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  • ELVIS
    Banned
    • Dec 2003
    • 44120

    Hillary Blames Bush for Abortions

    Jan. 25, 2005




    There has been an increase in the number of abortions in eight states, and it's all President Bush's fault, says pro-abortion Senator Hillary Clinton.

    Speaking at a pro-abortion rally in Washington attended by about 1,000 abortion advocates, while hundreds of thousands of pro-lifers marched to protest abortion, the wife of the president who vetoed a ban on partial-birth abortion charged that President Bush has caused an increase in abortions because he is not fully funding family planning programs.

    Hillary claims family planning decreases the number of abortions.


    Explaining her bizarre contention, Senator Clinton said, "... unfortunately in the last few years, while we are engaged in ideological debate instead of one that uses facts and evidence and common sense, the rate of abortion is on the rise in some states."
    "In the [first] three years since President Bush took office, eight states have seen an increase in abortion rates and four saw a decrease."

    On the other hand, Clinton has claimed that during her husband's administration, "we saw the rate of abortion consistently fall."

    "The abortion rate fell by one-quarter between 1990 and 1995, the steepest decline since Roe was decided in 1973," Clinton told a conference of the Family Planning Advocates of New York. "The rate fell another 11 percent between 1994 and 2000."

    But the statistics she cited were based on numbers that Dr. Randy O'Bannon, director of education at the National Right to Life Committee, says come from a flawed study conducted by a researcher who used faulty data to survey the rise or fall of abortions during the Bush administration.

    Glen Harold Stassen, a professor of Christian Ethics at Fuller Theological Seminary, released the politically charged study just before the presidential elections, according to LifeNews.com.

    LifeNews reported that Stassen claimed abortions increased in 11 of 16 states, and assumed abortions must be on the rise nationwide.

    Stassen also reportedly used wrong figures in several states – sometimes using old stats and, in South Dakota, using the birth rate instead of the number of abortions.

    Stassen wrongly averaged the 17.4 percent decline to say that abortions decreased at the same 1.7 percent rate every year during the '90s, LifeNews.com argued.

    Since Clinton was in office during most of the 1990s, that would give him bragging rights to the abortion decrease. But Dr. O'Bannon said the rate of decline was higher in the first President Bush's years in office and slowed during the Clinton years.

    "In Clinton's last year in office, the decline was not 1.7 percent, but just 0.1 percent," O'Bannon explained.

    White House spokesman Ken Lasaius responded to Hillary's criticism with this:

    "The president believes we ought to work together to promote a culture of life. He's made it very clear that whether we agree or disagree on the issue of abortion, that we can all work together to take practical steps to reduce the number of abortions that occur."

    Clinton also wants more money for contraception, and a bigger emphasis on promoting teenage abstinence as a means of bringing about "a day when abortion is truly safe, legal and rare."

    President Bush spoke by telephone to an anti-abortion rally in Washington and, according to the AP, said, "You know, we come from many different backgrounds, but what unites us is our understanding that the essence of civilization is this: The strong have a duty to protect the weak."

    The president added that he would continue "seeking common ground where possible and persuading increasing numbers of our fellow citizens of the rightness of our cause. This is the path of the culture of life that we seek for our country."



  • LoungeMachine
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Jul 2004
    • 32555

    #2
    Fine by Me.

    Blame Bush.

    Come to think of it, I blame Bush for the break up of Van Halen too.

    and for the Mariners still sucking.

    and the movie Gigli
    Originally posted by Kristy
    Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
    Originally posted by cadaverdog
    I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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    • FORD
      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

      • Jan 2004
      • 58755

      #3
      Hillary's not much better than the BCE, but in this case, the facts are on her side.

      Abortions were declining during the 8 years of President Clinton's administration, and have increased under the BCE. Main reason?

      IT'S THE ECONOMY, STUPID!!!!
      Eat Us And Smile

      Cenk For America 2024!!

      Justice Democrats


      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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      • diamondD
        Veteran
        • Jan 2004
        • 1962

        #4
        Ask Hillary what she did about Arkansas's being in the top 3 states for out of wedlock mothers during their lengthy time in office here.
        Meet us in the future, not the pasture

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        • Nickdfresh
          SUPER MODERATOR

          • Oct 2004
          • 49125

          #5
          Originally posted by FORD
          Hillary's not much better than the BCE, but in this case, the facts are on her side.

          Abortions were declining during the 8 years of President Clinton's administration, and have increased under the BCE. Main reason?

          IT'S THE ECONOMY, STUPID!!!!
          And the fact that Dubya supports an agenda to deny kids a basic sex education and one that is telling them lies (i.e. condoms won't prevent pregnancy) and unrealistically pushing abstinence.

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          • ELVIS
            Banned
            • Dec 2003
            • 44120

            #6
            How is abstinence unrealistic ??

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            • Nickdfresh
              SUPER MODERATOR

              • Oct 2004
              • 49125

              #7
              Originally posted by ELVIS
              How is abstinence unrealistic ??
              Abstinence is an admirable and valid choice, but if you present it to teens as their only choice without informing them of birth-control, you are asking for unplanned pregnancies and abortions.

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              • LoungeMachine
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Jul 2004
                • 32555

                #8
                Originally posted by ELVIS
                How is abstinence unrealistic ??
                I'm guessing in your case it wasn't even by choice
                Originally posted by Kristy
                Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                Originally posted by cadaverdog
                I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                • Gmoney

                  #9
                  Too bad Hillary wasn't an abortion!

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                  • ELVIS
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 44120

                    #10
                    Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                    I'm guessing in your case it wasn't even by choice
                    I do practice abstinence, by choice...

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                    • LoungeMachine
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 32555

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ELVIS
                      I do practice abstinence, by choice...
                      Yes, but just not YOUR choice


                      That stinging pain you get in your eyes during sex, ELVIS........













                      It's just the pepper spray:p
                      Originally posted by Kristy
                      Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                      Originally posted by cadaverdog
                      I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                      • LoungeMachine
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 32555

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Gmoney
                        Too bad Hillary wasn't an abortion!
                        Hey, a Repulicant with bling.

                        gotta love it.
                        Originally posted by Kristy
                        Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                        Originally posted by cadaverdog
                        I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                        • ELVIS
                          Banned
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 44120

                          #13
                          Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                          Yes, but just not YOUR choice


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                          • Cathedral
                            ROTH ARMY ELITE
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 6618

                            #14
                            Originally posted by FORD
                            Hillary's not much better than the BCE, but in this case, the facts are on her side.

                            Abortions were declining during the 8 years of President Clinton's administration, and have increased under the BCE. Main reason?

                            IT'S THE ECONOMY, STUPID!!!!
                            No, the reason is that abortion is legal, stupid.
                            Another is that parents aren't properly teaching their kids about the responsibilities of a sexual relationship, and the list goes on.

                            But to place the blame on Bush?
                            That is totally laughable, and quite surprising to me that this shit even came out of Hillary's mouth.

                            She supports the right to choose, but again the blame isn't being placed where it belongs, On The Baby Killers Themselves.

                            I swear, if there is a way for a Democrat to avoid responsibility for their own party's positions, they'll use it.

                            I blame society as a whole, You, Me, Them, Everybody, for ever allowing the murder of a fetus to be considered a choice.

                            It's murder, and not the fault of a damn President, but the fault of the Supreme Court, Roe vs. Wade and the kids getting knocked up.
                            Their "choice" was to think they were adult enough to have sex.
                            And the convenience of getting an abortion, also the fact that they discard these kids like an old candy wrapper proves to me they were not adult enough to know how to pay for their mistakes in judgement.

                            Oh, but as Mrs.Boxer claimed that "A baby is not a baby until you bring it home" makes it ok to kill a living thing inside a womans body.

                            Some people just sicken me to no end, and that is a fact.

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                            • Nickdfresh
                              SUPER MODERATOR

                              • Oct 2004
                              • 49125

                              #15
                              Rest assured, there would still be plenty of abortions it it were made illegal.

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