Supreme Court justice urges Christians to live fearlessly

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • ELVIS
    Banned
    • Dec 2003
    • 44120

    Supreme Court justice urges Christians to live fearlessly

    By PENNY BROWN ROBERTS

    proberts@theadvocate.com

    Advocate staff writer


    Advocate staff photo by KERRY MALONEY

    U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia accepts a certificate Saturday from Mayor-President Kip Holden declaring Scalia Honorable Mayor-President of East Baton Rouge Parish. Scalia was the keynote speaker for the 100-year anniversary of the Knights of Columbus Baton Rouge Council 969.
    U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia said Saturday that people of faith should not fear being viewed by "educated circles" as "fools for Christ."
    The justice -- in Baton Rouge to address the Knights of Columbus Council 969 centennial celebration without charging a fee -- told a largely Roman Catholic crowd of 350 at the Holiday Inn Select that there's nothing wrong with "traditional Christianity."

    "To believe in traditional Christianity is something else," Scalia said. "For the son of God to be born of a virgin? I mean, really. To believe that he rose from the dead and bodily ascended into heaven? How utterly ridiculous. To believe in miracles? Or that those who obey God will rise from the dead and those who do not will burn in hell?

    "God assumed from the beginning that the wise of the world would view Christians as fools ... and he has not been disappointed."


    Scalia praised "traditional Catholics" who say the rosary, go on pilgrimages, kneel during the Eucharist and "follow religiously the teaching of the pope," adding that "intellect and reason need not be laid aside for religion. It is not irrational to accept the testimony of eyewitnesses who had nothing to gain. There is something wrong with rejecting a priori (deductively) the existence of miracles."

    The outspoken conservative justice -- known for his views on religion in America -- didn't shy from them during his visit to south Louisiana Saturday. He didn't discuss any specific issues before the high court, but did tell those in attendance they had "no greater model" for their faith than St. Thomas More.

    The Catholic martyr and considered the patron saint of lawyers, repudiated Martin Luther and refused to endorse King Henry VIII's plan to divorce Katherine of Aragon or recognize the king as the supreme head of the Church of England. More was found guilty of treason and beheaded in 1535.

    "I find it hard to understand people who revere Thomas More but who themselves selectively oppose the teachings of the pope," said Scalia, widely cited as a potential nominee for the position of chief justice when William Rehnquist leaves the bench.

    "If I have brought any message today, it is this: Have the courage to have your wisdom regarded as stupidity. Be fools for Christ. And have the courage to suffer the contempt of the sophisticated world."

    President Ronald named Scalia to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia in 1982. Four years later, Scalia was nominated and unanimously confirmed to the U.S. Supreme Court, taking the seat vacated when was elevated to the court's top post.

    The Catholic justice -- raised in the New York City Borough of Queens, and the father of nine children, one of them a priest -- has become an anti-abortion hero to many in the American political right and a leading conservative voice on the court.

    He has described himself as an "originalist," following the Constitution as written by the Founding Fathers, rather than interpreting it to reflect the changing times.

    In November, while speaking to an interfaith conference at a Manhattan synagogue, Scalia made headlines by saying that a religion-neutral government does not fit with an America that reflects belief in God in everything from its money to its military.

    More than a year ago, he removed himself from the Supreme Court's review of whether "under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance after mentioning the case in a speech and complaining that courts are stripping God from public life.

    Last year, Scalia cast one of two dissenting votes in a 7-2 Supreme Court ruling that states may deny taxpayer-funded scholarships to divinity students. And in 2000, he stood with a majority of the court in upholding the constitutionality of taxpayer funding for parochial school materials in a Jefferson Parish case.

    Louis McHardy, a Baton Rouge native who is retired executive director of the Nevada-based National Council of Juvenile and Family Court Judges, called Scalia "one of the nation's heroes."

    "His message to me is that our constitution is all-encompassing," said McHardy, who attended Saturday's banquet. "It takes into consideration all points of view."

    Rev. Miles Walsh, pastor of Our Lady of Mercy Church and Knights of Columbus chaplain, said Scalia's address convinced him that the justice is "committed to the transcendent principles he believes in."

    The Knights of Columbus Baton Rouge Council 969 was founded in January 1905 by 30 men who were charter members. The organization founded the LSU Catholic Center, and over the years has supported orphanages, mental health facilities and hospitals.



  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49136

    #2
    He sounds a little like a Jeffersonian Deist.

    Comment

    • FORD
      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

      • Jan 2004
      • 58754

      #3
      Who cares what that fascist Bush enabling destroyer of democracy thinks?
      Eat Us And Smile

      Cenk For America 2024!!

      Justice Democrats


      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

      Comment

      • ELVIS
        Banned
        • Dec 2003
        • 44120

        #4
        Hmmm...

        Comment

        • Vivian Campbell
          Head Fluffer
          • Oct 2004
          • 356

          #5
          One of the best speeches in a long time.
          The Fat Lady is singing for Van Hagar.

          http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/attac...&postid=392002

          Comment

          • ELVIS
            Banned
            • Dec 2003
            • 44120

            #6
            Actually, I read the first paragraph out of context when I posted the article...

            Justice Scalia did not slam Christianity...

            I agree, it's a very good speech...
            Last edited by ELVIS; 01-27-2005, 03:35 PM.

            Comment

            • FORD
              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

              • Jan 2004
              • 58754

              #7
              Only thing "good" about Scalia's rant here is that maybe it will wake up these so called "Christians" enough to realize that the BCE has used them, repeatedly, to win and/or steal elections, but they care nothing of the Religious Right agenda.

              Dick Cheney's gonna outlaw gay marraige? Not if he doesn't want his wife and his daughter ripping his pacemaker out of his chest.

              Junior's gonna stop abortion? BZZZT wrong. Prescott Bush was one of the founders of the "Eugenics" movement which gave birth (pardon the pun) to Planned Parenthood. Not to mention he paid for an abortion himself in the 70's.

              God speaks through a chimp?? And tells that chimp to break every one of His commandments?? yeah right.

              Scalia's more arrogant than Junior, and this proves it.
              Eat Us And Smile

              Cenk For America 2024!!

              Justice Democrats


              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

              Comment

              • ELVIS
                Banned
                • Dec 2003
                • 44120

                #8
                Actually, God speaks to and through anyone who truly listens...

                Comment

                • FORD
                  ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                  • Jan 2004
                  • 58754

                  #9
                  Elvis, see if you can find a song called "God in Louisiana" by Steve Jones. I think the lyrics speak for themselves.
                  Eat Us And Smile

                  Cenk For America 2024!!

                  Justice Democrats


                  "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

                  Comment

                  • Guitar Shark
                    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 7576

                    #10
                    Scalia is one fat ugly mofo.
                    ROTH ARMY MILITIA


                    Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
                    Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

                    Comment

                    • ELVIS
                      Banned
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 44120

                      #11
                      Originally posted by FORD
                      Elvis, see if you can find a song called "God in Louisiana" by Steve Jones. I think the lyrics speak for themselves.
                      Ok...

                      Comment

                      • Mezro
                        Full Member Status

                        • May 2004
                        • 4128

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ELVIS
                        Actually, God speaks to and through anyone who truly listens...
                        Everything I write comes directly from God.

                        Mezro...he just told me to call my penis Bluto...
                        Got me a date with a shaved Asian. I know, I know; I think it's fucked!

                        Comment

                        • Denny
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 400

                          #13
                          Re: Supreme Court justice urges Christians to live fearlessly

                          Originally posted by ELVIS
                          By PENNY BROWN ROBERTS

                          proberts@theadvocate.com

                          Advocate staff writer


                          Advocate staff photo by KERRY MALONEY

                          U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia accepts a certificate Saturday from Mayor-President Kip Holden declaring Scalia Honorable Mayor-President of East Baton Rouge Parish. Scalia was the keynote speaker for the 100-year anniversary of the Knights of Columbus Baton Rouge Council 969.
                          U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia said Saturday that people of faith should not fear being viewed by "educated circles" as "fools for Christ."
                          The justice -- in Baton Rouge to address the Knights of Columbus Council 969 centennial celebration without charging a fee -- told a largely Roman Catholic crowd of 350 at the Holiday Inn Select that there's nothing wrong with "traditional Christianity."

                          "To believe in traditional Christianity is something else," Scalia said. "For the son of God to be born of a virgin? I mean, really. To believe that he rose from the dead and bodily ascended into heaven? How utterly ridiculous. To believe in miracles? Or that those who obey God will rise from the dead and those who do not will burn in hell?

                          "God assumed from the beginning that the wise of the world would view Christians as fools ... and he has not been disappointed."


                          Scalia praised "traditional Catholics" who say the rosary, go on pilgrimages, kneel during the Eucharist and "follow religiously the teaching of the pope," adding that "intellect and reason need not be laid aside for religion. It is not irrational to accept the testimony of eyewitnesses who had nothing to gain. There is something wrong with rejecting a priori (deductively) the existence of miracles."

                          The outspoken conservative justice -- known for his views on religion in America -- didn't shy from them during his visit to south Louisiana Saturday. He didn't discuss any specific issues before the high court, but did tell those in attendance they had "no greater model" for their faith than St. Thomas More.

                          The Catholic martyr and considered the patron saint of lawyers, repudiated Martin Luther and refused to endorse King Henry VIII's plan to divorce Katherine of Aragon or recognize the king as the supreme head of the Church of England. More was found guilty of treason and beheaded in 1535.

                          "I find it hard to understand people who revere Thomas More but who themselves selectively oppose the teachings of the pope," said Scalia, widely cited as a potential nominee for the position of chief justice when William Rehnquist leaves the bench.

                          "If I have brought any message today, it is this: Have the courage to have your wisdom regarded as stupidity. Be fools for Christ. And have the courage to suffer the contempt of the sophisticated world."

                          President Ronald named Scalia to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia in 1982. Four years later, Scalia was nominated and unanimously confirmed to the U.S. Supreme Court, taking the seat vacated when was elevated to the court's top post.

                          The Catholic justice -- raised in the New York City Borough of Queens, and the father of nine children, one of them a priest -- has become an anti-abortion hero to many in the American political right and a leading conservative voice on the court.

                          He has described himself as an "originalist," following the Constitution as written by the Founding Fathers, rather than interpreting it to reflect the changing times.

                          In November, while speaking to an interfaith conference at a Manhattan synagogue, Scalia made headlines by saying that a religion-neutral government does not fit with an America that reflects belief in God in everything from its money to its military.

                          More than a year ago, he removed himself from the Supreme Court's review of whether "under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance after mentioning the case in a speech and complaining that courts are stripping God from public life.

                          Last year, Scalia cast one of two dissenting votes in a 7-2 Supreme Court ruling that states may deny taxpayer-funded scholarships to divinity students. And in 2000, he stood with a majority of the court in upholding the constitutionality of taxpayer funding for parochial school materials in a Jefferson Parish case.

                          Louis McHardy, a Baton Rouge native who is retired executive director of the Nevada-based National Council of Juvenile and Family Court Judges, called Scalia "one of the nation's heroes."

                          "His message to me is that our constitution is all-encompassing," said McHardy, who attended Saturday's banquet. "It takes into consideration all points of view."

                          Rev. Miles Walsh, pastor of Our Lady of Mercy Church and Knights of Columbus chaplain, said Scalia's address convinced him that the justice is "committed to the transcendent principles he believes in."

                          The Knights of Columbus Baton Rouge Council 969 was founded in January 1905 by 30 men who were charter members. The organization founded the LSU Catholic Center, and over the years has supported orphanages, mental health facilities and hospitals.



                          Frank Zappa wrote many songs about Republicans, Here are a couple of them.....


                          Jesus Think You're a Jerk

                          There's an ugly little wasel 'bout three-foot nine
                          Face puffed up from cryin' 'n lyin'
                          'Cause her sweet little hubby's
                          Suckin' prong part time
                          (In the name of The Lord)


                          Get a clue, little shrew
                          Oh yeah, oh yeah
                          Jesus thinks you're a jerk


                          Did he really choose Tammy to do His Work?
                          Robertson says that he's The One
                          Oh sure he is,
                          if Armageddon
                          Is your idea of family fun,
                          An' he's got some planned for you!
                          (Now, tell me that ain't true)


                          Now, what if Jimbo's slightly gay,
                          Will Pat let Jimbo get away?
                          Everything we've heard him say
                          Indicated that Jim must pay,
                          (And it just might hurt a bit)
                          But keep that money rollin' in,
                          'Cause Pat and naughty Jimbo
                          Can't get enough of it


                          Perhaps it's their idea
                          Of an Affirmative Action Plan
                          To give White Trash a 'special break';
                          Well, they took those Jeezo-bucks and ran
                          To the bank! To the bank! To the bank! To the bank!
                          And every night we can hear them thank
                          Their Buddy, up above
                          For sending down his love
                          (While you all smell the glove)


                          Jim and Pat should take a pole
                          (Right up each saintly glory-hole),
                          With tar and feathers too --
                          Just like they'd love to do to you


                          ('Cause they think you are bad --
                          And they are very mad)


                          'Cause some folks don't want prayer in school!


                          (We'd need an ark to survive the drool
                          Of Micro-publicans, raised on hate,
                          And 'Jimbo-Jimbo' when they graduate)


                          Conviced they are 'The Chosen Ones' --
                          And all their parents carry guns,
                          And hold them cards in the N.R.A.
                          (With their fingers on the triggers
                          When they kneel and pray)


                          With a Ku-Klux muu-muu
                          In the back of the truck,
                          If you ain't Born Again,
                          They wanna mess you up, screamin':
                          "No abortion, no-siree!"
                          "Life's too precious, can't you see!"
                          (What's that hangin' from the neighbor's tree?
                          Why, it looks like 'colored folks' to me --
                          Would THEY do THAT...seriously?)


                          Imagine if you will
                          A multi-millionaire Television Evangelist,
                          Saved from Korean Combat duty by his father, a U.S. Senator


                          Studied Law --
                          But is not qualified to practice it


                          Father of a "love child"
                          Who, in adulthood, hosts the remnants
                          Of papa's religious propaganda program


                          Claims not to be a "Faith Healer",
                          But has, in the past,
                          Dealt stearnly with everything from hemorrhoids to hurricanes


                          Involved with funding for a 'secret war' in Central America
                          Claiming Ronald Reagan and Oliver North as close friends


                          Involved in suspicous 'tax-avoidance schemes',
                          (Under investigation for 16 months by the I.R.S.)


                          Claims to be a MAN OF GOD;
                          Currenty seeking the United States Presidency,
                          Hoping we will all follow him into --
                          The Twilight Zone


                          What if Pat gets in the White House,
                          And suddenly --
                          The rights of 'certain people' disappear
                          Mysteriously?


                          Now, wouldn't that sort of qualify
                          As an American Tragedy?
                          (Especially if he covers it up, sayin'
                          "Jesus told it to me!")


                          I hope we never see that day,
                          In The Land of The Free --
                          Or someday will we?
                          Will we?


                          And if you don't know by now,
                          The truth of what I'm tellin' you,
                          Then, surely I have failed somehow --


                          And Jesus will think I'm a jerk, just like you --
                          If you let those TV Preachers
                          Make a monkey out of you!


                          I said:
                          "Jesus will think you're a jerk"
                          And it will be true!


                          There's an old rugged cross
                          In the land of cutton --
                          It's still burnin' on somebody's lawn
                          And it still smells rotten


                          Jim and Tammy!
                          Oh, baby!
                          You gotta go!
                          You really got to go!

                          and

                          When The Lies So Big

                          They got lies so big
                          They don't make a noise
                          They tell 'em so well
                          Like a secret disease
                          That makes you go numb


                          With a big ol' lie
                          And a flag and a pie
                          And a mom and a bible
                          Most folks are just liable
                          To buy any line
                          Any place, any time


                          When the lie's so big
                          As in Robertson's case,
                          (That sinister face
                          Behind all the Jesus hurrah)


                          Could result in the end
                          To a worrisome trend
                          In which every American
                          Not "born again"
                          Could be punished in cruel and unusual ways
                          By this treacherous cretin
                          Who tells everyone
                          That he's Jesus' best friend


                          When the lie's so big
                          And the fog gets so thick
                          And the facts disappear
                          The Republican Trick
                          Can be played out again
                          People, please tell me when
                          We'll be rid of these men!


                          Just who do they really
                          Suppose that they are?
                          And how did they manage to travel as far
                          As they seem to have come?
                          Were we really that dumb?


                          People, wake up
                          Figure it out
                          Religious fanatics
                          Around and about
                          The Court House, The State House,
                          The Congress, The White House


                          Criminal saints
                          With a "Heavenly Mission" --
                          A nation enraptured
                          By pure superstition


                          When the lie's so big
                          And the fog gets so thick
                          And the facts disappear
                          The Republican Trick
                          Can be played out again
                          People, please tell me when
                          We'll be rid of these men!

                          Comment

                          Working...