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  • conyo
    Groupie
    • Aug 2004
    • 58

    My New Years Review (long Post)

    Alright folks....This is a long. long post. Please forgive me.

    I been a DLR/CVH fan for twenty years and I've seen Dave 5 times in the past. So heres the review for the New Years Show.

    Got to Universal right on time and landed about fourth row stage right, right in front of Toshi and next to the one loud ass speaker. My ears are still ringing. The band plays the overture and out pops our hero. Wearing a long sleeve buttin down and electric blue, quilted spandex pants. Dave was twirling the microphone like he was some kind of gunslinger. Bad Ass. Little movement, but bad ass. I kinda was disturbed because his pants were so tight I saw the outline of his schwartz (head and shaft) on the pants. If I was into that that would be one thing, but dude....gross. Plus his is 50. Dave looked more like Neil Diamond, than Diamond Dave. Dave needs a major makeover a'la Vince Neil. He needs to update the color (a little too fake brown looking.) Dave had a little pot belly and looked....stocky. Not the rail thin bad ass, with the 6 pack and the obliques of 82, more like.....Neil Diamond. Sorry. His kicks are done. He was going to kick, so he raised his knee and then motioned "forget it." I know. he's 50. At least he had the good sense not to take off his shirt. I've heard the boots for the Japan, Tacoma and Stubbs Barbeque. I feel like I know Dave's show as good as he does, banter, phrasing and song choice. Nothing changed.

    "look at all the people here tonight!"
    "The hell with Disney World, this is the happiest place on earth."
    The whole Jack Daniels thing with the girl on the front row.
    "Make's me wanna reach down between your legs."
    "Play you white mother fucker"
    "This is the pledge of alligiance...no it's the national anthem."
    etc

    I literally freaked the people around me when I was singing and saying the banter along with David. The set list was almost exactly the same, there were some changes for the fireworks, but almost identical. Dave need to reanalyze and rehearse off stage. I get the feeling that these guys rehearse on stage, since they tour so sporadically, hence why the setlist is the same. There are a ton a great openers to start the show than do have to be HFT. "I'm The One" "Unchained" "On Fire" "Romeo Delight" For the first time in years he's got the band to do it. Brian and Ray have the tone solid. Ray is the drummer AVH was 15 years ago. Awesome. Note to Dave, chuck Shoo Bop and even worse chuck Eruption. It makes it seem like a EVH tribute band. Not cool. C'mon Dave you're better than that. Another thing my friend who went to see the Sam and Dave tour with me had a great observation. Daves pacing of the show then and now is the same..relentless. No slow songs. (like Little Dreamer, Women and Children First.) You leave the show punch drunk. Not stoked like I did in Eat Em and Smile. Dave's show has become very formulaic. Even the jam in between YRGM and after SGMAD really don't change from city to city. It's great, but the same I've heard on tape. Change the encore. Please put Jump earlier and end it with You Really got Me or Everybody wants Some. Anything. You look tired of singing it. Which leads me to Dave's voice. The mother fucker can sing. He's still got it. He may not hit those high, high notes...but he's 50. Sammy can't either. Here is the thing, for the first time ever I am standing close enough to look in Dave's eyes. I realize a couple of things: 1-I am standing in front of an pop culture icon and a legend. This guy will eventually end up in the RRHOF. This guy is 80's rock personified and the keeper of the Rock and Roll flame. Like he said on the radio interview in Orlando. He is married an idea. An idea of rock and roll. 2-This guy cannot stop smiling. I don't trust people who don't stop smiling. They don't feel genuine. When I looked into his eyes, I still cannot do not know whether that smile is from the heart or is it just a costume piece. The impression I got is that he is tired. He's been working it and working it and working it for so many years for such limited results. It has to be dishearting to go out on New Years Eve in front of about 1,000 people, compared to 40,000-100,000 people in his high point. It's got to break his heart. I almost see that Dave's love affair is gone from it. He is holding on for that one last moment of glory (which is probably with VH) so he can ride off into the airbriushed sunset on a high note rhinocerus. He doesn't do it for the fans, he does it for the glory and himself. If he did for us, he'd have a great website, record great albums (Sorry Diamond Dave ain't one) and do things with us in mind. He does it for that last great adventure. The comeback. I looked into his eyes and I feel like he's lost his way and he frankly can't find the way out. When he sang Gigalo it seemed, he sang "I Ain't got Nobody!" he meant it. That song affected me in the concert, because I am going through similar things right now. (I am in the middle of a nasty divorce and feel alone and not appreciated.) When I looked at him I felt the same way. Not like my teenage hero, but as a human. Now if he did that more and put it into the music, maybe he'd find the way. DAve just be yourself. God bless you and thank you David Lee. God bless ya'

    Alex
    Last edited by conyo; 01-04-2005, 02:23 AM.
  • Sarge's Little Helper
    Commando
    • Mar 2003
    • 1322

    #2
    Alright folks....This is a long. long post. Please forgive me.

    I been a DLR/CVH fan for twenty years and I've seen Dave 5 times in the past. So heres the review for the New Years Show.

    Got to Universal right on time and landed about fourth row stage right, right in front of Toshi and next to the one loud ass speaker. My ears are still ringing. The band plays the overture and out pops our hero. Wearing a long sleeve buttin down and electric blue, quilted spandex pants. Dave was twirling the microphone like he was some kind of gunslinger. Bad Ass. Little movement, but bad ass. I kinda was disturbed because his pants were so tight I saw the outline of his schwartz (head and shaft) on the pants. If I was into that that would be one thing, but dude....gross. Plus his is 50. Dave looked more like Neil Diamond, than Diamond Dave. Dave needs a major makeover a'la Vince Neil. He needs to update the color (a little too fake brown looking.) Dave had a little pot belly and looked....stocky. Not the rail thin bad ass, with the 6 pack and the obliques of 82, more like.....Neil Diamond. Sorry. His kicks are done. He was going to kick, so he raised his knee and then motioned "forget it." I know. he's 50. At least he had the good sense not to take off his shirt. I've heard the boots for the Japan, Tacoma and Stubbs Barbeque. I feel like I know Dave's show as good as he does, banter, phrasing and song choice. Nothing changed.

    "The hell with Disney World, this is the happiest place on earth."
    The whole Jack Daniels thing with the girl on the front row.
    "Make's me wanna reach down between your legs."
    "This is the pledge of alligiance...no it's the national anthem."
    etc

    I literally freaked the people around me when I was singing and saying the banter along with David. The set list was almost exactly the same, there were some changes for the fireworks, but almost identical. Dave need to reanalyze and rehearse off stage. I get the feeling that these guys rehearse on stage, since they tour so sporadically, hence why the setlist is the same. There are a ton a great openers to start the show than do have to be HFT. "I'm The One" "Unchained" "On Fire" "Romeo Delight" For the first time in years he's got the band to do it. Brian and Ray have the tone solid. Ray is the drummer AVH was 15 years ago. Awesome. Note to Dave, chuck Shoo Bop and even worse chuck Eruption. It makes it seem like a EVH tribute band. Not cool. C'mon Dave you're better than that. Another thing my friend who went to see the Sam and Dave tour with me had a great observation. Daves pacing of the show then and now is the same..relentless. No slow songs. (like Little Dreamer, Women and Children First.) You leave the show punch drunk. Not stoked like I did in Eat Em and Smile. Dave's show has become very formulaic. Even the jam in between YRGM and after SGMAD really don't change from city to city. It's great, but the same I've heard on tape. Change the encore. Please put Jump earlier and end it with You Really got Me or Everybody wants Some. Anything. You look tired of singing it. Which leads me to Dave's voice. The mother fucker can sing. He's still got it. He may not hit those high, high notes...but he's 50. Sammy can't either. Here is the thing, for the first time ever I am standing close enough to look in Dave's eyes. I realize a couple of things: 1-I am standing in front of an pop culture icon and a legend. This guy will eventually end up in the RRHOF. This guy is 80's rock personified and the keeper of the Rock and Roll flame. Like he said on the radio interview in Orlando. He is married an idea. An idea of rock and roll. 2-This guy cannot stop smiling. I don't trust people who don't stop smiling. They don't feel genuine. When I looked into his eyes, I still cannot do not know whether that smile is from the heart or is it just a costume piece. The impression I got is that he is tired. He's been working it and working it and working it for so many years for such limited results. It has to be dishearting to go out on New Years Eve in front of about 1,000 people, compared to 40,000-100,000 people in his high point. It's got to break his heart. I almost see that Dave's love affair is gone from it. He is holding on for that one last moment of glory (which is probably with VH) so he can ride off into the airbriushed sunset on a high note rhinocerus. He doesn't do it for the fans, he does it for the glory and himself. If he did for us, he'd have a great website, record great albums (Sorry Diamond Dave ain't one) and do things with us in mind. He does it for that last great adventure. The comeback. I looked into his eyes and I feel like he's lost his way and he frankly can't find the way out. When he sang Gigalo it seemed, he sang "I Ain't got Nobody!" he meant it. That song affected me in the concert, because I am going through similar things right now. (I am in the middle of a nasty divorce and feel alone and not appreciated.) When I looked at him I felt the same way. Not like my teenage hero, but as a human. Now if he did that more and put it into the music, maybe he'd find the way. DAve just be yourself. God bless you and thank you David Lee. God bless ya'

    Alex
    Oops. I wasn't paying attention. Tell me again what is going on.
    "I decided to name my new band DLR because when you say David Lee Roth people think of an individual, but when you say DLR you think of a band. Its just like when you say Edward Van Halen, people think of an individual, but when you say Van Halen, you think of…David Lee Roth, baby!"!

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    • conyo
      Groupie
      • Aug 2004
      • 58

      #3
      "Oops. I wasn't paying attention. Tell me again what is going on."

      Huh?

      Alex

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      • ELVIS
        Banned
        • Dec 2003
        • 44120

        #4
        Dude, get over yourself...

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        • tarpit
          Roth Army Recruit
          • Jun 2004
          • 5

          #5
          Conyo, You sound like Daves fucking psychologist.Dave is 50 but cant possibly look and feel like he did in 82.Who does?
          I take my hat off to any musician and or porformer who can still bring us the good stuff after all these years...Thanks to the King!!
          David lee Roth

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          • jojo2371
            Head Fluffer
            • Nov 2004
            • 324

            #6
            good call tarpit ! even at 50 dave still rocks the house and delivers the goods

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            • fresh
              Roth Army Recruit
              • Feb 2004
              • 9

              #7
              Mick is doin it. Steve Tyler still has it. Dave needs to bring himself back up to par. oh and one more thing. Drop the comedy bit. May have been funny 82 when he could do no wrong but today he needs to realize he's a rocker not a comedian.

              First Post from the No. 1 DLR fan

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              • guwapo_rocker

                #8
                Originally posted by fresh
                Mick is doin it. Steve Tyler still has it. Dave needs to bring himself back up to par. oh and one more thing. Drop the comedy bit. May have been funny 82 when he could do no wrong but today he needs to realize he's a rocker not a comedian.

                First Post from the No. 1 DLR fan
                Suggesting Dave drop the comedy suggests you know little about him.

                You are not his number one fan.

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                • Nickdfresh
                  SUPER MODERATOR

                  • Oct 2004
                  • 49203

                  #9
                  Originally posted by fresh
                  Mick is doin it. Steve Tyler still has it. Dave needs to bring himself back up to par. oh and one more thing. Drop the comedy bit. May have been funny 82 when he could do no wrong but today he needs to realize he's a rocker not a comedian.

                  First Post from the No. 1 DLR fan
                  You sound overly critical and judgemental for "Number ONE Fan" Status.

                  Are you so picky and critical when evaluating Mick and Steven?


                  "Dave, Im yer' number ONE fan"--Fresh!

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                  • Nickdfresh
                    SUPER MODERATOR

                    • Oct 2004
                    • 49203

                    #10
                    Re: My New Years Review (long Post)

                    Originally posted by conyo
                    Alright folks....This is a long. long post. Please forgive me.

                    I been a DLR/CVH fan for twenty years and I've seen Dave 5 times in the past. So heres the review for the New Years Show.

                    Got to Universal right on time and landed about fourth row stage right, right in front of...blah blah blah blah blah full of shit...blah blah blah...could have been any Dave show....blah blah blah pyschoanalyse Dave...blah blah blah full of shit....I am attention whore....blah blah blah blah blah...

                    Alex

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                    • lms2

                      #11
                      Were those the interesting stories as well?

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                      • conyo
                        Groupie
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 58

                        #12
                        I never said he wasn't great. He was great on New Years. He is, has and will be my hero. The man is everything I am not. I just hate it when he sells himself short and starts acting like a Vaudeville comedian. when I know in my heart that if he put his mind to it he would DESTROY everything out there. I live to see the day that the public recognizes him for the genius that he is. He's a Rock and Roll Icon. Problem is he's given up, almost as if he thinks that without Ed and company he can be #1 again. If that's true (which I hope it isn't.) that sucks.

                        Alex

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                        • light 'em up!
                          Foot Soldier
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 686

                          #13
                          Originally posted by conyo
                          I just hate it when he sells himself short and starts acting like a Vaudeville comedian
                          Dude, you definitely don't get David Lee Roth.

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                          • fresh
                            Roth Army Recruit
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 9

                            #14
                            Back to No. 1 fan, thats me. In response to me being critical I am only comparing DLR to 2 other lead vocalist who have maintained that godlike rock star, singer status. Truley those are just 2 examples of rock singers who still have the attitude. it's all about attitude and knowing you are the best in the room. Now at 50 this is a tall order to ask. This is a young mans game mind you. You certainly don't expect Michael Jordon to be the greatest b-ball player now that he's 40 something. Just as you don't expect a great kickass musician to be as kickass as they were at the beginning of their career. And both Mick and Steve have a huge advantage over Dave in that their bands / members are still backing them up. They still have quality musicians to collaborate with. All in All DLR is the greatest of alltime. At his peak no one before or after will ever touch what he could do at the peak of his career. Maybe Plant and Jagger come in a close second/3rd, but bar none Dave was the greatest.

                            Today he is not the same man nor most of us are. But his own image is what he has to live up to and again that is a tall order. Still he has within his power to make changes and better himself. But it's all about attitude. And attitude in this business equals how much ass do you want your music to kick. You listen to early VH. Listen to the vocals. You do the math. Take his music then minus what he put out recently and you get WOW! a big gap of desire to go out and show everyone that you are about taking your music to a level where no one else can match. Thats early VH. Thats early DLR. Thats kicking ass.

                            Finally, I'm only being critical because I would love nothing more than to see him comeback and blow everybody away. This may not be possible without a reunion but even if that doesn't take place he can make the necessary changes to gain some musical respect back. No. 1 quit the shtick. I mean I know he's always had this great sence of humor and I'm not asking him to change his personality. It's just that he went from being a great musician who happen to have a great sence of humor to a mediocre musician who wants to be a comedian. All I'm saying is get back to your basics and think "I wanna kick somebody's ass" rather than take a JD bottle for the 1000th time and shoot it at some chick in the front row. Thats not cool man. Thats not funny. Thats shtick.

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                            • conyo
                              Groupie
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 58

                              #15
                              "Finally, I'm only being critical because I would love nothing more than to see him comeback and blow everybody away.....All I'm saying is get back to your basics and think "I wanna kick somebody's ass" rather than take a JD bottle for the 1000th time and shoot it at some chick in the front row. Thats not cool man. Thats not funny. Thats shtick."

                              YES!!! Thank you so very much for getting my post.

                              You see from what I've read Fresh and I LOVE Dave. We don't like what he's doing. All we are saying is get back to basics, get back the attitude, earn back the respect. Kick ass.

                              Alex

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