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BigBadBrian
01-18-2005, 07:49 PM
UK soldiers abused Iraqi detainees, court told
Financial Times

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/5f1f8948-6998-11d9-81e7-00000e2511c8.html

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By Hugh Williamson in Berlinand Jean Eaglesham
Published: January 18 2005 21:32 | Last updated: January 18 2005 21:32

The photographs of alleged abuse of Iraqi detainees by three British soldiers reflected “shocking and appalling” incidents, the prosecution told a court martial in Germany on Tuesday.


According to the charge sheet, obtained by the Financial Times, the three men, aged between 25 and 33, are accused of simulating violence against unidentified detainees, of driving a bound man around in a fork-lift truck and of forcing naked male detainees to simulate the performance of sexual acts.

The three soldiers face a total of nine charges between them, relating to offences alleged to have taken place in an aid camp near Basra, in southern Iraq, in May 2003. The case is the first of its kind involving British forces.

Lance Corporal Darren Larkin, one of the three accused, on Tuesday pleaded guilty to battery, for assaulting and beating an Iraqi in his custody. He denied another charge. Cpl Daniel Kenyon and L Cpl Mark Cooley entered not guilty pleas.

A fourth soldier, Fusilier Gary Bartlam, has already faced a court martial on similar charges arising from the same incident in May 2003, but reporting restrictions are in place regarding this case.

The accusations against the soldiers surfaced when staff at a photograph development laboratory in Britain showed police photographs that were purported to depict scenes of abuse. The prosecuting officer told the court “it cannot be said that these photographs are of incidents that are anything other than shocking and appalling”. A defence lawyer for the three accused yesterday said there had been orders from senior officers for the soldiers to “deal firmly” with the Iraqis because they were accused of stealing food.

The court martial proceedings are taking place in a UK military base in Osnabrück, northern Germany, where the accused men, who belong to the Royal Regiment of Fusiliers, are stationed.

At the start of proceedings on Tuesday, judge advocate Michael Hunter swore in seven officers who will form a jury to decide the verdict. The trial is expected to last several weeks. If found guilty, the accused face prison sentences and dishonourable discharge from the army.

A statement issued on Tuesdayby General Sir Mike Jackson, the head of the British army, stressed that he could not comment on the photographs while the trial was proceeding.

But it sought to put the trial in context by stating that only a “very small number” of the 65,000 troops who had served were alleged to have been involved “in incidents of this type”. As a result, there was only a “very small” number of ongoing investigations into deliberate abuse against Iraqi citizens, Gen Jackson said.

The British military has launched more than 100 investigations into the deaths and injuries of Iraqis in incidents that range from combat to detention to road accidents.

Gen Jackson said the armed forces would “of course study the outcome of this court martial, and consider whether it raises any new issues for the army”.

BigBadBrian
01-18-2005, 07:55 PM
More pics:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/graphics/2005/01/18/puabus_big.jpg

http://images.thetimes.co.uk/TGD/picture/0,,173241,00.jpg

Samsonite
01-18-2005, 07:57 PM
I don't think a court ruling will affect anyone's opinions on it.

DEMON CUNT
01-18-2005, 08:39 PM
Hunderds if not thousands of "coalition of the willing" personnel are in on this bullshit.

Fucking shameful!

If you voted for Bush, you voted for this!

Wait until some of the video finally leaks out.

Spc. Graner
01-18-2005, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
More pics:
http://images.thetimes.co.uk/TGD/picture/0,,173241,00.jpg

FUCK YEAH! Now that looks like a party!

See what you get for being an Iraqi!!! Ha ha!

BigBadBrian
01-21-2005, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by DEMON CUNT
Hunderds if not thousands of "coalition of the willing" personnel are in on this bullshit.



[B]If you voted for Bush, you voted for this!



You say this line like a good little liberal parrot. Would you like a cracker? :D

Sesh, any comment? :rolleyes:

Seshmeister
01-22-2005, 12:14 PM
I'm glad these scum are being prosecuted.

The difference is they were a few bad apples whereas the torture at Abu Grahib and Guantanamo is/was US government policy.

BigBadBrian
01-24-2005, 09:47 AM
Originally posted by Seshmeister
I'm glad these scum are being prosecuted.

The difference is they were a few bad apples whereas the torture at Abu Grahib and Guantanamo is/was US government policy.

Few bad apples? Give me a break. Sesh, you're seriously kidding yourself if you think your boys haven't "twisted a few arms" to get information.

Colonel Collins got off so there are is no doubt a bigger problem in the British forces than they would care to realize. Hear no evil, see no evil, I guess. :gulp: