Could someone explain to me why this is a bad idea?

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  • Seshmeister
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Oct 2003
    • 35162

    Could someone explain to me why this is a bad idea?

    I would particulrly like to hear from the 'Christians' on this one.

    I've had a moment of clarity.

    It's actually pretty fucking straightforward.

    Military Spending

    Country In Billion Dollars
    United States 335.7
    Japan 46.7
    United Kingdom 36
    France 33.6
    China 31.1
    Germany 27.7
    Saudi Arabia 21.6
    Italy 21.1
    Iran 17.5
    South Korea 13.5


    From http://borgenproject.org/Cost_of_Ending_Poverty.html

    How much it would cost to sort shit out?

    • Eliminate Starvation and Malnutrition ($19 billion)
    • Provide Shelter ($21 billion)
    • Remove Landmines ($4 billion)
    • Eliminate Nuclear Weapons ($7 billion)
    • Refugee Relief ($5 billion)
    • Eliminate Illiteracy ($5 billion)
    • Provide Clean, Safe Water ($10 billion)
    • Stabilize Population ($10.5 billion)
    • Prevent Soil Erosion ($24 billion)

    At the moment 33 000 kids die each DAY from starvation. The last possible excuse for the Iraq war is that Saddam killed 300 000 over a 15 yeqar period.

    That's the equivalent of less than 2 weeks of poverty deaths.

    So say the US reduces military spending by a third. It still leaves her with a military budget 5 times what anyone else has. We keep the shortfall in the US economy by converting a third of US forces into an anti poverty/shit army. These guys gain skills in more diverse areas than cleaning rifles and will find it easier to get jobs post service. Plus noone shoots at them.

    Most of the money won't even leave the US economy because it can provide the food, water puification plants, teachers. blankets, houses etc.

    Terrorism wiped out at a stroke because you're the good guys.

    What would Jesus do?

    Cheers!

    Last edited by Seshmeister; 02-28-2005, 12:28 AM.
  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49136

    #2
    I don't know where you got the figures from but you low-balled the US. We're spending $421 Billion on defense this year.

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    • Seshmeister
      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

      • Oct 2003
      • 35162

      #3
      I thought that.

      I think the figure is a couple of years out of date.

      It just makes my case more strongly.

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      • Full Bug
        Crazy Ass Mofo
        • Jan 2004
        • 2915

        #4
        Peace comes at a hefty price....
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        • Seshmeister
          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

          • Oct 2003
          • 35162

          #5
          But much less than war

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          • Full Bug
            Crazy Ass Mofo
            • Jan 2004
            • 2915

            #6
            True....
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            • Nickdfresh
              SUPER MODERATOR

              • Oct 2004
              • 49136

              #7
              Originally posted by Seshmeister
              I thought that.

              I think the figure is a couple of years out of date.

              It just makes my case more strongly.
              It does make your case more so.

              I wonder where the money goes sometimes, and why we don't have forts on the moon by now for that kind of money?!!

              I was going over the equipment used by the Black Watch Regiment and marvelled at how well equipped they are despite the smaller budgets. Where does it all go in the US? I know when I was in the US Army, I lived in shitty barracks for a while, so it's definitely NOT "quality of life."

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              • Seshmeister
                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                • Oct 2003
                • 35162

                #8
                I bet the owners of the defense contractors live pretty well...

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                • Nickdfresh
                  SUPER MODERATOR

                  • Oct 2004
                  • 49136

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Seshmeister
                  I bet the owners of the defense contractors live pretty well...
                  YUP! And I bet the Generals that retire from the US Military and become lobbyists also live well.

                  But I guess the short answer to my question would be R & D. But I still think it's bullshit that we spend so much. I mean, when any army buys a weapon system, it's payed for and remains in service for 20-30 years (with improvements and rebuilds). But still, how can we pay so fucking much?

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                  • Cathedral
                    ROTH ARMY ELITE
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 6620

                    #10
                    Sesh, You have posted a thread that i totally agree with, and who'd have thunk it when politics or religion are involved?

                    We have never really seen eye to eye on issues of political substance, but i salute you for this one.

                    Roth On, Broham!

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                    • John Ashcroft
                      Veteran
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 2127

                      #11
                      Re: Could someone explain to me why this is a bad idea?

                      Originally posted by Seshmeister
                      I would particulrly like to hear from the 'Christians' on this one.

                      I've had a moment of clarity.

                      It's actually pretty fucking straightforward.

                      Military Spending

                      Country In Billion Dollars
                      United States 335.7
                      Japan 46.7
                      United Kingdom 36
                      France 33.6
                      China 31.1
                      Germany 27.7
                      Saudi Arabia 21.6
                      Italy 21.1
                      Iran 17.5
                      South Korea 13.5


                      From http://borgenproject.org/Cost_of_Ending_Poverty.html

                      How much it would cost to sort shit out?

                      • Eliminate Starvation and Malnutrition ($19 billion)
                      • Provide Shelter ($21 billion)
                      • Remove Landmines ($4 billion)
                      • Eliminate Nuclear Weapons ($7 billion)
                      • Refugee Relief ($5 billion)
                      • Eliminate Illiteracy ($5 billion)
                      • Provide Clean, Safe Water ($10 billion)
                      • Stabilize Population ($10.5 billion)
                      • Prevent Soil Erosion ($24 billion)

                      At the moment 33 000 kids die each DAY from starvation. The last possible excuse for the Iraq war is that Saddam killed 300 000 over a 15 yeqar period.

                      That's the equivalent of less than 2 weeks of poverty deaths.

                      So say the US reduces military spending by a third. It still leaves her with a military budget 5 times what anyone else has. We keep the shortfall in the US economy by converting a third of US forces into an anti poverty/shit army. These guys gain skills in more diverse areas than cleaning rifles and will find it easier to get jobs post service. Plus noone shoots at them.

                      Most of the money won't even leave the US economy because it can provide the food, water puification plants, teachers. blankets, houses etc.

                      Terrorism wiped out at a stroke because you're the good guys.

                      What would Jesus do?

                      Cheers!

                      I've got it, we'll just create a "department of peace" in the U.S., and create an international "league of nations" that will declare war illegal! That'll free up all the money you seek for socialism!

                      Silly hippie.

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                      • Full Bug
                        Crazy Ass Mofo
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 2915

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Cathedral
                        Sesh, You have posted a thread that i totally agree with, and who'd have thunk it when politics or religion are involved?

                        We have never really seen eye to eye on issues of political substance, but i salute you for this one.

                        Roth On, Broham!
                        Not bad for a guy that wears a kilt.(Cough* skirt cough*)
                        Diamond Mafia Forever - 4. To restore fullbug to the prominent place in this board, after various serious attacks by hitch1969 have now damaged his reputation and now is reguarded as a "Retarded, Stoned, Canadian, Dog finger bangin' fuckup"

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                        • Seshmeister
                          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                          • Oct 2003
                          • 35162

                          #13
                          Originally posted by John Ashcroft
                          I've got it, we'll just create a "department of peace" in the U.S., and create an international "league of nations" that will declare war illegal! That'll free up all the money you seek for socialism!

                          Silly hippie.
                          Who said anything about war or league of nations or socialism?

                          You can't think outside the box because of your military training.

                          With my plan you would have got a better job when you left the military.

                          And BigBadBill might even have a job...

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                          • BigBadBrian
                            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 10620

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Seshmeister


                            You can't think outside the box because of your military training.

                            The phrase "think outside the box" was officially obsolete five years ago.
                            “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                            • Jesterstar
                              Crazy Ass Mofo
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 2844

                              #15
                              The Secret orders are funneling cash.
                              Seshmeister is such a STUD.........OOOOOOOOOO

                              http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/im...cnesbitt_1.jpg

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