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lucky wilbury
11-29-2004, 07:37 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,139881,00.html

Hamas Willing to Consider Mideast Truce
Monday, November 29, 2004

RAMALLAH, West Bank — A senior Hamas leader indicated Monday that the militant group is halting attacks on Israelis while the Palestinians prepare to choose a new leader, the latest sign of change following the death of Yasser Arafat.

Sheik Hassan Yousef (search), the group's top leader in the West Bank, said Hamas also would consider a formal truce with Israel. Hamas (search) has carried out dozens of suicide bombings and other attacks, killing hundreds of Israelis during four years of fighting.

Since Arafat's death Nov. 11, there has been a sharp drop in violence. The Palestinians have turned their attention to Jan. 9 presidential elections, while Israel has curtailed its military activity and made a series of gestures meant to ensure that the vote goes smoothly.

"In the current situation, many political and militant groups have halted their attacks. They are waiting and exploring the new era," said Yousef, who was recently released from an Israeli prison after serving a 28-month sentence.

He also said that Hamas would consider a formal cease-fire, if Israel reciprocates. He said Israel must be prepared to release Palestinian prisoners, withdraw from occupied land and stop targeted killings of militants.

"The truce should have a price," he said. "There is no truce from one side. The truce should be two-way. But a truce with continued Israeli aggression is not acceptable to us."

The interim Palestinian leader, Mahmoud Abbas (search), has been highly critical of the armed uprising against Israel, and met with rival groups like Hamas in hopes of reaching a cease-fire. Abbas was to hold more talks with militant groups on Wednesday.

While Hamas is not fielding a candidate in the election, Yousef said the group is interested in becoming a faction within the Palestine Liberation Organization (search).

Abbas, the PLO chief, is the leading contender in the presidential election, according to opinion polls. Abbas appears to enjoy the tacit support of Israel and the United States.

Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon (search) has made a number of gestures to Abbas, saying that he is ready to meet the Palestinian leader and coordinate a planned pullout from the Gaza Strip next year with the Palestinians. Sharon refused to negotiate with Arafat.

Raanan Gissin, a spokesman for Sharon, said Israel has already eased its military presence in Palestinian areas to clear the way for elections.

"I think it's very clear we have scaled down our military operations," Gissin told The Associated Press. "We're not conducting any initiated military operations, with the exception of those intelligence reports about 'ticking bombs' or pending suicide attacks."

Senior military sources, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the army is focusing only on preventing attacks and is trying to avoid operations that would create tensions with the Palestinians.

The Palestinians, for their part, have also begun to crack down on internal chaos. Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia (search), who heads the National Security Council, said last week that he has ordered all members of the security services to return to their units.

The Palestinians acknowledge privately that many members of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades (search), a violent group with ties to the ruling Fatah movement, are members of the security forces who have not reported to their jobs during the past four years of fighting.

Ala'a Sanakra, an Al Aqsa leader in the West Bank city of Nablus, said the group is also considering a truce.

"We are watching the changes after Arafat's death. We haven't announced a truce from our side but we are exploring the future. If there is a real truce on the table, we will agree to it," he said.

lucky wilbury
11-29-2004, 07:45 PM
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/w-me/2004/nov/29/112903139.html


Hamas Leader Indicates Attacks on Hold
By RAMIT PLUSHNICK-MASTI
ASSOCIATED PRESS

JERUSALEM (AP) -
1129mideast-elex A local Hamas leader indicated Monday the militant group would not attack Israelis during the Palestinian presidential campaign and would consider a formal truce with Israel in the latest signs of hope for renewed peace efforts in the region.

However, just hours after Sheik Hassan Yousef spoke, two Hamas militants were killed while trying to attack an Israeli military outpost in Gaza, and another Hamas official said there was no such truce.

Meanwhile, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and a crucial coalition partner were locked in an angry budget standoff that could bring down the government and delay its planned withdrawal from the Gaza Strip.

There has been a sharp drop in violence since Yasser Arafat's death Nov. 11, with Palestinian militants cutting down on attacks and the Israeli army scaling back raids before the Jan. 9 election for Arafat's replacement.

"In the current situation, many political and militant groups have halted their attacks. They are waiting and exploring the new era," said Yousef, the top Hamas leader in the West Bank who recently was released from an Israeli prison after serving 28 months.

Hamas, which has killed hundreds of Israelis in attacks during the last four years, opposes the existence of the Jewish state.

Though Yousef is leader in the West Bank, the top leadership of Hamas, which is based in Lebanon, denied any halt to violence, citing a raid on an Israeli army base in Gaza on Monday.

In that attack, two Hamas militants approached the base near the settlement of Netzarim. Video released by Hamas showed soldiers shooting one attacker, whose body then exploded. The second attacker detonated explosives and threw hand grenades for several minutes before a tank killed him. There were no Israeli casualties.

"We do not see any contradiction between continuing the attacks and the resistance and arranging the Palestinian house," said Osama Hamdan, the group's spokesman in Beirut.

Interim Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas has been critical of the violent aspect of the uprising and has met with militant groups in hopes of reaching a cease-fire.

The Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades, a violent group with ties to Abbas' Fatah movement, said Monday it was considering such a truce.

"We are watching the changes after Arafat's death," said Ala'a Sanakra, a group leader in the West Bank city of Nablus. "If there is a real truce on the table, we will agree to it."

Sharon has pledged a number of gestures to Abbas - who is the top candidate in the election - saying he is prepared to coordinate his planned Gaza pullout next year with the Palestinians.

But a fight with one of his top coalition partners threatened Sharon's grasp on power, and with it the withdrawal.

In an effort to expand his minority 55-member coalition in the 120-member Knesset, Sharon has invited two ultra-Orthodox parties to join, promising to transfer $98 million to their interests in exchange for their vote on the 2005 budget.

That enraged the fiercely secular Shinui Party, which threatened to bolt the government with its 14 seats. The opposition Labor Party, which has provided Sharon a parliamentary safety net in support of the withdrawal plan, said it will not vote for the budget because of cuts in social spending.

If the budget does not pass by March 31, Sharon's government would automatically fall, but Sharon refused to back down.

"We will not allow this or that party to impose its position," Sharon told Likud lawmakers before the government survived three no-confidence votes Monday.

The collapse of the government could seriously damage hopes for Sharon's "disengagement" plan, which includes a withdrawal from Gaza and four West Bank settlements and the completion of a West Bank barrier to separate Israelis from Palestinians.

Officials said Monday that Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz approved a revised barrier route that an Israeli newspaper said would leave more land on the Palestinian side. The new plan will be brought to the Cabinet for approval, security officials said on condition of anonymity.

The new route cuts the amount of West Bank land on the Israeli side from 225,000 acres to 100,000 acres, the Haaretz daily newspaper reported.

The Israeli Supreme Court ordered the route changed, citing unnecessary hardship caused to Palestinians.

FORD
11-29-2004, 09:56 PM
Wow, the Israeli Mossad founded and funded Hamas decides to "call a truce" after Arafat dies.....

Next thing you know, the CIA founded and funded Al Qaeda will call a truce because Allah told Osama that Junior was a "man of God"

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

BigBadBrian
11-29-2004, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Wow, the Israeli Mossad founded and funded Hamas decides to "call a truce" after Arafat dies.....

Next thing you know, the CIA founded and funded Al Qaeda will call a truce because Allah told Osama that Junior was a "man of God"

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

FORD, you're absolutely pathetic. No credibility whatsoever when you say crap like this. :gulp:

FORD
11-29-2004, 10:22 PM
Do your research. Hamas was created by Mossad, just as Al Qaeda was created by BCE/CIA.

Hamas' purpose was to undermine Arafat and the PLO. Now that Arafat is dead, their mission is no longer relevant.

ODShowtime
12-01-2004, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by lucky wilbury
There has been a sharp drop in violence since Yasser Arafat's death Nov. 11, with Palestinian militants cutting down on attacks and the Israeli army scaling back raids before the Jan. 9 election for Arafat's replacement.

This is good news! I wonder who's gonna fuck it up this time?

FORD
12-02-2004, 12:27 AM
Originally posted by ODShowtime
This is good news! I wonder who's gonna fuck it up this time?

Sharon will fuck it up. Or one of his zombie Idiot Dumbass Fascists will empty an UZI into another child who was just trying to walk to school.

BigBadBrian
12-02-2004, 10:03 AM
Originally posted by FORD
Sharon will fuck it up. Or one of his zombie Idiot Dumbass Fascists will empty an UZI into another child who was just trying to walk to school.

Contrary to popular belief, the IDF primarily uses the Galil AR assault rifle and its variants vice the Uzi. :gulp:

http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/small_arms/galil/galilar_7.62.jpg

Nickdfresh
12-02-2004, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Contrary to popular belief, the IDF primarily uses the Galil AR assault rifle and its variants vice the Uzi. :gulp:




Actually, the Israelis have switched over to the M-16A2 derivatives such as the M-4 carbine, for the most part, because they are more accurated for shooting Palestinians.

http://brd3.chosun.com/bemil/files/BEMIL035/upload/M4%20Devgru%20Carbine.jpg

ODShowtime
12-02-2004, 11:45 AM
damn that's like gun porn there.

Big Train
12-02-2004, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Do your research. Hamas was created by Mossad, just as Al Qaeda was created by BCE/CIA.


Where would I do this research? The same place where you got your 9/11 thesis?

Nickdfresh
12-02-2004, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by Big Train
Where would I do this research? The same place where you got your 9/11 thesis?

I don't usually buy most of Fords conspiracy theories, but there might be something to that one.

BigBadBrian
12-02-2004, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Actually, the Israelis have switched over to the M-16A2 derivatives such as the M-4 carbine, for the most part, because they are more accurated for shooting Palestinians.

http://brd3.chosun.com/bemil/files/BEMIL035/upload/M4%20Devgru%20Carbine.jpg

That may be true for some of their Special Enforcement units, but the bulk of their front line infantry still use Galils. I'll take your word that they're gradually switching over, though.

I wonder if they'll switch when the US goes to the M8? That's going to happen soon from what I hear after some more field trials.



http://world.guns.ru/assault/xm8-ar.jpg