Dean Seeks Media Blackout, Changes Mind

[ELVIS]

Associated Press (http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-dean-media-blackout,0,6186251,print.story?coll=sns-ap-nationworld-headlines)

February 17, 2005


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PORTLAND, Ore. -- Howard Dean, the new chairman of the Democratic National Committee, requested a media blackout of a debate with top Pentagon adviser Richard Perle, then quickly changed his mind Wednesday after news agencies complained.

"DNC Chair Howard Dean has declared a news blackout of his appearance and requested the media not quote, record, and/or paraphrase his remarks," event coordinator Gabrielle Williams wrote in an e-mail sent to news agencies Wednesday morning. "We apologize for the late notice, but we were just informed of this request."

Less than two hours later, Williams called to say: "We were told just a few minutes ago that it is now open" for media coverage. The decision to open Thursday's debate came roughly 30 minutes after an inquiry by The Associated Press.

Dean spokeswoman Laura Gross said Dean had decided the event would be closed before he was elected DNC chairman Saturday, but changed his mind because of his new job.

"Some speeches are open, some speeches are closed. He decided months ago that this speech would be closed. We're in transition. Now he's the DNC chair -- and so we needed to have this changed," Gross said.

Perle, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld's top policy adviser, is a key architect of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, and Dean is among the war's most prominent opponents.

Perle said that he was surprised to learn that the press had been barred from covering the debate.

"It seems quite extraordinary that the chairman of the Democratic National Committee would not want the public coverage of this debate," said Perle, a resident fellow at the conservative American Enterprise Institute.

Don Walker, president of the Harry Walker Agency, which represents Dean on the lecture circuit, said that many of the talks it is associated with are closed to the press -- and it's up to the individual speaker to decide whether he or she wants them to be open. "We default to a closed press policy," he said.

Meanwhile Wednesday, Dean called on the head of New York's Republican Party to apologize or resign over remarks linking the Democrats to a civil rights lawyer convicted of aiding terrorists.

Dean called Stephen Minarik's comments offensive and said, "The American people deserve better than this type of political character assassination."

On Monday, Minarik said that Dean's election shows that "the Democrats simply have refused to learn the lessons of the past two election cycles, and now they can be accurately called the party of Barbara Boxer, Lynne Stewart and Howard Dean."

Stewart is a New York City lawyer convicted last week of helping terrorists by smuggling messages from one of her imprisoned clients, a radical Egyptian sheik, to his terrorist disciples on the outside. Boxer is a Democratic senator from California.

Among Minarik's critics is Republican New York Gov. George Pataki, who said Tuesday that his remark was not "within the realm of appropriate political discourse."

Minarik issued a statement Wednesday saying "it is not the Republican Party's problem that these far-left activists have made their home in the Democratic party."


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[FORD]

Howard Dean is a patriotic American trying to to restore this once great nation.

Richard Perle is a Likud spy and a traitor who is trying to destroy this country for the benefit of corporatist profits and Likud's fucked up interpretation of an Old Testament scripture regarding God's promise to Abraham and his children (key word there - plural. Abe had TWO)

Therefore no debate is neccessary, since Perle is WRONG period, but that doesn't mean Dean won't enjoy kicking his traitor ass.

[Warham]

Yeah, he's a racist patriot.

Dean had a mental blackout last Friday. It's pretty common for him.

[Nickdfresh]

And the Neo Con mudslinging/character assassination rolls on. I think an independent counsel needs to be appointed to investigate this. Funny how I haven't heard anything in the media about this.

I was wondering how stupid and knit-picky how we are going to be about all things Dean.

[Nickdfresh]

Shoe tossed at ex-Pentagon adviser during debate

Richard Perle, Howard Dean trade barbs

Friday, February 18, 2005 Posted: 8:19 AM EST (1319 GMT)
Perle stands at the podium while a shoe (highlighted) is tossed in his direction.

PORTLAND, Oregon (AP) -- Howard Dean, the newly minted leader of the Democratic Party, and former Pentagon adviser Richard Perle made clear their opposing views on the war in Iraq during a debate marred by a protester who tossed a shoe at Perle.

Perle had just started his comments Thursday when a protester threw a shoe at him before being dragged away, screaming, "Liar! Liar!"

Perle, who was Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld's top policy adviser, was a key architect of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, and Dean is among the war's most prominent opponents.

In his new role as chairman of the Democratic National Committee, Dean has stressed that Democrats are stronger than Republicans on defense.

"Defense is a lot broader than swaggering around saying you're going to kick Saddam's butt," Dean said Thursday, drawing cheers from the crowd in this city that overwhelmingly voted Democratic last November.

Perle said the war in Iraq was justified based on the intelligence available at the time. "Sometimes the things we have to do are objectionable to others," he said.

Dean also said the Bush administration has ignored the mounting threat in Iran and North Korea. "We picked the low hanging fruit in Iraq and did nothing" about the other, more dangerous regimes, he said.

Perle had his own barbs, too. He began his opening comments in the 11/2-hour debate by saying Democrats "looked at the Democratic Party and chose a physician to lead them."

Perle, a veteran of the Reagan administration and a former Pentagon adviser, was forced by one of the questioners to recast a comment he made on September 22, 2003, in which he predicted that within one year, there would be "a grand square in Baghdad named for President Bush."

"I'd be a fool not to recognize that it did not happen on the schedule I had in mind," Perle said, adding that he did not deny that the administration had made mistakes in Iraq.
Defense is a lot broader than swaggering around saying you're going to kick Saddam's butt.
-- Howard Dean


But, Perle added, "I will be surprised, yet again, if we do not see a square in Baghdad named after this president." He did not specify a time.

Dean became chairman of the DNC earlier this month. The former governor of Vermont had been leading the race for the Democratic presidential nomination but failed last January in the Iowa caucuses. His candidacy sparked interest among young voters and attracted millions of dollars, largely through the Internet.

Thursday's debate was part of the annual forum held by Pacific University to honor Tom McCall, a former Republican governor of Oregon.
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[diamondD]

FORD, you make a road trip to Oregon yesterday? ;)

[FORD]

Originally posted by diamondD
FORD, you make a road trip to Oregon yesterday? ;)

I wish :(

I had so many things scheduled yesterday, I only managed to get to about 1/3 of them as it is. No way I could have dumped it all and go to Portland.

Hopefully they run this debate on C-SPAN this weekend.

And I wouldn't have thrown a shoe at that fucking traitor Perle anyway. Size 15's ain't that easy to find!

[diamondD]

LOL! :D

[Warham]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
And the Neo Con mudslinging/character assassination rolls on. I think an independent counsel needs to be appointed to investigate this. Funny how I haven't heard anything in the media about this.

I was wondering how stupid and knit-picky how we are going to be about all things Dean.

You won't hear anything in the mainstream media about it. Know why? The mainstream media is LEFT, unlike what Ford and his ilk will tell you.

[FORD]

Originally posted by Warham
You won't hear anything in the mainstream media about it. Know why? The mainstream media is LEFT, unlike what Ford and his ilk will tell you.

Which mainstream media is that?

CBS' new anchor Bob Schieffer is the brother of the BCE ambassador to Japan.

NBC's new anchor Brian Williams is described by GOP party officials as their new "go to guy".

Peter Jennings? Well he may try, But Eisner the Mickey Mouse Fascist ain't letting him say much.

CNN is technically WORSE than FAUX these days, because FAUX has given up all pretense of being anything other than a BCE propaganda outlet. CNN still has the history of it's former self, though anybody with functional eyes and ears can tell you it ain't Ted Turner's network anymore. Few corporations on this earth are more right wing than AOL. Colin Powell, his censorship loving, media whore enabling son, and Charlton "take your hands off my guns you goddamn dirty ape" Heston have all been board members.

Newspaper companies - Murdoch, Tribune, Gannett, Hearst - all right wing.

Other than Air America - which itself might be influenced too much by the DLC corporatist moles - I'm not seeing much of a LEFT media. Or even a fair media.

Instead I'm seeing a fascist propaganda system that Hitler and Stalin would have each killed another 12 million people for.

[BigBadBrian]

FORD, you make a hell of a case....but it's all BULLSHIT! :D

DAN RATHERbiased tried to get Kerry elected. 'nuff said.


Bottoms Up! :gulp:

[Cathedral]

I like Dean right where he is. The more he speaks the better it will be for all of us. :)

[FORD]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
FORD, you make a hell of a case....but it's all BULLSHIT! :D

DAN RATHERbiased tried to get Kerry elected. 'nuff said.


Bottoms Up! :gulp:

Well, as it turns out, those National Guard papers that entrapped poor Dan were most likely planted by the BCE themselves. And even America's newest gay porn sweetheart Jeffy Boy might have been involved.

I'll have more details on that as the story develops, but basically Dan was set up. I'm still wondering how they forced Brokaw out. Threatened him with anthrax again, maybe?

[ELVIS]

Originally posted by FORD
Well, as it turns out, those National Guard papers that entrapped poor Dan were most likely planted by the BCE themselves.

Come on!

You need to learn to count to 10 before you post...:D

That's just plain silly...

[Warham]

Come on FORD.

Dan Rather isn't even a pimple on the BCE's ass. He made his own pile, and now he's gotta lie in it.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
FORD, you make a hell of a case....but it's all BULLSHIT! :D

DAN RATHERbiased tried to get Kerry elected. 'nuff said.


Bottoms Up! :gulp:

And who was FOX n' Friends trying to get elected? Talk radio with Rush? Who was Limbaugh and the Rush clone crew singing the praises of?

[Warham]

Limbaugh is not a news organization. Limbaugh is a commentator, not a news anchor who is supposed to deliver accurate NEWS, not his personal opinion.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
Limbaugh is not a news organization. Limbaugh is a commentator, not a news anchor who is supposed to deliver accurate NEWS, not his personal opinion.

But people get their news from him. He is able to be partisan because the equal time law was revoked in 1987.

[Warham]

Please! People who listen to Limbaugh know he's RIGHT. Of course his reading of the news is going to come from a conservative angle. Rather has no such excuse, as CBS news is supposedly right down the middle, with no bias.

Rather poor excuse, Nick. So does this apply to that goon Al Franken too?

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
Please! People who listen to Limbaugh know he's RIGHT. Of course his reading of the news is going to come from a conservative angle. Rather has no such excuse, as CBS news is supposedly right down the middle, with no bias.

Rather poor excuse, Nick. So does this apply to that goon Al Franken too?

Or Fox? Or MSNBC? Or Clearchannel? And how exactly is is the news so biased, the Bush Papers not withstanding? I mean because they report all the good news form Iraq even though the attacks continue to increase and the insurgency continues despite our best efforts.

[Warham]

It's good somebody reports good news from Iraq. You'd think it was the Apocalypse over there the way some of the networks picture it.

Yeah, it must ALL be bad news coming from over there. There must not be anything good going on in Iraq, right?

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
It's good somebody reports good news from Iraq. You'd think it was the Apocalypse over there the way some of the networks picture it.

Yeah, it must ALL be bad news coming from over there. There must not be anything good going on in Iraq, right?

No.

[FORD]

Originally posted by Warham
Come on FORD.

Dan Rather isn't even a pimple on the BCE's ass. He made his own pile, and now he's gotta lie in it.

To the contrary.... the BCE's animosity towards Dan Rather goes back a long ways. Here's a hint... Dan got his start as a TV reporter in Dallas.

[ELVIS]

Yeah...

Prescott Bush probably bankrolled some impossible conspiracy against Grandaddy Rather too...:rolleyes: