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franksters
12-01-2004, 07:44 PM
I guess bush is looking for friends now , his speach was all about how good canadian are...

I guess he finally acknowledge that no one can be the leader of the world alone it's like being a captain when there is no team..

hahaha

Big Train
12-01-2004, 07:54 PM
I dont know if I would go THAT far...

ODShowtime
12-01-2004, 08:02 PM
we just got over the crappy ass US tour and now the world tour is starting up?




at least the twins and spamual new when to call it quits!

franksters
12-01-2004, 08:07 PM
have you heard the speach ... the man is desperate to have allies in order to continue the work, mind you i have nothing against it u.s do the dirty work spend the trillions and we send some peace maker after and stabilise the situation, beleive me we are gettin some for our money!

also now the us dollar as drop and canadian dollar is up almost to the 90cent so it's all good..

US need to have allies like canada , great britain and so on or else no one will approve their actions, and afgan and irak is really nothing wait for korea china and maybe even russia to be in the game, believe me big train they need everybody because the other countries I just named , they don't fuck around and they have the money the man power and the technologie...

Angel
12-02-2004, 02:10 PM
Not only was it the first time I ever heard Bush use the word "multi-lateral", but I believed he used it 6 times.

His researchers and speech writers did a good job, I will give them that, but he can still shove the missile defence program.

Warham
12-02-2004, 02:20 PM
Just imagine if Canada was, say, next to Iraq or Iran. Do you think they would spend more money on their military, or do you think they would leave it up to their next door neighbors to do that for them?

Nickdfresh
12-02-2004, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by Warham
Just imagine if Canada was, say, next to Iraq or Iran. Do you think they would spend more money on their military, or do you think they would leave it up to their next door neighbors to do that for them?

Canada does need to spend more on defense. A Toronto based military analyst has recently predicted Canada will essentially be disarmed because most of its weapon's systems will have reached the end of their service lives.

Warham
12-02-2004, 02:37 PM
It'd never happen, but if America or any other heavily armed country like China wanted to invade Canada for the hell of it, they'd put up less of a fight than the Iraqis did when the U.S. went into Baghdad.

I heard Canada has a few thousand in their military. Not too many in case of an emergency.

BigBadBrian
12-02-2004, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by Angel
Not only was it the first time I ever heard Bush use the word "multi-lateral", but I believed he used it 6 times.

His researchers and speech writers did a good job, I will give them that, but he can still shove the missile defence program.

"Canada is like a loft apartment over a really great party!" - Robin Williams

:gulp:

Angel
12-02-2004, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
"Canada is like a loft apartment over a really great party!" - Robin Williams

:gulp:


I don't believe the quote is quite right. He described it up here as a quiet gathering of friends, compared to the crazy party down below. It's a compliment, not an insult.

- The Colonel ;)

BigBadBrian
12-02-2004, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by Angel
I don't believe the quote is quite right. He described it up here as a quiet gathering of friends, compared to the crazy party down below. It's a compliment, not an insult.

- The Colonel ;)

Colonel? You didn't see on DDLR where I promoted you?

Angel
12-02-2004, 02:58 PM
Oh shit, that's right, my bad!

- The GENERAL. ;)

franksters
12-02-2004, 05:21 PM
I wish canada will try to become a country that no one cares ( military way) like finland iceland norway switzerland ect...

that way we stay away from all that shit and we keep our independence intact..

Angel
12-02-2004, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by franksters
I wish canada will try to become a country that no one cares ( military way) like finland iceland norway switzerland ect...

that way we stay away from all that shit and we keep our independence intact..

Bonjour mes amis. Comment ca va?

I think we need to keep the peace-keeping that Pearson got us into.

You folks in PQ will be the ones to keep us out of the missile defense bullshit though. 65% of Quebec is against it, if Martin signs on, it would pretty much GUARANTEE a yes vote next referendum.

So, thanks to you Quebecer's - keep it up! :D

Viking
12-02-2004, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by Angel:

.....but he can still shove the missile defence program.

Worked there for three years. Oh, the stories I could tell........:D

FORD
12-02-2004, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by Warham
Just imagine if Canada was, say, next to Iraq or Iran.

They're next to the BCE. That's close enough.

JoeyT.
12-02-2004, 06:52 PM
Ford, Kerry and Edwards all got absolutely humiliated on Nov. 2. Humiliated is an understatement. 3 million votes. Wow.

Wayne L.
12-02-2004, 07:03 PM
Canada is the biggest joke of a country just as much as France is in opposing the war in Iraq because it wouldn't have made it at all without a little help from the U. S. I think President Bush was just trying to mend fences like most leaders do but Canada is waste of time anyway except for a few great rock, country & comedy acts.

BigBadBrian
12-02-2004, 07:14 PM
Maybe we can merge this thread and the one on the Intelligence Bill and the Canadians will finally get some intelligence. Especially Angel. :gulp:

franksters
12-03-2004, 09:15 AM
Originally posted by Wayne L.
Canada is the biggest joke of a country just as much as France is in opposing the war in Iraq because it wouldn't have made it at all without a little help from the U. S. I think President Bush was just trying to mend fences like most leaders do but Canada is waste of time anyway except for a few great rock, country & comedy acts.

At least by opposing to war we prevent things like 9/11 to happen here, believe me i traval a lot and anywhere around the world people respect and love canada, we also got voted best place to live on earth i think 4 years in a row,

as for the usa it's unfortunate but people usually hate you and in every country they have a name for u.s citizens isn't that funny!!

i'd rather have a canadian flag on my back than a us one, it usually get me favors! instead of trouble.

president bush is a morron and an hypocrite, he is driving your country down: money wise, health wise, military wise, he is making enemies for us everytime he speaks on an international platform, and on top of it he says they go defent the people of these country afgan irak ect.. but frankly it is just because of the gas issue: to secure your price of gas, usa don't go defend or liberate no one if they don't have some $$$$ involve...

why bush didn't sign kyoto : simply because he doesn't give a fuck about the world and the pollution.

he says he doesn't like dictator country and that the people should be free, WHY DOESN'T HE GO TO SAOUDIE ARABIA and kill those fuckers..

simply because usa buys 35% of it's gas and oil product from there...

so right now u.s.a for me stands for :united stupid assholes....

YEAHIMROTH!
12-03-2004, 09:32 AM
why do u americans treat whats going on like a computer game in iraq? with use the " goodies " and everyone else the " baddies " and speaking as someone from U.K fkn everyfkn person here hates america the only person who does i tony blair because he must be gettin something out if it. you ruined it for yourselves with your gung ho approach to everything. america summed up in one word = NEWBS.

franksters
12-03-2004, 09:48 AM
wow finally some back up!
thumbs up for you Yeahimroth!

WACF
12-03-2004, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by Wayne L.
Canada is the biggest joke of a country just as much as France is in opposing the war in Iraq because it wouldn't have made it at all without a little help from the U. S. I think President Bush was just trying to mend fences like most leaders do but Canada is waste of time anyway except for a few great rock, country & comedy acts.


Be careful, your intelligence is showing....

WACF
12-03-2004, 11:05 AM
....that was sarcasm.....

WACF
12-03-2004, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by Warham
It'd never happen, but if America or any other heavily armed country like China wanted to invade Canada for the hell of it, they'd put up less of a fight than the Iraqis did when the U.S. went into Baghdad.

I heard Canada has a few thousand in their military. Not too many in case of an emergency.

That is not true...our military is small but not that small.

Our military relies on reserves also...like your NG units...they are never counted into the numbers.

BigBadBrian
12-03-2004, 11:10 AM
Originally posted by YEAHIMROTH!
why do u americans treat whats going on like a computer game in iraq? with use the " goodies " and everyone else the " baddies " and speaking as someone from U.K fkn everyfkn person here hates america the only person who does i tony blair because he must be gettin something out if it. you ruined it for yourselves with your gung ho approach to everything. america summed up in one word = NEWBS.

You have had an incredibly poor education. A pity. :gulp:

WACF
12-03-2004, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by Angel

I think we need to keep the peace-keeping that Pearson got us into.



That is what gives us the ability to have a say in the goings on within the UN.

We are slipping though....

There is nothing wrong with peace keeping...it is our duty as a "Have" nation.
The thing the general pulbic do not seem to realize is that a peace keeping army must be a well trained and equiped fighting army...otherwise what good are you?
We have succeded but our lack of fresh replacements is cathcing up.
It took troubles in Afghanistan to finally get a decent jeep...Sea Kings, fuck...I bet if the PM had to fly to work everyday in one they would of been replaced long ago.

franksters
12-03-2004, 11:18 AM
I wonder if usa learns about other things than the us in school, cause they never seem to know where canada is and once a guy from california told me that he tough that north of new york was the ocean!!

I had to told him that montreal was the team that bet the l.a. in the stanley cup final so he would know what i was talking about, and by the way we don't live in igloos!

WACF
12-03-2004, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Canada does need to spend more on defense. A Toronto based military analyst has recently predicted Canada will essentially be disarmed because most of its weapon's systems will have reached the end of their service lives.

That is crap....

We have many short commings in equipment but what we do have is excellent.

The Coyote was relied on heavily by British and U.S. forces in Kosovo and once again in afghanistan...home grown technoligy.
The Lav III Kodiak is good kit...packs 25mm cannon at 100 Kmh/h with a infantry section in the rear.
Our frigates are one of the few allied nations that take command of your Carrier battle groups...

BigBadBrian
12-03-2004, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by franksters


so right now u.s.a for me stands for :united stupid assholes....

Elvis, sticky this bitch.

This fuckin' frog should be on everyone's SHIT LIST!!!! Give him 1 Star.

Nickdfresh
12-03-2004, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by WACF
That is crap....

We have many short commings in equipment but what we do have is excellent.

The Coyote was relied on heavily by British and U.S. forces in Kosovo and once again in afghanistan...home grown technoligy.
The Lav III Kodiak is good kit...packs 25mm cannon at 100 Kmh/h with a infantry section in the rear.
Our frigates are one of the few allied nations that take command of your Carrier battle groups...

I don't agree! Canada's underfunded military is subject to much national debate, scrutiny, and even comedy satire. I know this because I sometimes watch your TV. I am not criticizing everything nor do I mean this as a Nationalist bullshit ugly-American slap at Canadians as do some of my fellow Americans.

The personnel and some of the weapon systems of Canadian origin are top notch (U.S. commanders complemented Canadian snipers in Afghanistan after 9/11) and the U.S. Marines and Army use variants of the LAV(-25) and "Striker" APC.

But I will not backtrack on that, the ultimate victims of this is the members of your armed forces who can't even get new fucking helicopters for search and rescue!

WACF
12-03-2004, 04:15 PM
I should of posted that a little better...

I agree that our military needs to be better funded.
I read my post and I included that part in your quote...I should of taken that part out.

What I think is crap is the stance that the military will cease to exist.
They will always do the best they can with what they have.
My point is that the equipment that has been aquired by the infantry in the last few years is excellent.
They need to get their regular army numbers up...to prevent burnout.
In former Yugoslovia the majority of Canadians are reservists.

The helicopter debacle is horrible....we need better air and sea transport...which is being worked on.

The big thing is the public is just getting used to accepting we have a killing army. Too many years of government neglect.

Many Canadians most likely don't want to know that it was a PPCLI sniper that set the word long distance kill record in Afghanistan.

franksters
12-03-2004, 05:00 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Elvis, sticky this bitch.

This fuckin' frog should be on everyone's SHIT LIST!!!! Give him 1 Star.

Thanks for calling me a frog , we really see now who's uneducated

Angel
12-03-2004, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by Wayne L.
Canada is the biggest joke of a country just as much as France is in opposing the war in Iraq because it wouldn't have made it at all without a little help from the U. S. I think President Bush was just trying to mend fences like most leaders do but Canada is waste of time anyway except for a few great rock, country & comedy acts.

So does this mean that it would be okay with you if we stopped sending you hydro-electricity, oil, natural gas and water? :D

Big Train
12-03-2004, 06:58 PM
Yes....

Angel
12-03-2004, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by franksters
Thanks for calling me a frog , we really see now who's uneducated

Don't worry about it honey, he's called me the same thing I'm sure. His small mind can't comprehend bi-lingualism.

Just remember, if it wasn't for the USA, our country wouldn't have united the French and English like they did. Even now, we are joining together in our stance against US Foreign policy, and it is helping to re-unite the French and English, and re-kindle our ties.

Viva La Canada!

Angel
12-03-2004, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by Big Train
Yes....

If only I had the power, you'd be in the dark, Big Train. ;)

Big Train
12-03-2004, 07:03 PM
Yes please....if you would be willing to shut off all that we give to you.

Big Train
12-03-2004, 07:06 PM
If I had the power, you'd have no military protection, no trade with us and no foreign aid of any kind....just to watch the socialist house of cards fall,.......:)

WACF
12-03-2004, 07:14 PM
Dreamin' I see...

Big Train
12-03-2004, 07:17 PM
Yes Angel is, I agree

Nickdfresh
12-03-2004, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by Angel
Don't worry about it honey, he's called me the same thing I'm sure. His small mind can't comprehend bi-lingualism.

Just remember, if it wasn't for the USA, our country wouldn't have united the French and English like they did. Even now, we are joining together in our stance against US Foreign policy, and it is helping to re-unite the French and English, and re-kindle our ties.

Viva La Canada!

Will this keep the Quebec au in line, bilingual anti-Americanism.?

WACF
12-03-2004, 07:21 PM
At $21 billion in 2000, U.S.-Canada trade in energy is the largest U.S. energy trading relationship in the world. The primary components of U.S. energy trade with Canada are oil, natural gas, and electricity. Canada is the United States' largest oil supplier and the fifth-largest energy producing country in the world. Canada provides about 16% of U.S. oil imports and 14% of total U.S. consumption of natural gas. The United States and Canada's national electricity grids are linked and both countries share hydropower facilities on the Western borders.

Stolen from....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Canada

Nickdfresh
12-03-2004, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by Big Train
If I had the power, you'd have no military protection, no trade with us and no foreign aid of any kind....just to watch the socialist house of cards fall,.......:)

And we'd have a large, undefended northern border! Isn't one huge, porous, undefended border enough?

WACF
12-03-2004, 07:23 PM
Stolen from same site....

The U.S. is Canada's largest foreign investor; at the end of 1999, the stock of U.S. direct investment was estimated at $116.7 billion, or about 72% of total foreign direct investment in Canada. U.S. investment is primarily in Canada's mining and smelting industries, petroleum, chemicals, the manufacture of machinery and transportation equipment, and finance.

Canada is the third-largest foreign investor in the United States. At the end of 1999, the stock of Canadian direct investment in the United States was estimated at $90.4 billion. Canadian investment in the United States--which includes investment from Canadian holding companies in the Netherlands--is concentrated in manufacturing, wholesale trade, real estate, petroleum, finance, and insurance and other services.

Big Train....is foreign investment what you refer to as foreign aid or am I guessing wrong?

Big Train
12-03-2004, 07:29 PM
Where to start on this. First off, Angel and I have been going back and forth on this and my aim is to show her how shortsighted (which she usually is) her "shut off the taps" comments are. The nature of our relationships are far more complex than that and in order to "shut off the taps" all of what you just cited would go out the window. Whether you want to call it trade or aid, same difference really. We buy from you so as not to use up our own supply. We could just as easily buy more from other countries.

The military thing, how do you guage it since it is an indirect cost? The only way I can guage is to estimate what you guys would ACTUALLY need to defend a country your size and subtract it from how much we spend annually (which obviously protects you...NORAD alone is billions).

Big Train
12-03-2004, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
And we'd have a large, undefended northern border! Isn't one huge, porous, undefended border enough?

Umm, Nick, wtf? Our northern border is every bit as porous as our southern border..

Nickdfresh
12-03-2004, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by Big Train
Umm, Nick, wtf? Our northern border is every bit as porous as our southern border..

Not really, unlike Mexico, Canada is a fairly semi-secure, stable nation.

Big Train
12-03-2004, 07:46 PM
Yea who wouldn't possibly be harboring terrorists who made want to head south. Only those dirty, unstable Mexicans could possibly have terrorists....stop yourself.

Nickdfresh
12-03-2004, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by Big Train
Yea who wouldn't possibly be harboring terrorists who made want to head south. Only those dirty, unstable Mexicans could possibly have terrorists....stop yourself.

Most of them probably don't need either, they could capture a freighter and land right in NY or Boston harbor. Rumor has it, that's what the terrorists are actually trying to do because Mexican immigrant workers really don't like terrorists anymore than you or I. Nor does the RCMP.

But living near Buffalo, NY and "the Peace Bridge," I am well aware how important trade with Canada is. If you don't believe me, come to Buffalo some time and pull over on the Rte. 198 and watch the backup of tractor trailers that sometimes occurs on a Monday morning.

ODShowtime
12-03-2004, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by Big Train
Yea who wouldn't possibly be harboring terrorists who made want to head south. Only those dirty, unstable Mexicans could possibly have terrorists....stop yourself.

I visited Canada once and stayed at the apartment of an Iranian-Canadian. He told me about the missiles he heard landing near him during the Iran-Iraq war. They have another name for Canada: "Canadistan." :)

There are tons of Muslims (his family was Christian in Iran) in Canada, it's similar to the UK in that fashion.

Big Train
12-03-2004, 08:12 PM
Yea and the UK Muslim population has yet to give us ANY Terrorists..:)

ODShowtime
12-03-2004, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by Big Train
Yea and the UK Muslim population has yet to give us ANY Terrorists..:)

Yeah. They're happy up there. Dude was a scientist in College for chemistry or some shit. Showed me better hospitality than anyone except my family, ever.

I'm watching the Sarstock DVD right now. That's probably why I can remember it so clearly.

BigBadBrian
12-03-2004, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by Angel
Don't worry about it honey, he's called me the same thing I'm sure. His small mind can't comprehend bi-lingualism.

Just remember, if it wasn't for the USA, our country wouldn't have united the French and English like they did. Even now, we are joining together in our stance against US Foreign policy, and it is helping to re-unite the French and English, and re-kindle our ties.

Viva La Canada!

You are crazier than a shit house mouse. :gulp:

Diamondjimi
12-03-2004, 11:18 PM
Originally posted by franksters
At least by opposing to war we prevent things like 9/11 to happen here, believe me i traval a lot and anywhere around the world people respect and love canada, we also got voted best place to live on earth i think 4 years in a row,

as for the usa it's unfortunate but people usually hate you and in every country they have a name for u.s citizens isn't that funny!!

i'd rather have a canadian flag on my back than a us one, it usually get me favors! instead of trouble.

president bush is a moron and an hypocrite, he is driving your country down: money wise, health wise, military wise, he is making enemies for us everytime he speaks on an international platform, and on top of it he says they go defent the people of these country afgan irak ect.. but frankly it is just because of the gas issue: to secure your price of gas, usa don't go defend or liberate no one if they don't have some $$$$ involve...

why bush didn't sign kyoto : simply because he doesn't give a fuck about the world and the pollution.

he says he doesn't like dictator country and that the people should be free, WHY DOESN'T HE GO TO SAOUDIE ARABIA and kill those fuckers..

simply because usa buys 35% of it's gas and oil product from there...

so right now u.s.a for me stands for :united stupid assholes....

5 friggin stars for you brother !!!

Diamondjimi
12-03-2004, 11:34 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Elvis, sticky this!

This friendly neighbour should be on everyone's HIT LIST!!!! Give him 5 Stars
5 it is neighbour !

franksters
12-04-2004, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by Big Train
Yes please....if you would be willing to shut off all that we give to you.

What do you give us besides headaches?????

BigBadBrian
12-04-2004, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by franksters
What do you give us besides headaches?????


Protection and your number one trading partner. The fact that you let your armed forces decline to the state it is in now is a national shame for Canada. Just as it is for much of Europe. :gulp:

franksters
12-04-2004, 11:06 AM
Originally posted by Big Train
Yes please....if you would be willing to shut off all that we give to you.

What do you give us besides headaches?????
Originally posted by Big Train
If I had the power, you'd have no military protection, no trade with us and no foreign aid of any kind....just to watch the socialist house of cards fall,.......:)

that would be good because as your grand master bush devil said 1 9 billion dollar is being traded between canada and the states everyday, so go trade this with the other surrounding country...like cuba panama
mexico as they have so much buying power or maybe you guys should just trade with uruguay that would be easy no need to pay them !!

franksters
12-04-2004, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Protection and your number one trading partner. The fact that you let your armed forces decline to the state it is in now is a national shame for Canada. Just as it is for much of Europe. :gulp:

I agree with you brian, but i think that this is where canada is going nobody wants an army overhere, we just want to be involve a little bit in peace keeping and that's it.

why would we need an army , if we don't get involve in war there is nothing to fear, the image of canada is respected troughout the whole wide world!
don,t forget we didn,t go to irak we told you NO and nothing happen to us ,so we have no army and we can say no to the usa!

BigBadBrian
12-04-2004, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by franksters
I agree with you brian, but i think that this is where canada is going nobody wants an army overhere, we just want to be involve a little bit in peace keeping and that's it.

why would we need an army , if we don't get involve in war there is nothing to fear, the image of canada is respected troughout the whole wide world!
don,t forget we didn,t go to irak we told you NO and nothing happen to us ,so we have no army and we can say no to the usa!

So you're saying Canada doesn't need an Army because it is "loved and respected" throughout the world?

Big Train
12-04-2004, 12:44 PM
Yes he did, he is so "wise".

Franksters, the fact that you don't even realize what it is that we give you, means your fucking moron. You think there aren't countries in the world that would be all over you guys if we weren't around? Wake the fuck up.

And if you don't want our money, then so be it. That shortfall would certainly break your system.

franksters
12-04-2004, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
So you're saying Canada doesn't need an Army because it is "loved and respected" throughout the world?

No what i'm sayin is that we do not need an army period.

and that canada is a friendly country, we are certainly not hated around the world

franksters
12-04-2004, 01:51 PM
and we do not want to be the police of the world like the usa.we go more the the un, we even said no to bush and britain invitation to go to irak war and thank god we didn't go because we would be categorized like bush and blair friends...allies in a genocide...

franksters
12-04-2004, 01:53 PM
I wish we would simply be left alone like norway switzerland finland belgium ect... and i think we are going in that direction , anyway according to you there is nothing good here...

franksters
12-04-2004, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by Big Train
Yes he did, he is so "wise".

Franksters, the fact that you don't even realize what it is that we give you, means your fucking moron. You think there aren't countries in the world that would be all over you guys if we weren't around? Wake the fuck up.

And if you don't want our money, then so be it. That shortfall would certainly break your system.


Originally posted by Big Train
Yes he did, he is so "wise".

Franksters, the fact that you don't even realize what it is that we give you, means your fucking moron. You think there aren't countries in the world that would be all over you guys if we weren't around? Wake the fuck up.

And if you don't want our money, then so be it. That shortfall would certainly break your system.

There are a lot of country that don't deal with the usa and they are just fine...

franksters
12-04-2004, 08:20 PM
.

Ally_Kat
12-05-2004, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by franksters
and we do not want to be the police of the world like the usa.

And there are times that America doesn't want to be either.

She's the bad guy if she doesn't get involved.
She's the bad guy if she does get involved.

No one's ever happy with what she does. She's always wrong.

Who the fuck would want to voluntarily take that position?!

Big Train
12-05-2004, 04:04 AM
Originally posted by franksters
There are a lot of country that don't deal with the usa and they are just fine...

Please name the countries we Don't do business with and explain to me how well they are doing...I need your "enlightened" wisdom on this..

PHOENIX
12-05-2004, 07:09 PM
Les Americains sont une gange de manger mardes!:D

franksters
12-06-2004, 01:32 PM
http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/top/dst/current/deficit.html
http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/top/dst/current/surplus.html
http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/top/dst/current/balance.html

There you go BT I believe that there are a lot more country than the ones listed on those links...

Like I said before Canada should be like Norway, Netherlands , Switzerland, ect... these are countries that are good to live in for various reasons and they don't trade so much with the usa, they are also not involve in any war, and call me enlighten, If you think the usa are going to win agaisnt irak and then win agaisnt korea and potentially china and iran, that they will pay and support all of this in the next 20 years, not to mention the war on drugs that they will never win either,

let me tell you, YOUR THE ONE WHO IS ON ANOTHER PLANET...

this irak thing is putting usa down just admit it.

Big Train
12-06-2004, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by franksters
http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/top/dst/current/deficit.html
http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/top/dst/current/surplus.html
http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/top/dst/current/balance.html

There you go BT I believe that there are a lot more country than the ones listed on those links...


Franksters, you stupid fuck, READ the captions on those. It says "TOP TEN COUNTRIES", implying there are many, many more. Fucking think a little....

Your a complete moron if you think we are looking to fight every country in the world. Your an even bigger moron if you think the reason people don't bother Canada is simply because you are "nice". You walk next to a big stick, which is why nobody bothers you.

ODShowtime
12-06-2004, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by Big Train
Your an even bigger moron if you think the reason people don't bother Canada is simply because you are "nice". You walk next to a big stick, which is why nobody bothers you.

Have to agree with you there BT. If the schoolyard taught us anything, it's that the weak will be prayed upon ALWAYS. Being nice doesn't mean jack shit. You either fight back and win or you kowtow. Canada is in the enviable position of being friends with the biggest bully in the yard.

franksters
12-06-2004, 04:43 PM
Paul Martin,

just made an announcement, and he just confirm that canada will not send any troops to irak ( thank god) but we will help in the election process...

we say no again ( to usa ) and it feel sooo nice!

Big Train
12-06-2004, 04:46 PM
Your still a fucking idiot..

franksters
12-06-2004, 05:00 PM
http://ese.export.gov/SCRIPTS/hsrun.exe/Distributed/ITA2003_NATIONAL/MapXtreme.htx;start=HS_newMap

BT go on that site, it will show you the whole world global import export pattern and you will even get the balance showing how much usa owes canada!

enjoy!

Big Train
12-06-2004, 05:28 PM
Did somebody drop you face first on a hammer as a kid?

You fucking retarded french canadian, listen...We do business with most countries in the world. Some we sell more to, some we sell less too. As your particular country does a lot of business with us fine. We don't "Owe" you shit. We "buy" from you as you do from us. We could buy from elsewhere as well. Simple economics for a simple guy...

Now as to my previous posts, I guess your choosing to ignore what I am saying. I'm going to assume you are one of the lesser Canadians (as not to offend some on this board with some intelligence) and your understanding of the military and economic concepts I have tried to convey have gone right over you. Go back to your socialized education system and bone up...

franksters
12-06-2004, 11:03 PM
.check this out:according to bt usa owes nothing....

Seshmeister
12-07-2004, 01:21 AM
I think how i works is that effectively the US is borrowing from China and Japan to pay their debts to Canada.

Macro economics makes my head hurt...:)

Big Train
12-07-2004, 03:13 AM
Franksters, you motherfucking retard..

Trade Deficit
Annual amount spent by U.S. individuals, companies, and government agencies on foreign-made products, minus the amount spent by foreign entities on U.S.-made products.

This isn't a fucking DOLLAR AMOUNT we owe you, it is the amount of money MORE that we spend on your goods and services than you spend on yours..

Still working on that high school diploma I see, you fucking moron..

franksters
12-07-2004, 08:03 AM
So about your national deficit, it doesn,t exist???

so bt educate me, in every economical newspaper I see they mention that usa is in debt way past their eyeball....

to me if you import more than you export : you owe! but maybe I'm wrong?

Big Train
12-07-2004, 12:25 PM
You are absolutely wrong. Read my previous post, it's right there.

If you want to shift the argument (how liberal) and talk about our national debt, yes we do owe a lot of money, but so what? Are you looking for points, like America can't handle money, but great Canada can? Fuck off...

Go read a economics book, then come back and try to have an intelligent conversation.