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  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10625

    Iraq through Iraqis' eyes

    Iraq through Iraqis' eyes
    Jeff Jacoby


    December 17, 2004

    A year after Saddam Hussein was captured, how goes the liberation of Iraq?

    If a phrase like "the liberation of Iraq" strikes you as ironic, chances are most of what you know about the situation there comes from the mainstream press. After all, a tidal wave of journalism has been portraying Iraq as a chaotic mess more or less from the moment US troops entered the country. Story after story dwells on the inadequacy of the postwar planning and the drumbeat of bad news is inescapable: looting, insurgency, terrorists, kidnappings. And, always, the grimly mounting toll of Iraqi and US casualties. This is liberation?

    Yes, it is. But liberations are often dangerous and turbulent, less clear-cut while they are happening than they later become in retrospect. There was chaos during the US occupation of Germany after World War II, and journalists were certain then too that military victory was being squandered through postwar blunders. In 1946, leading publications concentrated bad news in articles with headlines like "How We Botched the German Occupation" (Saturday Evening Post), "US seen 'fumbling' its job in Germany" (New York Times), and "Americans Are Losing the Victory in Europe" (Life).

    But how would Iraq appear if it came to us not through the reporting of Western journalists, but through the candid testimony of the Iraqis themselves? American reporters accustomed to freedom and the rule of law experience Iraq today as a place of danger and violence. Iraqis who lived under Saddam were accustomed to tyranny, cruelty, and secret police. What do *they* make of their country today?

    Last spring, three enterprising Americans -- filmmakers Eric Manes and Martin Kunert, both former producers for MTV, and Gulf War veteran Archie Drury, a former Marine -- decided to find out. They distributed 150 digital video recorders to ordinary Iraqis and asked them to film anyone or anything they thought important -- and then pass the cameras on to someone else.

    From April to September, the cameras circulated from hand to hand through every region of the country. What eventually came back to the three Americans was 450 hours of raw video recorded by more than 2,000 Iraqis from all walks of life -- and not one frame of it influenced by an outside director or crew. Edited down to a taut 80 minutes, the result -- "Voices of Iraq" -- is a gripping documentary that for the first time shows Iraq as even the most skillful American journalist will never be able to show it: through the eyes and ears of Iraq's people.

    "Voices of Iraq" is by turns heartbreaking, exhilarating, and inspiring. The war and its destruction is never far from the surface. One of the opening scenes is of a car bombing in Sadr City, and when a little girl is asked by her off-camera interviewer, "What do you want to tell the world about Iraq?" she answers poignantly: "These explosions are hurting everyone." A mother weeps for her son, killed in the crossfire during a fight between US soldiers and looters. There is even footage -- supplied, Drury told NPR, by a sheik from Fallujah -- of insurgents preparing a bomb.

    But bad as the war is, the horror it ended -- Saddam Hussein's 24-year reign -- was worse.

    In the film, a young Kurdish mother tells her daughter, who is wielding the camcorder, how she would burn herself with cigarettes to prepare for the torture she knew was coming. A policeman recalls what it was like to arrest a member of the Ba'ath Party. "You'd be scared," he says. "You'd shake with fear." One man explains that Saddam's son Uday "used to come often to Ravad Street -- every Thursday for the market -- to choose a girl to rape." A few brief clips are shown from a captured Fedayeen Saddam videotape: A blindfolded man thrown to his death from a rooftop, a man's hand getting severed, someone's tongue being cut out.

    It isn't hard to understand the emotions of the man who answers, when asked how he reacted to the news of Saddam's capture, "I danced like this! I kept dancing. Then I cried."

    Yet for all they have been through, Iraqis come across as incredibly optimistic, hopeful, and enthusiastic. Above all, perhaps, *normal.* In "Voices of Iraq" they film themselves flying on rides in an amusement park, dancing the night away at a graduation party, taking their kids to a playground, shopping for cell phones. A police officer mugs for the camera. Shoppers throng the streets of Suleimaniyah. A scrawny kid pumps iron with a makeshift barbell -- and makes a request of Arnold Schwarzenegger. ("I like your movies. You're a good actor. Can you please send me some real weights?")

    Iraqis haven't had much experience with democracy, but we see the delight they take in the new opportunities Saddam's defeat is making possible. Two women celebrate the freedom to get a passport. An artist talks proudly about work for which he went to prison. A young woman says her dream is to be a lawyer. And one rough-looking fellow says simply, "I wish for a government elected by the Iraqi people."

    Yes, it's a liberation. And the men and women we liberated, it turns out, are people just like us. The headlines dwell on the bad news, and the bad news is certainly real. But things are looking up in Iraq, as the Iraqis themselves will be happy to tell you. All someone had to do was ask.



    ©2004 Boston Globe
    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush
  • DEMON CUNT
    Crazy Ass Mofo
    • Nov 2004
    • 3242

    #2
    Ol' Cap'n Cut and Paste strikes again!

    Banned 01/09/09 | Avatar | Aiken | Spammy | Extreme | Pump | Regular | The View | Toot

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    • Big Train
      Full Member Status

      • Apr 2004
      • 4013

      #3
      So things that support your arguments are "Fact" and things that don't are "Nazi propaganda"?

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      • BigBadBrian
        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
        • Jan 2004
        • 10625

        #4
        Originally posted by DEMON CUNT
        Ol' Cap'n Cut and Paste strikes again!

        No valid rebuttal, huh?
        “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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        • DEMON CUNT
          Crazy Ass Mofo
          • Nov 2004
          • 3242

          #5
          Originally posted by BigBadBrian
          No valid rebuttal, huh?
          I see a post with an entire article copied into it. (The easy part.) Just wondering if the poster has a point? (The hard part.)

          To me, the movie sounds incredible. I love documentaries and I am looking forward to seeing it. I will reserve further comment until then.

          Thanks for the info. Was this your point?

          Seen "Control Room"?
          Banned 01/09/09 | Avatar | Aiken | Spammy | Extreme | Pump | Regular | The View | Toot

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          • LoungeMachine
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Jul 2004
            • 32576

            #6
            Funny how those of you on the right skewered Michael Moore's 9/11 for showing Iraqi's pre-invasion enjoying amusement rides, weddings, etc.

            The rhetoric and propaganda spins from both sides. as it always will.

            But if NOW your "wish" is for a peceful, fun loving Iraq, you're in for a big hurt.

            Assassinations
            Coups
            Civil Wars

            Are just some of what you have to look forward to post "election"

            [and some may not even be at the hands of our CIA]

            Shouldnt you hawks be moving on to Iran about now?
            Originally posted by Kristy
            Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
            Originally posted by cadaverdog
            I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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            • Nickdfresh
              SUPER MODERATOR

              • Oct 2004
              • 49205

              #7
              I think we are going to have an Iraqi Government dominated by possibly pro-Iranian Shiite Clerics. How's that for a rosy outlook? Meanwhile, the guerilla war continues unabated.




              Iraqi insurgents renew attacks across north
              By SAMEER N. YACOUB
              Associated Press
              12/19/2004

              BAGHDAD, Iraq - Insurgents renewed attacks across northern Iraq on Saturday, targeting election offices, executing two civilians and wounding four American security contractors in a roadside bomb attack. An Iraqi militant group also claimed responsibility in a video posted on an Islamic Internet site for the Dec. 8 killing of two U.S. contractors.
              The Turkish Foreign Ministry condemned insurgents who Friday ambushed a Turkish diplomatic convoy and killed five Turkish security guards attached to Ankara's embassy in Baghdad and two of their Iraqi drivers in Mosul, 225 miles northwest of Baghdad.

              Three other Turks escaped the ambush to safety, including the embassy's defense attache who was wounded and taken to a U.S. military hospital, according to a Foreign Ministry statement issued Saturday. The statement said U.S. forces reportedly killed at least one militant.

              In Mosul, insurgents detonated a roadside bomb near a U.S. military patrol, wounding no soldiers but hitting a school bus. One eighth-grade student was killed and six were wounded, the military said in a statement.

              Iraq's insurgency appears to be consolidating in the country's north after intensive U.S.-led military operations in central and western Iraq aimed at uprooting militants made up mainly of Islamic extremists and loyalists of deposed dictator Saddam Hussein.

              The latest violence coincided with the commencement of judicial proceedings of Ali Hassan al-Majid and Sultan Hashim Ahmad for their alleged roles in an array of crimes committed during Saddam's 1968-2003 reign.

              Many Iraqis, particularly among the Shiite majority, have been eager to see the prosecution of the ousted regime begin.

              Militants fired mortar rounds Saturday at a voter-registration center in Dujail, north of the capital, killing a civilian and wounding eight others.

              Gunmen killed two men, apparently Iraqis, in execution-style slayings in the northern town of Beiji, Police Capt. Hakim Ali said Saturday. One victim was found with his hands tied behind his back.

              Also near Beiji, a roadside bomb exploded, wounding four American contractors employed by Florida-based Cochise Security to dispose of munitions in the area.

              An Iraqi militant group calling itself the "Jihad Brigades" claimed responsibility for killing American contractors Joseph Wemple, a builder from Orlando, Fla., and Dale Stoffel, vice president for international development for Pennsylvania-based engineering-construction contractor CLI USA, between Baghdad and the town of Taji, 12 miles to the north. The claim could not be verified

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              • LoungeMachine
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Jul 2004
                • 32576

                #8
                Just HOW did Rummy NOT see this coming?

                Cheney, Wolfie, Rumstein, Perle, yada yada yada

                No one other than Shinseki, and we all know what happened to him

                Chalabi, the indicted swindler who sat next to Laura during the SOTU address


                Now 2/3 of the Cabinet is shown the door, EXCEPT the biggest fuck up in the bunch, rummy?

                Poor CP is left out to twist for his UN debacle. Condi the Parrot is rewarded for her ineptness.

                Medals are given out as hush money

                Abu Grahib, Gitmo, Armor, and all rummy does is BLAME THE TROOPS??

                whatthefuck?
                Originally posted by Kristy
                Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                Originally posted by cadaverdog
                I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                • BigBadBrian
                  TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 10625

                  #9
                  Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                  Just HOW did Rummy NOT see this coming?

                  Cheney, Wolfie, Rumstein, Perle, yada yada yada

                  No one other than Shinseki, and we all know what happened to him

                  Chalabi, the indicted swindler who sat next to Laura during the SOTU address


                  Now 2/3 of the Cabinet is shown the door, EXCEPT the biggest fuck up in the bunch, rummy?

                  Poor CP is left out to twist for his UN debacle. Condi the Parrot is rewarded for her ineptness.

                  Medals are given out as hush money

                  Abu Grahib, Gitmo, Armor, and all rummy does is BLAME THE TROOPS??

                  whatthefuck?
                  Now there's a Kindergarten world-view of the situation.
                  “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                  • Nickdfresh
                    SUPER MODERATOR

                    • Oct 2004
                    • 49205

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                    Now there's a Kindergarten world-view of the situation.
                    Much like the Administrations.

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                    • LoungeMachine
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 32576

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                      Now there's a Kindergarten world-view of the situation.
                      Thank you for finally seeing my points.

                      The world sees this administration's constant greed, hypocrisy, and fuck ups and determines it MUST be run by a bunch of Kindergartners.

                      Welcome to our world B3. Surreal aint it?

                      You could write a movie script about the Shrub's last 4 years but no one would buy it. Too rediculous to believe.

                      The next 4 years will be even worse. For both Iraqi eyes, as well as our own.
                      Originally posted by Kristy
                      Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                      Originally posted by cadaverdog
                      I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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