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Steve Savicki
01-19-2005, 08:50 AM
"I have just come back from Iraq. After several months consumed by the campaign trail, I wanted to make contact with our soldiers on the ground there. The first thing I want you to know is that, in very difficult circumstances, our brave soldiers are serving America with enormous skill and great courage.

In the Senate, we have a duty during times like these to hold our Defense Department accountable for the well-being of our troops. It's one of the ways that our democracy makes our military the strongest in the world. And I can't tell you how comforting it is as a soldier to know even if you don't have a say over your own situation, the folks back home do.

I knew our soldiers were still facing hold ups getting the equipment they need, but I wanted to see it for myself. American troops deserve the best gear and equipment we can provide. But adequate vehicle armor remains in short supply.

A soldier who spoke up about these problems was told by Defense Secretary Rumsfeld, "you have to go to war with the army you have, not the army you want."1 Well, it's been over two years since Rumsfeld planned this war. And whether he has the army he wants or not, he should at least have basic armor for army vehicles.

I'll say this in the Senate, but I'm asking you to add your voice to mine:

"President Bush, for the sake of our troops, replace Rumsfeld now."

http://www.johnkerry.com/replacerumsfeld

More than 500,000 called for Rumsfeld to resign during the presidential campaign. I'm renewing my call now -- please renew yours too, and forward this email to friends to bring them on board. Add your name to mine here, and add your voice to mine by speaking out in your community as I will do in the US Senate for as long as it takes to remove Secretary Rumsfeld from his post:

http://www.johnkerry.com/replacerumsfeld

It's a question of competence. Poor planning at the Pentagon is letting American soldiers down. According to the National Intelligence Council, the CIA director's think tank, Iraq is now providing the next generation of "professionalized" terrorists with "a training ground, a recruitment ground, [and] the opportunity for enhancing technical skills."2 Our troops need a capable Secretary of Defense. At the very least, they absolutely need that.

I believe that together, the three million of us who worked together on the campaign can help the troops. We not only have a right to speak out against failed Bush policies: we have a duty to defend this country from a President who refuses to recognize the total inadequacy of his own Defense Secretary. That's how democracy works. And that's why America has worked all these years.

The campaign season is over, but our citizenship continues. I know from personal experience that citizens and Senators standing up for the truth can be a powerful combination. Now, with email and the Web as citizenship tools, we can make ourselves heard even more clearly. And I can't tell you how inspired I am that you and I are using these tools to fight side-by-side for the things we believe in.

One more time: please join me in my call for President Bush to fire Donald Rumsfeld. He's the man responsible for the well-being of our troops. He's neglected his duty. He's made excuses. It's time for him to go.

Add your voice to mine in the Senate in calling for President Bush to replace Rumsfeld today.


http://www.johnkerry.com/replacerumsfeld

Thank you,

John Kerry.

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WHY RUMSFELD HAS TO GO!

1) Rumsfeld Blamed The Troops for Problems in IRAQ

Rumsfeld: "As you know, you have to go to war with the Army you have, not the Army you want." [CNN, 12/9/04]

2) Rumsfeld Admitted Bush Administration Was Not Prepared for Iraqi Resistance

Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld admitted that "I am saying that -- if you had said to me a year ago, 'describe the situation you'll be in today, one year later,' I don't know many people who would have described it -- I would not have described it -- the way it happens to be today. ... I certainly would not have estimated that we would have had the number of individuals lost that we have had lost in the last week." [Rumsfeld News Conference, 4/15/04]

3) Rumsfeld Failed to Equip Troops in Iraq

Army Study Suggests One-Fourth of Casualties in Iraq Could Have Been Prevented If Troops Were Properly-Equipped at Beginning of War. Newsweek reported, "A breakdown of the casualty figures suggests that many U.S. deaths and wounds in Iraq simply did not need to occur. According to an unofficial study by a defense consultant that is now circulating through the Army, of a total of 789 Coalition deaths as of April 15 (686 of them Americans), 142 were killed by land mines or improvised explosive devices, while 48 others died in rocket-propelled-grenade attacks. Almost all those soldiers were killed while in unprotected vehicles, which means that perhaps one in four of those killed in combat in Iraq might be alive if they had had stronger armor around them, the study suggested. Thousands more who were unprotected have suffered grievous wounds, such as the loss of limbs." [Newsweek, 5/3/04]

4) Rumsfeld Failed to Plan for Iraq War

In August 2003, the Joint Chiefs of Staff prepared a secret report assessing the post-war planning for Iraq. The report blamed "setbacks in Iraq on a flawed and rushed war-planning process." It also said "planners were not given enough time" to plan for reconstruction. [Washington Times, 9/3/03]

5) Rumsfeld Failed To Sign Condolence Letters to Families of Soldiers Killed in War on Terror

ABC World News Tonight, "Now on the home front here, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is under fire from some military families and members of the Congress. They're upset that he has used a machine to attach his signature to some letters of condolence. More than a thousand of those letters have been sent to families who have lost sons and daughters in the global war on terror." ABC (Yang) added, "After Ivan Medina's twin brother Irving an Army Specialist was killed in Baghdad last year he got a letter of condolence from Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. Today, Medina himself a veteran of Iraq said he was angered to learn that Rumsfeld never actually signed the letter or even saw it." Medina: "Our commanders here in the United States who include the President and the Secretary of Defense don't care about the troops. We're just a number to them and that's the wrong message to send back to our troops." Yang: "In a statement Rumsfeld said he used a machine." [ABC World News Tonight, 12/19/04]

Notes:

1. MSNBC, January 13, 2005

2. CNN, December 9, 2004 "

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FORD
01-19-2005, 09:09 AM
More power to Judas for getting rid of Rummy, but he went way too easy on Kindasleazy Lies yesterday. That fucking bitch told one lie after another and what does IsKerryot say? You're going to be confirmed, we all know that....

BULLSHIT, waffle boy! It's your job to determine whether or not she deserves confirmation. Why don't you ask Barbara Boxer how it's done, fuckwad? :mad:

ODShowtime
01-19-2005, 01:32 PM
barb's gonna get hit soon

ELVIS
01-19-2005, 01:58 PM
Boxer is a disgrace to the human race...

Nickdfresh
01-19-2005, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS
Boxer is a disgrace to the human race...

Sounds like a prerequisite for joining the Bush Administration.

Jesus Christ
01-19-2005, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS
Boxer is a disgrace to the human race...

Careful Gregory... she is one of My chosen people, ye know.....

academic punk
01-19-2005, 02:42 PM
Why is Boxer a disgrace? Because she didn't ask question regarding Rice's age three piano lessons?

It's a HEARING for THE most important position in US diplomacy matters. Tough questions HAVE to be asked. All Boxer has done is actually, GOD FORBID, stand up and bring a voice to TENS OF MILLIONS of people in this country. If Ms. Rice can stand up to the questions and answer them in a clear, honest, straight-forward manner, then perhaps she can WIN a great number of these people with doubts over.

She's already been confirmed. Boxer - like everyone else - knew it was going to go through. Good for her for still taking on what she obviously beleived to be a responsibility regardless.

ODShowtime
01-19-2005, 02:55 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS
Boxer is a disgrace to the human race...

I'm curious. Do you say that only because of the Rice questioning or some other thing she did in the past?

I'm sure you don't have many kind words for California democrats in general.

BigBadBrian
01-19-2005, 04:00 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Why don't you ask Barbara Boxer how it's done, fuckwad? :mad:

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20050106/i/r3349095374.jpg

Guitar Shark
01-19-2005, 04:55 PM
Damn, the years have not been kind to her!

ELVIS
01-19-2005, 05:42 PM
Boxer basically called Rice a liar to her face...

Mrs. Rice responded beautifully...

Nickdfresh
01-19-2005, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS
Boxer basically called Rice a liar to her face...

Mrs. Rice responded beautifully...

She is a liar, basically, which is why she responded 'beautifully.'

Rice is the Queen of all buckpassers.

Wayne L.
01-19-2005, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
She is a liar, basically, which is why she responded 'beautifully.'

Rice is the Queen of all buckpassers.

Condoleeza Rice knows what she's talking about while Barbara Boxer is for the terrorists it seems with the political ranting sadly.

Nickdfresh
01-19-2005, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by Wayne L.
Condoleeza Rice knows what she's talking about while Barbara Boxer is for the terrorists it seems with the political ranting sadly.

Maybe you should stay away from political 'ranting' for a while Wayne.

Wayne L.
01-19-2005, 08:47 PM
Nobody cares what John Kerry has to say anyway except in the mainstream media.

Wayne L.
01-19-2005, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Maybe you should stay away from political 'ranting' for a while Wayne.

I don't think so.

FORD
01-19-2005, 08:49 PM
Maybe Wayne should stop sniffing shoes for a while? It's killing what few brain cells he had, and that wasn't many to start with.

Wayne L.
01-19-2005, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Maybe Wayne should stop sniffing shoes for a while? It's killing what few brain cells he had, and that wasn't many to start with.

I'm not into sniffing shoes at all but I do have a fetish for long legs & sexy feet on beautiful women. Don't you think Senator Boxer is out of her mind mentally & intellectually FORD?

ODShowtime
01-19-2005, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by Wayne L.
Nobody cares what John Kerry has to say anyway except in the mainstream media.

this is just a strange thing to say

I bet ol' Wayne gets a lot of cockeyed looks in the real world.

Nickdfresh
01-19-2005, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by Wayne L.
I'm not into sniffing shoes at all but I do have a fetish for long legs & sexy feet on beautiful women. Don't you think Senator Boxer is out of her mind mentally & intellectually FORD?




C'mon Wayne!

Wayne L.
01-19-2005, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by ODShowtime
this is just a strange thing to say

I bet ol' Wayne gets a lot of cockeyed looks in the real world.

It's the truth concerning my comments about John Kerry & the media.

Wayne L.
01-19-2005, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
C'mon Wayne!

C'mon what?

Nickdfresh
01-19-2005, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by Wayne L.
C'mon what?

Stop embarrassing yourself here. Lay off the CRACK!

Wayne L.
01-19-2005, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Stop embarrassing yourself here. Lay off the CRACK!

That's your game.

Steve Savicki
01-19-2005, 09:53 PM
Amazing how a thread about John Kerry speaking turns into a shoe sniffing thread into yet another Wayne L. battle.

LOL!

Anyways, have a good evening. :)

Nickdfresh
01-19-2005, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by Wayne L.
That's your game.

No, you are! Wayne, your comebacks are like from a second-grade level. Jesus Christ Wayne, try getting your GED or something.

academic punk
01-19-2005, 10:51 PM
Show me where Boxer referred to Rice as a liar. She simply cited some things Rice has said in the past, and shown the contradictions to her current statements.

sheesh.

FORD
01-20-2005, 12:14 AM
Credit where credit is due, Judas voted correctly today in an attempt to "table" the nomination. He and Senator Boxer were the only ones voting in the best interests of America.

Maybe Judas or someone from his family posts at the Front Line, and they were paying attention to this thread?

Chris Heinz posts at DU, so it's not entirely out of the question ;)

And let's hope Kerry doesn't flip flop before it comes to a full Senate vote on Tuesday.

Nickdfresh
01-20-2005, 06:26 AM
Kerry did vote against her Ford, he also brought up the ACCOUNTABILITY issue in his speech.

Wayne L.
01-20-2005, 06:32 AM
John Kerry will never become president because he's no JFK & he's an extreme liberal whiner who doesn't have a chance because the American people aren't as stupid as he is but he's playing to the Michael Moore base of the Democratic Party.

diamondD
01-20-2005, 08:30 AM
Originally posted by FORD
Credit where credit is due, Judas voted correctly today in an attempt to "table" the nomination. He and Senator Boxer were the only ones voting in the best interests of America.

Maybe Judas or someone from his family posts at the Front Line, and they were paying attention to this thread?

Chris Heinz posts at DU, so it's not entirely out of the question ;)

And let's hope Kerry doesn't flip flop before it comes to a full Senate vote on Tuesday.


Maybe Carl Rove's operatives that you say post here told him? :confused: ;)