Australian Football

[Panamark]

Originally posted by BOMBER
That's tipping suicide this year mate.
The Bombers have let me down on occassions this year also for my tips.I've tipped them all bar twice this year.

No Crap !

Im so insane Im actually thinking of tipping them again
this week agains the Weagles in Perth !! Heheheh..

Its hard tipping against your team, even when they are
down...

[MAX]

BOMBER,

Mate, your pm box tis' full and I shot you an email as well.

[Halen High]

Come on Panamark, jump off the Blues and start your big comeback!

(Funny if they win and you don't tip them for the first time!)

[BOMBER]

Originally posted by MAX
BOMBER,

Mate, your pm box tis' full and I shot you an email as well.
Howdy mate,it's great to see you back in the AFL thread,stranger.
So the Bombers hit a rough patch and you decided to bail,hey mate?;)
Mate,don't go anywhere the Bombers are about to begin the march to glory.:cool:
I'll get my hand off it now.

[MAX]

Bomber,

Mate, I never left. I was just sucking so badly....... Well, I dunno? lol.

[BOMBER]

Originally posted by MAX
Bomber,

Mate, I never left. I was just sucking so badly....... Well, I dunno? lol.
You are a true Bomber then.:)
That analysis sounds exactly like Essendon's season so far.

[MAX]

Yup. ;)

[Panamark]

Onya Maximus !!!

Lets see how ya go this week !!

[Halen High]

Originally posted by BOMBER
Wow,I'm not doing my tips until thursday but from the looks of it we are going to have a hell of alot of games different.What a cracker of a round of football.
The Saints have had a shitload of injuries in fairness,however great sides need to have depth.

Yep, this round is going to very interesting.
I could end up with a 1 or 2 BUWAHAHA!
I don't usually watch Port games but tonight should be a great game.
I reckon Freo are a chance for an upset and Carlton can't keep losing so anything could happen.

[Halen High]

Er ...... by the way, where's everyone's tips?

Come on Panamark, just tip the Eagles and send 'em in.

[BOMBER]

Here we go - Maggies
- Tiges
- Eagles
- Bombers
- Lions
- Crows
- Cats
- Bullfrogs

[Panamark]

Port
Blues
Swans
Brisbane
Bombers
Crows
Doggies
Cats

[Panamark]

Well us Cellar Dwellers put in our usual performance, hey BOMBER !

I think HH is the only one enjoying this season :D

[BOMBER]

Originally posted by Panamark
Well us Cellar Dwellers put in our usual performance, hey BOMBER !

I think HH is the only one enjoying this season :D
I'm oficially waving the white flag now,that effort on saturday night from us was pathetic.I don't know how we could play so well the week before and then put up something as horrendous as that a week later?
:mad:
H'High would have to be stoked with the Crows so far,however they had the fright of their lives in that last quarter with Freo.
Carlton were in front at half time and apparently kicked 1 point in the 3rd to the Eagles 10 goals.:confused:

[BOMBER]

H'High - 5 (52)
Bomber - 6 (49)
P'Mark - 3 (41)

[Halen High]

Yep, enjoying the season so far. I didn't think we'd make the 8 now we look like potential ...... Grand Finalists!!!

I thought Freo were gonna pinch it though. And how good is Pavlich? Imagine him in good side.

Now for my Round 15 picks (this should be interesting);

Kangaroos
Port
Essendon
Brisbane
Sydney
Crows
CARLTON!!!
Freo

[Panamark]

G'day Guys !

I swear, I thought I was going to get 0 winners this week !! LOL..
I was wondering if you get awarded the magic 7 points if you
can actually not pick one winner..

I think the Swans should have got up..

I have no idea where the Carlton football team was in that third
quarter, but if somebody finds out, can they please send an
urgent fax to Denis Pagan ! :D

What a dillema ? Surely they must be looking at the ladder and
thinking, fuckit, we cant get into the finals, and we need some
prime draft picks to be competitive next year, *BUT* we want
to show the fans we are trying..

Who would be a coach ???

Seriously (As a die hard Blues fan) I hope they take the foot
off the pedal... Theres no point in us busting our guts to win
a few last games only to hand Hawthorn or Essendon the
prime picks..

As Halen High pointed out, its a crap system rewarding medicority,
but it is the system, and any system you must take advantage of..

HH, you tipped Carlton this week ???

Im worried now, they might win.. Fuck the Hawks !! We want the
draft picks !!! :p

[Panamark]

BOMBER, I believe there is a point that Essendon will internally wave
that flag too.. However I think it will be if you lose this week....
I assume then its pretty much mathematically impossible to make
the eight. Sheedy at that point would be wise enough to rotate
the young uns to give em some game time, and look towards
the draft. Just like Carlton.

[BOMBER]

What a finals series for you Panamark and myself.
We won't even be able to stir each other up.
I'm looking forward to the Ashes starting up more than ever now.

[BOMBER]

P'Mark - I hate to be rude mate but I have to fly,it's just hit 5 here mate.I'll catch you tomorrow.
I agree with you on the Bombers mate.

[Panamark]

Take care mate !!

[BOMBER]

Had to laugh at the tribunal last night.
Didak went up to contest his one match suspesion and walked out with a 2 match suspension.This new tribunal set up has everybody scratching their heads.
P'Mark,do you think the Blues can roll the Saints with all the Saints injuries?

[Panamark]

I wouldnt put money on it, but if the Blues apply themselves for four quarters,
I think they could ! But I havent seen them play four quarters
of consistent football for a long time. Plus I dont see where the
motivation will come from ?? Really they should be concentrating on
finishing last and blooding as much youth as possible..

(That sucks, I know)

I will tip them as per usual...

I would be surprised if they win.

[BOMBER]

Eagles
Bombers
Power
Lions
Swans
Hawks
Saints
Bullfrogs

[Panamark]

Eagles
Richmond (Unless Essendon from 2 weeks ago shows up !!)
Port
Lions
Swans
Crows
Blues
Dockers

[Panamark]

Shit Hey !! Apart from my loyal Blues vote, a clean sweep this week..
Dont laugh, but when I heard that Hawthorn lost, I wanted Carlton
to lose. If they beat the Saints they would have moved up a rung.

Fuck giving up the Draft picks now.. Take it easy Blues !
Next year, Next year !!

And as predicted, the Bombers have officially waved the white flag
too now..

http://bombersfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=214194

So it looks like its up to your mob now Halen High..
Im probably going to follow Richmond, The Saints (if they make it)
or my adopted home side, Sydney now...

Hard to see anyone topping the Weagles though, Although they
might choke like Port did for those few years !!

[BOMBER]

That's it,our season is over half way through winter.
You guys are going to have to help me out,what does a fan of a club do when they are in this situation?
It's been 8 years and I've forgotten.
I'll be going for the Crows in September,there last quarters are starting to look like ours a bit though,which is a little bit of a concern for them.

[Panamark]

I think I can help ya mate! Ive been suffering this affliction for a
bit longer than you. The things we know. (No Bullshit)

- The current form slump is not forever
- The team is rebuilding
- Checkout your team's VFL progress (Good indicator for those that are
about to step up) and its great to see your teams grassroots.
- Take heart that you will have some choice midfielders next year
- Young players are inconsisent.
- Dont watch games expecting to win, watch them as a coach, look at
which players are improving, falling back, and especially the young
ones who are improving. (Make this the focus, instead of the win)
- Enjoy the passages of play that demonstrate things can and will
work again.

Lastly and most importantly.

- Essendon and Carlton are the greatest ever teams in recorded
history !

- Follow your second team, if they are going to make it into the 8.

Hope that helps mate ! ;)

These things have helped me !

[BOMBER]

P'Mark - 7 (48)
H'High - 5 (57)
Bomber - 5 (54)

[SweetSecrets]

I love you Mark. :)

[BOMBER]

Originally posted by Panamark
I think I can help ya mate! Ive been suffering this affliction for a
bit longer than you. The things we know. (No Bullshit)

- The current form slump is not forever
- The team is rebuilding
- Checkout your team's VFL progress (Good indicator for those that are
about to step up) and its great to see your teams grassroots.
- Take heart that you will have some choice midfielders next year
- Young players are inconsisent.
- Dont watch games expecting to win, watch them as a coach, look at
which players are improving, falling back, and especially the young
ones who are improving. (Make this the focus, instead of the win)
- Enjoy the passages of play that demonstrate things can and will
work again.

Lastly and most importantly.

- Essendon and Carlton are the greatest ever teams in recorded
history !

- Follow your second team, if they are going to make it into the 8.

Hope that helps mate ! ;)

These things have helped me !
Cheers mate.:cool:
I especially liked reading the point on how Essendon and Carlton are the greatest ever teams in recorded history.
They can't take that away from us.:)

[Halen High]

Panamark 7! The comeback begins.

I think the Crows can go all the way, but the forward line is still a question mark.

Round 16:
Bombers
Geelong
Saints
Brisbane
Melbourne
Crows
Carlton
Kangaroos

[Halen High]

Originally posted by BOMBER
Cheers mate.:cool:
I especially liked reading the point on how Essendon and Carlton are the greatest ever teams in recorded history.
They can't take that away from us.:)

In AFL history or VFL history?

Come on you guys it's a national comp now.

By the way, did you guys see Tyson Edwards all-time most obvious deliberate out of bounds on the weekend that was not given? Just stood there and hand balled it straight over the line from about 5m. The ump runs in and says throw it in. And what about all the 50m penalties? For a few words or just grabbing a guy for a second on the mark. Then they let it go for the rest of the game. I give up.

[BOMBER]

VFL history is still the history of the strongest football comp in Australia.
Mate,50 metre penalties are our speciality down at Essendon,just ask Dean Solomon.I seriously don't think the umpires like us very much at Essendon after Hirdy's comments against McLaren on the footy show.
Those comments were right,McLaren is beyond a joke as an umpire and throw Goldspink in also who loves the attention and grandstands every single game he umpires.

[Halen High]

The umpires and some of the rules they are asked to interpret are ruining the game. The 50m penalty should be thrown out. 50m for saying "you're bloody kidding". The AFL Commision is trying to make footy the cleanest most respectable code. They're terrified of what the Americans call 'The Soccer Mums'. They are going too far and in the process making footy VERY frustrating to watch.

I agree that the VFL is the strongest comp in the history of the sport, but I think the records for AFL premierships should begin with either the Swans starting in Sydney, or Brisbane or West Coast joining the comp.

Then again, there is an argument that the interstate teams simply joined the VFL, which could explain why the Victorian based clubs still set the agenda off the field.

[Panamark]

Ive long believed that some umpires get "starstruck" and its definately
to the home teams advantage when you get an umpire such inclined.

The umpires "play" to the crowd. If you have 40,000 supporters of
one team there and 2000 opposition fans, you will be loudly applauded
for every decision you give to the home team. I really believe some
umpies get off on this...


As for these dodgy 50 metres and deliberate out of bounds rules,
All of these rules would be fine if they were consistent in
their interpretation, but the buggers never are !!

One rule that I actually think has made a great improvement
to the game is the new holding the ball rule. If you have prior
oppurtunity and dont dispose of it, Your'e Gone !!
This has been terrific, notice how much more free flowing the
game is. The ball gets flung out of packs or tackles quickly
now instead of being bunched in.. I reckon its great..

[BOMBER]

Bombers (I don't think we will win really,but hey it's fucking Collingwood)
Cats
Saints
Swans
Eagles
Dockers
Crows
Kangas

[Panamark]

Ah that time of the week again !

Pies (Sorry BOMBER, after last week, just cant see it)
Tigers
CATS
Swans
Weagles
Crows
BLUES (although I hope they lose !, I want the number one draft picks now !! )
ROOS

[BOMBER]

There calling tomorrow Super Saturday with all the games being played having a major outcome on the final 8.
It will be good now that we can't get in to just sit back and watch some great footy without sweating on outcomes.
I'm still going tonight to watch our kids in action.

[Panamark]

Good luck, I would like to see Essendon win, but after hearing
Sheedy physically conceeding, you would think he will be now
using the remainder of the season to test the younger blokes
out and see which of the older brigade deserve to be there
next year..

Should be an interesting game, both teams are coming off
embarrasing defeats.. More I think of it, its probably a toss
of the coin job this one. Go the Bombers !!

It kinda sucks though, with the Pies and Bombers locked on
points, the Bombers would move up a rung, and be another
step away from the best picks...

I guess its good in a way, if you lose you can console yourself
that you are in a good position for draft selections, and if you
win, you get that natural winning enjoyment you love so much,
(albeit with a tinge of too little to late)

Ah footy !!

Its a roller coaster of emotion when you are rebuilding, thats
for sure !

[Panamark]

BOMBER !!! What the hell are you guys doing giving your draft picks to Collingwood !! :D

[BOMBER]

Jesus,I finally picked 8 winners in a round.
Great win by our kids on friday night,there's no doubt about it,our future looks bright.

[BOMBER]

Originally posted by Panamark
BOMBER !!! What the hell are you guys doing giving your draft picks to Collingwood !! :D
Trust me,they need them more than us if friday night is any indication on where both clubs are at.
Blues were ok yesterday,that's the best they've put up for weeks.
Should be a blockbuster this week with Carlton playing Hawthorn.;)

[BOMBER]

Bomber - 9 (63)
H'High - 5 (62)
P'Mark - 5 (53)

[Panamark]

Originally posted by BOMBER
Trust me,they need them more than us if friday night is any indication on where both clubs are at.
Blues were ok yesterday,that's the best they've put up for weeks.
Should be a blockbuster this week with Carlton playing Hawthorn.;)

In all seriousness, I hope Carlton puts in a decent performance but
"allows" Hawthorn to win. Much like the game against the dockers.
I lost count of the amount of positives I witnessed in that game,
and was happy that we didnt compromise our posistion.

Kicking 17 goals, 10 different goal scorers and some excellent returns
from injury. Some very good signs for the baby Blues. Add the
prime draft picks next season to this list, and we really will have
(for the first time since the harshest penalties in the history
of the AFL) the building blocks completed.

My wish is that they repeat their efforts of this week, but let the
Hawks take the points. The season is a dead rubber now, may aswell
milk the system for the best players....

To be honest Im surprised at Essendon's win, then again, perhaps
Malthouse wants earlier draft selections ;) You guys could win
every game now, finish one game out of the eight and go into next
season with limited new options.... As an Essendon supporter, I
wouldnt want that.

Its hard to say you are actually comfortable with losing, but there
is a point where the season is dead and you start planning for
the next. Sheedy has already admitted this, so Im surprised he
gave the points (draft) to Collingwood.

[BOMBER]

Mate,after friday nights game I've completely swung into a positive frame of mind on the Bombers.I haven't been this positive in ages.
Last year over summer we were predicted to do shithouse this year and then lost every game pre-season including the wizard cup.This bad form continued into the main part of the season.
Our kids hadn't really shown anything but now are really starting to come on.Stanton has turned into a very good player already and Kepler Bradley looks the goods,Monfries and Dyson look good also.
They all stood up without alot of experienced players out there on friday night.There will be more of a buzz come pre-season this year about us doing well in 06.

[Panamark]

Dont worry mate, you will be back down to earth next week again, Im sure ! :)

[BOMBER]

Originally posted by Panamark
Dont worry mate, you will be back down to earth next week again, Im sure ! :)
No way mate,we've got an easy one up at the Gabba with those meek Lions.;)

[Panamark]

LOL :D

Well I guess it will be a good benchmark for you, playing a team that
wants to win and can make the finals (Brisbane at home) as opposed
to one that knows the season is over. (Collingwood)

[BOMBER]

Originally posted by Panamark
LOL :D

Well I guess it will be a good benchmark for you, playing a team that
wants to win and can make the finals (Brisbane at home) as opposed
to one that knows the season is over. (Collingwood)
We beat the Saints mate.
It's all good mate,we're both looking toward 06 now.:)

[Panamark]

You know what, perhaps Sheeds has done the reverse maths too.
As in they cant drop much lower than they are now, even if they lose
every game. In that scenario, its better to try and win, to gain
momentum for next year.. The draft picks from 12th as opposed
to 10th (most likely finishing position if the Bombers win a few)
probably doesnt warrant taking the foot off the pedal. Sheedy
is one smart cat, Im sure he knows whats going down in that
respect...

They sure looked like they were trying against the Pies. I think
they let Collingwood back in a bit though, they should have
won by 60 points. Collingwood were pathetic for 3/4.

[BOMBER]

West Coast gained momentum from finishing well last year,this is what I'm hoping happens.I'm not comparing us to West Coast but I'm just saying momentum can jazz a place up over summer and have you primed come the new season.
We were the total opposite coming into this season and everybody knew it.

[Panamark]

Ah well, lets go with the theory that Sheedy doesnt think his draft selections will differ that much by winning a few.. In that case,
good luck !! If they beat Brisbane this week, we will know for a fact
that Sheedy has taken this path, depite knowing its impossible to
make the finals..

[Halen High]

So what do you guys think, are the Crows this good or is the competition a little thin these days? Remember, the Crows were tipped by most to finish out of the eight.

I pose the question because I've seen some ordinary football teams running around this comp lately. Sure, there's plenty of great 'athletes', but a lot of them seem to find it a challenge kicking or handballing, while under no direct physical pressure, to a team mate 10-20m away.

Not sure we're witnessing this best era of footy at the moment.

[Panamark]

G'day Halen High,

I reckon the Crows have got an awesome defence.
Thats got to go a long way towards September !
They would have to have the best defence in the competition.
If it was down to Adelaide and West
Coast, I would consider it even money. Why, its at the MCG !!
Something a lot of interstate fans complain about, but in this
scenario I could see where the neutral ground is a good thing.
In fact I would think the crows could topple the weagles at the G.

Now if Geelong, Saints, Roos or Melbourne make the GF. It will be
more interesteing. I think the Crows best shot is if they play one of the interstate teams in the GF. (Weagles, Swans, Lions)

You would have to rate them a chance HH ! (deservedly so)
If I was you I would be getting excited !!

[BOMBER]

Good Luck with the Crows H'High.
I like a bet on the footy and I've plonked a little hard earned on the Crows at $6.50.For a team that is in 2nd position I can't see why they are such long odds,couldn't resist.
Panamark makes some good points though,I think for the Crows to win they need to play an interstate team on GF day at the G.
I see Adelaide as having a gun midfield which is their strength and can serve it up to the Coasters,plus the Crows have players still around from 97/98 who know what it takes to go all the way.
The jack in the box side at the moment are the Swans,I thought they weren't that good but now they are really playing some great footy and starting to roll.

[Halen High]

Yep, I reckon the Crows are a chance. They can play exciting footy and as you say Panamark, they have a great defence, which all sides need to win a flag.

I agree Bomber that the Swans are looking good. I'm sure the AFL is desperate for them to go all the way, and they might just do it. At the moment I'd say it's WCE, Crows and Sydney in that order for the flag.

But if the Crows do win it, I'm not sure what this says about the comp.

Here's Round 17;
St Kilda
Hawks (Blues will probably win now I haven't tipped them!)
Geelong
Brissy
Port
Sydney
Kangaroos (we're due to drop one)
Demons

By the way, did you guys see Merret play for Brisbane? Another Lynch in the making?

[Panamark]

I'll be pissed off if Carlton beat the Hawks !! :D
(Unfortunately on last week's form they should do it easily.)

Denis, listen to me !!!! DRAFT PICKS, DRAFT PICKS !! :p

Agree with you both about the Swannies....
Ive kinda adopted them as my second team due to the
fact Im surrounded by Sydneysiders. Its amazing how
many people are into the Swans in NSW now, as opposed
to when I first moved here (about 10 years back).

Sydney is getting its shit together, AFL and VB on tap at
all licensed venues !!! Not bad hey.. I had to drink farken
Tooheys New when I first arrived here..

A lot of places are also putting in Carlton Draught on
Tap now.. How good is that ??

Swans games are regularly better attended than the Rugby
League.. I think it would be a great thing for AFL in general
if they won, after all, Adelaide, Perth and Brisbane have all
been there now.

I think Sydney have just as much chance as the Crows...

[Panamark]

I didnt see the Brisbane game unfortunately HH...

Merret is a famous name for Brisbane !

(Remember Roger !)

[BOMBER]

Merret is a famous name at Bomberland,we remember Roger fondly.
Carlton is being asked to pay back close to a million bucks on unpaid tax,the social club may have to close.
Looks like Elliott really did fuck things up down there at Optus.

[Panamark]

I didnt know that BOMBER. I was just checking out AFL.COM to see
if I could read more about it. Us Blues fans are pretty much
de-sensitized to news like this by now. Im sure the social club
will remain. Old Jack fucked himself up even more than Carlton,
so I guess poetic justice is being dished out.

[BOMBER]

Mate,The Age broke the story today.
I agree with you,the AFL will have to help Carlton out,nobody wants to see Carlton on the skids both on/off the ground.
For this comp to keep prospering we need all clubs to be viable,especially power clubs such as Carlton who have such great support and history.
Still though,I never liked Elliott because he thought he was an elitist and couldn't be touched.I think you guys were right in pulling his name down off that stand.

[Panamark]

Agree with ya mate ! Look at the Bulldogs, they reckon they are fucked
every year, yet they still keep going. If the AFL kill Carlton, I would
never watch another game of it in my life. I feel that strongly.
I used to know some mad South Melbourne fans who still dont
watch the footy to this day..

This is crappy news, but the Blues will survive. The initial penalties
dished out by the AFL were harsher than this.

[BOMBER]

Mate,I have friends who were Fitzroy fans and they never jumped on Brisy's wagon even in recent years.They follow other clubs now such as North and the Bullies,Fitzroy was fuckin' very unlucky,in todays AFL world the AFL would have bailed them out.
Did they have this story at the AFL site?
Every time I try and get into the AFL site,I'm blocked from getting in.

[Panamark]

No its not at the AFL site..

Why are you getting blocked ?

Try http://afl.com.au

[Panamark]

Story is there now !!!!!!!!

[Panamark]

Blues brace for massive blow
4:01:11 PM Wed 20 July, 2005
Paul Gough
Sportal for afl.com.au
Carlton president Ian Collins says if the Blues are forced to pay years of back-tax on their social club at Optus Oval it could prove as big a blow to the financial stability of the club as the AFL fines for salary cap breaches in 2002.

The Blues, already struggling to recover from a fine of nearly $1 million for salary cap breaches three years ago, are now facing a fresh financial crisis following an investigation by the Australian Taxation Office (ATO).

The ATO has ordered the Blues to pay back taxes from 2000 to 2004 on their social club - which unlike the football club has been profitable in recent years - after a ruling which decided that separate social clubs that are connected with football clubs, as is the case at Carlton, do not qualify as not-for-profit organisations.

This follows an investigation of the Cronulla-Sutherland club in the NRL, a case that ended up before the Full Bench of the High Court of Australia.



The Blues have until the end of August to challenge the ruling or pay the back taxes, which are believed to be as much as $1 million with St Kilda already having been hit with a much smaller bill of around $50,000 on its social club at Moorabbin.

But to avoid paying the back taxes, the Blues will have to prove money generated from their social club at Optus Oval was not for profit but was for community use by way of maintaining and improving their former home ground.

Carlton president Ian Collins admitted if the Blues are forced to pay the amount demanded by the ATO it could have a devastating effect on the already cash-strapped club.

"To find those sorts of monies (being demanded by the ATO) is a bit like the AFL giving you a fine for salary cap breaches," he said.

"It's not budgeted for and if you receive it, it puts pressure on every part of the business, which is unfortunate."

However Collins has not lost his sense of humour, when asked if he now regretted getting back involved in club administration when he ousted former president John Elliott following the salary cap fines at the end of 2002.

"It gave me a heart attack in the interim," he said of his recent health scare.

"But we've got to make sure Carlton survives and with that prospers."
And Collins did not rule out the Blues, once the most financially powerful club in the competition, from asking the AFL for financial assistance through the competitive balance fund (CBF) should they be forced to pay back taxes.

"That's what it (the CBF) has been created for and if you are in that (a difficult financial) position, why wouldn’t you apply for it and why wouldn't you receive it?" he said.

Collins described the latest financial setback to the Blues as "a kick in the shins" but vowed it would not affect the club's ability to re-sign players with the likes of Scott Camporeale, Matthew Lappin and Lance Whitnall still unsigned for next year or be able to pay its players next season.,

"We can’t take a trick but we have had a lot of issues to resolve and this is another one," he said.

Collins said the Blues could be forced to close their social club if they are forced to pay back taxes on it while chief executive Michael Malouf said the paying of the taxes would be a major setback in the club's bid to be profitable again within three years.

"We have set ourselves a three year plan to get back to an operating neutral (break-even) position and we started it this year and this year we are pretty much on target in terms of year one with a record membership and lots of other positives," he said.

"But we have always said we need everything going right for us in the next three years and for this to come along is going to make that job much more difficult and assuming we have to pay it, it will make life difficult for Carlton going forward."

[Panamark]

Sounds like they are gearing up to get AFL assistance.
Proper drill too.

[BOMBER]

When I hit that link,it loads up and all I get is a white blank screen,this is what always happens.
I have no idea why mate?

[Panamark]

Is this at home or work ??

What browser are you using ?

[BOMBER]

The AFL will definately help them out,they helped out Melbourne and the Dogs as you said,already.The tv rights are coming up again and the AFL will be very flushed for cash.
Looks like the footy will go back to 7 and the games will be broadcast more regularly up in the northern states at reasonable times which hasn't happened with 9.

[Panamark]

Well thankgod for some positive news ! We need it :)

[BOMBER]

Eddie and Packer are trying to have an alliance with FOX with 4 games on 9 and 4 on FOX.
7 and 10's ticket is allowed 1st and last rights with the bidding,this is why they should win.
The aFL is gleefully rubbing its hands because they know both tickets are going to try and outbid each other.We could be looking at near the 200 million $ mark here for the rights.Alot of this cah filters back to the clubs,I can't give you exact amounts mate.
The AFL has been less than happy with 9's coverage in Sydney/Brisbane and wants it on up there so the game will get more support up there.

[Panamark]

I preferred 7's coverage to be honest. I like the camera shots from
behind the goals when the player is shooting. Not from some fucked up angle out on the half forward line..
You cant tell where the ball is going ??


But I cant complain, Ive still got a hacked paytv card from the
old Foxtel days, even though the foxtel no longer works, I still
pickup Austar regional channels (West Australia, Northern Territory)
combine that with the Free to air coverage and I normally only miss
one or at the most two games per round live.... ;)

[Panamark]

Speaking of fucked up coverage, you know what I cant stand.
When they replay some pissy event while the game is continuing.
You miss the actual game because of the replay. The amount of
times Ive nearly kicked the TV when they did that shit !!!!

[BOMBER]

Saints
Hawks
Cats
Lions (be nice to be wrong)
Power
Eagles
Crows
Dockers

[Panamark]

Saints
Blues (Hope Im wrong re: Draft Picks)
CATS
Lions
Power
SWANS !!! (Hard one to pick)
CROWS (Another Close one)
Dockers

[BOMBER]

Those 2 games are very hard mate,The Swans v Eagles game should be a rippa.
Do you get into the cricket mate?

[Panamark]

Yes ! I played both Aussie Rules and Cricket competitively when growing up. I love both. Im pissed off that SBS cut off the ASHES
in favour of the Tour de France ???? Whats up with that ???
If you are given the rights to show the ASHES, you better fucking
show it !!!!! :(

[BOMBER]

Originally posted by Panamark
Yes ! I played both Aussie Rules and Cricket competitively when growing up. I love both. Im pissed off that SBS cut off the ASHES
in favour of the Tour de France ???? Whats up with that ???
If you are given the rights to show the ASHES, you better fucking
show it !!!!! :(
Mate,SBS aren't to blame here,it's the other stations who refused to pick up the ASHES because they are tightarses who are to blame.
If it weren't for SBS then we wouldn't have it at all because all the other stations refused to pay the asking price for the rights.
SBS stepped in at the last minute and said it's not fair for the AUssie public not to have the cricket free to air.
SBS when they got the rights way back said they had to still show the conclusion of the cycling and that there would be a clash with the 1st test.

[Panamark]

Fair enough then, I guess we should be thankful..
Good fightback from what I read, I thought we were
goners after that first innings batting performance,
but we have just about knocked em over for less than
a hundred ! :D

Good stuff !

Is it just me, or are you also worried about the terrorist
bombings in London and this Ashes series......
That first days play was packed out...
You can bet some extremist fucker over there is having
these thoughts..

[BOMBER]

Oh hell yeah mate,those terrorist fuckers could target anywhere.
The first days play was a classic mate,what more can you say about McGrath that hasn't already been said.
I don't think the world has ever seen a bowler as accurate as he is.

[Panamark]

I wished I had seen us bowling, when SBS cut to the cycling I crashed.
Glenn McGrath is a Legend ! He just keeps on going !

[Panamark]

5 -21 !! He did well...
Lee took two, Warnie yet to take one..

Hopefully we knock over those last 3 really quick..

[BOMBER]

Thank God's it's the weekend which means sleep in after watching the cricket.It's going to be one hell of a sporting weekend with footy/cricket going at the same time.
I want us to show England no mercy and crush them.

[Panamark]

Good Job Blues ! :D

Kick as many goals as posssible yet dont
surrender those first draft picks. !
(Just like last week)

You done me proud !! :D

[Panamark]

Hows those Bullfrogs ????????

[Panamark]

Well, no real surprises apart from the Doggies ! ;)

Im officially going on record now declaring that Carlton
will get the wooden spoon, and want it !!!
(And need it !!)

As a Blues fan I think thats the best tactic from here.
Be competitive so the fans know, but dont take the
points.. If the Blues give up the first picks now, they
are fucking stupid.

[BOMBER]

What an effort from the Bomber kids on saturday night,we definately can look forward to the future with a smile.
We were in the end I thought alittle unlucky not to get the points but still managed to give the Lions the fright of their lives.
It was the kids who rallied for us again,these are great signs with Hird,McPhee and Rioli all not playing.
Your never happy with a loss but I'm more than happy now where our club is heading in the future.

[BOMBER]

Bomber - 6 (69)
P'Mark - 6 (59)
H'High - 5 (67)

[Halen High]

Fair dinkum did you guys see the Kangaroos v Crows match? What a cracker!

And you're right Panamark. Carlton should manipulate the system and get the best possible deal come draft time.

As for the cricket, I might be an Aussie but I'm pissed off with the Englishmen. I thought this was going to be a REAL contest. An actual TEST series. Not yet another boooooooooooooring, one-sided, predictable affair between us and some other sub-standard, so-called test playing nation!!! I mean come on, how long has it been since we were really tested? And consider this, the Poms are genuinley the second best side in the world.

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Round 18;
Geelong
Saints
West Coast
Sydney!!!
Brisbane
Kangaroos
Richmond
Freo

[BOMBER]

I watched the majority of the Crows v Kangas yesterday and it was a great game.I think though these last quarter fadeouts from the Crows are starting to become a bad habit and they need to put a stop to them before the finals hit.
Big news over here today is whether or not the Crows will get a home prelim or not if they get that far.Nobody seems to have an answer on this and we are only 5 weeks before finals.

[Panamark]

Halen High, yeah the Poms were pissweak in the end..
I think everyone is so surprised at how easily we knocked em over.
As for Carlton, they can actually win a game now and safely retain
the first picks. So lookout for at least one win before the end of
the year ;)

I missed the Crows v Kangas, I wish I had seen it. It was great
watching the Swans show the Weagles they are not invinceable..

Crows, Swans, Eagles and the Lions. All four of the major interstate
clubs have toes in the door, thats for sure !

BOMBER, surely the Crows will get the prelim if they finish out right
second ?? That should be a no brainer. Same if the Swans get 2nd.

[Halen High]

Yeah, there's a lot of talk about the preliminary final situation over here too as it looks like we're a big chance to finish second. It's a farce that has already affected the Eagles and the Lions in previous seasons. I find it amusing how the AFL administration takes itself so seriously, best exemplified by the pompous Demetriou, yet situations like this, and the uneven draw throughout the season make a mockery of the comp.

By the way, don't miss this weekend's Crows v Swans match. Should be another cracker. Already a sellout.

[Halen High]

Hey Panamark, I'm looking forward to Carlton getting those priority picks too. I don't know if I mentioned this before, but before the Crows came along I was a Blues fan since childhood, so I still keep an eye on them.

[BOMBER]

Panamark,your right,it should be a no brainer in the Crows hosting a prelim if they finished 2nd.
Ask the Brisbane Lions if it's a no brainer,last year they were forced to travel to Melbourne for their prelim and they were the 2nd team in the comp.
I really hope this is worked out for Adelaide,be terrible if they had to travel to the MCG to play the Saints for their home final.

[BOMBER]

This shit about losing games to come last so you get priority picks is going to be stopped as early as next year.
I'm not pot-shotting Carlton here and I hope they get help to be competitive again,I agree though with the AFL saying the system has to be changed.
It's ridiculous that supporters of clubs hope their side loses so they are rewarded.

[Panamark]

Agree with all comments, guys.. But if there is a system there, it should be taken advantaage of. Any team in the same posistion
would do so..

As for the Preliminary problem for the Crows.. Read on...


MCC, AFL may sign preliminary final deal
05:57 AEST Tue Jul 26 2005
AAP
The Melbourne Cricket Club and AFL are likely to sign a new deal this week paving the way for two preliminary finals to be played outside Melbourne for the first time.

Representatives of the MCC and the MCG Trust will meet with AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou and chairman Ron Evans on Wednesday.

The MCC is confident they will sign a new contract which will remove the problematic clause requiring at least one preliminary final to be played at the MCG each season.

That long-term arrangement has vexed non-Victorian clubs, which have been disadvantaged by being forced to play "home" finals at the MCG.

Brisbane last year "hosted" Geelong in an MCG preliminary final.

A similar situation will likely occur this year without a change in the contract, given West Coast, Adelaide and Sydney currently occupy the top three positions on the ladder.




But MCC general manager of club operations Trevor Dohnt said there was an expectation that a new deal would be reached in Wednesday's meeting.

"All parties are pretty keen to move forward and sign off on this," Dohnt said.

"The intent is there, it's a matter of fine-tuning the words of the agreement."

Crows chief executive Steven Trigg, whose club has a firm hold on second place and is most likely to benefit from a contract change, urged the AFL to quickly finalise the deal.

"We just want to be clear that it's being pushed as hard as it possibly can be," Trigg said.

The Crows suffered from the AFL's finals scheduling in 2002, when they played a semi-final against Melbourne at the MCG despite being ranked higher than the Demons.

But Trigg said it was not just Adelaide's finals chances, but the integrity of the competition that was at stake.

"To be really clear, there's a level of urgency that the reputation of the competition is appropriately dealt with and understood and that the outcome is in keeping with that," Trigg said.

An AFL spokesman said the league had no comment to make, other than that it was hopeful an agreement would be reached soon.

[BOMBER]

It will be interesting what sweeteners the AFL offer the MCC,the MCC will want big compo if the contract is to be torn.

[Panamark]

Ooh yeah !

I thought that contract was just about due to finish anyway ??
Like within a year or so, the MCC would be wise to get some
leverage from the situation now if the end of contract is not
far away...

[BOMBER]

I'm not sure mate,I think that contract was for another 20 years or something,could well be wrong though.
Who you going for in the finals mate?

[Panamark]

Im going for Sydney, then any of the Victorian teams, Saints being
the preferred choice. (But any Vic teams if the Saints and Swans get booted out)

[BOMBER]

No soft spot for the Crows mate,didn't you live over there for a while?

[Halen High]

Yeah come on Panamark. I know there's a little South Aussie in ya! You lived over here for a while if I remember correctly in an earlier post way back. Come on and jump on the Crows!

And that's great that the MCC and AFL look like working out the prelim fiasco. The press put Demetriou under the microscope this week to sort this out. I guess he backed down on the AFL's recent extra cash demands that almost derailed the whole thing. After the WADA incident he couldn't afford another embarrasing stuff-up.

[BOMBER]

It would be fucking hilarious payback to Port fans if the Crows go top.It would cancel out last year as anything you can do we can do better.
I'm hoping the Crows get up bigtime,then the Swans and out of the Vic teams I'm hoping for Geelong,they look shaky though now all of a sudden.

[Panamark]

Yep, even played state level for SA in my age group..
I would be going for them, but they have won a flag
more recently than any of the other teams in contention..
(The ones that I am backing anyways)

Fuck the Weagles !!

If it gets down to Adelaide V Weagles, I will be going
for the Crows for sure..

[Panamark]

Fuck the Lions too !! :D

[Panamark]

Fuck Port Power Too !!

(I guess I do secretly have a soft spot for the old Crows ;) )

[BOMBER]

Originally posted by Panamark
Fuck the Lions too !! :D
Yes,Fuck the Lions.:)
Hopefully the Bullfrogs kick them out of the 8 this week and they miss out all together.

[BOMBER]

I wouldn't have minded the Demons finally getting their shit together and winning a flag.
However of course their club culture demands they string shitloads of losses together at the business end of the season only to miss out completely on any finals.
They seriously have to be joking about missing out from the position they were in,unbelievable.

[Panamark]

Yeah the Dees are well overdue, I think the last one was in the 50's ?
With Barrassi Im guessing (before he went to Carlton)

Carlton can now actually win a game and still hold onto the prime
picks, so dont be surprised if they take Richmond out of contention.
Some old bad blood there ;)

[BOMBER]

Bombers
Saints
Eagles
Lions
Crows
Kangas
Tiges
Magpies

[Panamark]

Wish me luck fellas ! Tomorrow is the big day for me and SweetSecrets ;)

Heres my tips

Cats
Saints
Weagles
Bullfrogs (Thanks Bomber, I like that !)
Swannies !!! (Even though I think Adelaide will win, HH !)
Kangaroos
Dockers
Blues (They can win one now and still stay in Prime draft contention !)

[Grant]

Ahhh, those Swannies were so close! Been tearing my hair out for that entire 4th quarter. Too many behinds, not enough goals. Bazza looks like he's getting slow on the field.

[BOMBER]

Originally posted by Panamark
Wish me luck fellas ! Tomorrow is the big day for me and SweetSecrets ;)

Heres my tips

Cats
Saints
Weagles
Bullfrogs (Thanks Bomber, I like that !)
Swannies !!! (Even though I think Adelaide will win, HH !)
Kangaroos
Dockers
Blues (They can win one now and still stay in Prime draft contention !)
Hope it all went well mate.:)

You got 7 mate and missed out on the Bombers.
Great score but when will you learn?;)

[BOMBER]

Originally posted by Grant
Ahhh, those Swannies were so close! Been tearing my hair out for that entire 4th quarter. Too many behinds, not enough goals. Bazza looks like he's getting slow on the field.
I don't know about out on the fieldmhowever he is definately slow in the head.;)
Seriously,that was a fair effort by the Swans and the way they played the game by choking it up was more than interesting.
I wonder if they will go this way in September.:confused:

[BOMBER]

P'Mark - 7 (66)
H'High - 5 (72)
Bomber - 5 (74)

[Panamark]

Originally posted by BOMBER
Hope it all went well mate.:)

You got 7 mate and missed out on the Bombers.
Great score but when will you learn?;)

The Bombers played well, I saw that game. I thought they would
be taking the foot off the pedal by now, but Im obviously wrong.
Congrats Mate !

I am totally not surprised at Carlton getting up. Is it a coincidence
that they have kicked over 15 goals in their last 3 games, then
when they are safely on the bottom, rise to the occasion to deny
an old foe ??? It was the perfect oppurtunity to have a big win,
settle a score and not jeopardise our draft selections...

[BOMBER]

Congrats to you also mate,I know wins for you guys have been few and far between but at least your supporters hang tough.
I don't see Carlton fans spitting at their coach as he walks up the players race.

[Halen High]

Hey guys here's round 19:

Saints
Crows
West Coast
Freo
Sydney
Brisbane
Port
Kangaroos

[Halen High]

Oh and well done Panamark on the 7!

Hope I'm wrong about Port this week. Pleeeeeeeeeease beat them!

[BOMBER]

Saints
Weagles
Crows
Bombers
Dockers
Lions
Blues
Kangas

[Panamark]

Originally posted by Halen High
Oh and well done Panamark on the 7!

Hope I'm wrong about Port this week. Pleeeeeeeeeease beat them!

Thanks HH, and check out www.afl.com.au for some great news, the prelims can now be held outside Vic !

I wouldnt count on a Carlton win, as you know I think Carlton want
the spoon. If Hawthorn played on Saturday and won, I would give
Carlton a big chance, (as they could once again win, without
relinquishing the draft picks) but the Carlton and Hawks game
are being played almost at the same time on the Sunday.
However the Hawks game is starting an hour earlier. I guess
if the Hawks are in an unbeatable position at half time, then
the Blues might try that bit harder.. Its a tough call. After last
weeks mauling of Richmond (when they knew it wouldnt effect
their position) you frustratingly know they could probably win.

Im happy for them to take the draft picks, and hope they stick
to that plan.

Thanks for the good wishes too guys !! ;)


Saints
Weagles
Crows
Swans
Dockers
Lions
Blues
Roos

[BOMBER]

H'High - 7 (79)
P'Mark - 6 (72)
Bomber - 5 (79)

Collingwood v Carlton this weekend is a game that whoever wins really loses,how fucking ridiculous.

[BOMBER]

Dockers
Kangas
Demons
Blues
Crows
Swans
Bombers
Bullfrogs

[Halen High]

Yes, it's about time the AFL got rid of this ludicrous notion of rewarding teams for losing a lot.

Anyway, here's my tips.

West Coast
Saints
Geelong
Collingwood
Port
Swans
Bombers
Bulldogs

[Panamark]

Well good luck to the Blues, they were the hardest hit by the AFL so it would be kinda cool for them to get something back before they change the system. I do agree with you both that it has to
be changed.

This week

Weagles
Cats
Saints
Blues (although I hope Collingwood win, God I cant believe I just said that !!!!!)
Crows
Swans
Bombers
Bullfrogs

[BOMBER]

P'Mark - 6 (78)
Bomber - 5 (84)
H'High - 4 (83)

Jimmy Hird held a presser out at Windy Hill today and is going to pass on the captaincy at the end of the year and play for another season.
P'Mark's fave footballer in the league is the likely successor,Coleman.

A Fucking Coward : Campbell Brown (enjoy your 4 weeks out of the game pinhead).

[Halen High]

Not his biggest fan, but I enjoyed reading an interview with Grant Thomas in today's The Australian, in which he called for greater freedom of speech in AFL footy. He was particularly savage on that protected species known as umpires. Well said Grant.

And did you guys see the Josh Francou head-butt from last week? ONE WEEK!!! Pickett gets two for a fair dinkum (slightly late) footy collision, and Francou gets one for that. Even the usually reserved commentators were appalled. The tribunal has got no idea what it's doing.


Round 21 tips;

Freo
Crows
Cats
Power (God I hope I'm wrong)
Demons
Swans
Bombers (come on Blues, remember those priority draft picks)
Tigers

[Halen High]

Well, it didn't take long for Demetriou to launch into Thomas for his call for greater freedom of speech in AFL.

Demetriou seems to think it's okay for players and coaches to be criticised, but umpires are to be protected at all costs. Does Demetriou ever consider why umpires are so vilified?

The AFL needs to get rid of some of these silly grey rules (like deliberate out-of-bounds) that make the umpires job harder than it needs to be, dramatically improve the standard of umpiring, enforce uniform interpretation, and allow for fair and reasonoble comment on umpiring performance.

IMO, in contemporary AFL it's all about the umpires. It should be all about the players and coaches.

[Panamark]

Hi Guys,

Interesting week this week, three teams on priority draft level
(Blues, Pies and Hawks) but all three can compromise these
picks by exceeding the 20 points. With only one more game to
go (after this week) you would expect all three of these teams
to take advantage of this. Carlton could actually draw a game
and still keep the draft picks, but thats where it ends for these
three.

My picks this week,

Saints
Cats
Crows
Lions
Bulldogs
Swans
Bombers (I just cant see the Blues giving up those picks)
Richmond

[Panamark]

So only one more year for Hirdy, BOMBER ?? Thats kinda sad.
(Even for a non essendon fan)

HH, I agree about the umpires, they control the outcomes of games.
They should be allowed the highest of scrutiny.

[BOMBER]

Hirdy didn't in the end rule out keeping the captaincy next year but it's a 50/50.the press conference was to let the fans know he was going to play in 06,if everything goes well with his body then there is some small chance of 07 but doubtfull.

[BOMBER]

Dockers
Cats
Crows
Demons
Lions
Swans
Bombers
Tiges

[BOMBER]

I hope Carlton were playing for draft picks on sunday,I really do.
Carlton had a full strength team out there on sunday and we had our youngest team in the history of Essendon take the field.
99 points,need I say more.

[BOMBER]

H'High - 9 (92)
Bomber - 7 (91)
P'Mark - 5 (83)

Congrats H'High,I thought I did well getting a 7 but 8 takes the cake.
I hope you loaded up at the tab,I think the pick 8 paid about $700.

[Halen High]

Cheers!

I don't bet on the footy, or anything else, but perhaps I should lol!

How about the umpire scandal that's raging at the moment. Will be very interesting to see what happens over the next couple of weeks.

Yeah, I can't believe the Blues/Essendon result. I thought the Bombers would win a tight one. The Blues have hit rock bottom. Pagan must be tired of the struggle. Still think the AFL's punishment of Carlton has hurt the competition as much as the Blues.

Here's my final round tips;

Bulldogs
Swans
Eagles
Power (please make me wrong Freo, PLEASEEEEEEEEEE)
Saints
Cats
Kangas
Demons

[BOMBER]

Even if they did want to lose,I don't think the plan was to be that pathetic.I couldn't believe what I was watching at times.
Saints have copped some huge injuries and the Coasters form has been up/down.
Crows and Swans are the two clubs currently in the best form,crows facing the Eagles in Perth for top spot is must see viewing.
Bombers will end Melbourne's season on sunday,we have a habit of fucking them up when it counts.

[Panamark]

Hi Guys,

Of course Carlton were playing for the draft picks.
Along with Collingwood and Hawthorn.
Carlton have the pre-season and main draft pick
priority if they stay where they are. No crap, I was
happy that they lost. You would have noticed its the
first time this year I actually tipped against them.
(And against Essendon !!) They would have to have rocks
in their heads to give up those picks now.

Some really interesting games coming up this week.
HH, glad they sorted out the finals/MCG drama for
the Crows, you gotta be happy with that..

[Panamark]

Bulldogs
Swans
West Coast (Only because of home ground advantage)
Saints
Port (Elimination final- home ground !!! I hope Dockers win !)
Cats
Melbourne
Kangaroos

[BOMBER]

Originally posted by Panamark
Hi Guys,

Of course Carlton were playing for the draft picks.
Along with Collingwood and Hawthorn.
Carlton have the pre-season and main draft pick
priority if they stay where they are. No crap, I was
happy that they lost. You would have noticed its the
first time this year I actually tipped against them.
(And against Essendon !!) They would have to have rocks
in their heads to give up those picks now.

Some really interesting games coming up this week.
HH, glad they sorted out the finals/MCG drama for
the Crows, you gotta be happy with that..
At least Hawthorn kept their dignity.
Anway the AFL are changing the laws about purposely cellar dwelling to scoop the draft.
Next year there will be no reason to come last unless your not up to it.

[Panamark]

BOMBER, doesnt surprise me at all, Im in favour of changing it. Did you hear Sheedy's post match interview after the Carlton game.
He all but admitted that Cartlon were not even trying.
It sucks, but I would be pissed off if they didnt grab this chance
while they have it.

[BOMBER]

My prob isn't so much with Carlton it's with Collingwood,however this will be the 3rd year straight you guys have had first picks so it's about time you guys started to show some improvement.
Collingwood were in successive GF's just 2 years ago and have had major injuries this year.That's just the luck of the game and I don't see why they should be rewarded for bad luck.
I mean at Essendon we've had major injuries also but still never gave up the ghost and are worse off for it.

[Panamark]

I thought this year was the first that Carlton was eligable to partake
in the Draft? Remember the AFL fined them a million and 2-3 years
of draft picks. (Maybe Im wrong ?)

I feel for you, if Essendon won only 2 more games, they
would be in the mix. You are kinda inbetween the final eight and those
eligable for draft selections..

Carlton will be a different team next year for sure. They know what needs fixing, and Im sure the draft picks will address this. Next year
the Blues will make the eight. (Bold Prediction ;) )

[BOMBER]

You guys are/were behind the 8-ball because of those restrictions,I think they've been over for a couple of years though now.(I definately could be wrong mate).
How did Nick Stevens get to Carlton,I can't remember?
Have you seen how good Brett Stanton is for a kid at Bomberland?
I think he will go close to winning the BF.

[Halen High]

Bombers v Demons is a tough one. Would not be surprised if the Bombers get up.

I think Stevens wanted to go to Collingwood, but Port got a little upset about him leaving, so they refused to trade and put him in the draft. Enter Carlton!

Yeah Panamark, would not be surprised to see the Blues back in the 8 next year. Actually, despite all their problems, would anyone be surprised to see the Blues win another flag before Geelong, Melbourne, Saint Kilda, or Freo do? The Blues have that tradition.

By the way, saw Peter Motley in our paper the other day. He's doing well these days and has got himself a gorgeous girlfriend. I often see him around the Bay and that's where they met. She owns a fashion store on Jetty Road. Good on him!!!

[Panamark]

Good news on Peter Motley HH. That was a sad story, I never knew
what happened to him. I knew he was good mates with Scott Campeorale. Good to hear he is doing well.

Bomber, I looked up the penalties on Carlton, last year was the first
time they were allowed draft picks again. However they finished
up the ladder in 2004 and didnt get any priority picks at all this
year.

Heres last years ladder..

http://sportsaustralia.com/afl/2004/ladder.html


So Im hoping they throw this last game and get all the pre season
and main draft priorities. There are a few key positions we need filled
desperately, this could be the greatest thing to happen to the club
since the ridiculously savage penalties. It would be poetic justice that
the Blues actually got to take advantage of the AFL's fucked up
priority system the last year it is in action :)

[BOMBER]

That's right,you did win 10 games last year.
Sort of makes this season worse for you guys after being pretty competitive last year and just missing out on the 8.
Don't take this the wrong way mate,I don't think cheating deserves poetic justice.Carlton had their chance to come clean like the Bombers and Melbourne did,however Elliott thought Carlton was a lawless.
Motley potentially could have been the greatest player to come across from SA in the 80's,what a shame.

[BOMBER]

That's right,you did win 10 games last year.
Sort of makes this season worse for you guys after being pretty competitive last year and just missing out on the 8.
Don't take this the wrong way mate,I don't think cheating deserves poetic justice.Carlton had their chance to come clean like the Bombers and Melbourne did,however Elliott thought Carlton was a lawless.
Motley potentially could have been the greatest player to come across from SA in the 80's,what a shame.

[BOMBER]

Sorry for the double post,it's been a long night.
This Ashes series is doing me in as far as sleep goes.

[BOMBER]

Bullfrogs
Dawks
Cows
Saints
Dockers
Kangas
Bombers
Pussies

[Halen High]

Yeah Panamark, Mots is doing well. I often see him round the place. He obviousley suffered a lot of physical and mental damage, but every time I see him he is smiling, or having a joke or just chatting with someone.

The Ashes are keeping me up too. What a series. It's about time England gave us some serious competition. I can't believe we've had three thrillers in a row.

What do you think about Roo? Lucky or what?

[BOMBER]

Sat up in the members on sunday for the last game for us for the year and Andrew Demetriou was up there just a row away from me.
We then watched the Bombers get absolutely crucified by the umpires for the first 3 quarters.
I think Andrew will have a migrane for days after we kept pointing out to him what a shithouse display it was.
BRING ON O6 for the DONS.

Roo was a little lucky I thought because his feet were off the ground.I'm happy with the result though and am hoping the Crows pump the saints on saturday night.Then Roo will be back for the prelim.

[BOMBER]

HiHigh - 7 (99)
P'Mark - 7 (90)
Bomber - 5 (96)

Congrats to H'High for winning the minor premiership both in the tipping and with his club.
P'Mark coming last means he is up for some priority picks in next years tipping.

You guys want to keep going in finals?
Even if you don't I'm interested in who you guys are tipping this week,cracker of a 1st weeks finals.

[Halen High]

LOL!

Yeah why not.

How about double or nothing to give Panamark a chance to catch up?

Here's mine;

Eagles
Saints (Have you guys noticed that apart from the rare ocassion I've tipped against the Crows all season?)
Roos (The most important game of the weekend. It's more important that Port lose than the Crows win.)
Demons

[Panamark]

Congrats HH on both counts :D

The only result I got wrong was the Crows.. What a mighty
effort beating them at home !!!

And Congrats to the Mighty Blues for not letting those draft
picks get away. I watched that game and was predicting when
the deliberate fade out would happen. I was really close ;)

Commiserations to the Bombers for a no mans land finish.
Bring on 06 for the Blues and the Bombers !!

I dont mind continuing with the tipping into the finals.

Heres mine for this week.

Swans
Cats
Crows (You got ya final HH !!)
Roos

[Panamark]

Originally posted by Halen High
LOL!

Yeah why not.

How about double or nothing to give Panamark a chance to catch up?

Here's mine;

Saints (Have you guys noticed that apart from the rare ocassion I've tipped against the Crows all season?)


Yes ! I have noticed that you tipped against the Crows. I have
tipped for the Blues all season except the last two games which
I knew they would throw. (They would have been mad not too)

I would have been miles ahead in the tipping
if I didnt back the Blues every week :p

Cant wait to see who they recruit in the pre-season and main
Draft !!! AWESOME !!!! :D

[Halen High]

Yeah I know! You should have jumped off the Blues for the tipping mate lol!

I'm not convinced about the Crows (obviously). I can't believe they've finished top. They were tipped by many to finish well outside the 8. It's interesting how during the final season under Ayres many football experts thought their next generation of players were not up to it, and the Crows were in for years of pain. Yet under Craig, they suddenly have a strong list with plenty of promising young players.

Ayres under-achieved big time.

I still find it hard to believe they can win the flag though.

I've tipped the Eagles this week but would not be surprised if the Swans won.

[BOMBER]

P'Mark - Grab a copy of todays Australian and Age mate.
Both papers are strong on the fact that you guys are looking to trade Fev for more draft picks.
The guy has just signed a contract but in the second half of the season the Carlton board and coaching staff have tired of his attitude and think his second efforts out on the ground don't set a good example for the kids coming through at Carlton.
Fevola is reported as saying he would like to go to the Saints as he has good friends down there.
If the G train retires at the end of the year then maybe this isn't that far fetched.

[BOMBER]

Swans
Cats
Crows
Kangas

[Panamark]

G'day BOMBER and HH,

Theres a whole article on afl.com about Carlton today, they also
mention that scenario about Fevola. I would be surprised if he goes.
I know many are pissed off with his attitude, but there was also many
that rallied to get his signature. Im guessing they will give him one
more go. (Assuming he wants to stay)

HH its amazing the turn around in the Crows this year, I would never
have picked it at the start of the season, even players like McLeod
seemed to have gotten tired last year.. I dont think Gary Ayres
is a good coach at all. I think his leaving was the best thing to have
happened to Adelaide. I think the Crows have a good chance now
but I think the spoils will go to the Swans or the Eagles.
The Swans seem to be peaking at the exact right time..


I would love to see one of the Vic clubs get up, but Im not that
confident now. I guess we will have a much better idea after
this weekend.

[BOMBER]

I think the flag will go to the winner of the Saints v Crows game.
Whoever wins will be set up nicely to make the GF and play the MCG better than either the Swans or Eagles.
Would love to see the Swans roll the Eagles tonight.

[BOMBER]

Neil Craig deserves to be coach of the year handsdown.
What's funny with Gary Ayres is that over here he is taking a huge slice of the credit for where Adelaide are currently sitting.
He also thinks Bomber Thompson should be sacked at Geelong because they have similar records.
Sounds like a huge case of sour grapes to me.

[Grant]

Fuckin' robbery for the Swans!

[Halen High]

Swans
Crows

I don't think it matters who wins between the Crows and Port as far as the Grand Final is concerned. The Eagles are getting players back, they'll be refreshed, and on their home ground I can't imagine them not getting through.

I just want the Crows to knock Port out. That's enough for me. I honestly don't care about the Flag at this point. Just beating Port.

I don't know if you guys realise how strong the rivalry over here is. Some people won't go on Saturday night, or watch the game on TV, because they can't bare the thought of watching their side lose to the other!

[BOMBER]

Mate,I lived there up until I was 19.
I get it alright,this is flaming civil war.
I hope you guys destroy them,the cocky bastards.
I think the opposite about the Eagles,I think their forward line is really struggling and now with Matera not right I think they are ripe for the picking in the prelim.

[BOMBER]

Originally posted by Halen High
Swans
Crows

I don't think it matters who wins between the Crows and Port as far as the Grand Final is concerned. The Eagles are getting players back, they'll be refreshed, and on their home ground I can't imagine them not getting through.

I just want the Crows to knock Port out. That's enough for me. I honestly don't care about the Flag at this point. Just beating Port.

I don't know if you guys realise how strong the rivalry over here is. Some people won't go on Saturday night, or watch the game on TV, because they can't bare the thought of watching their side lose to the other!
Spoke to my mum last night and she is a Crows member.
She isn't going because she said that the stress will be too much to handle and that if you guys lose then she wants to be close to a bottle of brandy in the liquor cabinet.
We're hearing reports over here that the supporters will be seated seperate like in the Premier League,is this true?

[BOMBER]

H'High (2)
P'Mark (1)
Bomber (1)

[BOMBER]

Interesting trade rumour down here which is pretty strong.
Goddard to Carlton,Fevola to the Saints,Bartel to Essendon in exchange for pick 7 in the draft.

[Panamark]

Hi Guys,

Swans
Adelaide.

[Panamark]

Sorry about the late posting, Sweetsecrets and myself actually went to the Swans game last night. I had tipped Sydney to win, and at the
25 minute mark of the final term, thought Geelong had it in the bag.
Great work by Nick Davis, sent the quiet SCG crowd into a frenzy with
that last goal. This was great as I wanted Mary to experience that
side of things. She loved it !

I hope the Crows crush the Power tonight. :D CARN THE CROWS !!!!

BOMBER, I will look into that rumour about Fevola. I know a dude
that is pretty well connected with what goes on in the Blues camp.
Personally I think they will hang onto him for one more season.

However, if he was to leave, St Kilda would be the team for sure.

But remember, It was only 2 months ago that they moved
heaven and earth to resign him..... So I dunno.... But its not beyond
total belief.

[Panamark]

GOOD LUCK HALEN HIGH !! ;)

[Panamark]

FARK !! Watched the CROWS demolish the Power last night...

Congrats HH !! That would be as sweet as the flag ;)

[Grant]

Originally posted by Panamark
Sorry about the late posting, Sweetsecrets and myself actually went to the Swans game last night. I had tipped Sydney to win, and at the
25 minute mark of the final term, thought Geelong had it in the bag.
Great work by Nick Davis, sent the quiet SCG crowd into a frenzy with
that last goal. This was great as I wanted Mary to experience that
side of things. She loved it !

I was there too, mate. Whereabouts were you two were watching it? I didn't think they'd make it after Bazza dropped the ball in the last minute. We went absolutely fucking crazy when Davis kicked that goal through. Called BOMBER after it happened but I don't think he hear me properly lol. Bring on the Saints!

[ashstralia]

Originally posted by Panamark
Sorry about the late posting, Sweetsecrets and myself actually went to the Swans game last night.

marky!!!

i hope you got a couple of tickets to the next eels game.

then mary can see some REAL football. (and some biff!)




:)

[Halen High]

Well ..... could it have gone any better?

HOW FUCKING AWESOME WAS THAT?

Didn't just knock them out. WE HUMILIATED THEM. They were so cocky all week. The "game they wanted" said Chad Cornes. BUWAHAHAHAHA!

That was the most tense I've ever felt watching a game of footy. Much more so than the two Grand Finals.

The rivalry is so intense. Commentators on the radio here started having a go at each other on the air at the end of the game because one of them, a Crows fan, told the other, a Power fan, he was sour about the result.

I hope we beat the Eagles, but like many here, knocking out Port just about does it. You're right Panamark, probably is as sweet as the flag.
At least it feels that way today.

And how bad was Tredrea? How funny was that?

I've got a feeling the Swans will get up on Friday. Should be a cracker.

Yep, Swans and the Crows this week.

[BOMBER]

Scores in the finals tipping stay the same as we all picked the same.
Winners are grinners.

This weekends preliminaries - Saints
- Crows

Really looking forward to watching the midfield battle between Adelaide and the Coasters,should be a cracking game.

[SweetSecrets]

Originally posted by ashstralia
marky!!!

i hope you got a couple of tickets to the next eels game.

then mary can see some REAL football. (and some biff!)




:)

I checked out the rugby and there was almost as many stoppages as American football. (This is coming from an American football fan).

Also, we wanted to watch a sport born in Australia. Hehe...Not some British import shit. (LOOK...MARY IS ALREADY AN AUSSIE!!!)

Also, we wanted to sit in a packed stadium with thousands of other screaming Aussies...not some empty ghost town with tumble weeds blowing around it (That comment came from Mark after he saw the crowd the NRL got at Telstra Stadium.)

Carn the Swannies!!! And good luck to the Parrametta Eels :) !

[SweetSecrets]

Mark tips the Swans and the Crows for this week. Mary seconds that :).

We will actually be in Melbourne when the Swans play the Saints. Go Swans!

[SweetSecrets]

Originally posted by Grant
I was there too, mate. Whereabouts were you two were watching it? I didn't think they'd make it after Bazza dropped the ball in the last minute. We went absolutely fucking crazy when Davis kicked that goal through. Called BOMBER after it happened but I don't think he hear me properly lol. Bring on the Saints!

We were in the noble stand sitting right next to the umpires chase (where they walk through to get to the field) bordering the members' stand, about ten rows back.

It was so much more entertaining then American football....even American football in the Neyland Stadium in Knoxville. I was sporting my Swannies Scarf that Mark bought me. Mark is a Carlton supporter, but we decided to back Sydney in the finals cause that is where our home is! ;)

[BOMBER]

Originally posted by SweetSecrets
We were in the noble stand sitting right next to the umpires chase (where they walk through to get to the field) bordering the members' stand, about ten rows back.

It was so much more entertaining then American football....even American football in the Neyland Stadium in Knoxville. I was sporting my Swannies Scarf that Mark bought me. Mark is a Carlton supporter, but we decided to back Sydney in the finals cause that is where our home is! ;)
That's great that you like the game,we think it is the best game in the world down here.
Wait until you see a Carlton v Essendon game in years to come when both clubs are up and firing again.The rivalry is intense and it's not uncommon to get crowds of 95,000.
Are you guys going to the Swans v Saints game or just going to be in town whilst the game is on?

[Grant]

Originally posted by SweetSecrets
And good luck to the Parrametta Eels :) !

GO THE DRAGONS!!! :)

[BOMBER]

Originally posted by Grant
GO THE DRAGONS!!! :)
GO THE STORM!!!:)

Come on guys,enough about the bum sniffing code in the AFL thread.;)

[Halen High]

I second that.

And after all that stuff about beating Port is enough ...... fuck that I want a flag!

GO CROWS!!!

And GO SWANS! I don't want the Saints to get a Grand Final after they crucified our Messiah.

[Halen High]

Oh well, we were just not quite good enough.
Great effort though.
Beating the Eagles twice in a row at Subiaco was a tall order. We really stuffed it up against the Saints. That was the one we needed to win.

Over here, almost every football commentator has written off the Swans. On Saturday, the talk here was that whoever won between the Eagles and the Crows would definately win the flag.

I think it's an even money bet.

And Barry Hall should play.

[BOMBER]

He just copped one week - I think we are looking at court action here for sure.
If you can't beat them,join them.
GO SWANS

[ashstralia]

GO TIGERS!!!!!

[ashstralia]

Originally posted by SweetSecrets
I checked out the rugby and there was almost as many stoppages as American football. (This is coming from an American football fan).

Also, we wanted to watch a sport born in Australia. Hehe...Not some British import shit. (LOOK...MARY IS ALREADY AN AUSSIE!!!)

Also, we wanted to sit in a packed stadium with thousands of other screaming Aussies...not some empty ghost town with tumble weeds blowing around it (That comment came from Mark after he saw the crowd the NRL got at Telstra Stadium.)

Carn the Swannies!!! And good luck to the Parrametta Eels :) !

mary, i respect your opinion, but gayFL is a pussy game.
i wanna see 13 big fit blokes running full tilt into 13 other big fit blokes.

[ashstralia]

Originally posted by Halen High
And Barry Hall should play.

if barry gets sidelined for that love tap,
there's something wrong.

[BOMBER]

Originally posted by ashstralia
mary, i respect your opinion, but gayFL is a pussy game.
i wanna see 13 big fit blokes running full tilt into 13 other big fit blokes.
13 big fit blokes running full tilt into 13 other big fit blokes who then sniff each others arses to make the game a little more complex.
I'll check out the rock apes at the zoo rather than watching an NRL game.
Isn't NRL the game where you go ram your finger up someones arsehole?
:rolleyes:

[Grant]

Originally posted by ashstralia
GO TIGERS!!!!!

I'm very fearful of you blokes this weekend.

[Panamark]

G'day Guys !

Just got back from Melbourne, saw the game live on TV.

GO THE SWANNIES !!!

Have to laugh at ASH's comments. The Swans have been
front page news everyday in Rugby's headquarters (NSW)
The fitness comment also cracked me up. Our players average
30km a game, but the Rugby field is so short they wouldnt even
make 10k's.

Im not anti-rugby, I can watch it, but it sure is a slow game to
watch after a good game of Australian football. English sports
are always a bit slow.. (Fucking soccer is like pulling teeth,
0-0 draws, WHAT EXCITEMENT !!!!)

Anyhoo, Carn the EELS in the Bum sniffers this week,
and CARN THE SWANNIES IN THE AUSTRALIAN FOOTBALL !!!

[Halen High]

I'm tipping the Swans.

The Eagle's form has been poor for weeks now, and I didn't think they looked impressive in the win over the Crows either.

The Eagles also look a little unsettled with a couple of key players going down with injury at the worst possible time.

Get ready to party Panamark!

[ashstralia]

just a friendly dig, guys!

GO SWANNIES!!!

[Panamark]

WELL WELL WELL !!!


The Mighty Swans did the impossible.
AFL's Holy Grail off to NRL heartland for the first time.
After seeing them get so blatantly ripped off by the
umpires in West Aust in the first game against the
Eagles, this win was poetic justice.

Great Stuff !!

Methinks there will be a ticker tape parade up George St.
I wonder how a certain AFL chief who criticised the Swans
for their style of play earlier in the year is feeling today ? :)

That Mark that Leo Barry took had me leaping off the couch.
I think the whole of Australia (except WA) wanted this victory.

Now, onto those draft picks for the Mighty Blues :D

[Jahuli]

BAZZA!!!!!!!!!!

I went over to me mates house and watched on one of those massive projector screens. Swans Win!!!!!!!!
First time in 70 somethin years .

[ashstralia]

o'loughlin and goodes played great, too.

GO TIGERS!!!!!!!

[BOMBER]

Congrats to the Swans - Great to see all the old timers get to celebrate.
The Swans seem like a very humble bunch which made this premiership win very popular.

[Halen High]

Okay, here's my take on the Grand Final.

I've been watching VFL/AFL Grand Finals since the late 70s. Disregarding the exciting finish and taking the game as a whole, the 2005 Grand Final is without a doubt the worst one I've seen.

Why? Apart from a few exceptions, the game was completely lacking in any kind of technical quality. Many great athletes with hearts of steel all over the park, but when was someone gonna play some footy?

Where were the skills?
Where was the composure?

Yes, it was a great contest, but it was also a monumental scrap from start to finish.

Guys like Judd and Cousins just throwing it on the boot and hoping for the best all day.

I'm not sure where our game is headed. But I'm not liking what I see.

Panamark, Bomber, I'll say this, the great Carlton and Essendon sides of the 80s were a hell of a lot better to watch than this.

Surely it's not all about a contest.

[BOMBER]

I've seen a few Swans games this year and they play this lock down style of football which results in scrimage after scrimage.
Can't say they're the most attractive team in the comp to watch but they proved they were the most effective.
They did have the rub of the green on saturday with injuries etc,however it was great to see them finally end the drought.
How was Staker running into an open goal?
All as he had to do was pick up the ball with 2 hands and not go the flashy 1 hand pickup?

[Halen High]

Yeah, I remember Staker. Would that have put the Eagles 16 points up? When the Eagles went 10 points up after that goal from Hunter, I think it was, I thought they would go on and win it.

[Jahuli]

Originally posted by Halen High
Okay, here's my take on the Grand Final.

I've been watching VFL/AFL Grand Finals since the late 70s. Disregarding the exciting finish and taking the game as a whole, the 2005 Grand Final is without a doubt the worst one I've seen.

Why? Apart from a few exceptions, the game was completely lacking in any kind of technical quality. Many great athletes with hearts of steel all over the park, but when was someone gonna play some footy?

Where were the skills?
Where was the composure?

Yes, it was a great contest, but it was also a monumental scrap from start to finish.

Guys like Judd and Cousins just throwing it on the boot and hoping for the best all day.

I'm not sure where our game is headed. But I'm not liking what I see.

Panamark, Bomber, I'll say this, the great Carlton and Essendon sides of the 80s were a hell of a lot better to watch than this.

Surely it's not all about a contest.


Very True. But what can we do to change the game?

[BOMBER]

Oh well,another season comes to a finish.
On reflection I have to say that it was a cracking finals series,close games galore.
Next weeks trade week,should be more than interesting to see what happens here.Lance is tipped to be heading to the Demons.

Just want to say it's been great shooting the shit here in this AFL thread with you guys,especially P'Mark and H'High,you guys know your football.

[ashstralia]

LIKE A TIGERRRRRRR!!!!!!

:D

[BOMBER]

First big bombshell of trade week is that Campo has walked out on Carlton.
He is linked with the Kanga's and dare I say it the Bombers.

[BOMBER]

You out there Panamark and Halen High?

[BOMBER]

Originally posted by BOMBER
You out there Panamark and Halen High?
I love repeating myself.:(

You guys have left me drawing the conclusion that both Carton and Adelaide are in for stinkas this year.
Suits me,the red and black army is ready to march.:)

[Panamark]

2007, here we go again ! BOMBER !!
We have a distinguised guest amongst us,
PlexiHead ! An AFL legend !

Looks like the Bombers and the Blues have
far better sides than last year, I watched the
game last nigh (GO THE BLUES) and I cant
believe how much faster and skillful the Blues
look. Essendon too...

Time to get back into it, all Aussies on deck :)

[Plexi Head]

Originally posted by Panamark
2007, here we go again ! BOMBER !!
We have a distinguised guest amongst us,
PlexiHead ! An AFL legend !

Looks like the Bombers and the Blues have
far better sides than last year, I watched the
game last nigh (GO THE BLUES) and I cant
believe how much faster and skillful the Blues
look. Essendon too...

Time to get back into it, all Aussies on deck :)

Plexi Head, an EX AFL HACK!

Hey Bomber, how ya going mate? It is THE Bomber from the Links?

Now Panamark, no more distiguished guest bullshit, I've been round here long enough to be considered just another Army douchebag who hates the Links. OK!

By the way, the pies will do all right, we have a secret weapon all the way from Ireland who is going to do the business for sure for sure.

[BOMBER]

How was the Collingwood Hall of Fame night the other evening?
I read in the paper that it was a big night for you guys with Dennis Banks getting inducted.
Ye're mate,it's the same BOMBER that peddles the same shit about the EFC over at the LInks - 3 wins in a season as you can imagine had me pretty quiet last year mate.

Panamark,congrats on the win in the NAB Cup.
Let's hope for your sake history doesn't repeat from 2 years ago.If you compare the lists from now to then there wouldn't be too much chance of that happening.
I'm not so sure about the Dons mate,I think it will come down to injuries mate,we don't have much depth.Look out for Leroy Jedda and Aaron Davey's brother Alwyn to make an immeadiate impact for us.

Bombers ladder prediction for 2007

Sydney
Freo
W.Coast
Saints
Demons
Crows
Bulldogs
Bombers

Blues
Cats
Hawks
Kangas
Lions
Kangas
Collingwood
Richmond


Coleman Medal - Matthew Lloyd
Brownlow Medal - Adam McPhee
Norwich Rising Star - Leroy Jedda

[Panamark]

G'day Charles and the Bomber Man !! :D

Cant believe we are on the eve of another season.
Thats quite a prediction list there BOMBER...
I want to see each team play at least one game
before making the same prediction. I didnt get
to see every NAB game in Sydernee..

Glad to see the Blues higher up in your expectations.
Just below the Bombers, hey ?? lol...

Plexi, did you see the Blues recruited Greg Swann ?
(Did you have anything to do with him ?)
So who is the mystery Irishman for the Pies ?
What do you think of O'hailpin at Carlton ? These
Irish dudes are starting to kick ass !

Bomber, I respectfully would have to predict
Fevola for the Coleman. Same as last year.
I reckon he is looking even more dangerous
this year. In fact the new rules (hands in the back)
will really boost the likes of Fev and Lloyd..
Could be a major shootout for the title !
Should start seeing bags of 100+ again.

Im assuming the AFL is keeping this rule for
the season proper ? I like it. The defenders must
fucking hate it..lol...

Will have to get the tips in by Friday ! WOOHOO
Bring it on !! :D

[Panamark]

http://www.afl.com.au/Season2007/FixturesResults/2007ToyotaAFLPremiershipFixture/tabid/8543/Default.aspx

[Panamark]

Man, this is hard first up, havent seen all the sides play
yet this year. But here goes nothing. Hey Bomber dont
we get a bonus point if we pick all the winners ??

Saints
Freo
Maggies
Lions
West Coast
Crows
Dogs
Blues

[Grant]

Originally posted by BOMBER
Bombers ladder prediction for 2007

Sydney
Freo
W.Coast
Saints
Demons
Crows
Bulldogs
Bombers

Blues
Cats
Hawks
Kangas
Lions
Kangas
Collingwood
Richmond

Good man. ;)

[Panamark]

G'day Grant !

How goes it ?

Whats your tips ??

Good to see some more Aussies checkin in..

[Grant]

Hey Panamark!

Doing good for Friday, mate. Will be catching the Swans tomorrow night out at Homebush - should be a cracker of a game! Bring on footy season! :cool:

I'm going all the home teams this week:

Melbourne
Kangaroos
Fremantle
Brisbane
Sydney
Adelaide (sorry BOMBER)
Bulldogs
Blues

[Dan]

This Thread is Gay.:D

[Dan]

Go Melbourne.

[Panamark]

Originally posted by Dan
This Thread is Gay.:D

Hopoate is Gay

[Dan]

Originally posted by Panamark
Hopoate is Gay

Only if you like Finger Food.:D

[Panamark]

I hear the Scotch Finger Biscuits...

GO THE MIGHTY BLUES !!

And Bomber, what an awesome win !
Always great beating the crows on their
turf with 2 million croweaters against ya !

Plexi and Bomber, we are all in the 8, so far so good !
So when does everyone start tipping ? Im feeling a bit
lonely in here :)

Apart from old Dan, the booger eating Bumsniffer !! :D

Hey Dan, I bet you dont take your missus to the Footy.
She would be forever jumping the fence to graze on that
lovely grass :p

(Oh man, gotta love the Kiwis !!)

[Grant]

Fuck, I suck!

[Panamark]

Grant !!
Crikies, I didnt see that you actually tipped this week..
Seems you and I are the only ones...
Sorry dude, my humble apologies.
(I didnt see your tips until now)

Bummer about the Swans..
Kangaroos should have won too....

These are the one we got right..

Grant:

Brisbane
Bulldogs
Blues

Pana:

Saints
Maggies
Lions
West Coast
Dogs
Blues


Bomber had a good rules system happening for this,
something like you get the home teams if you dont tip..
Im sure theres about 4-5 tipsters who didnt tip this
week...

Wheres Halen High ?? Maximus ?? Ashtralia ??
Dan (With some serious tips) Maximus...
Im sure theres more...

Plexi and Bomber...

To all the AFL Vampires, Come out Come out wherever
you are !!

[Grant]

It's all good Panamark, no need to apologise for anything, mate. My tips will be worthless anyway mate, I'm too NRL oriented.

Yeah, Swans are a frustrating bunch when it comes to putting goals away. Barry Hall needs to find more momentum. Maybe se should seriously think about enrolling back into 'Barry Hall HALL'.

[Dan]

Melbourne had another good start.:rolleyes:

31 points,come on Boys.

[Dan]

Brisbane Lions Vs St Kilda

Going to put My V.B money on St Kilda.

[Dan]

Originally posted by Dan
Brisbane Lions Vs St Kilda

Going to put My V.B money on St Kilda.

I mean Brisbane.:D

Good game,Brisbane was the better team on the night.

[Dan]

Richmond Vs Sydney.My pick Richmond.

West Coast Eagles Vs Collingwood.My pick Collingwood.

Carlton Vs Geelong.My pick Carlton.

[Dan]

Originally posted by Dan
Richmond Vs Sydney.My pick Richmond.

West Coast Eagles Vs Collingwood.My pick Collingwood.

Carlton Vs Geelong.My pick Carlton.

Fuck,Richmond 72,Sydney 88.:(

[Panamark]

Yeah, I just watched it..

Once the swans have a 2 goal lead and
5 minutes left, they will usually win everytime.
Those bastards are the worst for keepings off
at the end of the game !! (And Sydney is my
second side)

I see Carlton are going in as underdogs with the bookies
tonight.. I hope they can prove em wrong..

I will pick Carlton and West Coast for tonight..
Hopefully we can get the whole gang tipping
again...

Cheers Dan :)



I didnt put my tips in for the week as it seems everyone
lost interest when WB took us off air again..

[Dan]

Not having any luck so far picking any of the Teams.Early days and round 2 has just started.

If Collingwood and Cartlon don't came throught tonight,looks like the kids will be singing for their Supper Tonight.:D

Haven't seen Max or Ash around.:(

[Dan]

Dan's picking rate so far 0-5.:(

[Grant]

My tips for this week:

Collingwood
Essendon
Adelaide
St Kilda
West Coast
Sydney
Cats
Hawks

[Dan]

Ok, Grant here is my pick this week.

Collingwood
Carlton
Port Adelaide
West Coast Eagles
St kilda
Brisbane
Melbourne
Hawthorn

[Panamark]

Sorry guys, Im going to have to put my picks in starting
again this week.. Just got back from a Holiday..

I tell you what, after watching Carlton beat the Umpires and
Essendon, after being 48 poiints down at halftime..
They can sop the season now, I dont give a shit what happens
now, that was the best comeback in the face of adversity
I've ever seen...

It doesnt get any better than that. Wheres me old mate BOMBER ? :D


I feel even better than the 1999 preliminary..

GO THE BLUE BAGGERS !!!! YOU FUCKING BEAUTY !!

[Dan]

Originally posted by Panamark
Sorry guys, Im going to have to put my picks in starting
again this week.. Just got back from a Holiday..

I tell you what, after watching Carlton beat the Umpires and
Essendon, after being 48 poiints down at halftime..
They can sop the season now, I dont give a shit what happens
now, that was the best comeback in the face of adversity
I've ever seen...

It doesnt get any better than that. Wheres me old mate BOMBER ? :D


I feel even better than the 1999 preliminary..

GO THE BLUE BAGGERS !!!! YOU FUCKING BEAUTY !!

Hi Mark,

Still 5 more games to go this week,what are your picks?

[Panamark]

Ok...

I would have picked Carlton for sure (Always do)
So you can count that one...
I wouldnt have tipped Collingwood..
I would have tipped Adelaid3e Crows.

West Coast
Bulldogs
Sydney
Geelong
Kangaroos....

[Dan]

Melbourne needs a Win this weekend.It's not a good look at the bottom of the table so far for 4 teams.

[Panamark]

Hey I know that feeling ! :)

I hope they come good too. I dont mind the
old Demons..

[Dan]

So far there is Mark,Grant and Dan picking this weekend.

Any sign of Max anywhere?

[Dan]

Originally posted by Dan
Ok, Grant here is my pick this week.

Collingwood
Carlton
Port Adelaide
West Coast Eagles
St kilda
Brisbane
Melbourne
Hawthorn

5/8 this week Boys.

Still no win from Melbourne yet.

[Grant]

Here's my tips for this week:

Richmond
Collingwood
St Kilda
Brisbane
Sydney
Geelong
Melbourne
West Coast

[Dan]

This Weekends Pick,Round 4.

Richmond for there first Win.:)
Collingwood
St Kilda
Brisbane
Adelaide
Geelong
Melbourne bottom of the table clash.(Hoping for first points on the board.)
West Coast Eagles are on Fire This Season.

[Panamark]

Hi Guys,

Huge blow to Carlton losing Nick Stevens for the year.
He has been our engineroom and dominating the mid-field.
Not sure how the Blues will patch that hole..

Dan, do you get all the AFL replays in NZ, is that how you
got into it ? Just curious.

Doggies
Pies
Saints
Lions
Crows
Hawks
Melbourne ! (For Dan)
Blues

[Dan]

Originally posted by Panamark
Hi Guys,

Huge blow to Carlton losing Nick Stevens for the year.
He has been our engineroom and dominating the mid-field.
Not sure how the Blues will patch that hole..

Dan, do you get all the AFL replays in NZ, is that how you
got into it ? Just curious.

Doggies
Pies
Saints
Lions
Crows
Hawks
Melbourne ! (For Dan)
Blues

Hi Mark,We used to play the game at High School.Sky T.V has most of the games Live.I watch the replays when I can.

I have only be to The M.C.G. once and that's one Huge ground.Never seen any games but going on The M.C.G Tour you get a little feel of what a sold out game would be like.

[Panamark]

Dan,

MCG is awesome, I remember going there as a small
child in the late 70's sitting on Dad's shoulders.
It was one of those games where there was over 120,000..
I was actually scared when the siren sounded at the first
bounce and the crowd went nuts.. heheheh

[Dan]

Originally posted by Panamark
Dan,

MCG is awesome, I remember going there as a small
child in the late 70's sitting on Dad's shoulders.
It was one of those games where there was over 120,000..
I was actually scared when the siren sounded at the first
bounce and the crowd went nuts.. heheheh

Next time I'm over there I will make sure I see a Game.:)

[Grant]

Originally posted by Dan
Next time I'm over there I will make sure I see a Game.:)

I first met Bomber at the MCG about 2 years ago. It was a match between Hawks and Siants - Saints won. Back then it was under renovations, should be pretty good now, it was sure damn good place to watch the footy then. And being brought up with Rugby League, those Victorians are a passionate crazy bunch lol - it leaves a good impression.

BTW, Dan, Australia v NZ tonight in the League. You follow it?

[Dan]

Originally posted by Grant
I first met Bomber at the MCG about 2 years ago. It was a match between Hawks and Siants - Saints won. Back then it was under renovations, should be pretty good now, it was sure damn good place to watch the footy then. And being brought up with Rugby League, those Victorians are a passionate crazy bunch lol - it leaves a good impression.

BTW, Dan, Australia v NZ tonight in the League. You follow it?

Yes,First game in the ANZAC series.

Should be a Great game.

A lot of new players in the kiwi's team.

[Grant]

Originally posted by Dan
Yes,First game in the ANZAC series.

Should be a Great game.

A lot of new players in the kiwi's team.

Too bad Kidwell isn't there to give it to bloody Willie Mason. :)