Van Halen could've made it without Roth

[Bret]

I proclaim the Van Halen could have made it without David Lee Roth! Its about Eddie (time)! LOL!

I make much advertising money at my website (www.vhlinks.com)

Please visit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Bret
I proclaim the Van Halen could have made it without David Lee Roth! Its about Eddie (time)! LOL!

I make much advertising money at my website (www.vhlinks.com)

Please visit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I proclaim you to be a tool. Now shut the fuck up and go back to said links.

[DavidLeeNatra]

Originally posted by Bret
I proclaim the Van Halen could have made it without David Lee Roth!

at least you made it directly into the sheep pen....

[aesop]

Is Brett (2 T's) the same as Bret (1 T)? Just curious...

[lms2]

no

Bret with one t is an imposter

[Coyote]

Originally posted by Bret
I proclaim the Van Halen could have made it without David Lee Roth! Its about Eddie (time)! LOL!

I make much advertising money at my website (www.vhlinks.com)

Please visit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I couldn't care less 'bout some site that upholds the "sacred bonds between a man and a sheep". In other words: Shut the fuck up, bitch.

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by aesop
Is Brett (2 T's) the same as Bret (1 T)? Just curious...

There's also "Brett Norton" and "Brettt".

It's dizzying!

http://img154.exs.cx/img154/8850/brett6pe.jpg

[aesop]

Originally posted by lms2
no

Bret with one t is an imposter

Didn't think so.. Thanks for clarifying, LMS.

[DavidLeeNatra]

Originally posted by lms2
no

Bret with one t is an imposter

maybe it's an alias of somebody who has a name that ends with two similar letters, too...like rik(k)...just an example...of course...

[lms2]

could be... there are an awful lot of aliases here. :D

[aesop]

Originally posted by rustoffa
There's also "Brett Norton" and "Brettt".

It's dizzying!

http://img154.exs.cx/img154/8850/brett6pe.jpg

Cool pic! Do you watch the Game Show network? I do if I can't sleep. Gotta love those old newlywed game episodes!

"For 10 points, name the animal your spouse most likely resembled when she caught you "making whoopie" with another woman:

a) The Angry Beaver
b) Henrietta Hippo
c) Pinelope Porcupine
d) Rachelle Rabbitt who just wants to join in the fun

Tom?"

Well, Wink, actually, she never caught me...

[Coyote]

Originally posted by lms2
could be... there are an awful lot of aliases here. :D

Dare I claim that most members suffer from schizophrenia? :D

[lms2]

LOL

I wouldn't dispute that.

Sometimes I wonder how many acutal members the Roth Army has.

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by aesop
Cool pic! Do you watch the Game Show network? I do if I can't sleep. Gotta love those old newlywed game episodes!

"For 10 points, name the animal your spouse most likely resembled when she caught you "making whoopie" with another woman:

a) The Angry Beaver
b) Henrietta Hippo
c) Pinelope Porcupine
d) Rachelle Rabbitt who just wants to join in the fun

Tom?"

Well, Wink, actually, she never caught me...

Hahaha!

http://img67.exs.cx/img67/6632/soup5au.jpg

[DavidLeeNatra]

Originally posted by lms2
LOL

I wouldn't dispute that.

Sometimes I wonder how many acutal members the Roth Army has.

If you count from the regular posters...about 50-60... ;)

I'm fucking proud to say I NEVER USED AN ALIAS...aliases are gay!!!

[lms2]

Stella is my alias, and I have one alias that has never posted and is used for when I just want to spy on people or play games in the arcade but don't want to talk to anyone...

And I am NOT gay. :D

[Coyote]

Ditto, 'Natra!

*virtual glass raise*

[aesop]

Same here. I've never had an alias. I'll join you both in that toast. Crown anyone?

[DavidLeeNatra]

Originally posted by lms2
Stella is my alias, and I have one alias that has never posted and is used for when I just want to spy on people or play games in the arcade but don't want to talk to anyone...

And I am NOT gay. :D

I know you're not, darling...

[Coyote]

Originally posted by lms2
LOL

I wouldn't dispute that.

Sometimes I wonder how many acutal members the Roth Army has.

Hmm...

1+1=56* E=Mc² = I don't know. Roughly 5000 - 6000?

[aesop]

Aliases are GAY...Unless LMS uses one to play games in the arcade...or spy on us...HEY!!! WAIT A MINUTE!!!!

[DavidLeeNatra]

Originally posted by aesop
Same here. I've never had an alias. I'll join you both in that toast. Crown anyone?

cheers, brother...but you've been pissed off by some alias recently if I remember that correct ;)

[lms2]

Cheers!

[aesop]

Originally posted by DavidLeeNatra
cheers, brother...but you've been pissed off by some alias recently if I remember that correct ;)

Some people think that when they get humiliated repeatedly under one name that somehow by coming back under a different name the outcome will be different. Go figure!

[OUTAGAIN]

No bret you wong again. you stop make trouble here. Van halen very populer with dave. no more popular with sam. he sing like a girl.

[lms2]

Stella just came around to play with Splooge

[CROWBAR]

Careful now, the real brett gets "TEED" off if you misspell his name!:D

[Bob_R]

Originally posted by Bret
I make much advertising money at my website (www.vhlinks.com)

Please visit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Bret(t) I know wouldn't take a dime!

[Honeyhunter]

david lee roth screamed and vanhalen couldnt have kicked ass theway they did without him.the shit with samy hagar is a bunch of bullshit but my girlfriend likes it so i just put up with it.

[hot for david]

Originally posted by Bret
I proclaim the Van Halen could have made it without David Lee Roth! Its about Eddie (time)! LOL!

I make much advertising money at my website (www.vhlinks.com)

Please visit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GO BACK TO YOUR FUCKIN' LINK TO KISS SOME ASSES THERE , N' STILL BEIN' A FUCKIN' SHEEP
YOU HOMO

[Lou]

Originally posted by DavidLeeNatra
maybe it's an alias of somebody who has a name that ends with two similar letters, too...like rik(k)...just an example...of course...

Oh don't worry, Rikk is such a Brett/Seenbad/VHagar Links asskisser this can't possibly be him.

[Matt White]

"Van Halen could've made it without Roth".
Yeah, as car wash attendants.

[aesop]

Or strip club private booth janitors :)

[Bad Muthafucker]

Originally posted by Bret
I proclaim the Van Halen could have made it without David Lee Roth! Its about Eddie (time)! LOL!

I make much advertising money at my website (www.vhlinks.com)

Please visit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bret, i proclaim that your fucking loser mother needs to stop doing the loads of coke that she does because she can't handle your faggot ass and instead she should practice more at giving head. as it stands now, she's horrible! you would think that she would be good at it already from all the practice that she gets with your grandfather while your sicko grandmother videotapes, but hey, everybody's hit and miss!

[Terry]

Aliases don't really matter. Pretty easy to tell who's who if you give a shit. Sheep thread titles that serve no purpose other than to stir the pot are equally transparent.

Someone once said that God must love fools because he made so many of them. Thanks to Bret for the reaffirmation.

[DavidLeeNatra]

Originally posted by Terry
Someone once said that God must love fools because he made so many of them. Thanks to Bret for the reaffirmation.

and thanks the real bret(t) for a place to host them...but...he could make the fences a little bit higher...

[light 'em up!]

Originally posted by Bret
I proclaim the Van Halen could have made it without David Lee Roth!

Not a chance... there's no way. This is the MAIN reason why Sammy and the sisters despise Dave so much. They know Van Halen was Dave's machine. Sam and the sisters turned it into something else... crap.

[Terry]

Originally posted by DavidLeeNatra
and thanks the real bret(t) for a place to host them...but...he could make the fences a little bit higher...

Fuckin' A, Natty!

Swear it has gotta be the same 4 or 5 sheep registering under several pseudonymns that have been posting here since Feb of this year.

Either that, or the sites that cater to EVH/AVH and Hagar are so lame that they feel the need to come here and get some juice in their net lives. Can't believe there are that many lame fuckers out there. Then again, Van Hagar 2004 selling 8,000 out of 13,000 tickets says more about the sheer number of suckers still out there than it does about Van Halens waning draw on the concert circuit.

[DavidLeeNatra]

Originally posted by Terry
Fuckin' A, Natty!

Swear it has gotta be the same 4 or 5 sheep registering under several pseudonymns that have been posting here since Feb of this year.

Either that, or the sites that cater to EVH/AVH and Hagar are so lame that they feel the need to come here and get some juice in their net lives.

as I say...I sometimes go behind our enemies' lines and it's unbelievable what's going on there...and the sites for being lame...what do you expect from a site where you have to go through "rules" like this before posting:

Debate is encouraged here, however name calling and abuse isn't. The aim of the game is to get your point across without abusing the bejeezus out of your fellow users. This is intended to be a fun forum to yak it up with fellow VH fans worldwide, to keep everything enjoyable, so try and keep the following guidelines in mind:

- Above all, please respect the Admins, Mods & other users of this site. They are all Van Halen fans, and therefore can't possibly be bad people.

- Criticism of band members (past and present) is OK if its legitimate. 'Bashing' threads are not OK. It's at the moderator's discretion to decide if 'bashing' is occurring, and close the thread if warranted.

[DavidLeeNatra]

Originally posted by Terry
Then again, Van Hagar 2004 selling 8,000 out of 13,000 tickets says more about the sheer number of suckers still out there than it does about Van Halens waning draw on the concert circuit.

I mean...this is in "main" at the linx...nuff said;

Well, my wife bought Long Road to Cabo for me for Christmas. I wanted to say that of all of my music DVDs, this one is the best. Not because it is Sammy, but there is just a lot to it. There are two DVDs to it, and there is a lot of stuff on each one. It is very entertaining. He really lets the fans into his little world. The cameras go on the plane, in the dressing room, backstage, his house...you name it. It takes a class act to really hook up his fans with a quality DVD like that is all.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by DavidLeeNatra
If you count from the regular posters...about 50-60... ;)

I'm fucking proud to say I NEVER USED AN ALIAS...aliases are gay!!!

Ditto!! And agreed!

[Brett]

Fuck I must have missed this one. Cool another fan, although I sense this is the same boner registering over and over again different variations of my name.

[RogueHorseman]

Originally posted by DavidLeeNatra
I mean...this is in "main" at the linx...nuff said;

Well, my wife bought Long Road to Cabo for me for Christmas. I wanted to say that of all of my music DVDs, this one is the best. Not because it is Sammy, but there is just a lot to it. There are two DVDs to it, and there is a lot of stuff on each one. It is very entertaining. He really lets the fans into his little world. The cameras go on the plane, in the dressing room, backstage, his house...you name it. It takes a class act to really hook up his fans with a quality DVD like that is all.



Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha !!

Let me guess, this guys name is "mark"...

[Terry]

Originally posted by DavidLeeNatra
as I say...I sometimes go behind our enemies' lines and it's unbelievable what's going on there...and the sites for being lame...what do you expect from a site where you have to go through "rules" like this before posting:

Debate is encouraged here, however name calling and abuse isn't. The aim of the game is to get your point across without abusing the bejeezus out of your fellow users. This is intended to be a fun forum to yak it up with fellow VH fans worldwide, to keep everything enjoyable, so try and keep the following guidelines in mind:

- Above all, please respect the Admins, Mods & other users of this site. They are all Van Halen fans, and therefore can't possibly be bad people.

- Criticism of band members (past and present) is OK if its legitimate. 'Bashing' threads are not OK. It's at the moderator's discretion to decide if 'bashing' is occurring, and close the thread if warranted.


See, I went on and registered at the links about 2 or 3 years ago, printed out a bunch of interviews then went on my way. Last time I can recall taking part in the Links Wars was when a bunch of us were on DDLR.COM during the period where this site was being worked on.

After reading a bunch of posts here about what a bunch of jackasses the linkers were, recently decided to check it out for myself. It's funny how the rules you mentioned don't apply to Eddie Grunts shitting all over anyone who posts anything pro-Roth. There are a few over there who stick up for Dave, and they get dumped on by everyone. Kind of to be expected, right?

Pretty much what I discerned (here's a revelation for ya) is that it's basically a pro-EVH bias that drives the place. The criticisms of Roth over there are essentially parroted quotes and downright plagiarized lines from EVH/AVH/Hagar interviews. Am fairly certain that if Roth were in the band today and EVH/AVH said they had made a mistake with Hagar all along, the linkers attitude would follow suit.

Me, I don't think everything Dave says is some kernel of wisdom and not everything he's released is to my liking. Overall, he gets high marks in my book. At his worst, he still never fails to entertain. Not everyone on this site agrees with that, and it's the very disparity of opinion here that makes the site interesting. At the links, the uniformity of opinion makes the place as bland as post-1985 Van Halen music, but the utter lack of backbone there is what really turns me off. That's why linkers fare so poorly when they get over here and start spreading their kool-aid - just a bunch of of wooly thinking with a safety-in-numbers mentality. No wonder they're called sheep.

[Brett]

Some of you need claim to be so fucking carefree and funny, but you're some of the most uptight mofos I've ever read. My site does fine, it serves and purpose and I'm proud of what we've done there. I'd like to see any of you spend your own bread and start a board, and let's see how long it takes you to keep it going with 13,000 members for over 5 years. Such a bunch of arrogant dickheads. At least I can come here and fuck around, you guys take this shit so fucking seriously, as if it matters. Drop the holier than thou BS too. This site has as many pitfalls and nonsense as any other community. Believe me, I think most of you are confused sheep too, so what the fuck ever. Now stop being so fucking angry and serious all the time, it's boring. The war was over years ago, nobody cares. There is no uniformity of opinion, you fuckers just think that in order to have a argument about this stupid band, you have to sit and berate each other and post porn. God forbid anyone have a difference of opinion and choose to try to have a civil discussion. What's funny is most of you guys are definitely not as tough and as arrogant as you come off on these boards, most of you are genuinely nice people. When people get on these stupid ass sites, they turn into the biggest bunch of assholes, hiding behind their stupid keyboards.

[guwapo_rocker]

Originally posted by Brett
The war was over years ago, nobody cares.

But you CUNTinue to delete pro Dave posts at your site.:rolleyes:

[Brett]

Very little is ever deleted, what a bunch of shit dude and you fucking know it.. We delete posts where idiots are posting porn, threatening each other, and posting general nonsense (AKA Denny). And it rarely happens. Most of the time we close it. Considering many of the mods can't stand Sam-era VH, would be hard to delete every pro-Dave post. What a bunch of BS and you know it.

[guwapo_rocker]

Originally posted by Brett
God forbid anyone have a difference of opinion and choose to try to have a civil discussion. When people get on these stupid ass sites, they turn into the biggest bunch of assholes, hiding behind their stupid keyboards.

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[Brett]

Oh guwapo, go back to posting as the fucking hamster, you were more clever that way. Maybe Chelle will interview you again.

[guwapo_rocker]

Originally posted by Brett
Very little is ever deleted, what a bunch of shit dude and you fucking know it.. We delete posts where idiots are posting porn, threatening each other, and posting general nonsense (AKA Denny). And it rarely happens. Most of the time we close it. Considering many of the mods can't stand Sam-era VH, would be hard to delete every pro-Dave post. What a bunch of BS and you know it.

:rolleyes:

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[Brett]

I'm sorry Max and Rikk won't play with you anymore. *sniff*

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[guwapo_rocker]

Originally posted by Brett
I'm sorry Max and Rikk won't play with you anymore. *sniff*

They're far to busy sucking your dick Brett!!

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[Brett]

And you're far too busy sucking everyone else's.

[guwapo_rocker]

What's wrong Bret, nobody at your place??

No posts to delete??

Go play with your sheep dude!!

[Brett]

You seem busy though. You let me know when you have some free time.

[guwapo_rocker]

Okay okay, I'll head over to your place and give you some stuff to delete.

[RogueHorseman]

Originally posted by Terry
See, I went on and registered at the links about 2 or 3 years ago, printed out a bunch of interviews then went on my way. Last time I can recall taking part in the Links Wars was when a bunch of us were on DDLR.COM during the period where this site was being worked on.

After reading a bunch of posts here about what a bunch of jackasses the linkers were, recently decided to check it out for myself. It's funny how the rules you mentioned don't apply to Eddie Grunts shitting all over anyone who posts anything pro-Roth. There are a few over there who stick up for Dave, and they get dumped on by everyone. Kind of to be expected, right?

Pretty much what I discerned (here's a revelation for ya) is that it's basically a pro-EVH bias that drives the place. The criticisms of Roth over there are essentially parroted quotes and downright plagiarized lines from EVH/AVH/Hagar interviews. Am fairly certain that if Roth were in the band today and EVH/AVH said they had made a mistake with Hagar all along, the linkers attitude would follow suit.

Me, I don't think everything Dave says is some kernel of wisdom and not everything he's released is to my liking. Overall, he gets high marks in my book. At his worst, he still never fails to entertain. Not everyone on this site agrees with that, and it's the very disparity of opinion here that makes the site interesting. At the links, the uniformity of opinion makes the place as bland as post-1985 Van Halen music, but the utter lack of backbone there is what really turns me off. That's why linkers fare so poorly when they get over here and start spreading their kool-aid - just a bunch of of wooly thinking with a safety-in-numbers mentality. No wonder they're called sheep.

Very well said, and very much in line with my personal observations and thoughts.

[RogueHorseman]

Originally posted by Brett
...I'd like to see any of you spend your own bread and start a board, and let's see how long it takes you to keep it going with 13,000 members for over 5 years.

Does my 12 year old commercial site with 58,000+ members count?


God forbid anyone have a difference of opinion and choose to try to have a civil discussion...

One would hope this was said in jest, but obviously not.

What a riot.

Pot, I'd like you to meet the Kettle.

[Brett]

It's not a competition, I'm glad you have a successful site. You should know what a fucking pain in the ass it is then, certainly with that many members.

I'm totally civil on here when discussing VH, which is rare in itself because I simply don't care about the band much anymore. But I'm always able to see other's opinions. Plus, I think I take the mostly vicious comments pretty lightly.

You must have me confused with my many "fans" and the mass amounts of idiots who come here slamming Dave 24/7.

[Andertime]

Brett, If it's such a pain in the ass to keep your site going, why do you keep doing it? I'm not trying to be an ass, I'm just curious.

[Travis Bickle]

Originally posted by Brett
I'd like to see any of you spend your own bread and start a board, and let's see how long it takes you to keep it going with 13,000 members for over 5 years.

No one but you gives a fuck about how many members you have or how much money you spend.

Hey, it's the holiday season. There's plenty of crosses around. Grab one and nail yourself to it for all of your sacrifices. You hero, you.

[Brett]

Everyone cares!! Gosh darn it, I know they do. They told me they do.

It's called a "martyr" not a "hero" BTW dummy.

[Brett]

Originally posted by Andertime
Brett, If it's such a pain in the ass to keep your site going, why do you keep doing it? i'm not trying to be an ass, I'm just curious.

Seems kind of shitty to just cut everyone off at this point. It's a community for a lot of people, most of them just like to shoot the shit with each other, like they do here. Van Halen is almost secondary at this point, at least to those I've talked with. I never post about Van Halen much on there myself, because I'm bored with all of it.

It's a total 100% pain in the ass, and I don't really know why I keep it open, I just do. Put in a lot of work over the years, and just not ready to say bye yet I guess. Same reason Sarge didn't just walk away from here when it was gone for a year or so. I get no personal satisfaction from running it anymore, zero. I'd rather just post and enjoy myself at all these other sites anonymously that's for sure.

[RogueHorseman]

Originally posted by Brett
It's not a competition, I'm glad you have a successful site. You should know what a fucking pain in the ass it is then, certainly with that many members.

I'm totally civil on here when discussing VH, which is rare in itself because I simply don't care about the band much anymore. But I'm always able to see other's opinions. Plus, I think I take the mostly vicious comments pretty lightly.

You must have me confused with my many "fans" and the mass amounts of idiots who come here slamming Dave 24/7.

No Brett, I know who you are and don't have you confused with anyone else.

And yes, I can appreciate the effort of running a high traffic site. I do it for the payday, mostly, but there is a "help your fellow human being" thread among it all as well that in the end gives me the most satisfaction.

Consider this- I know for a fact that the CVH base dwarfs the Hagar era from radio listener research surveys, and the gap only widens yearly as time marches on. It is a legitimate landslide in CVH's favor. No contest, to the point of being an eye-opener even for those knowledgeable of the sales facts. But..... All one really need do is turn on the radio to know it, as major market programmers in ratings battles go by these listerner surveys like the gospel. It is, literally, what people want (and do not want) to hear.

Point being, when I've visited the links I get no sense of the CVH era truly being celebrated and honored. Especially, when it comes to one David Roth and his towering presence (to this day and forevermore) in regards to the band and their influence on the rock landscape.

Apparently, you have no interest in growing the site, but from a pure marketing standpoint you are catering to the minority segment of the VH niche.

[Brett]

I don't cater to any group of fan, you guys have made that distinction because people who like all eras of the band post there. And the idea that fans of Dave can't post there, or they're banned. Please, people are banned because they deserved to be banned. And the list is very short, you guys are under the impression everyone is banned. Give me a break, I think maybe now there are a total of 5 or 6 different people banned...people who come back with 50 different aliases. And hell, I've removed bans and given second chances to just about anyone who has asked me.

You know, believe it or not, there are some huge Dave-era only fans on my site who won't post here or DDLR because they don't like the atmospheres and attitudes here. These are the same people get into heated debates at my site about how much they hate Sam, but don't feel comfortable here. So it does go both ways.

Rogue, if I'm doing such a bad job, why are the numbers so good? If I'm catering to the wrong crowd, why am I getting 5 million page views a month? Go on Alexa.com, I don't know how accurate that is, but we're beating this site significantly, destroying the VHND, and now getting more views than the Official VH Site. And all this with me not doing much. So what am I missing here?

Right, there is no financial benefit for running the site, it's all based on personal satisfaction. And when I wander around and see people saying unbelievably cruel and untrue things to me, I get very little satisfaction from any of it. Which is why I want no part of it anymore, and you wouldn't either.

[jojo2371]

i read an interveiw with chris holmes were he stated that if it weren't
for dave ,eddie and alex would right now be playin a barmitzvah in someones backyard in pasedena!!!!!!!! classic and true !!!!!!!!

[RogueHorseman]

Originally posted by Brett
I don't cater to any group of fan, you guys have made that distinction because people who like all eras of the band post there. And the idea that fans of Dave can't post there, or they're banned. Please, people are banned because they deserved to be banned. And the list is very short, you guys are under the impression everyone is banned. Give me a break, I think maybe now there are a total of 5 or 6 different people banned...people who come back with 50 different aliases.

You know, believe it or not, there are some huge Dave-era only fans on my site who won't post here or DDLR because they don't like the atmospheres and attitudes here. These are the same people get into heated debates at my site about how much they hate Sam, but don't feel comfortable here. So it does go both ways.

Rogue, if I'm doing such a bad job, why are the numbers so good? If I'm catering to the wrong crowd, why am I getting 5 million page views a month? Go on Alexa.com, I don't know how accurate that is, but we're beating this site significantly, destroying the VHND, and almost getting more views than the Official VH Site. And all this with me not doing much. So what am I missing here?

Right, there is no financial benefit for running the site, it's all based on pesonal satisfaction. And when I wander around and see people saying unbelievably cruel and untrue things to me, I get very little satisfaction from any of it. Which is why I want no part of it anymore.

I don't think you so much set out to cater to that niche, as much as it was perhaps allowed to happen over time.

I really have no idea of what your guidelines are, nor the mindset of your moderators as a collective. Still, the site as a whole comes off as disrespectful to David.

Some of the wild types here are the trade-off, I suppose, of having a wide open forum. I could post at length about certain issues and problems here, but overall the trade-off has to be counted in the positive column if you ask me.

Alexa is somewhat accurate, at least for higher traffic sites. This place, for one thing, does not achieve very high SERPS in Google, etc. on key phrases people would search for with Van Halen in mind.

Likewise, the long down time here further hurts search engine ranks, as does the large number of re-directs employed here... The VHND became a joke, and nothing more than a vehicle to hawk wares. Nuff said there.

Bottom line, given all that the traffic here is very substantial and impressive according to Alexa. It greatly surpasses Dave's official site, as does my business site. No promotion, no SEO gets you nowhere as mentioned above... that applies to the official VH site as well. I kick their ass, too.

My "minority of the niche" comment holds water like the Hoover Dam however, no two ways about it. What you are seeing is mostly an effect of the "active" base being more centereed around this past summer tour, etc. If Dave were to rejoin, you'd see your traffic quadruple overnight. I guarantee it.

[DrMaddVibe]

WTF?

Go away!

[RogueHorseman]

Just did a quick Alexa scan for sh*ts and giggles, and really all the sites we're discussing are in the same relative ballpark...

Alexa rankings for 12/29/04

88,168 - rotharmy.com
81,929 - Official Van Halen site
79,713 - vhlinks.com

(keep in mind friends, the lower the number the higher the traffic)

[Brett]

There are all types of people on there. People disrespect Sam, Dave, Eddie, Al, Mike, Gary, Sherman the dog, nothing's gonna change that. What do you want me to do, make it an exclusive club like this one? The site is for Van Halen, that's what I cater to. Point blank, that's it. Dave fans like it here because they can do whatever they want, and say whatever they want, and know they're going to get backed up for sure. And hey that's great, why do I care? I appreciate what this site accomplishes.

What do you want me to do, hang out a sign and say, VHLinks likes Classic Van Halen? Ok for you I will.

Rogue, I don't know about all that Alexa stuff, people like you just did, tell me it's fairly accurate and a good measure of traffic.

I just get a laugh out of all of you guys telling me how shitty my site is, how it's a failure, and nobody wants to go there. How I suck, don't know what I'm doing, etc. etc. Yet somehow, I'm kicking everyone's ass including the official site. What promotion do I get? Where has VHLinks ever been mentioned? Nowhere. The Army has been mentioned in articles, and on VH1. I have no promotion, I get dicked on Yahoo's search results, yet somehow the site is still on top. I'm not taking away from this site's success, I think it's a testament to hard work. But to suggest I just sort of lucked out into this thing is pretty fucking insulting dude. I've put in the time, I just don't much anymore, it runs itself after all this time.

[Brett]

Originally posted by RogueHorseman
Just did a quick Alexa scan for sh*ts and giggles, and really all the sites we're discussing are in the same relative ballpark...

Alexa rankings for 12/29/04

88,168 - rotharmy.com
81,929 - Official Van Halen site
79,713 - vhlinks.com

(keep in mind friends, the lower the number the higher the traffic)

There ya go. Thanks for posting that. Don't forget the VHND sitting at like 160,000 or something. :)

Come on man, you don't think it's in some way cool that a stupid fan site is beating the Official VH Site? ;) Shit this place almost is too, and probably will be soon.

[academic punk]

Originally posted by aesop
Is Brett (2 T's) the same as Bret (1 T)? Just curious...


I doubt it. Brett is an all right guy and doesn't attempt to goad people with his posts.

this guy is just a plain douche trying to give Brett a bad name, I assume he's doing this b/c he can't get laid and his mommy is a crack whore.

[Brett]

Yes Bret with one "T" is me, I really never liked my name having two T's, so I decided that I'd register a username on this particular board with the one, so that I can finally rid myself of this goddamn burden my parents saddled me with. :)

[RogueHorseman]

I can remember when the talk was hot of Dave returning a few years ago and the Alexa rank here was like 40,000 something.

Don't know what you were drawing during that time Brett, but I seriously doubt the official site has ever achieved such traffic.

Frankly, I'm a bit surprised at how quickly traffic to this place regained to a high clip considering the long downtime it went through.

[Brett]

I would look from time to time, it was always higher than here and my site, by a lot. The last few months, we've all caught up. This site was pretty well known, I'm not surprised it got back up to speed that quickly. The official site was pretty substantial when they had the PD running on it.

[BlimpyCHIMP™]

Originally posted by Brett
Everyone cares!! Gosh darn it, I know they do. They told me they do.

It's called a "martyr" not a "hero" BTW dummy.

HERE YOU CAN SAY GODDAMIT YOU STUPID FUCKER W O BEAN BANNED AN SHIT YOU FUCKEN DUMMY

[Brett]

Yes I'm all about stopping people from using foul language, even though I can't complete a sentence without swearing myself. You silly tard.

[Thetruthbaby]

They might have had a couple of gold records because of the innovative guitar playing but after the novelty wore off (and it would have) they would have been done. I've said this before many times but unless you were there (and my guess is you weren't if you debate this) you will never understand ROTH's ENORMOUS APPEAL. In many people's eyes DLR was VAN HALEN. When most people thought of VH they though of DAVID LEE ROTH first. And when the MTV age was ushered in it was UNMISTAKEABLE who was drawing in the crowds. I'm a musician and a valuable lesson I learned a long time ago is that the vast majority of people buying rock albums are not musicians. ROTH realized this (obviously) and created a whole new type of rock frontman that was emulated by legions of other bands. That is why when you see these lists in magazines of the top 50 or 100 frontmen of all time DLR is usually in the top 5 or 10. That is why you'll rarely meet ANYONE who thinks Vhagar was even comparable to VAN HALEN if they were around in the late 70's and early 80's. I saw VH in 84' and the bottom line is it was DLR and the boys. And that is how the crowd looked at it. In school the next day all I remember people talking about was DLR. Not Eddie VH. Of course Eddie was of great importance musically, but DLR was what set VH apart from all of the rest of the bands. Like I said, you had to be there to get it. Sadly most of the hagar fans I've met or heard talk about this band were not there. And they don't get it.

[Brett]

Dave was the show, but don't say people weren't drawn in by Eddie and his playing. When I wanted to play guitar when I was 13, I wanted to be Eddie Van Halen, not David Lee Roth, although I loved what Dave did. Dave's image I think is what people associated with VH, but Eddie was a huge man, come on. Dude I saw VH in 1984 too, and people were going just as nuts for Ed as they did for Dave. Now come on, be fair. I know you want to hate Ed, but be honest. Ed's playing also set VH apart from any other band at that time. There's a reason why Ed's playing was so influential, and it wasn't because people liked Dave best. :confused: It was the combination that made VH what it was. Dave was the perfect mouthpiece and showman for that. Don't revise history. I went to school the next day and said I saw "Van Halen," not "Dave and his backing band." If you're implying that's what VH was then, you're full of shit. No crowd going to a Van Halen concert saw the band like that.

[RogueHorseman]

Originally posted by Brett
I would look from time to time, it was always higher than here and my site, by a lot. The last few months, we've all caught up. This site was pretty well known, I'm not surprised it got back up to speed that quickly. The official site was pretty substantial when they had the PD running on it.

Oh yes, the Pleasure Dome... I had forgotten all about that, so I'm sure they were ranking big with that traffic.

[Thetruthbaby]

Like I said before you're a typical guitar player who worships Eddie. You just don't understand that the majority of VH fans buying albums and going to concerts were not guitar players. PERIOD. And yes I saw VH in 84' 2 times in 2 different cities (in the same state) and the crowd was totally going apeshit for ROTH. And no they were not into Eddie in the same way. Funny, I remember going to Daytona Beach around 83' or so and seeing a VH Tshirt with a picture of ONLY DLR on the front with the VH logo on it. I NEVER REMEMBER SEEING ANYTHING LIKE THAT with just a picture of Eddie on the front. Brett your agenda is plain for everyone to see. Problem is it's a joke. Vhagar were not comparable to VAN HALEN. And everyone who remembers 78-84 VH knows the real truth about who the star was in that band. Guitarists who worship Eddie don't have a f'ing clue and they never will. Revise history my ass, I'm recounting the truth. When DLR left VH they went from selling 6 million albums to selling 3 million albums. And a sold out tour to a tour that had plenty of cities with tix still remaining at showtime. VH NEVER sold out my home town after ROTH left and they stopped coming alltogether after the disappointing turnout of the FUCK tour. The Monsters Of Rock tour in 88' was suppose to be a yearly event when they first decided to put it together. After the disaster of the Vhagar led tour they scrapped that idea quickly. If you don't realize that a ROTH/VH led MORock tour would have been much bigger than I PITY YOU. I knew many of my friends who stopped going to Vh shows after ROTH left and many others who talked of the disappointment of seeing them with hagar while lamenting that the magic was gone. VH's legacy is with ROTH, and greatly because of him. Every news article I saw about this "reunion" tour had something to say about ROTH and most of them were campaigning for his return. Many even made fun of the hagar led lineup. If Eddie were as important as you claim this wound't happen. And it wouldn't matter who the singer was. But we all know the real truth. ROTH comes back for a short while in 96' and the greatest hits album debut's at #1 and ends up going double platinum. The rumored tour is the talk of the industry and the rock public. hagar comes back (with your idol Eddie) and the album barely goes gold despite 3 new tracks and the tour has disappointing results to say the least not even averaging 9,000 per night. Yeah Brett, it's all about Eddie.

[Brett]

Oh whatever dude, I understand fucking perfectly, I was all of 13, hardly a typical guitar player worshipping Ed. I didn't even know how to play you dummy, I was a fucking kid. I didn't know from anything like that. I was a fan of the band, there wasn't all this retarded anger in 1984. Nobody went to school and said "Dave rules, Eddie sucks, it's Dave's band." That's something that morons say in 2004, creating pretend drama about the fans' perception of the band in 1984.

What agenda? Dude seriously what are you talking about? I am not even talking post-Dave shit. Are you trying to pick a fight with me for some reason? Who the fuck is arguing VH was better with Sam? Dork.

Your point is to say VH was all about Dave, nobody cared about Ed, or anything else. Right? Ok then. Well you're wrong, and you're either stupid, or just plain saying shit to drive a stupid argument.

And what is your hometown? Certainly not LA. VH sold out plenty of times with Sam here, so just drop that stupid argument. Not even sure why you're even making that argument. I know you can't help yourself, but at least try to tell the truth once in a while.

[Thetruthbaby]

when you give the herd numbers/stats/ and specific examples to make a point they resort to name calliing. CLASSIC. They don't like to hear about vh's failures post DLR. I guess I wouldn't either If I didn't know my ass from a hole in the ground and thought that Eddie was as big as ROTH 78-84. Like I said CLASSIC.

[Brett]

What do you mean as big? The band was big, Eddie's talent was recognized and emulated by a herd of players. People loved watching Dave's antics. My god, get a grip.

[Brett]

No truth what happens is you can't stand when anyone with a half brain reacts to your ridiculous rants and calls you on it. I'm sorry I'm not sucking your DLR-knob like the rest of this board does. But you say things that are just naueastingly bullshit in nature. "Dave was the whole band, nobody cared about Eddie." Yeah ok, keep believing that. Like any of that stupid inter-fan animosity existed amongst the fan base 25 years ago.

When you post stats and they're right, I say all the time, yep. When you go on these self-serving rants that are so full of silly anger and over-exaggeration, then I respond. Stop whining about it.

Of course, just remember, you were the first to say this tour wasn't Top 10 man, even though I said by sheer raw numbers it had to be. You didn't tell the truth then did you? ;) Don't spin it, just admit you didn't really know the correct info at first, because VH was left out of the article.

[BlimpyCHIMP™]

Originally posted by Brett
You silly tard.

YOU LIMPWRISTED LISPER.

[Thetruthbaby]

Actually I posted info that Blabbermouth posted as being a list from Billboard Magazine. A list that is still on Blabbermouth's site right now. And I said so at the time. As for the rest like I said before, you're a Eddie nut licker. Obvious to everyone here. I never said Eddie was unimportant (LIE --naughty boy). But like I said before, VH lost half of the sales they enjoyed from 1984 to 5150. The tour for 5150 was less successful, and I still have NEVER encountered anyone who remembers VH t shirts with only pictures of Eddie on them between 78-84 when ROTH was in the band. When ROTH was in VH it was mostly about ROTH in the press. Same thing in 96' while it lasted. You just hate it because you swing from Eddie's balls and probably believed everything he said post 85'a about the original breakup. You've invested a good chunk of your life in Eddie VH, you can't admit you were wrong now. Trust me I get it. FOOL.

[academic punk]

Originally posted by Brett
No truth what happens is you can't stand when anyone with a half brain reacts to your ridiculous rants and calls you on it. I'm sorry I'm not sucking your DLR-knob like the rest of this board does. But you say things that are just naueastingly bullshit in nature. "Dave was the whole band, nobody cared about Eddie." Yeah ok, keep believing that. Like any of that stupid inter-fan animosity existed amongst the fan base 25 years ago.

When you post stats and they're right, I say all the time, yep. When you go on these self-serving rants that are so full of silly anger and over-exaggeration, then I respond. Stop whining about it.

Of course, just remember, you were the first to say this tour wasn't Top 10 man, even though I said by sheer raw numbers it had to be. You didn't tell the truth then did you? ;) Don't spin it, just admit you didn't really know the correct info at first, because VH was left out of the article.


Okay, look, this is RIDICULOUS. Brett did NOTHING wrong here as far as I can tell. Some asshole posted in pretending to be him, to give him grief, and everyone on this site jumped at the chance.

Do I agree with his taste in music? No. Do I like his site? No, it's a little too much of a pian the ass to deal with, as others have noted. and, BTW, thetruthbaby, you've nailed how i feel about the whole thing.

But he's a good guy, who does take his free time to provide a service - a FREE service for his peers and fellow fans. You want him to come here and start pretedning to be somehting he's not? All he's done is defend himself, his (inexplicable) taste in music, and RESPOND to some of the accusations thorwn at him.

Do I know this guy? No. Am I a member on his site? Lord, no. am i glad he comes here occasionally and shares his point of view? ABSOLUTELY: moreso than some of the racist, misogynistyic, anti-semitic (and that makes a lot fo sense on a dave ROTH site) members on this board.

[Brett]

What's obvious is I backed you into a corner with your silly rant, and now you're mad. I know what you posted from Blabbermouth, but it wasn't very accurate was it? So it really wasn't the complete truth as you claimed it was, was it?

Shirts with Eddie on them during the Dave era? Hmm....dude I was too young back then to remember what shirts they had. I can't really remember that many apart from the ones that had VH logos on them, or the '82 'Sheep' tour shirts. If you say there were no Ed shirts, ok then there weren't. No sure what that proves, but ok.

No you said when you went to school to talk about the show, it was all about Dave. I say bull-fucking-shit to that. There wasn't this division in the fan base that there is now, where you felt you had to take a side. There was no fucking side to take.

Dave was in the press? I would hope so, he was the fucking singer of one of rock's biggest acts and a great spokesman for the band. Who the fuck is denying that? Ed got his fair share of press from the guitar nerds, I realize to you that doesn't make his contributions worthy of much, that he was revered by such losers and musicians, but whatever. I forgot that chicks who wanted to suck Dave's dick after the show are the legitimate fans that matter to you.

[BlimpyCHIMP™]

VAN HALEN COULD NOT HAVE MADE IT WITHOUT ROTH

DAVE AND NATHAN FUNDED VAN HALEN

NATHAN PAID FOR AND PERSONALLY PROMOTED VAN HALEN AT ALL THOSE PASADENA CIVIC SHOWS

ED AND AL COULDN'T AFFORD BICYCLE TIRE PATCHES TO SHOW UP FOR PRACTICE, YOU QUEEN OF CUNTS

NATHAN PICKED THEM UP OR ROTH BORROWED NATHANS CAR TO PICK THEM UP TO REHEARSE AT WHERE???

TO REHEARSE AT THE ROTH HOUSE

NOT ANYWHERE ELSE
NOT BY NOBODY ELSE
NOT WITH ANYONE ELSE'S MONEY
VIDEOED BY NOT ANYONE ELSE'S CAMERA BUT NATHANS


VAN HALEN COULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED
VAN HALEND DID NOT HAPPEN
VAN HALEN WOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED EVER

WITHOUT ROTH

NOW SAY IT WITH ME BRETT I APOLOGIZE

I WAS TOO YOUNG TO EVEN KNOW THE VAN HALEN OF THE SEVENTIES WAS A SHIT BAND WITHOUT ROTH BECAUSE ALL I SEE ON MTV IS EDDIE-EDDIE-EDDIE AND IM BLIND TO ALL OTHER FACTS AND IM SORRY

BC!!
MERRY FUCKING XMAS YERSELF

[BlimpyCHIMP™]

CUNT

[Brett]

That was really dumb.

Oh and at 31, you knew even less than me about VH in the seventies little boy.

[Thetruthbaby]

Like I said, to people who were old enough to remember -VH in the mainstream was mostly about Dave during his tenure. And fuck yes most of the people who talked about the shows the next day were talking about ROTH, not some fingering technique that Eddie VH did during his solo nimrod. What you CONTINUALLY fail to realize is that guitarists do not make up the majority of VH fans. Not even half. Eddie has a pretty significant loyal legion of guitar fans, but you do not sell nearly 6 million copies in a year and a half (1984's numbers) to guitar players. Not even remotely close. And if you saw them in L.A. then you need to realize that L.A. is the entertainment capital of the world. There are a lot more musicians in L.A. (and have been) than in ANY other place in the U.S. with the possible exception of NYCity. So it's not comparable at all with the rest of the country. I saw VH 2 times in Nashville TN and Knoxville TN on 1984 and it was more about DLR than Eddie, EASILY. And my cousin saw them in Indianapolis on 1984 and said the same thing. Sold out in advance and the crowd completely in the palm of DLR's hand. I don't know what in the hell you think you remember but DLR was THE star of the band. Period. I was there for the entire tenure. Eddie was important but DLR was the king of the rock world. Once DLR left, Eddie took more of the spotlight. Everyone who was old enough to remember knows this is true. FOOL.

[Brett]

Yes I'm in LA, we are the rulers of the world here. Thanks for letting me in on the obvious. After 34 years here, I was a little unsure.

Dork at 13, do you think I was running to school to talk to my friends about Eddie's fingering technique after a show? I might have needed to know how to play guitar first of all, and understood anything about it. Stupid ass. I probably said something like, "Wow the show was great, Dave looked cool and was funny, Eddie played cool stuff." And guess what fucker, I was the one buying the albums and watching MTV. You know who MTV's target audience was? Me, my age group. And I'm telling you that to a 13-year old fan, the whole band was cool. If you can't handle that, well then too fucking bad.

I didn't say ALL VH fans were musicians, jesus man. You just make it out to be that anyone who was one was some turd who didn't matter, and couldn't possibly have an opinion on the band that didn't involve sucking Dave's yank. But the stupid whore blowing Dave backstage for some blow....now she matters. :rolleyes:

Again, let me clarify, because you obviously can't read, so I will repeat it for the 200th time. When I saw VH live in 1984, I wasn't a musician, I was a 13-year old pre-teen who liked their music. Yes Dave had the crowd going, and it was as spectacle, but I still didn't go to school next day and go on and on about how great Dave was, as if it was the only thing that mattered. I said the show was cool, the band was cool. It was pretty fucking simple back then. And I was there the whole "tenure" as well, just a little younger than most.

[DLR_EngineRoom]

Originally posted by Bret
I proclaim the Van Halen could have made it without David Lee Roth! Its about Eddie (time)! LOL!

I make much advertising money at my website (www.vhlinks.com)

Please visit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A) I know the real BRETT. This guys a fake. The real Brett's not really a bad guy, I can attest to it.

B) Faking someone else, anyone else's name, is a major wuss thing to do.

[Brett]

Oh please I don't give a shit guys, it makes for some good arguments on here. I haven't had much desire to fight over this dumb band in a long time, so at least it did that. :) I appreciate the support, but you needn't defend me.

[DiamondGirl69]

The only people that defend this twirp are the sheep from the links that post here. I've heard the same rumblings about this loser that he has always said Van Halen would've made it without Dave. Keep living in that dream world moron. I cannot believe the good poeple that run this board have not booted your dumb ass off it yet.

[Brett]

LOL, you've been hearing rumblings. And who the fuck are you? And I care why?

Hey Engine_Room, you're a sheep. Bet you didn't know that.

Poj, this broad is right, time to fucking ban me already. I mean come the fuck on!

[MAX]

Hey Brett,

I haven't seen you this involved in a VH conversation in a looooooong time. That's pretty funny. How were your holidays, good I hope?

Anyway, back to the crowd.

I also saw Halen live in '84 and I initially DID want to go cos of Eddie cos I played guitar a bit. However, after the show I did happen to walk out more of a Dave fan cos I felt he owned the show. My bitterness towards the other three never came into play until they hired Hagar. That's neither here nor there but I didn't walk out saying that Dave was better than the band cos back then I had just gone to see "Van Halen" if that makes any sense? That is STILL the best concert that I've EVER seen in my life and I've seen a lot. :)

[Brett]

I haven't really felt like talking VH in a long time. Morons like TrollGirlBoy above reminded me why.

Dude holidays ain't over yet, don't rush it. :) Yeah they were cool I suppose. Hope all is well over there.

And your comment makes total sense, and is exactly on par with what I said before. Glad someone else can be reasonable. Oh but wait, Lou thinks you're just a kiss ass I'm sorry, you can't possibly have an opinion on this that might agree with me. Nobody had any ill-will towards Ed until Dave left the band, Van Halen fans weren't pro-Dave or pro-Ed, they were just VH fans. The fact that Dave kicked ass at a show, didn't mean fans were walking around saying Eddie sucks. That came in 1986. :)

[DiamondGirl69]

Originally posted by Brett
LOL, you've been hearing rumblings. And who the fuck are you? And I care why?

Hey Engine_Room, you're a sheep. Bet you didn't know that.

Poj, this broad is right, time to fucking ban me already. I mean come the fuck on!

Hey honey, the only rumblings you would feel is the tip of my thigh high boots cracking your balls. It seems you don't get enough attention on that bogus Sammy Hagar web site you run so we have to read your bullshit here knowing you can get away with it.

Check that out, one sheep calling out another sheep. :confused:

[GAR]

I have no problems whatsoever with Sammy Hagar being in Van Halen so long as he doesn't sing.

He's got excellent rhythm, he plays a red guitar and various latin percussion instruments such as the triangle, agogo bells, tambourine and I believe I've even seen pix of him shaking maracas.

I simply do not like his fucking voice, okay. Fuck that stupid troll-ass.

[POJO_Risin]

Originally posted by Brett

Poj, this broad is right, time to fucking ban me already. I mean come the fuck on!

It's about time someone's talking sense here...christ...

now where is that fucking ban button...

Finally...after 5 years...someone sets me straight....

[POJO_Risin]

He's got excellent rhthym????

lmfao...

from one white dude to another...

[Brett]

It took a fucking dopey user with a chick flapping her tits in the air to make you see the light. Who the fuck knew!

[Brett]

Gar, you're a total dick, but you're a funny fucking guy.

[POJO_Risin]

What can I say...I see flapping tits...and it's over...

[GAR]

Originally posted by Brett
Yes Dave had the crowd going, and it was as spectacle, but I still didn't go to school next day and go on and on about how great Dave was, as if it was the only thing that mattered.

Funny, you mention the very same "next-day-at-school" reaction about half the kids returning from US Festival had upon seeing VH live for the very first time.

[Brett]

Well actually I think the '84 show I saw at the Forum was on a weekend, no school the next day. :)

[GAR]

Originally posted by Brett
Gar, you're a total dick, but you're a funny fucking guy.

You're funny too in a different way if you have pics of Hagar shaking maracas on your hard drive.

NO! Don't go running an "undelete" program to try to find 'em for an attached post: I see healing here with you my man.

Welcom to the light! Now go close your site and we'll make you a mod.. till you fuck it up for yourself...

[Brett]

Originally posted by POJO_Risin
What can I say...I see flapping tits...and it's over...

Better than a flapping cock I suppose.

[POJO_Risin]

We dumped Spanish Gay Guy as a mod a long time ago...

[POJO_Risin]

He may have found that post thrilling and wonderful...

[POJO_Risin]

Damn Amanda Beard is hot...

[GAR]

Originally posted by POJO_Risin
He may have found that post thrilling and wonderful...

Ever preach words of wisdom to the homeless? They don't listen unless you feed them first.

Not that I have any AuthoriTEH™ in the matter but you gotta throw him some kinda incentive to shutter his place with boards and For Sale sign the URL: and I tell you, I see healing here occuring Pojo - so lets not pick his scabs and feed them to him just yet.

He's a closet Rothian. Most EVH sheep are, anyways.. admittedly or not

[Tyrone Biggums]

Originally posted by GAR
Ever preach words of wisdom to the homeless? They don't listen unless you feed them first.

Not that I have any AuthoriTEH™ in the matter but you gotta throw him some kinda incentive to shutter his place with boards and For Sale sign the URL: and I tell you, I see healing here occuring Pojo - so lets not pick his scabs and feed them to him just yet.

He's a closet Rothian. Most EVH sheep are, anyways.. admittedly or not

I'M RICK JAMES, BITCH! ONE OF THE BADDEST MOTHERFUCKERS OF ALL TIME! ONE OF THE BEST SINGERS! ONE OF THE BEST LOOKING MOTHERFUCKERS OF ALL TIME!

ENJOY YOURSELF, BITCH!

[David Lee Roth]

Originally posted by Brett
That was really dumb.

Oh and at 31, you knew even less than me about VH in the seventies little boy.

Fuck off homo. We do not want any sycophant here!

[academic punk]

ugh. This is ridiculous.

I absolutely agree Eddie and Alex would never have found such major mainstream success (and the accompanying longevity) without Roth. But it was an absolutely SYMBIOTIC relationship: Dave found a muse within Eddie's virtuosity.

What Dave did with his hands and feet, Eddie expressed with his hands. It made for an absolutely unique one-two punch.

Yes, Dave was the absolute focal point on the 1984 tour. Ever think maybe that had something with him being gone by the next tour? Dave thought he had reached a point where he was bigger than the band, and Eddie I think was just happy to be able start getting his shitty synthesizer pop tunes released to the public.

As Dave himself said in his book, "is it Mick or Keith? I don't know." with CVH, it was a 97-97 deal.

Eddie was ABSOLUTELY EQUAL to Dave as a focal point in CVH. remember "Eruption"? remember Ed winning best guitarist polls for a million years in a row? remember Ed being considered by lots of girls in my high school to be the cute one in the band?

Now without Dave, VH would've been another Journey or Loverboy (or, at best, an exceptional Def Leppard): a pop band with a hot guitarist and a shitty, embarrassing singer, with a bunch of songs that just age BEYOND THE PALE badly.

Brett has expessed he is primarily an EDDIE fan: well, that's cool. Whatever we all think of Ed as a person, hey, apparently Roth thought high enough of Ed's musicianship to be in a band with him.

and, let's face it, if the band were to reconvene tomorrow, we'd all wet our pants and have a huge group high five.

Brett included.

[Brett]

Of course.

[Matt White]

"Dave thought he had reached a point where he was bigger than the band, and Eddie I think was just happy to be able start getting his shitty synthesizer pop tunes released to the public."

No, DAVE saw bigger things for THE BAND. The brothers didn't share his vision. Those drunks can barely speak, let alone ACT.

But yes, lets drop the revisionist history. VAN HALEN was a BAND. The worlds greatest Singer/Frontman & The worlds greatest Guitarist. With a average bass player who sang backup vocals very well, and a above average drummer. All 4 got the spotlight at one time or another. All 4 did interviews (I still laugh when thinking about Mikey putting loose change in his shoes when he finds it on the ground, for good luck!) and all 4 where LOVED by their fans. Funny how THAT has changed!

[VH LINKS SUCKS]

Originally posted by Matt White
"Dave thought he had reached a point where he was bigger than the band, and Eddie I think was just happy to be able start getting his shitty synthesizer pop tunes released to the public."

No, DAVE saw bigger things for THE BAND. The brothers didn't share his vision. Those drunks can barely speak, let alone ACT.

But yes, lets drop the revisionist history. VAN HALEN was a BAND. The worlds greatest Singer/Frontman & The worlds greatest Guitarist. With a average bass player who sang backup vocals very well, and a above average drummer. All 4 got the spotlight at one time or another. All 4 did interviews (I still laugh when thinking about Mikey putting loose change in his shoes when he finds it on the ground, for good luck!) and all 4 where LOVED by their fans. Funny how THAT has changed!

Read my signature. It's a direct quote that basically mirrors this thread.;)

[Brett Norton]

I've had just about enough of this shit!

[Brett]

Originally posted by Matt White
But yes, lets drop the revisionist history. VAN HALEN was a BAND. The worlds greatest Singer/Frontman & The worlds greatest Guitarist. With a average bass player who sang backup vocals very well, and a above average drummer. All 4 got the spotlight at one time or another. All 4 did interviews (I still laugh when thinking about Mikey putting loose change in his shoes when he finds it on the ground, for good luck!) and all 4 where LOVED by their fans. Funny how THAT has changed!

Yes sir.

[MAX]

Brett,

Jump in the Sheepmobile, drive away and I'll cover you!!!! ;)

Cheers too you and the Mrs. Norton feeeerrrr New Years!!!!

:gulp:

[Brett Norton]

Originally posted by MAX
Brett,

Jump in the Sheepmobile, drive away and I'll cover you!!!! ;)

Cheers too you and the Mrs. Norton feeeerrrr New Years!!!!

:gulp:


Ahhh shucks Max, you made me blush.

[MAX]

Originally posted by Brett Norton
Ahhh shucks Max, you made me blush.

Nope, cos I was just trying to make Lou blush. :o

Sincere well wishes go out to the real reciepient.

As for you Ms. Powder Puff,

Go beg for pennies, used enema bags or conDUMBS elswhere..............


Night!!!

[Cathedral]

Ed wouldn't have made it out of his bedroom without Dave, and Ed's mother's insults would have all come true.
I think the old ugly hag actually hated the kid.
And without Dave's in your face attitude we would have never heard of Edward Van Halen.

Come to think of it, I kind of wish i hadn't at this point. it reminds me of just how washed up the toad really is these days.

[bru87tr]

moron that is bret......


has this not been proven ? they made it with sammy. no ?


but the sad ending to that it was never to the level they did with roth. truth!

everyone knows the so called sammy VH reunion was anything but! nobody cared and sales shows it. when and if the roth return to VH happens. you will be so embarrased you ever even posted this thread.

VH would be the biggest selling reunion of all time if they get back together. the only reason it does not happen ? cause eddie does not want to be proven wrong. now STFU and get back to blowing yourself.

[DavidLeeNatra]

Originally posted by academic punk
ugh. This is ridiculous.

I absolutely agree Eddie and Alex would never have found such major mainstream success (and the accompanying longevity) without Roth. But it was an absolutely SYMBIOTIC relationship: Dave found a muse within Eddie's virtuosity.

What Dave did with his hands and feet, Eddie expressed with his hands. It made for an absolutely unique one-two punch.

Yes, Dave was the absolute focal point on the 1984 tour. Ever think maybe that had something with him being gone by the next tour? Dave thought he had reached a point where he was bigger than the band, and Eddie I think was just happy to be able start getting his shitty synthesizer pop tunes released to the public.

As Dave himself said in his book, "is it Mick or Keith? I don't know." with CVH, it was a 97-97 deal.

Eddie was ABSOLUTELY EQUAL to Dave as a focal point in CVH. remember "Eruption"? remember Ed winning best guitarist polls for a million years in a row? remember Ed being considered by lots of girls in my high school to be the cute one in the band?

Now without Dave, VH would've been another Journey or Loverboy (or, at best, an exceptional Def Leppard): a pop band with a hot guitarist and a shitty, embarrassing singer, with a bunch of songs that just age BEYOND THE PALE badly.

Brett has expessed he is primarily an EDDIE fan: well, that's cool. Whatever we all think of Ed as a person, hey, apparently Roth thought high enough of Ed's musicianship to be in a band with him.

and, let's face it, if the band were to reconvene tomorrow, we'd all wet our pants and have a huge group high five.

Brett included.

that's the one million dollar post here...take a big 5 from me, as long as I look for the money...

[DrMaddVibe]

According to Spammy's comments lately...they couldn't make it without him either!

Hell even bassplayer is going to Cabo.


The rats are jumping the ship and all of a sudden that fit Ed threw is making sense. Ed knew Spammy was going to shoot off his mouth, take bassplayer and leave the sisters exposed for what they really are...FRAUDS!

[DavidLeeNatra]

Originally posted by Brett
Nobody had any ill-will towards Ed until Dave left the band, Van Halen fans weren't pro-Dave or pro-Ed, they were just VH fans.

no...I was a dave fan from the first moment I heard the scream from "unchained" and didn't give a shit for who played the guitar for him. I just learned from buying the first album after fair warning that ed was "special" but that was just to make the diamond shine brighter for me...


The fact that Dave kicked ass at a show, didn't mean fans were walking around saying Eddie sucks. That came in 1986. :)

and they were right...

[Brett]

I still think you were in the minority though man. I don't think when most of us heard VH, we said, "Wow that's a great singer, I wonder who the backing band is?" I would bet most (not all) of us said, "What a great fucking band, who are they?"

[DavidLeeNatra]

Originally posted by Brett
I still think you were in the minority though man. I don't think when most of us heard VH, we said, "Wow that's a great singer, I wonder who the backing band is?" I would bet most (not all) of us said, "What a great fucking band, who are they?"

maybe...for me it was all about dave...maybe because the first time I heard them was when I SAW them on TV and dave was so overpowering in his visuality that I was just blown away and didn't realize that there was a backing band...

[Brett]

I will say this, the first time I saw who Van Halen was, I figured Van Halen was the lead singer's name. The old Bill Gazzarri story. I would think if your first introduction to VH was visual, then yeah I can totally see why Dave would have stood out.

[flappo]

i doubt vh coulda made it without roth

it WAS his pa after all

:D

[DavidLeeNatra]

Originally posted by flappo
i doubt vh coulda made it without roth

it WAS his pa after all

:D

good point !!! :D

[VHII]

haha i agree

[VAN HLN]

Why do you guys even bother to argue with sheep from the links?

You'll never change a sheep's opinion on what Van Halen truly represented and will always be remembered for!

Dave, Eddie, Alex, and Mike!

PERIOD!

[GAR]

Dave Roth's point about adding a classical-sounding name to it in a bid to seem like a legitimate music act really worked: when I was told the name was Van Halen the first thing I thougth was: like what, Van Clyburn?

Do they play Tchaikovsky pieces, too? Do they have orchestral arrangements on the other side?

Those were my unforgettable, two first thoughts anyways.

- the name "ROTH" would have taken longer to click, publicly speaking, because it's very common. But it would have worked - and when it did, DLR coulda ditched Ed and got Terry Kilgore for the band before he formed Reddi Kilowatt..

[Brett]

Terry Kilgore!? What you want to hear YFLM again?

[DavidLeeNatra]

Originally posted by Brett
Terry Kilgore!? What you want to hear YFLM again?

bretty baby...this is a fucking GREAT record !!! and I know you will post this quote again:


I still think you were in the minority though man.

[Rikk]

Originally posted by Lou
Oh don't worry, Rikk is such a Brett/Seenbad/VHagar Links asskisser this can't possibly be him.

Thanks Lou. I knew I could count on your support.:)

How's the virginity going?

[Rikk]

Originally posted by guwapo_rocker
They're far to busy sucking your dick Brett!!

Yes, and it's awfully salty these days.

BTW, how's your featured user gig going at CHELLE's these days? That hamster character sure is hilarious. All seven of them over there are very excited at your popularity...among the seven. Are you posting frequently in their Van Hagar tour thread that is the most popular forum there?

How are you enjoying your visit here?

[Rikk]

Originally posted by Brett
I still think you were in the minority though man. I don't think when most of us heard VH, we said, "Wow that's a great singer, I wonder who the backing band is?" I would bet most (not all) of us said, "What a great fucking band, who are they?"

When I first heard Van Halen, I was eight. I didn't give a fuck about the guitarist. I just cared about the singer jumping around in the video. To me, it really was Dave and a backing band. Mind you, it was a very good backing band.

[Rikk]

Originally posted by MAX
Nope, cos I was just trying to make Lou blush. :o

Any woman on Earth could make Lou blush by finally agreeing to have sex with him.

[Rikk]

Originally posted by POJO_Risin
What can I say...I see flapping tits...and it's over...

Actually, if I see tits that are really flapping, I usually assume the girl is a fat chick in hiding and its probably best to stay away. Mind you, sometimes its hard to just put your pants back on and say, "Sorry baby..."

[Rikk]

Originally posted by Brett
Yes Bret with one "T" is me, I really never liked my name having two T's, so I decided that I'd register a username on this particular board with the one, so that I can finally rid myself of this goddamn burden my parents saddled me with. :)

Yes, I can't wait 'til RIK joins this site. Mind you, I don't think I'm as immensely unpopular as you are yet.;)

When RIK joins, I'll know I have truly made it.

[DavidLeeNatra]

Originally posted by Rikk
Yes, I can't wait 'til RIK joins this site.

don't you have enough aliases... ;)

[academic punk]

Originally posted by DavidLeeNatra
that's the one million dollar post here...take a big 5 from me, as long as I look for the money...

Thanks Natra! Tell ya what, let's split the money the same way Classic Halen split the talent: 97% for you, 97% for me.

[Rikk]

Originally posted by DavidLeeNatra
don't you have enough aliases... ;)

I'm aiming for five aliases by next summer. Then I'll be satisfied. My next one will be DavidLeeNaTTra.;)

[guwapo_rocker]

Originally posted by Rikk
Yes, and it's awfully salty these days.

BTW, how's your featured user gig going at CHELLE's these days? That hamster character sure is hilarious. All seven of them over there are very excited at your popularity...among the seven. Are you posting frequently in their Van Hagar tour thread that is the most popular forum there?

How are you enjoying your visit here?

Perhaps you can tell me a little something about the

Hamilton Van Hagar show so I have something to post over there.

I haven't actually posted there for months.

Did you have a good time upstairs at your Mom's for Christmas??

[DavidLeeNatra]

Originally posted by academic punk
Thanks Natra! Tell ya what, let's split the money the same way Classic Halen split the talent: 97% for you, 97% for me.

here we go :bottle:

[Rikk]

Originally posted by guwapo_rocker
I haven't actually posted there for months.

So you're claiming you haven't posted there for months but you're the featured user of the month at a site that features VAN HAGAR? How does that work?:p Did they also write the shitty and unfunny article quoted to you there?

[Nickdfresh]

Okay, time for the thread to get back on track.

Do I honestly love and respect Eddie's playing? Abb-Zuh-fucking-lutely! He broke much ground before he was blanded down by Van Hagar's "lowering the bar."

But the first time I recollect hearing Van Halen, it was "Pretty Woman" blaring on the radio when I was eleven, and it was Dave's voice and 'car-asthma' that sold me on it! There was no wiz-bang guitar solo on that one! It was the spontaneity of turning a Roy Orbison classic into something new and a little different.

I have no doubt realistically that Ed would have had some success without Roth, but it would have sort of been more like a Mountain or Ted Nugent kind of cult status than what we know today to be Classic Van Halen or Van Hagar. Dave, largely single-handedly, marketed this band during the era of disco and the era of nauseating mello AM radio. He grabbed attention, and forced people to hold it long enough to notice Ed!

[Brett]

I agree 100% with that. I think Ed would have done more than Ted Nugent though, he's just a better player and far greater musician than Ted.

[Rikk]

Yes, but one thing Ted had that Ed didn't was some form of charisma. In the late 70s (not that I remember, I was a baby), Ted's image was half the show...swinging from a rope, firing his crossbow at a flaming target. Ed has absolutely zero charisma as a performer. The material would have been pretty pedestrian with someone else singing (IMO). It could have been okay, but it possibly could have ended up sounding like JOURNEY if anyone other than Roth had been on it. Hell, listen to VAN HAGAR. That's the band suddenly without Roth and having no problem sounding like a lot of other bands on the radio.

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by Rikk
Yes, but one thing Ted had that Ed didn't was some form of charisma. In the late 70s (not that I remember, I was a baby), Ted's image was half the show...swinging from a rope, firing his crossbow at a flaming target. Ed has absolutely zero charisma as a performer. The material would have been pretty pedestrian with someone else singing (IMO). It could have been okay, but it possibly could have ended up sounding like JOURNEY if anyone other than Roth had been on it. Hell, listen to VAN HAGAR. That's the band suddenly without Roth and having no problem sounding like a lot of other bands on the radio.

Agreed, but Ed's shtick sold well as a shy, quiet guy, that the girls wanted to be with. Plus, as quiet as he was, he was amazingly the opposite when he played. Ted was loud on and off stage. Too much screamin'! lol I like Ted, but Ed kicks his ass, then and now. If that's what this thread is about? :D

[Rikk]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
Agreed, but Ed's shtick sold well as a shy, quiet guy, that the girls wanted to be with. Plus, as quiet as he was, he was amazingly the opposite when he played. Ted was loud on and off stage. Too much screamin'! lol I like Ted, but Ed kicks his ass, then and now. If that's what this thread is about? :D

LOL. Hard to say what this thread is about anymore.

The thing is, Ed only got noticed as the shy, quiet guy because he was standing next to Roth. Without a brilliant showman like Roth, he only would have been noticed because of his playing. I do think the band would have been inevitably signed. But I also think they would have been a two or three album band with a few limited hits but none of the impact. That said, Roth also was responsible for pulling them out of the backyards and into the clubs. Maybe they would have stayed there without him.

[Nickdfresh]

Ed needs a persona to reflect off of to find one of his own! Either that or he needs intense anger to get his ass moving.

He's like the annoying friend that can't talk to anyone else at a party, so he hangs out and annoys his one, and only, friend!

His introversion, which he has admitted to in several interviews, has more than anything else contributed to his alcoholism.

[guwapo_rocker]

Originally posted by Rikk
So you're claiming you haven't posted there for months but you're the featured user of the month at a site that features VAN HAGAR? How does that work?:p Did they also write the shitty and unfunny article quoted to you there?

I emailed it to them idiot after they asked for it.

In fact if you have seen it, you have been there more recently than

me.:p

[guwapo_rocker]

Originally posted by Rikk
So you're claiming you haven't posted there for months but you're the featured user of the month at a site that features VAN HAGAR? How does that work?:p Did they also write the shitty and unfunny article quoted to you there?

You of all people shouldn't be talking about posting at a Hagar site

fatty. How many posts have you made at the links again??:rolleyes:

[Rikk]

Originally posted by guwapo_rocker
I emailed it to them idiot after they asked for it.

In fact if you have seen it, you have been there more recently than

me.:p

No, my "friend", a friend of mine here PM'd me and told me about it, with a link and an LOL. You're so pathetic. It's all there for anyone to see. You don't think they'd make you a featured user unless you were a prominent member of the community, would you?

[guwapo_rocker]

Originally posted by Rikk
No, my "friend", a friend of mine here PM'd me and told me about it, with a link and an LOL. You're so pathetic. It's all there for anyone to see. You don't think they'd make you a featured user unless you were a prominent member of the community, would you?

Fuck you are so full of shit you insecure little fat man!

Lies lies lies.:rolleyes:

[Rikk]

Originally posted by guwapo_rocker
You of all people shouldn't be talking about posting at a Hagar site

fatty. How many posts have you made at the links again??:rolleyes:

Again, my "friend", I can't agree with the content at the Links, idiot. That's why I post here. Of course, it's not all the mods' fault that Sam was in the band recently (and probably isn't), but there are too many morons there to post now.

Also, idiot, do you even remember 2000-2001 when pretty much 80% of the posters there were pretty much Davers? Of course you don't. I got in trouble enough for attacking Ched Heads there. In fact, I was always getting told off for it. Ask your "enemy", Brett.

You get your ass handed to you on a platter by so many people at this site, you run off to CHELLE's Van Hagar site and play out your little hamster character, even bitching about what this place has turned into, and then when our mutual "friend" comes back, you return and act all pro-Roth again? Sure.

[Rikk]

Originally posted by guwapo_rocker
Fuck you are so full of shit you insecure little fat man!

Lies lies lies.:rolleyes:

Can we be best friends? Can you wear my friendship ring?

[guwapo_rocker]

Shut the fuck up you sack of shit.

Everything you type is complete bullshit and more and

more people are noticing.

Lol you are such a fucking fraud.

[Rikk]

Originally posted by guwapo_rocker
Everything you type is complete bullshit and more and

more people are noticing.

Yes yes. Pardon me while I give a gigantic flying fuck and then take a gigantic dump in your honor, featured VAN HAGAR user.:)

Sometimes I ponder on how we became such good friends. I think to myself, Rikk, life is full of good friends. But GUWAPO is the best of them. Hold on to this friendship and remember that he is true, fair and wise.:)

[guwapo_rocker]

Originally posted by Rikk
you run off to CHELLE's Van Hagar site and play out your little hamster character, even bitching about what this place has turned into, and then when our mutual "friend" comes back, you return and act all pro-Roth again? Sure.

Again cunt more fucking lies!!???!!!

I haven't been posting there and wouldn't slag the Army.

That is an outright fucking lie fatty.:rolleyes:

[Rikk]

Originally posted by guwapo_rocker
Again cunt more fucking lies!!???!!!

I haven't been posting there and wouldn't slag the Army.

That is an outright fucking lie fatty.:rolleyes:

No it isn't a lie. I love this word "lie". You use this every time you have an issue with somebody, bud. This game with you is so utterly boring.

You want to talk lie? You're the fucking FEATURED USER, but you haven't been posting there?

I think it's beyond hypocritical to attack any Links posters while you're the featured user at a site that loves VAN HAGAR.

[guwapo_rocker]

And now you play all nicey nice with BT after trying to get him in shit with Pojo??

You're a fucking creep!!

[Big Troubles]

I dont want to get involved, and frankly I hate taking sides, but I have to say this. Guwapo is one ass kicking Roth Fan. Gauranteed. I dont know anything about Chelle's place or whats going on there, but I do know a Roth fan, and both you guys are. Lets end this bullshit. Shall we? Or at least have a Roth trivia contest to prove who the "bigger" Roth fan is! :D

[guwapo_rocker]

Originally posted by Rikk
No it isn't a lie. I love this word "lie". You use this every time you have an issue with somebody, bud. This game with you is so utterly boring.

You want to talk lie? You're the fucking FEATURED USER, but you haven't been posting there?

I think it's beyond hypocritical to attack any Links posters while you're the featured user at a site that loves VAN HAGAR.

They asked me to email them that and I did!!

Show me the posts.....show mw where I slag the army!!

[Rikk]

Originally posted by guwapo_rocker
And now you play all nicey nice with BT after trying to get him in shit with Pojo??

You're a fucking creep!!

LOL. BT is fine in my book.:) Somebody may have lied about his part in something.

What's amusing is you really have not an ounce of an idea what's been going on at this site for months. I do know you've been PMing certain people furiously to try and convince 'em that MAX and I are idiots. I think it's sad. You're already so washed up I don't need to PM people about you.

Keep trying to bring me down, bub. You've been trying for four months. And it ain't working. But I sure as hell know how many friends you've lost over this whole ordeal. You know how many I lost? One. You. And at this point, I can see what a blessing that was.

[Rikk]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
I dont want to get involved, and frankly I hate taking sides, but I have to say this. Guwapo is one ass kicking Roth Fan. Gauranteed. I dont know anything about Chelle's place or whats going on there, but I do know a Roth fan, and both you guys are. Lets end this bullshit. Shall we? Or at least have a Roth trivia contest to prove who the "bigger" Roth fan is! :D

LOL. I'll have a trivia contest any day. But this rodent started with me. I'm not having a "fight" with GUWAPO. I've just pissed on his grave a few times. And it's amusing.:D

[guwapo_rocker]

Originally posted by Rikk
LOL. BT is fine in my book.:) Somebody may have lied about his part in something.

What's amusing is you really have not an ounce of an idea what's been going on at this site for months. I do know you've been PMing certain people furiously to try and convince 'em that MAX and I are idiots. I think it's sad. You're already so washed up I don't need to PM people about you.

Keep trying to bring me down, bub. You've been trying for four months. And it ain't working. But I sure as hell know how many friends you've lost over this whole ordeal. You know how many I lost? One. You. And at this point, I can see what a blessing that was.


Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.....

Go fuck yourself idiot!!:rolleyes:

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by guwapo_rocker
And now you play all nicey nice with BT after trying to get him in shit with Pojo??

You're a fucking creep!!

For the record: I have done nothing, nor said anything to bash any webmaster at this site. I have nothing but respect for BS1, Pojo, Panamark, Viking, AlinChainz, Ally, Sarge (of course), Hitch and even my little vagina discharge Flappo. If someone, anyone has proof of me saying shit to any of the above, please post for all to see. When I have a prob with someone, I confront. I don't hide. That's on account of the size of my balls, I reckon. :D

[Rikk]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
For the record: I have done nothing, nor said anything to bash any webmaster at this site. I have nothing but respect for BS1, Pojo, Panamark, Viking, AlinChainz, Ally, Sarge (of course), Hitch and even my little vagina discharge Flappo. If someone, anyone has proff of me saying shit to any of the above, please post for all to see. When I have a prob with someone, I confront. I don't hide. That's on account of the size of my balls, I reckon. :D

No worries. GUWAPO is trying to make it seem like there's something else going on here. But dude is, as I said before, out to lunch. I think someone lied about your part in certain things.

You and I already talked. There is no conversation to be had with that fraud rodent.

[Big Troubles]

I wish I knew the whole story... Sort of...? It seems all too silly to be fighting over someone or something irrelevant. No? Guwapo, you will always be my bud. Damn sure of that. But Im starting new, and Im trying my best to keep peace with all. Speaking of irrelevant, where the fuck is Brett? :D

[guwapo_rocker]

No problem BT, I just know Rikk tried to bring us both down by

lying.

[Rikk]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
I wish I knew the whole story... Sort of...? It seems all too silly to be fighting over someone or something irrelevant. No? Guwapo, you will always be my bud. Damn sure of that. But Im starting new, and Im trying my best to keep peace with all. Speaking of irrelevant, where the fuck is Brett? :D

I basically have problems with few people here. There are a few people I think are complete and utter losers. But big deal. My opinion is my opinion. No need to name them. Who cares? I don't even care, really. Of course, on those occasions these people post something moronic or something that displays their complete lack of comprehension concerning their own fake power, then I post something because...hey...I just don't give a fuck.

GUWAPO is definitely the most two-sided piece of shit I know of at this site in my dealings with people. But there are a few people that are very cool with him, and again, who cares what I think? Seriously, it's no big deal. I don't even need to prove anything to the people I give a shit about at this site. They all have seen it for themselves for months.

BT, I have no problems with you. Then again, I like FLAPPO too. as for that other shit, that whole incident is a few months old now. GUWAPO tried what he did with his butt-buddy, and they both got pretty much run out of this site in shame. In the end, I don't care. I have pretty much almost the same pals as I did before. In fact, I know a little more concerning who stands where. And that's good.

As for Brett, well, I fought with him a bit at the Links. In fact, I had a big fight with him at one point. And I don't think he's always been right in his fight with people. But I damn well I know that I personally like him. And I think he's been a good poster at this site, throwing aside the Links shit. And also, he's controversial. And frankly, I like anything at this site that's controversial. It's good for numbers and good for conversations. Brett is not always right. But even he knows that. But if anyone actually thinks he's a Ched Head that loves to bitch about Roth, then they already missed out on one of Sun Tzu's most important rules: know your enemy inside and out.

[Rikk]

Originally posted by guwapo_rocker
No problem BT, I just know Rikk tried to bring us both down by

lying.

No, GUWAPO, you've seen the same conversation. But I forgot that you can't read. Changed your signature yet, bub? Either someone was lying about you or you are lying right now. One of the two is true. And you know it. But are you ever going to admit it?

[Rikk]

I'm still waiting for LOU to post. I saw you PMing someone, GUWAPO, and now he's suddenly in here. This is going to be fun!

[guwapo_rocker]

Originally posted by Rikk
and they both got pretty much run out of this site in shame.

LMFAO yeah okay fatty hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

[Big Troubles]

I really dont mind Brett either. Most times I just find him arrogant and quick to point out the mistakes of others instead of having a normal convo or debate. I also know he's neither a fan of any era (his words not mine) based on how much time has passed on waiting or not waiting for a reunion. Im sure I'll be corrected by him in no time on this post... lol As for Lou, when i was mod we kept apart from each others postings. No clicking in the convo's. The only times I debated with him was over flac files and mp3's. Elvis and I are fine with each other, I think? I'd slant him once in awhile on his 2 word posts to get his post count up. :D

[Rikk]

ELVIS is awesome. Always thought that dude was hilarious and a great poster. I don't agree with him on every issue, but that's what makes for great conversation.

[Big Troubles]

he's mostly hiding in the front lines. ;) sometimes, there is just nothing VH left to talk about...

[Rikk]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
he's mostly hiding in the front lines. ;) sometimes, there is just nothing VH left to talk about...

VH is dead. I just hope Roth makes a good new album. Of course I want him back in VH, but VH doesn't seem to be shit right now.

Hell, most people don't give a fuck about these "wars" here. That's what I find hilarious. Certain pinheads really think that every poster at this site is waiting with baited breath for the next super attack post from one of the two sides in these wars, and the truth is, it's a little sideshow that most people don't get personally involved with. "People are starting to see this...", etc. People don't give a fuck. Some people really think of themselves as stars here, fighting Caesar's Palace on Pay-Per-View. You fight...I'll be Don King and own your ass.:D

[Parnelly]

I cant believe that someone would make a thread so pointless and lame. No one on this site should care if Van Halen "Could Have" made it without DLR. Its pointless useless and completely ignorant. This thread is classless and also disrespectful. DLR fans dont care about would have's could have's should have's we care about what is and what will never be. So take your shitty lame ass thread and fuck right off you cheesy no good wannabe Van Halen fan piece of no good shit. FUCK!

Dave Or The Grave Mother Fucker. Yes You.

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by Parnelly
I cant believe that someone would make a thread so pointless and lame. No one on this site should care if Van Halen "Could Have" made it without DLR. Its pointless useless and completely ignorant. This thread is classless and also disrespectful. DLR fans dont care about would have's could have's should have's we care about what is and what will never be. So take your shitty lame ass thread and fuck right off you cheesy no good wannabe Van Halen fan piece of no good shit. FUCK!

Dave Or The Grave Mother Fucker. Yes You.

I think the thread is alright. There are better ones, but it's still something dave to talk about. Parnelly, what thread have you started lately that was VH or Dave related? I agree there is nothing more to VH past 1984 except a brief cameo in 96, but really, how long can we talk EMT and charity shows?

[Big Troubles]

"it's obv. nightcreeper is a faggoty hagar fan , he gets all his t-shirts from walmart and then sends them to sammy to wipe his cock on"

LMAO! Thanks Flappo. Im gonna be laughing for the rest of the eve now. :D

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
he's mostly hiding in the front lines. ;) sometimes, there is just nothing VH left to talk about...

Actually, he hasn't been there much lately. In fact, I went to put milk on my cereal this morning and saw this...


HAVE YOU SEEN ME?
http://www.punks.fsbusiness.co.uk/music/media/Elvis.JPG
Born: January 8, 1935, Tupelo, Mississippi
Died: August 16, 1977, Memphis, Tennessee
Height: 6'0"
Weight at birth: 5 pounds
Weight at peak of career: 165 pounds
Weight at death: About 260 pounds
Shoe size: 11D
Shirt size: Neck 15 1/2-16

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Motto: TCB (Taking Care of Business)
Church: First Assembly Church of God in Memphis
Favorite toothpaste: Colgate
Favorite after-shave: Brut
Favorite drink: Pepsi Cola
Favorite foods: Peanut butter, mashed potatoes, burned bacon, grape jelly, cheeseburgers, pork chops, sauerkraut
Eating capacity: In his 20s, Elvis told Country Song Roundup Magazine he could polish off eight deluxe cheeseburgers, two bacon-lettuce-and-tomato sandwiches and three milkshakes in a single sitting.

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Favorite hobbies: Go-carting, karate, numerology, scientology, reading, gospel singing, touch football
Habits he didn't have: Elvis didn't drink, smoke or use illegal drugs
Favorite board games: Yahtzee, Monopoly
Favorite collectible: Official badges. He had police badges from almost every city he sang in and a federal narcotics badge from President Richard M. Nixon.
Second favorite collectible: Guns. There were nearly 40 weapons of various kinds in the Presley arsenal, including M-16s and other rifles, automatic pistols, derringers and a Thompson submachine gun.


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[Parnelly]

Woah sorry there toast face. I didnt mean to raise the hostility in the thread but i figure what the fuck. People like you come right out of the wood works as soon i post. Whatever man.

Dave Or The Grave.

RIGHT NOW: BigTroubles is sittin around with a bottle of cabo and his ou812 album.

[Big Troubles]

Out of the wood works? LMAO! You started 7 threads total. :D And your little stab about me drinking Cabo and listening to 0u812 is way off fruitty. I drink shots of Fireball Whiskey.

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Actually, he hasn't been there much lately. In fact, I went to put milk on my cereal this morning and saw this...


:D

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by Parnelly
People like you come right out of the wood works as soon i post.

People like me? What cause Im black? You fucking rascist you. And Umm... "as soon as you post"???? lol You are not that important. Trust me.


Psst...















between you and me....Everyone thinks.....

[Parnelly]

Hey Bigtroubles how do you get your hair poofy like that?
Must be the Red Rocker Shampoo and Conditioner.

DLR RULES!!!!

RIGHT NOW: Big Troubles and Eric Estrada are sittin around with bolttle of cabo and listening to ou812.

[Rikk]

http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/images/thalia.jpg

[lms2]

Christmas is over.... back to business as usual.

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by Parnelly
Hey Bigtroubles how do you get your hair poofy like that?
Must be the Red Rocker Shampoo and Conditioner.

DLR RULES!!!!

RIGHT NOW: Big Troubles and Eric Estrada are sittin around with bolttle of cabo and listening to ou812.

:rolleyes: Zzzzzzz.

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by lms2
Christmas is over.... back to business as usual.

:D How is lms2 doing? Good holiday? Better New Years coming up? Would love to have you over for a few drinks. :D

[Big Troubles]

I think you are ONLY, what? 6 hours of driving away? lol

[Parnelly]

Im so racist and you post descriminating pictures. I think they call that an oxy moron. Fuckin idiot. Get more pictures waste more time on me. You loser.

DLR FUCK.

RIGHT NOW: I dont want to even get into it about troubles, ou812, cabo, or any other bullshit that goes along with being a sammy fan.

[lms2]

Well thank you BT, thats very nice... but a hell of a drive!

Back on topic... I was introduced to Van Halen by a friend/guitarist who idolized Ed and thought Dave was quite gay... but there is no disputing the fact that Dave is the reason Van Halen ever became a household name.

Whether or not Van Halen could have made it with Dave is irrelevant. the simple fact is that they made it with Dave, in a very big way.

My opinion is that they blew everything they had made with Dave by joining forces with Hagar.

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by Parnelly
Im so racist and you post descriminating pictures. I think they call that an oxy moron. Fuckin idiot. Get more pictures waste more time on me. You loser.

DLR FUCK.

RIGHT NOW: I dont want to even get into it about troubles, ou812, cabo, or any other bullshit that goes along with being a sammy fan.

Right now: Parnelly is stealing the tag line of one great Mezro.

Right now: Parnelly is thinking about wiping the shit out of the back of his pants and smelling his fingers.

Right now: Parnelly is the gayest fuckin' name I think Ive ever heard.

Right Now(but more likely next year): Parnelly's balls have dropped.

Right now: Parnelly wishes he didn't start fucking with me.

Jesus Christ junior, if you are insistant on picking on a sheep, why dont you at least find a sheep to pick on???

[lms2]

6 hours... give or take a day or two. :D

[Parnelly]

Look son you started with me. Im just going with it homes. Why dont you settle the fuck down. And talk about stealing a tag line you stole my right now thing so fuck you.

DLR thats it FUCK.

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by lms2
Well thank you BT, thats very nice... but a hell of a drive!

Back on topic... I was introduced to Van Halen by a friend/guitarist who idolized Ed and thought Dave was quite gay... but there is no disputing the fact that Dave is the reason Van Halen ever became a household name.

Whether or not Van Halen could have made it with Dave is irrelevant. the simple fact is that they made it with Dave, in a very big way.

My opinion is that they blew everything they had made with Dave by joining forces with Hagar.

Good thought. I think there is ALWAYS a "never say never" thought when it comes to a real reunion. CVH stood and still does stand the test of time. 9/10, if your radio is on, and a VH song comes on. Which one is likely played? One of the 3 new ones, to help sell their latest Best of? Or perhaps a classic? :D Radio stations NEED listeners. Thats why they choose CVH. Simple as that.

[lms2]

I think you mean Holmes, not homes...

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by Parnelly
Look son you started with me. Im just going with it homes. Why dont you settle the fuck down. And talk about stealing a tag line you stole my right now thing so fuck you.

DLR thats it FUCK.

? well, you are getting close to making sense. There's hope for ya. Homes? Please explain..."Homes" to me.

[Parnelly]

One simple explanation - Fuck you homes.

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by lms2
6 hours... give or take a day or two. :D

wow, that is a far drive. But damn well worth it! :D I dont care who's in my livin' room, come midnite, Im dawning my spongebob boxers I got for Xmas. :D

[Parnelly]

That sounds like something a mature adult would do.

[lms2]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
wow, that is a far drive. But damn well worth it! :D I dont care who's in my livin' room, come midnite, Im dawning my spongebob boxers I got for Xmas. :D

Shame im gonna have to miss that. You could always post pictures. :D

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by Parnelly
One simple explanation - Fuck you homes.

:lol: What has a home ever done to you? ;) and if that is the simple explanation, Id hate to read your full length one.

[Parnelly]

Well at least i dont have to use some lame picture to express how im feeling. You fuckin chachi.

Dave or the Grave!

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by lms2
Shame im gonna have to miss that. You could always post pictures. :D

I will. In fact, I may have to pull out the video cam. :guzzle:

[Big Troubles]

you having a celebration tommorow?

[Parnelly]

The roth army really cares to see pictures from you. If they are anything like these lame ones good luck scruntose.

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by Parnelly
Well at least i dont have to use some lame picture to express how im feeling. You fuckin chachi.

Dave or the Grave!

Im guessing you are looking for attention. So heres what Im gonna do.

[Big Troubles]

so where in Ontario are ya from Parsmelly?

[Big Troubles]

I know I know.... You "can't" or "wont" say... :tool:

[Parnelly]

What would that matter. Do you have evil plans abrew?

[Parnelly]

And if i wanted you to know dont you think i would have it on a certain information page of myself. Fuckin chachi.

[lms2]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
you having a celebration tommorow?

Not really.

Its just another day, only with lots more cops out around 1:00 a.m.

[Big Troubles]

Not at all. In fact I was thinking about going south to see my good friend guwapo and thought how nice it would be to stop in and say hello to a fellow Roth Army bud. :D

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by lms2
Not really.

Its just another day, only with lots more cops out around 1:00 a.m.

no drinking and driving. You are not working are ya?

[Parnelly]

Well wouldnt that be nice. I could brew up a pot of tea for us and we can sit down and chat about Dave and times gone past. Good idea.

[Parnelly]

Certain people had me mistaken for this guwapo.

[Big Troubles]

Well, just in case your in my area. Please look me up. :D Im in North Bay assbreath...Oops, I mean Parsmelly. :D BTW, is Just like Paradise your fav Dave song?

[lms2]

Yep, Im working, we get off a whole hour early. :D

[Rikk]

Originally posted by Parnelly
Certain people had me mistaken for this guwapo.

LOL. Now that must have sucked.:p

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by Parnelly
Certain people had me mistaken for this guwapo.

No... He would be the fella over the age of 18. :D

[Parnelly]

No man actually that Guwapo dood is pretty hard core. Seemed to really have something against you rikk.

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by lms2
Yep, Im working, we get off a whole hour early. :D

a whole hour eh? Poor girl. Ive been off for a few days now, and then a few more. R and R for sure. Happy new Years to ya, if I dont see you on tommorow.

[Rikk]

Originally posted by Parnelly
No man actually that Guwapo dood is pretty hard core. Seemed to really have something against you rikk.

I know. He's very envious of straight people.

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by Parnelly
No man actually that Guwapo dood is pretty hard core. Seemed to really have something against you rikk. :rolleyes:

this is going places....baby hang on tight...

[Parnelly]

I thought you said he was your buddy. Everybody knows what a buddy is. You friggin chachi.

[lms2]

Happy New Years to you as well Big Troubles. I will be waiting on that video.

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by Parnelly
I thought you said he was your buddy. Everybody knows what a buddy is. You friggin chachi.

:confused:

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by lms2
Happy New Years to you as well Big Troubles. I will be waiting on that video.

:D

[lms2]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
:rolleyes:

this is going places....baby hang on tight...

yeah... nowhere, fast!

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by lms2
yeah... nowhere, fast!

no shit eh? Why is it that the newbies always have to try to make themselves famous right away? Why cant they earn their stripes the old fashion way. Hell, even I made sense when I joined. I scrapped with Hitch, Flappo and John Ashcroft, but it was far more entertaining than "Chachi" and "Holmes". :monkey:

[lms2]

Don't you mean homes?

[Big Troubles]

Oh well. Have a good night Ims2 and have a great New years!!!!

xoxo!

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by lms2
Don't you mean homes?

;) Oh yeah that's right. lol

[lms2]

Good night. You too.

[Brett]

Originally posted by guwapo_rocker
Again cunt more fucking lies!!???!!!

I haven't been posting there and wouldn't slag the Army.

That is an outright fucking lie fatty.:rolleyes:

Dork, your fucking stupid ass rat alias is the featured member at that site. You're a fucking retard for even doing that, let alone doing that there.

[Rikk]

No shit. I mean, talk about lying with shit staring at you right in the face. This guy has some pretty big balls and a tiny dick to be talking about frauds.

[diamondsgirl]

I don't think that VH would have gotten off the ground without Dave. He was the driving force of the band, especially in the early days. I am sure Ed would have been in a band, but I don't think it would be anything like VH.