Van Halen no longer has a space in my heart.........Fuck Them, and i hope they fall flat on their faces...

      If i attend a show, would they throw me out for tossing Tomato's at them with a DLR Logo on them?

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      • Viking
        Veteran
        • Jan 2004
        • 1772

        #4
        WTF did I just miss?!?! :confused:

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        • hitch1969©
          Sniper
          • Mar 2003
          • 783

          #5
          Originally posted by Viking
          WTF did I just miss?!?! :confused:
          ...get your hitchworld on.

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          • Julius
            Foot Soldier
            • Jan 2004
            • 720

            #6
            Other than a Sammy song playing in the background, and Right Now being played before the player introductions... I don't see what the hubbub is.

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            • Viking
              Veteran
              • Jan 2004
              • 1772

              #7
              Did Mike play with Sammy at all during Superbash?

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              • Julius
                Foot Soldier
                • Jan 2004
                • 720

                #8
                Originally posted by Viking
                Did Mike play with Sammy at all during Superbash?
                No, but Kevin Dugan was spotted behind Sammy's rig.

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                • hitch1969©
                  Sniper
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 783

                  #9
                  Only I BILLieved™...

                  Only I was RIGHT.

                  GODDAMMIT MOTHERFUCK!!! I WANT A MOTHERFUCKING STICKY IN THE MAIN FORUMS OF THE GODDAMMNED MOTHERFUCKING DIAMOND DAVID LEE ROTH ARMY™!@!!


                  always trust the brilliant hitchBRAIN©.

                  BREASTS!!

                  =h69=
                  ...get your hitchworld on.

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                  • Cathedral
                    ROTH ARMY ELITE
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 6618

                    #10
                    If Kevin is there then so is our favorite puppet, Michael Anthony, lol...

                    He's like the dudes shadow n shit....

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                    • ELVIS
                      Banned
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 44120

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Viking
                      WTF did I just miss?!?! :confused:
                      Yeah what ??

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                      • Julius
                        Foot Soldier
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 720

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Cathedral
                        If Kevin is there then so is our favorite puppet, Michael Anthony, lol...

                        He's like the dudes shadow n shit....
                        Yep....

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                        • hitch1969©
                          Sniper
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 783

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Julius
                          Yep....

                          Hagar's last chance to get a good manager for the band rested with Tim
                          Collins, who handled Aerosmith. Sammy thought he would be a good fit for
                          Van Halen
                          , because he could help break Eddie from his drug and alcohol
                          dependency ! just as he had done with Joe Perry. Hagar says that when
                          the Boston native first hooked up with the Aerosmith guitarist in the
                          early '80s, he was in terrible shape, worse than Eddie Van Halen ever
                          thought of getting. Collins not only cleaned up Perry's act, he was
                          instrumental in reuniting him with Steven Tyler. When he assumed
                          management duties of the reformed band, a clean and sober Aerosmith once
                          again became a powerhouse in the music business. Sammy believed the
                          manager would do a good job of keeping Van Halen psychologically sound.

                          Things were starting to get a little goofy in the studio, as he puts it,
                          between Eddie and himself, and the band needed someone to calm things
                          down. Another factor weighing heavily in Collins' favor was his strong
                          relationship with MTV. Having won three video awards on their last
                          album, Hagar thought it was especially important for Van Halen's new
                          manager to have a strong relationship with the music video channel. Ray
                          Danniels, he found out, had absolutely no pull at the network. Sammy
                          thought it was vital to have MTV's support when the new album was
                          released. An Aerosmith/Van Halen combination, he was convinced, would
                          make both bands a powerful combination to be dealt with on a worldwide
                          level. "I figured with both groups under his control," explained Sammy,
                          "Tim could make phone calls and say, 'Oh, you don't like Van Halen.
                          Well, you aren't going to get Aerosmith either.' Hearing that, people
                          would go, 'Wait a minute; let's talk.'
                          With both bands at his disposal,
                          it would give Tim considerable clout in all aspects of the music
                          business. He could definitely help us out in the European market where
                          we had trouble. I really thought the brothers would understand that and
                          vote him in. When I mentioned his name to Alex, he said, 'Tim Collins?
                          He already manages Aerosmith. That's all he'll ever do. Aerosmith will
                          be No. 1, and we will always be second.' I told Al that wouldn't be the
                          case. In fact, I had already asked Tim that very question, about
                          juggling both bands. Since these guys were already slamming every
                          manager we talked to, I thought I'd better confront him on the issue
                          before he spoke with the brothers.

                          "Tim was very matter-of-fact with me on the subject. He told me that if
                          we scheduled everything just right, one band would be recording their
                          album, while the other one was out touring to support their new release.
                          Tim was up front and to the point with me about where his true allegiance
                          rested. He said, 'Sam, if there was ever a time when both Aerosmith and
                          Van Halen had a single coming out at the same time, my loyalty would lie
                          with Aerosmith first. I'm not stupid enough to do something like that,
                          but if it did happen and I was forced to make a decision for whatever
                          reason, Aerosmith would take precedence over Van Halen.' After he said
                          that, I knew he was the one we needed. If I would have posed that same
                          question to Ray in regards to Rush over Van Halen, he would have said,
                          'Oh well, of course it would be you.' He would have said we were No. 1
                          over his wife, his kids, you name it, just to manage the band. When Tim
                          told me that, I was thinking, 'Wow, that's a great statement. That's what
                          I want to hear.' I told Al about my conversation the next day, and he
                          said, 'That is a psychological ploy. He's been messing with all these
                          psychologists that are involved with Aerosmith. He knows exactly what to
                          say because of them.' I looked at Alex and said, 'Well, Ray's had
                          fucking Rush for 23 years. Do you think he's going to be more loyal to
                          us than them?' He said, 'Oh, Rush is going to retire. They are washed
                          up. Ray knows they're finished. He told me that himself.' Alex went on
                          and on with all this horseshit about Rush he'd been told by Ray."

                          Hagar says he was appalled at the negative comments directed toward Rush
                          by Alex Van Halen that he attributed directly to Ray Danniels. Sammy was
                          even more offended at the fact that Al's brother-in-law wanted to manage
                          Van Halen so badly, he was willing to sell out his other band to get the
                          job. For over two decades, Danniels had stood behind Rush. From what
                          Hagar was hearing, apparently that was a thing of the past. The Red
                          Rocker even spoke to Ray himself about the Canadian trio and was
                          astounded by the answers he received.

                          "Ray even bad-mouthed Rush to me," said an incredulous Hagar. "Can you
                          believe it? He was saying shit like, 'If they had a good singer, they
                          could have made it on pop radio.' He was telling me that with the kind
                          of music they play, Rush would never be any more than they already have
                          been. I started hammering him with questions. I said, 'Ray, Rush should
                          have been the Canadian Led Zeppelin. Why don't they sell records? Why
                          did their last record only do 400,000 or 500,000 records?' He said to
                          me, 'If they only had a singer.' He was crazy to say that, because Geddy
                          Lee has one of the most unique voices in rock. Rush's big problem is
                          they never had any videos which is one of the major complaints I had
                          against Ray. I knew his dealing with MTV would bury us. I even called
                          over there and asked them about their relationship with him. They didn't
                          even know who Ray Danniels was. When I told them he was the manager of
                          Rush, they said, 'Well, we never had a relationship with Rush. We've only
                          had a couple of videos from them.' In other words, Ray had no clout with
                          them whatsoever."

                          About a week after Alex and Sammy had their conversation, Hagar received
                          a phone call from Danniels. He was in management discussions with the
                          band Extreme, and wanted to know his thoughts about taking the band on as
                          a client. The Boston-based outfit had been under the guidance of Louis
                          Levine, who also managed Michael Bolton. The group, featuring Gary
                          Cherone on vocals and Nuno Bettencourt on guitar, hit the big time in
                          1991 with Pornograffiti. The double platinum album featured the No. 1
                          smash, "More Than Words" and the Top Ten hit, "Hole-Hearted." After that
                          record, the group stumbled badly and never again recaptured its past
                          glory. "Ray was kissing my ass so bad you wouldn't believe it," added
                          Hagar, shaking his head. "He called me and said, 'I have been asked to
                          manage Extreme. I want to know your opinion of it.' He was trying to get
                          me to say okay. Instead I just said, 'I don't think you should do it.
                          Extreme is a bunch of losers No. 1, and second, their career is over.
                          Ray went on to tell me that he had hired a guy in New York to handle the
                          situation, so it wouldn't get in the way of things. He says, 'I promise
                          you some other guy will manage the band. I'll just oversee it and help
                          them out politically.' Let me tell you, he got way involved with them.
                          When I brought up the subject of Ray managing Extreme to Alex, he said,
                          'Ah, fuck them. That doesn't matter; they're nothing. Besides, he's got
                          another guy to work with them anyway.' I'm thinking to myself, 'Here we
                          go again!'

                          While the debate over a new manager raged on, Van Halen was in the studio
                          working on the album they were dedicating to the memory of Ed Leffler.
                          David Lee Roth released Your Filthy Little Mouth on March 26. It entered
                          the Billboard charts at No. 78 and dropped off fourteen days later.
                          While Warner Bros. was trying to squeeze some airplay for Roth anywhere
                          in the country they could, the Red Rocker was busy promoting his 12-song
                          greatest hits album for Geffen. He called the record Unboxed, to poke fun
                          at all the artists and bands that were releasing boxed set collections at
                          the time. Released on April 2, Sammy stayed true to his word and did a
                          two-week press junket. He did the David Letterman Show and appeared on
                          CNN's Showbiz Today. He was slotted to do the Tonight Show and perform
                          "Give to Live," but the brothers forced Michael Anthony to withdraw from
                          Sammy's band at the last minute, thus cancelling the performance.

                          When Hagar returned to Los Angeles to resume the management debate, Sammy
                          was convinced more than ever that Tim Collins was their man. Aerosmith
                          was scheduled to kick off the Japanese leg of the Get a Grip tour in
                          Yokohama on April 27. Collins flew out to L. A. about two weeks before
                          the tour to talk with Van Halen and listen to some of the new songs. He
                          answered all the brothers' questions about conflict of interest and band
                          loyalties. He laid out his ideas for integrating his management style
                          with both groups. The more he explained his plans regarding Van Halen,
                          the further impressed Hagar became. After about a week of meetings with
                          the manager, urgent business in San Francisco called Sammy away. As he
                          was leaving for the airport, he told Collins they would speak shortly.
                          Hagar was fairlyc confident that Ray Danniels was going to be cast aside
                          in favor of the Aerosmith manager. When he returned to Los Angeles a
                          couple of days later, to resume work on the album, he was stunned by what
                          he saw in the studio. Eddie Van Halen's long hair was gone, and replaced
                          by a crew-cut.

                          "When we took a break from recording that day," the singer said, "I found
                          Alex outside smoking a cigarette, and asked him what had possessed Eddie
                          to cut his hair. He then told me about the late night rendezvous with
                          Tim Collins. After I had left town, Eddie called Tim late one evening in
                          his hotel room and told him he needed to talk to him right away. When he
                          arrived at the studio around two in the morning, Alex was there and sat
                          with Tim through this meeting. Eddie was in really bad shape, just fucked
                          up out of his brain. Valerie had apparently kicked him out of the house,
                          because she didn't want him drunk around the baby. Tim sat with Eddie
                          for two or three hours that night, while Edward laid his heavy guilt trip
                          on him. At one point, Eddie started crying, grabbed a pair of clippers,
                          and cut all his long hair in front of Tim. He said, 'I'm so frustrated.
                          I've got to stop drinking. I've got to stop doing drugs. I'm not happy,
                          I want to kill myself. I can't make a record like this. My wife hates
                          me.'
                          Alex told me his brother released every insecurity he ever had on
                          Tim Collins that night.
                          "About a week after this episode occurred, I
                          received a phone call from Tim in Japan. He confirmed Al's story, and
                          told me he was bowing out of the management picture. He said, 'I'm sorry
                          Sammy. I really love you and Van Halen, but I don't think I can handle
                          both bands. I don't think it would be fair for me to attempt it.
                          Besides, Steven Tyler doesn't want me to do it.' That was a polite way
                          for him to really say, 'I have my hands full with Joe Perry and Steven
                          Tyler. I can't take Eddie Van Halen, too!' I understood where Tim was
                          coming from completely. I told him thanks for spending all that time
                          with us and wished him good luck. From that point on, I resigned myself
                          to the fact that Ray Danniels was going to manage Van Halen whether I
                          liked it or not. But, I had meant every word I told him in our first
                          meeting, when I discovered he was the one behind the rumors about Shep,
                          Johnny and the other managers. He was never going to be my manager, I
                          didn't trust him, and I certainly didn't like the way he conducted
                          business. The animosity between us really started to heat up when I
                          absolutely refused to sign any documents that would acknowledge Ray
                          Danniels as my manager."
                          ...get your hitchworld on.

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                          • Viking
                            Veteran
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 1772

                            #14
                            I got out of breath just reading that....

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                            • ELVIS
                              Banned
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 44120

                              #15
                              New Van Hagar is gonna totally SUCK!

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