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LoungeMachine
01-05-2005, 06:25 PM
CALLS FOR THE IRAQI ELECTION POSTPONEMENT GROWS
The Associated Press

BAGHDAD, Iraq Jan 4, 2005 — More Iraqi interim government officials are calling for postponing Jan. 30 elections to ensure a higher Sunni voter turnout, a sign that a campaign of violence might be taking its toll on Iraqi resolve. The country's electoral commission, however, insists that voting take place as scheduled.

Sunni Arab clerics have called for a boycott and Iraq's largest Sunni political party announced it was pulling out of the race because of poor security that has seen insurgents kill scores of Iraqi security forces, as well as several election officials, in recent weeks.

Several proposals have been floated lately to counter the threat of a low Sunni turnout that would undermine the legitimacy of the vote the country's first free elections since monarchy in 1958. Iraqis are to choose a legislative assembly to draft a constitution.

Defense Minister Hazem Shaalan told reporters in Cairo Monday that he has asked Egypt to try to persuade the Sunnis to participate in the elections.


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"And if they agreed, then we could postpone the date to let all Iraqis go to the polls in one day," he said.

It is not clear, however, who the Egyptians would negotiate with or if they would in fact take up the offer in the absence of a definitive Sunni leadership in Iraq that parallels the hierarchal Shiite religious authority. The Egyptian government, known for its crackdown on its own Muslim Brotherhood movement, is also likely to refuse to hold talks with a party like the Iraqi Islamic Party that withdrew from the race to convince it to reverse its decision.

Iraq's ambassador to the United Nations suggested the election could be delayed by two or three weeks. In an opinion piece in The Washington Post last week, Samir al-Sumaidaie proposed that idea and a host of others, including reserving some seats for groups who do poorly if their supporters don't vote a clear reference to the Sunnis.

Al-Sumaidaie suggested a number of seats could be left vacant for the Sunni provinces, where elections could be held after Jan. 30.

"Such a solution would have the merit of satisfying all those who want elections as soon as possible, thus denying terrorists a victory while producing a legitimate elected government that could focus on stabilizing the country," he wrote.

But Fareed Ayar, a spokesman for the Independent Electoral Commission, seemed adamant that there would be no delay.

"The commission is still working on holding the elections on its scheduled time and according to the timetable we have," Ayar said Monday.

Commenting on the floating proposals to postpone the elections, including the defense minister's, Ayar said the commission has not been officially notified of any such ideas.

"We read and hear about those statements in the newspapers and the media like others, but we have not formally received anything," Ayar said.

The Shiite leaders, who are backed by Iraq's most influential cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, reiterated the Shiite's staunch stance on going ahead with the elections as scheduled, saying postponing the vote would only create more chaos.

Shiite leaders of the Unified Iraqi Alliance, a mainstream Shiite coalition running in the election and one that is expected to do very well, reached out to Sunni Arabs on Sunday. The group called for talks to avert sectarianism and civil war.

Cairo-based political analyst Wahid Abdel Meguid downplayed calls for postponing the elections to reach out to Sunnis, saying such attempts "do not matter much in the Iraqi political arena, where the powerful players, namely the Shiite leadership is insistent on holding the elections on time."

"It is a last try, and it could be sincere," Abdel Meguid said. "But it pales amid the majority's stance."

A U.S. embassy spokesman said there has been no talk between the Americans and Iraqi officials on delaying the vote.

"Everything we do in this embassy is to support the Iraqis to have free, fair and inclusive elections on Jan. 30 of this year," Bob Callahan said. "We expect that there will be elections on Jan. 30 and only on Jan. 30 and that the result of those elections would be recognized and honored. That's what the law calls for … and that's precisely what we're working toward."

Iraqi fundamentalists have taken up al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden's claim, made a week ago, that elections are un-Islamic because democracy means the people, not God, are in charge.

BigBadBrian
01-05-2005, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine


Sunni Arab clerics have called for a boycott and Iraq's largest Sunni political party announced it was pulling out of the race because of poor security that has seen insurgents kill scores of Iraqi security forces, as well as several election officials, in recent weeks.




They know the Shiites are going to whip their ass, that's why.

It's like the Democrats asking for a postponement in our elections. :gulp:

LoungeMachine
01-05-2005, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
They know the Shiites are going to whip their ass, that's why.

It's like the Democrats asking for a postponement in our elections. :gulp:

How FUNNY you should bring that up......

IF you will recall, BigBLINDBrian,

IT WAS THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION PREPARING TO POSTPONE OUR ELECTION DUE TO POSSIBLE TERROR ALERT

:D :D :D

You crack me up, bud

LoungeMachine
01-05-2005, 06:55 PM
Exclusive: Election Day WorriesBy Michael Isikoff
Investigative Correspondent
NewsweekJuly 19 issue - American counterterrorism officials, citing what they call "alarming" intelligence about a possible Qaeda strike inside the United States this fall, are reviewing a proposal that could allow for the postponement of the November presidential election in the event of such an attack, NEWSWEEK has learned.


The prospect that Al Qaeda might seek to disrupt the U.S. election was a major factor behind last week's terror warning by Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge. Ridge and other counterterrorism officials concede they have no intel about any specific plots. But the success of March's Madrid railway bombings in influencing the Spanish elections—as well as intercepted "chatter" among Qaeda operatives—has led analysts to conclude "they want to interfere with the elections," says one official.

LoungeMachine
01-05-2005, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian


It's like the Democrats asking for a postponement in our elections. :gulp:

Don't just stand there BBB, pick up your jock strap:D

Democrats calling for US election postponement??????


ooopsss

YOUR bad:rolleyes:

DEMON CUNT
01-05-2005, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
IT WAS THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION PREPARING TO POSTPONE OUR ELECTION DUE TO POSSIBLE TERROR ALERT

How soon they fucking forget!

Our government depends on the short memories of the American public.

BigBadBrian
01-06-2005, 09:37 AM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Exclusive: Election Day WorriesBy Michael Isikoff
Investigative Correspondent
NewsweekJuly 19 issue - American counterterrorism officials, citing what they call "alarming" intelligence about a possible Qaeda strike inside the United States this fall, are reviewing a proposal that could allow for the postponement of the November presidential election in the event of such an attack, NEWSWEEK has learned.


The prospect that Al Qaeda might seek to disrupt the U.S. election was a major factor behind last week's terror warning by Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge. Ridge and other counterterrorism officials concede they have no intel about any specific plots. But the success of March's Madrid railway bombings in influencing the Spanish elections—as well as intercepted "chatter" among Qaeda operatives—has led analysts to conclude "they want to interfere with the elections," says one official.

How soon we forget the power black-out that cripple much of the NorthEast in August of 2003.

Now imagine if something like that had occurred on election day. In the North-East. In mostly Democratic states. There is no provision in our Constitution to allow those voters to vote on another day.

Damn, ain't that a bitch. :) :( :D ;) :eek:

DEMON CUNT
01-06-2005, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian

Now imagine if something like that had occurred on election day. In the North-East. In mostly Democratic states. There is no provision in our Constitution to allow those voters to vote on another day.


Now imagine if space aliens landed and turned all of the voting machines into effigies (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=effigies&r=67) of BigBadBrian! There is no provision in our Constitution to allow those voters to vote on effigies (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=effigies&r=67) of BigBadBrian.

Way to stay on subject BigBland.

BigBadBrian
01-06-2005, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by DEMON CUNT


Way to stay on subject BigBland.

I knew YOU wouldn't be able to figure it out.

Let's see if the others can take a stab at terrorism and other contingencies on election day. ;)

DEMON CUNT
01-06-2005, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
I knew YOU wouldn't be able to figure it out.

Let's see if the others can take a stab at terrorism and other contingencies on election day.

Sure! Let's speculate retroactively! What if gay people got married on Election Day?

When all else fails cloud the argument! How Karl Rovian of you!