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  • Pontius Pilate
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    • Jan 2005
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    Muslim Invaders Forcing The Dutch out of their Country!

    From NYT:

    February 27, 2005
    More Dutch Plan to Emigrate as Muslim Influx Tips Scales
    By MARLISE SIMONS

    AMSTERDAM - Paul Hiltemann had already noticed a darkening mood in the Netherlands. He runs an agency for people wanting to emigrate and his client list had surged.

    But he was still taken aback in November when a Dutch filmmaker was shot and his throat was slit, execution style, on an Amsterdam street.

    In the weeks that followed, Mr. Hiltemann was inundated by e-mail messages and telephone calls. "There was a big panic," he said, "a flood of people saying they wanted to leave the country."

    Leave this stable and prosperous corner of Europe? Leave this land with its generous social benefits and ample salaries, a place of fine schools, museums, sports grounds and bicycle paths, all set in a lively democracy?

    The answer, increasingly, is yes. This small nation is a magnet for immigrants, but statistics suggest there is a quickening flight of the white middle class. Dutch people pulling up roots said they felt a general pessimism about their small and crowded country and about the social tensions that had grown along with the waves of newcomers, most of them Muslims."The Dutch are living in a kind of pressure cooker atmosphere," Mr. Hiltemann said.

    There is more than the concern about the rising complications of absorbing newcomers, now one-tenth of the population, many of them from largely Muslim countries. Many Dutch also seem bewildered that their country, run for decades on a cozy, political consensus, now seems so tense and prickly and bent on confrontation. Those leaving have been mostly lured by large English-speaking nations like Australia, New Zealand and Canada, where they say they hope to feel less constricted.

    In interviews, emigrants rarely cited a fear of militant Islam as their main reason for packing their bags. But the killing of the filmmaker Theo van Gogh, a fierce critic of fundamentalist Muslims, seems to have been a catalyst.

    "Our Web site got 13,000 hits in the weeks after the van Gogh killing," said Frans Buysse, who runs an agency that handles paperwork for departing Dutch. "That's four times the normal rate."

    Mr. van Gogh's killing is the only one the police have attributed to an Islamic militant, but since then they have reported finding death lists by local Islamic militants with the names of six prominent politicians. The effects still reverberate. In a recent opinion poll, 35 percent of the native Dutch questioned had negative views about Islam.

    There are no precise figures on the numbers now leaving. But Canadian, Australian and New Zealand diplomats here said that while immigration papers were processed in their home capitals, embassy officials here had been swamped by inquiries in recent months.

    Many who settle abroad may not appear in migration statistics, like the growing contingent of retirees who flock to warmer places. But official statistics show a trend. In 1999, nearly 30,000 native Dutch moved elsewhere, according to the Central Bureau of Statistics. For 2004, the provisional figure is close to 40,000. "It's definitely been picking up in the past five years," said Cor Kooijmans, a demographer at the bureau.

    Ruud Konings, an accountant, has just sold his comfortable home in the small town of Hilvarenbeek. In March, after a year's worth of paperwork, the family will leave for Australia. The couple said the main reason was their fear for the welfare and security of their two teenage children.

    "When I grew up, this place was spontaneous and free, but my kids cannot safely cycle home at night," said Mr. Konings, 49. "My son just had his fifth bicycle stolen." At school, his children and their friends feel uneasy, he added. "They're afraid of being roughed up by the gangs of foreign kids."

    Sandy Sangen has applied to move to Norway with her husband and two school-age children. They want to buy a farm in what she calls "a safer, more peaceful place."

    Like the Sangens and Koningses, others who are moving speak of their yearning for the open spaces, the clean air, the easygoing civility they feel they have lost. Complaints include overcrowding, endless traffic jams, overregulation. Some cite a rise in antisocial behavior and a worrying new toughness and aggression both in political debates and on the streets.

    Until the killing of Pim Fortuyn, a populist anti-immigration politician, in 2002 and the more recent slaying of a teacher by a student, this generation of Dutch people could not conceive of such violence in their peaceful country.

    After Mr. van Gogh's killing, angry demonstrations and fire-bombings of mosques and Muslim schools took place. In revenge, some Christian churches were attacked. Mr. Konings said he and many of his friends sensed more confrontation in the making, perhaps more violence.

    "I'm a great optimist, but we're now caught in a downward spiral, economically and socially," he said. "We feel we can give our children a better start somewhere else."

    Marianne and Rene Aukens, from the rural town of Brunssum, had successful careers, he as director of a local bank, she as a personnel manager. But after much thought they have applied to go to New Zealand. "In my lifetime, all the villages around here have merged, almost all the green spaces have been paved over," said Mr. Aukens, 41. "Nature is finished. There's no more silence; you hear traffic everywhere."

    The saying that the Netherlands is "full up" has become a national mantra. It was used cautiously at first, because it had an overtone of being anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim. But many of those interviewed now state it flatly, like Peter Bles. He makes a long commute to a banking job in Amsterdam, but he and his wife are preparing to move to Australia.

    "We found people are more polite, less stressed, less aggressive there," Mr. Bles said. "Perhaps stress has a lot to do with the lack of living space. Here we are full up."

    Space is indeed at a premium here in Europe's most densely populated nation, where 16.3 million people live in an area roughly the size of Maryland. Denmark, which is slightly larger, has 5.5 million people. Dutch demographers say their country has undergone one of Europe's fastest and most far-reaching demographic shifts, with about 10 percent of the population now foreign born, a majority of them Muslims.

    Blaming immigrants for many ills has become commonplace. Conservative Moroccans and Turks from rural areas are accused of disdaining the liberal Dutch ways and of making little effort to adapt. Immigrant youths now make up half the prison population. More than 40 percent of immigrants receive some form of government assistance, a source of resentment among native Dutch. Immigrants say, though, that they are widely discriminated against.

    Ms. Konings said the Dutch themselves brought on some of the social frictions. The Dutch "thought that we had to adapt to the immigrants and that we had to give them handouts," she said. "We've been too lenient; now it's difficult to turn the tide."

    To Mr. Hiltemann, the emigration consultant, what is remarkable is not only the surge of interest among the Dutch in leaving, but also the type of people involved. "They are successful people, I mean, urban professionals, managers, physiotherapists, computer specialists," he said. Five years ago, he said, most of his clients were farmers looking for more land.

    Mr. Buysse, who employs a staff of eight to process visas, concurred. He said farmers were still emigrating as Europe cut agricultural subsidies. '"What is new," he said, "is that Dutch people who are rich or at least very comfortable are now wanting to leave the country."
    Originally posted by scorpioboy33
    you are a piece of garbage...a nothing...a zero...you don't matter....you make me sick...karma has a way of biting you in the ass when you least expect it ...expect it...!
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  • Phil theStalker
    Full Member Status

    • Jan 2004
    • 3806

    #2
    This all started with Perestrokia.

    You will lose your traditional cultural identities in Europe by law (EU) to accept these diverse people immigrating into Europe by design to bring down sovereignty of European nations for a one world government and a global socialist economy.

    The same thing is happening to America with the destruction of the American traditon by mainly Spanish third worlders from Puerto Rico, and Central and South Americas which involves trade agreements and immigration as the EU global one world government plan is doing to marvelously.

    It really is.

    You people haven't got a chance.

    Your Europe is being destroyed by plan, and so is America.

    This is the same plan being used all across the world.

    It's a one world government plan and it's tyranny.

    Hey, so it happens.


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    • Pontius Pilate
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      • Jan 2005
      • 54

      #3
      Originally posted by Phil theStalker
      This all started with Perestrokia.

      You will lose your traditional cultural identities in Europe by law (EU) to accept these diverse people immigrating into Europe by design to bring down sovereignty of European nations for a one world government and a global socialist economy.

      The same thing is happening to America with the destruction of the American traditon by mainly Spanish third worlders from Puerto Rico, and Central and South Americas which involves trade agreements and immigration as the EU global one world government plan is doing to marvelously.

      It really is.

      You people haven't got a chance.

      Your Europe is being destroyed by plan, and so is America.

      This is the same plan being used all across the world.

      It's a one world government plan and it's tyranny.

      Hey, so it happens.


      Yes it's true. It is the collaberating force of Liberals, Neo Cons, and some greedy members of the business community that is bringing about our decline.
      Originally posted by scorpioboy33
      you are a piece of garbage...a nothing...a zero...you don't matter....you make me sick...karma has a way of biting you in the ass when you least expect it ...expect it...!
      What is Truth?

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      • Phil theStalker
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        • Jan 2004
        • 3806

        #4
        Originally posted by Pontius Pilate
        Yes it's true. It is the collaberating force of Liberals, Neo Cons, and some greedy members of the business community that is bringing about our decline.
        On a foundation of complete lies.

        Get to know what the one world government really is.

        Spead the word.


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        • Phil theStalker
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          • Jan 2004
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          #5
          Originally posted by Pontius Pilate
          Yes it's true. It is the collaberating force of Liberals, Neo Cons, and some greedy members of the business community that is bringing about our decline.
          Does anyo1ne admit t2o being Dutch anymore?


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          • Phil theStalker
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            • Jan 2004
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            #6


            DUTCH
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            • Viking
              Veteran
              • Jan 2004
              • 1772

              #7
              My people have been castrated and turned into a harem of supplicating CUNTS.......all in the name of corrupt, deluded, politically correct United Nations NWO Socialism, and secular, Orwellian EU oppression. It's OK, though - Eurpoe shall be engulfed in a wave of barbarism and pagan primitivism, brought on by fear, subjugation, and apathy. Europe is slowly - surely - imploding, and coming generations shall piss on the graves of their forebearers for lacking the strength of will to prevent the devolution of their culture and Western Civilization in general. Hope you like seeing your bitches in burkas, eunuchs.

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              • JCOOK

                #8
                Originally posted by Phil theStalker
                This all started with Perestrokia.

                You will lose your traditional cultural identities in Europe by law (EU) to accept these diverse people immigrating into Europe by design to bring down sovereignty of European nations for a one world government and a global socialist economy.

                The same thing is happening to America with the destruction of the American traditon by mainly Spanish third worlders from Puerto Rico, and Central and South Americas which involves trade agreements and immigration as the EU global one world government plan is doing to marvelously.

                It really is.

                You people haven't got a chance.

                Your Europe is being destroyed by plan, and so is America.

                This is the same plan being used all across the world.

                It's a one world government plan and it's tyranny.

                Hey, so it happens.


                PHIL, You and I finally agree on something!

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                • UNCLAX72
                  Roadie
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 110

                  #9
                  the dutch have had it coming for a long time especially when they started legalizing homosexual nightclubs, sex changes, and even drugs. They deserve it. by the way, i don't trust a country with wooden dhoes

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                  • FORD
                    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                    • Jan 2004
                    • 58755

                    #10
                    Why do Busheep hate America?
                    Eat Us And Smile

                    Cenk For America 2024!!

                    Justice Democrats


                    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                    • BigBadBrian
                      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 10620

                      #11
                      Originally posted by FORD
                      Why do Busheep hate America?
                      Stupid assumption on many levels you People who voted for Bush simply didn't have any alternative....

                      Gore?

                      Kerry?




                      Hey...isn't it about time for the Rachel Corrie Memorial Pancake Breakfast? :p

                      “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                      • UNCLAX72
                        Roadie
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 110

                        #12
                        bush is the alternative to gore and kerry

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                        • Nickdfresh
                          SUPER MODERATOR

                          • Oct 2004
                          • 49127

                          #13
                          Originally posted by UNCLAX72
                          bush is the alternative to gore and kerry
                          Really? Are you sure?

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                          • Pontius Pilate
                            Groupie
                            • Jan 2005
                            • 54

                            #14
                            The Dutch must launch a Putsch against their government. The Dutch authorities have violated John Locke's rules of government. If the government will not protect person and property they are no longer legit.
                            Originally posted by scorpioboy33
                            you are a piece of garbage...a nothing...a zero...you don't matter....you make me sick...karma has a way of biting you in the ass when you least expect it ...expect it...!
                            What is Truth?

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