Bill & Hill Push for 'Anybody But Dean'

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  • John Ashcroft
    Veteran
    • Jan 2004
    • 2127

    Bill & Hill Push for 'Anybody But Dean'

    Former Vermont Governor Howard Dean may be the frontrunner in the race for Democratic National Committee chairman, but the party's two biggest stars are quietly working behind the scenes to torpedo his chances.

    "The Clintons don't like Dean on substance or style, seeing him as too left and too loose-lipped," reports Newsweek in Monday editions.

    The former first couple headlined an inauguration night bash at the D.C. home of former Clinton pollster Mark Penn, where one attendee said, "There was a ton of positive energy at the house - except for the fear and loathing of Dean."
    The Clintons are doing their best to keep their antipathy towards Dean under wraps, lest he win the post and throw his support to someone besides Hillary in 2008.

    But while Sen. Clinton is keeping her head down, Newsweek says her ex-president hubby has taken an active role is searching out an acceptable substitute for the volatile Vermont liberal when the party votes on Feb. 12.

    Last month Mr. Clinton personally sounded out current chairman Terry McAuliffe, asking him to stay on the job and head Dean off at the pass. McAuliffe declined.

    Dean's chief rival had been longtime Clinton loyalist Harold Ickes. But he dropped out of the race in December after saying he didn't think Sen. Clinton could win the White House.

    Other names touted as possible alternatives to Dean: former Texas congressman Martin Frost, one-time party chair Ed Rendell, pro-lifer Tim Roemer and former Clinton U.N. ambassador-turned-New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson.

    Link: here

    Anyone still think the Clintons don't run the Democratic party? How many elections does your side need to lose before you abandon the love affair with the Clintons???
  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 58755

    #2
    no love affair with Stepford Neocon Zombie Hillary here!

    Did you see her swaying back and forth like a 13 year old girl at a Journey concert when that Lawrence Welk reject was singing "your" fascist anthem "Let The Eagle Sooooooooaaaaaaar"???

    I was waiting for the delusional bitch to hold up a flaming lighter.

    FUCK Hillary!

    DEAN for DNC chair - the ONLY hope of saving this fucking party.
    Eat Us And Smile

    Cenk For America 2024!!

    Justice Democrats


    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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    • Jesterstar
      Crazy Ass Mofo
      • Jan 2004
      • 2844

      #3
      Clinton a known member of "THE BOHEIMIAN MEN'S CLUB" and puppet for the NWO.
      Seshmeister is such a STUD.........OOOOOOOOOO

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/im...cnesbitt_1.jpg

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      • T,nextquestion
        Roth Army Recruit
        • Jan 2005
        • 6

        #4
        Thundershit is not allowed in this forum**
        Last edited by FORD; 01-23-2005, 01:57 PM.

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        • T,nextquestion
          Roth Army Recruit
          • Jan 2005
          • 6

          #5
          I'm a criminal racist pedophile who has been banned from this site 5 times.
          Last edited by FORD; 01-23-2005, 03:03 PM.

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          • Nickdfresh
            SUPER MODERATOR

            • Oct 2004
            • 49127

            #6
            Originally posted by T,nextquestion
            The humiliation and embarrassment over that 3 million vote margin really eats at ya doesn't it. Poor, poor choice in supporting this jag off. But you're probably use to it.
            I guess Bush got the Pedophile vote, eh JoeSucksThunderingCocks!?

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            • ALinChainz
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Jan 2004
              • 12080

              #7
              Originally posted by T,nextquestion
              I'm a criminal racist pedophile who has been banned from this site 5 times.
              Finally the truth huh Joe?

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              • John Ashcroft
                Veteran
                • Jan 2004
                • 2127

                #8
                Heh heh...

                You guys are harsh!

                Pretty fucking funny though.

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                • freak
                  Sniper
                  • May 2004
                  • 980

                  #9
                  Bill, in particular, is right about not wanting Dean. He lead the Democrats to power by presenting a moderate face to the party. Dean is Walter Mondale on amphetamines. Way too left wing.

                  Hillary, of course, wants no-one to step into "her" limelight.

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                  • FORD
                    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                    • Jan 2004
                    • 58755

                    #10
                    Originally posted by freak
                    Bill, in particular, is right about not wanting Dean. He lead the Democrats to power by presenting a moderate face to the party. Dean is Walter Mondale on amphetamines. Way too left wing.

                    Do you actually know anything about Howard Dean's record, or do you just take FAUX News' word for it.

                    How is a fiscal conservative who balanced the budget of his state every year he was governor (even though Vermont state law does not require it) a "left winger"??

                    How is a governor who recieved an "A" rating from the NRA a "left winger"??

                    Care to cite some examples of Dean's alleged "liberal extremism"?
                    Eat Us And Smile

                    Cenk For America 2024!!

                    Justice Democrats


                    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                    • freak
                      Sniper
                      • May 2004
                      • 980

                      #11
                      Originally posted by FORD
                      Care to cite some examples of Dean's alleged "liberal extremism"?
                      All you have to do is look at his campaign. He courted the far left and it got him no-where. Hillary and Bill did it better.

                      He balanced his state's budget largely through taxation. Not exactly fiscal conservatism.

                      Also, sealing his records for ten years isn't indicative of someone proud of his record.

                      He will never be a president. And, with Hill and Bill still in the mix, he will never be a chair.

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                      • madraoul
                        Foot Soldier
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 530

                        #12
                        Originally posted by freak
                        All you have to do is look at his campaign. He courted the far left and it got him no-where. Hillary and Bill did it better.

                        He balanced his state's budget largely through taxation. Not exactly fiscal conservatism.

                        Also, sealing his records for ten years isn't indicative of someone proud of his record.

                        He will never be a president. And, with Hill and Bill still in the mix, he will never be a chair.
                        I agree somewhat. But with our country currently to the right of the pope, maybe it's time for the extreme left to lash out. Dems are not going against "normal" Republicans here. Now is the time to challenge these "monarchs" and their lies. Remember, John McCain has a black baby!

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                        • FORD
                          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                          • Jan 2004
                          • 58755

                          #13
                          Originally posted by freak


                          Also, sealing his records for ten years isn't indicative of someone proud of his record.

                          Like Reagan, Poppy, and Junior, you mean?

                          In fact theirs have been sealed much longer.

                          Dean has said that, to his knowledge, records that were sealed were done so to protect the privacy of private citizens in Vermont, not for his own benefit. While much of state government documents in any state are considered public property, there ARE definite exceptions on confidentiality grounds, and the specifics of that would likely vary from state to state.

                          Furthermore, during the Presidential campaign, the sealed records were under judicial review and it was not possible for Dean to either release them or demand them to remain sealed.
                          Eat Us And Smile

                          Cenk For America 2024!!

                          Justice Democrats


                          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                          • madraoul
                            Foot Soldier
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 530

                            #14
                            Originally posted by FORD
                            Like Reagan, Poppy, and Junior, you mean?

                            In fact theirs have been sealed much longer.

                            Dean has said that, to his knowledge, records that were sealed were done so to protect the privacy of private citizens in Vermont, not for his own benefit. While much of state government documents in any state are considered public property, there ARE definite exceptions on confidentiality grounds, and the specifics of that would likely vary from state to state.

                            Furthermore, during the Presidential campaign, the sealed records were under judicial review and it was not possible for Dean to either release them or demand them to remain sealed.
                            Ford, you can't win this argument. Of course the NeoCons hide everything. Nobody seems to care. When they bring up a bogus charge, it's time to make up a worse bogus charge about them and move on. You know, just to get on ET. Why must we answer for everything and they answer for nothing? Funny, my guy gets a blow job and is raked over the coals. Men (used loosely) that commited treason by selling arms to the enemy are more powerful than ever. These include people that were convicted and then pardoned by George I.

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                            • Nickdfresh
                              SUPER MODERATOR

                              • Oct 2004
                              • 49127

                              #15
                              Originally posted by freak

                              He balanced his state's budget largely through taxation. Not exactly fiscal conservatism.

                              What does that mean?:confused: Who the hell doesn't balance the budget through taxes?

                              Oh yeah, there's always massive deficit spending!

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