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FORD
01-28-2005, 05:55 PM
Letter to Congress on Increasing U.S. Ground Forces
January 28, 2005


Dear Senator Frist, Senator Reid, Speaker Hastert, and Representative Pelosi:

The United States military is too small for the responsibilities we are asking it to assume. Those responsibilities are real and important. They are not going away. The United States will not and should not become less engaged in the world in the years to come. But our national security, global peace and stability, and the defense and promotion of freedom in the post-9/11 world require a larger military force than we have today. The administration has unfortunately resisted increasing our ground forces to the size needed to meet today's (and tomorrow's) missions and challenges.

So we write to ask you and your colleagues in the legislative branch to take the steps necessary to increase substantially the size of the active duty Army and Marine Corps. While estimates vary about just how large an increase is required, and Congress will make its own determination as to size and structure, it is our judgment that we should aim for an increase in the active duty Army and Marine Corps, together, of at least 25,000 troops each year over the next several years.

There is abundant evidence that the demands of the ongoing missions in the greater Middle East, along with our continuing defense and alliance commitments elsewhere in the world, are close to exhausting current U.S. ground forces. For example, just late last month, Lieutenant General James Helmly, chief of the Army Reserve, reported that "overuse" in Iraq and Afghanistan could be leading to a "broken force." Yet after almost two years in Iraq and almost three years in Afghanistan, it should be evident that our engagement in the greater Middle East is truly, in Condoleezza Rice's term, a "generational commitment." The only way to fulfill the military aspect of this commitment is by increasing the size of the force available to our civilian leadership.

The administration has been reluctant to adapt to this new reality. We understand the dangers of continued federal deficits, and the fiscal difficulty of increasing the number of troops. But the defense of the United States is the first priority of the government. This nation can afford a robust defense posture along with a strong fiscal posture. And we can afford both the necessary number of ground troops and what is needed for transformation of the military.

And by WHAT numbers do you figure that, you Nazi pieces of shit??

In sum: We can afford the military we need. As a nation, we are spending a smaller percentage of our GDP on the military than at any time during the Cold War. We do not propose returning to a Cold War-size or shape force structure. We do insist that we act responsibly to create the military we need to fight the war on terror and fulfill our other responsibilities around the world.

Uh, WHAT "other responsibilities"?? Corporate enslavement of the human race, maybe??

The men and women of our military have performed magnificently over the last few years. We are more proud of them than we can say. But many of them would be the first to say that the armed forces are too small. And we would say that surely we should be doing more to honor the contract between America and those who serve her in war. Reserves were meant to be reserves, not regulars. Our regulars and reserves are not only proving themselves as warriors, but as humanitarians and builders of emerging democracies. Our armed forces, active and reserve, are once again proving their value to the nation. We can honor their sacrifices by giving them the manpower and the materiel they need.

Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution places the power and the duty to raise and support the military forces of the United States in the hands of the Congress. That is why we, the undersigned, a bipartisan group with diverse policy views,

Who the FUCK do you think you're kidding??

have come together to call upon you to act. You will be serving your country well if you insist on providing the military manpower we need to meet America's obligations, and to help ensure success in carrying out our foreign policy objectives in a dangerous, but also hopeful, world.


Respectfully,

Peter Beinart Jeffrey Bergner Daniel Blumenthal

Max Boot Eliot Cohen Ivo H. Daalder

Thomas Donnelly Michele Flournoy Frank F. Gaffney, Jr.

Reuel Marc Gerecht Lt. Gen. Buster C. Glosson (USAF, retired)

Bruce P. Jackson Frederick Kagan Robert Kagan

Craig Kennedy Paul Kennedy Col. Robert Killebrew (USA, retired)

William Kristol Will Marshall Clifford May

Gen. Barry R. McCaffrey (USA, retired) Daniel McKivergan

Joshua Muravchik Steven J. Nider Michael O'Hanlon

Mackubin Thomas Owens Ralph Peters Danielle Pletka

Stephen P. Rosen Major Gen. Robert H. Scales (USA, retired)

Randy Scheunemann Gary Schmitt

Walter Slocombe James B. Steinberg

FUCKING TRAITORS, every last one of you

link (http://www.newamericancentury.org/defense-20050128.htm)

Big Train
01-28-2005, 07:04 PM
What are you so "shocked" about? We all knew if we got involved with this it was going to be what we do for a generation. Spare me your false outrage..

You don't like the man, you don't like the call he has made, but don't pretend you don't understand the practical realities of the situation..

FORD
01-28-2005, 07:18 PM
I'll be goddamned if I'm gonna let these lying criminal bastards wage a false war for profit for the rest of my natural fucking life. Be it impeachment, or be it civil war, this fascism WILL NOT STAND.

Big Train
01-28-2005, 07:25 PM
Well whatever, don't just put out this bullshit "suprise" that they made the request..

Do what you gotta do, but it ain't gonna change a thing..

FORD
01-28-2005, 07:38 PM
No, not as long as sheep like yourself perpetuate the lie.

If I told you that the Cold War with the Soviets could have ended in the mid 70's but that it was kept alive - articificially - by Wolfoshitz, Rummy, and Cheney, would you believe it?

The current situation is even more ridiculously inflated than that one was. There is NO world wide terrorist group, period. Small pockets of terrorists in third world countries, sure. All of whom are concerned with local struggles, and couldn't give two royal desert shits about the "Great Satan" until PNAC starts bombing the shit out of them.

If you choose to live under this lie, move to Israel with the traitorous bastards who came up with it. My country isn't going to be destroyed by a fucking LIE.

Knucklebones
01-28-2005, 07:56 PM
Here's my proposition, everyone who supports the war, has to go to Iraq themselves, or have a child in Iraq.


I don't see a problem with this because it's what they want according to what they say.


I think also think the internet messageboard war supporters should be drafted into the marines.

ELVIS
01-28-2005, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by FORD
I'll be goddamned if I'm gonna let these lying criminal bastards wage a false war for profit for the rest of my natural fucking life. Be it impeachment, or be it civil war, this fascism WILL NOT STAND.

Maybe 10,000 more posts on ten more message boards will stop them...

Nickdfresh
01-28-2005, 08:03 PM
I don't have a problem with more troops, Kerry wanted to expand the Army by 40,000.

My motto is: more troops, less wars. Because the military is going to damaged by this one for years to come.

Big Train
01-28-2005, 08:04 PM
Knucklehead,

Thanks for your proposition. I also propose all whiny college kids that are against it should be forced to go to Iraq to report what's going on from the front lines. Get embedded and run your mouth...

Knucklebones
01-28-2005, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
I don't have a problem with more troops, Kerry wanted to expand the Army by 40,000.

My motto is: more troops, less wars. Because the military is going to damaged by this one for years to come.


True, but I think the people who want it most, should be the ones doing the most :D


Come on Big Train, hurry up and go. Support you leader man. Come on dude, I know you're like a true patriot and all. Hurry up and go die for Bush and Dick and all those people you admire. Don't worry if you get mentally scarred by accidentally killing some little kid, you were just supporting Bush.


I don't really have reason to go, seeing how i'm against having people getting their heads blown off and all, but you seem to want it very much.

Big Train
01-29-2005, 03:34 AM
I LOVE how you seem to know what I'm thinking Knucklehead.

You don't have reason to go stop the insanity? You and Ford can ship out in the AM to be "journalists". If your so against Americans fighting in this war, nut up, get over there and protest. I believe in our armed forces and what they are doing. Obviously, you don't, big fucking deal. Yes, I am a true patriot thanks for pointing that out.

You have no idea how I feel towards Bush and Cheney and you don't seem to have the intellegence to ask any questions of merit. So just keep on blasting with your retarded oversimplified notions..it's what they taught you in class, I know...

Knucklebones
01-29-2005, 06:37 AM
Hey, is it a crime to not want my head blown off, like you want all those other people to?


Well if you want other people to have their heads blown off, that would mean because you want it yourself right? Or are you just a asshole?



So off to the marines with you.


I'm not the one that wants to meddle in Iraq, YOU ARE. Now stfu please?


Cmon, Mr.Big Bad Kicker of Iraqi Ass, go kick some Iraqi butt for us. Hurry up you damn war hero.

Big Train
01-29-2005, 12:21 PM
Where do you come up with this bullshit? Who is saying I'm an asskicker, I'm dying to get my head blown off etc...

I believe in what the armed forces are there for. Why you need to participate is beyond me. Apparently, in your 19 year old mind, this is some sort of mental chinese finger trap, as you harp on it relentlessly. All those years of schooling your parents paid for and this is the closest you can come to an original thought?

Or are you just an asshole?

ELVIS
01-29-2005, 12:29 PM
Probably a combination of the two...

DLR'sCock
01-29-2005, 01:43 PM
This is not surprising........War without end.....imperialism without end....

Empires Rise, Empires Fall....



Humanity has so much to learn from, yet so few actually learn the lessons of the past...

ELVIS
01-29-2005, 01:50 PM
Your wisdom is so enlightening...:rolleyes:

DLR'sCock
01-29-2005, 03:21 PM
You are not surprising....

ELVIS
01-29-2005, 03:45 PM
I never claimed to be...

Look, Cock...

Do some research, and form an original thought...

BigBadBrian
01-29-2005, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by DLR'sCock
You are not surprising....

The Poet Laureate of the Roth Army Frontline you are not, Cock. Spare us your gobbledy gook and say something or close your piehole. :gulp:

BigBadBrian
01-29-2005, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by Knucklebones
Here's my proposition, everyone who supports the war, has to go to Iraq themselves, or have a child in Iraq.


I don't see a problem with this because it's what they want according to what they say.


I think also think the internet messageboard war supporters should be drafted into the marines.

Boy, that's some enlightened thinking right there. :rolleyes:

ELVIS
01-29-2005, 04:23 PM
:D

Knucklebones
01-29-2005, 06:44 PM
No actually, my family is no where near rich, and I was a public school kid.

BigBadBrian
01-29-2005, 09:03 PM
http://www.strangepolitics.com/images/content/103936.jpg

FORD
01-29-2005, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
http://www.strangepolitics.com/images/content/103936.jpg

It ain't the liberals who are ignoring the fact that current events reflect the hisory of the late 1930's. :(

Nickdfresh
01-29-2005, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
http://www.strangepolitics.com/images/content/103936.jpg

You mean like Vietnam. Yeah, a lot of people never learned that lesson.:rolleyes: