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  • Nickdfresh
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    • Oct 2004
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    US Army Struggles For Recruits.

    U.S. Army struggles for recruits amid Iraq war

    Sunday, March 6, 2005 Posted: 11:53 AM EST (1653 GMT)
    U.S. Army recruits in San Antonio, Texas, preparing to be sworn in on February 16.

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- Staff Sgt. Richard Guzman is on the front lines of one of the U.S. Army's toughest battles in years, and he's not in Iraq.

    He's an Army recruiter trying to coax young men and women into volunteering to serve at a time when U.S. ground forces are engaged in a war halfway around the world.

    "To me, recruiting used to be easy. Right now, you really have to hunt for those ones who really want to" serve, said Guzman, who recruits in New York City's Harlem section.

    Nearly two years into an Iraq war that has left more than 1,500 U.S. troops dead and another 11,200 wounded, recruiters like Guzman are having to work hard as the Army strives to sign up 80,000 recruits this year to replace soldiers leaving the service.

    The Army in February, for the first time in nearly five years, failed to achieve its monthly recruiting goal. It is in danger of missing its annual recruiting target for the first time since 1999.

    Recruiting for the Army's reserve component -- the National Guard and Army Reserve -- is suffering even more as the Pentagon relies heavily on these part-time soldiers to maintain troop levels in Iraq. The regular Army is 6 percent behind its year-to-date recruiting target, the Reserve is 10 percent behind, and the Guard is 26 percent short.

    The Marine Corps, the other service providing ground forces in Iraq, has its own difficulties.

    In January and February, the Marines missed their goal for signing up new recruits -- the first such shortfall in nearly a decade -- but remained a bit ahead of their target for shipping recruits into basic training.

    Iraq marks the first protracted conflict for U.S. forces since the end of the draft in 1973, which ushered in the era of the all-volunteer military.

    If the military fails to attract enough recruits and America maintains a large commitment in Iraq, the nation may have to consider some form of conscription, said Cato Institute defense analyst Charles Pena. "This is getting dicey," said Pena.

    Lt. Col. John Gillette, who commands the Army recruiting battalion in New York City, said young people and their families are asking questions about the war.

    "Instead of just talking specifically to the applicant, we're talking to the applicant's parents, and, in some cases, extended family -- aunts, uncles -- just to answer their questions and concerns as well," Gillette said.

    Guzman said he reassures families that a recruit will get the normal nine weeks of basic training and further individual training and not just be shoved in a uniform and sent into combat. "They think that after two weeks in basic training, they will be deployed overseas," Guzman said.

    Army Recruiting Command spokesman Douglas Smith said recruiters do everything they can to allay the apprehension of recruits and families. "But there are certain things that we just can't talk our way through or give a hard answer to, like, 'Will I be deployed?' That's just not something a recruiter can predict."

    The improving economy and civilian job opportunities also are factors in recruiting, Smith said.

    Army Secretary Francis Harvey said the active-duty and reserve components have added 3,000 recruiters since last year and increased enlistment bonuses to try to lure new soldiers.

    "So we've got a challenge, but we're certainly not going to give up," Harvey told a congressional panel.

    Defense analyst Loren Thompson of the Lexington Institute said there has been a migration of recruits away from the ground forces toward services less likely to be in harm's way in Iraq -- the Navy and Air Force.

    "There's a bottom line to the recruiting debate. People don't want to die," Thompson said.

    The problem is even more dire than it appears because the Army, through "stop-loss" orders, has forced thousands of soldiers designated for duty in Iraq and Afghanistan to remain in uniform when their volunteer service commitment ends, thus keeping recruiting needs artificially low, Pena said.

    Some of these soldiers may remain in the Army involuntarily for up to 18 months beyond when they were scheduled to leave.

    "The military can hold things together on a relatively short-term basis through some fairly extreme measures like 'stop-loss' and making much greater use of Reserve and Guard units to fill the requirements in Iraq," Pena said.

    "But you cannot do this indefinitely. At some point, you break the force. And the question is: how close are we to that breaking point?"

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    Last edited by Nickdfresh; 03-07-2005, 10:19 AM.
  • Nickdfresh
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    • Oct 2004
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    #2
    C'mon LOU! You should join, you're only 24 years old and talk a big "conservative" game. Hell, you might even impress a girl enough to sleep with you for once...well maybe.

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    • LoungeMachine
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Jul 2004
      • 32576

      #3
      And again I'd like any Neocon in here to explain something to me.

      Why do we send "National Guard" troops over there? Aren't they supposed to Guard our Nation? Especially in this time of increased "Homeland Security"

      They keep saying another attack is "inevitable", including Porter Goss, so why not have the National Guard Troops HERE ???
      Originally posted by Kristy
      Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
      Originally posted by cadaverdog
      I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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      • LoungeMachine
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Jul 2004
        • 32576

        #4
        Originally posted by Nickdfresh
        C'mon LOU! You should join, you're only 24 years old and talk a big "conservative" game. Hell, you might even impress a girl enough to sleep with you for once...well maybe.
        Remember Lou......

        Don't Ask Don't Tell
        Originally posted by Kristy
        Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
        Originally posted by cadaverdog
        I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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        • FORD
          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

          • Jan 2004
          • 58783

          #5
          Where's all the little FAUX brainwashed 17 year olds who like to pretend they know what they're talking about?

          Uncle Chimp wants YOU!
          Eat Us And Smile

          Cenk For America 2024!!

          Justice Democrats


          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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          • BigBadBrian
            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
            • Jan 2004
            • 10625

            #6
            Originally posted by FORD
            Where's all the little FAUX brainwashed 17 year olds who like to pretend they know what they're talking about?

            Uncle Chimp wants YOU!
            Maybe you'd have to ask the 17 year olds on this board that, FORD.
            “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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            • FORD
              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

              • Jan 2004
              • 58783

              #7
              Originally posted by BigBadBrian
              Maybe you'd have to ask the 17 year olds on this board that, FORD.
              That's exactly what I'm doing. Those dumbass little shitheads are quick to post illiterate asinine comments about "liberals" or whatever in their defense of BCE/PNAC's illegal wars and insane policies. So let 'em put their money where their big stupid mouths are.
              Eat Us And Smile

              Cenk For America 2024!!

              Justice Democrats


              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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              • Nickdfresh
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                • Oct 2004
                • 49205

                #8
                Originally posted by FORD
                That's exactly what I'm doing. Those dumbass little shitheads are quick to post illiterate asinine comments about "liberals" or whatever in their defense of BCE/PNAC's illegal wars and insane policies. So let 'em put their money where their big stupid mouths are.
                Lou has the mentality of a 17-year-old!

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                • McCarrens
                  Foot Soldier
                  • May 2004
                  • 705

                  #9
                  Ford has the mentality of a delusional psychopath.
                  "The security around the hotel was ridiculous. This chick was pounding and screaming at my door until four or five in the morning....finally I said fuck it, and let her out of the room"

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                  • Nickdfresh
                    SUPER MODERATOR

                    • Oct 2004
                    • 49205

                    #10
                    Originally posted by McCarrens
                    Ford has the mentality of a delusional psychopath.
                    Hardly. Exactly how old are you McCarrens?

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                    • FORD
                      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                      • Jan 2004
                      • 58783

                      #11
                      Originally posted by McCarrens
                      Ford has the mentality of a delusional psychopath.
                      Practicing for the upcoming BCE Kristol-nacht, are you?
                      Eat Us And Smile

                      Cenk For America 2024!!

                      Justice Democrats


                      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                      • McCarrens
                        Foot Soldier
                        • May 2004
                        • 705

                        #12
                        While I would certainly not call myself old I will admit I am getting closer everyday. I'm almost 30. And how does my saying that Ford's delusional (which he proves here everyday) make me sound immature?

                        You're the one saying Lou is child-like in his thinking.
                        "The security around the hotel was ridiculous. This chick was pounding and screaming at my door until four or five in the morning....finally I said fuck it, and let her out of the room"

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                        • McCarrens
                          Foot Soldier
                          • May 2004
                          • 705

                          #13
                          Originally posted by FORD
                          Practicing for the upcoming BCE Kristol-nacht, are you?
                          If I was praticing for anything Bush-related, why would it have anything to do with you?

                          No one knows anything about you. Typing hackneyed theories on a message board makes them neither true nor their author important.
                          "The security around the hotel was ridiculous. This chick was pounding and screaming at my door until four or five in the morning....finally I said fuck it, and let her out of the room"

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                          • Nickdfresh
                            SUPER MODERATOR

                            • Oct 2004
                            • 49205

                            #14
                            Originally posted by McCarrens
                            While I would certainly not call myself old I will admit I am getting closer everyday. I'm almost 30. And how does my saying that Ford's delusional (which he proves here everyday) make me sound immature?

                            You're the one saying Lou is child-like in his thinking.
                            No, I was just wondering if you were of military age for the draft. Looks like you'll miss it you lucky bastard! But you're still young enough to enlist. I'm sure they'll take you on a waiver.

                            And I think I have LOOOO pegged! You can review his last 10 posts and then get back to me on how mature he is, in every single one, he is either putting someone down or fucking whining like menstrating school girl after her first period. And frankly any little 24-year-old pussy that claims to be a conservative patriot, and puts "liberal" people down for not sharing his views, better march his ass down to the recruiting station, or stay far away from me.
                            Last edited by Nickdfresh; 03-07-2005, 02:48 PM.

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                            • FORD
                              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                              • Jan 2004
                              • 58783

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                              No, I was just wondering if you were of military age for the draft. Looks like you'll miss it you lucky bastard! But you're still young enough to enlist. I'm sure they'll take you on a waiver.
                              I wouldn't count him out just yet. The BCE has been "back door drafting" Vets in their 60's and 70's! If they finally do an open draft, they'll probably raise the limit to 35. About that time McCarrens will suddenly convert to a Canadian peace activist
                              Eat Us And Smile

                              Cenk For America 2024!!

                              Justice Democrats


                              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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