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blueturk
03-29-2005, 08:21 AM
Financial supporters of Terri Schiavo will be bombarded by anti-abortion and conservative groups, in a deal approved by her parents.


http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/29/politics/29donate.html?ex=1112763600&en=4bc366d67ca12e01&ei=5070

List of Schiavo Donors Will Be Sold by Direct-Marketing Firm

By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK and JOHN SCHWARTZ

Published: March 29, 2005

WASHINGTON, March 28 - The parents of Terri Schiavo have authorized a conservative direct-mailing firm to sell a list of their financial supporters, making it likely that thousands of strangers moved by her plight will receive a steady stream of solicitations from anti-abortion and conservative groups.

"These compassionate pro-lifers donated toward Bob Schindler's legal battle to keep Terri's estranged husband from removing the feeding tube from Terri," says a description of the list on the Web site of the firm, Response Unlimited, which is asking $150 a month for 6,000 names and $500 a month for 4,000 e-mail addresses of people who responded last month to an e-mail plea from Ms. Schiavo's father. "These individuals are passionate about the way they value human life, adamantly oppose euthanasia and are pro-life in every sense of the word!"

Privacy experts said the sale of the list was legal and even predictable, if ghoulish.

"I think it's amusing," said Robert Gellman, a privacy and information policy consultant. "I think it's absolutely classic America. Everything is for sale in America, every type of personal information."

Executives of Response Unlimited declined to comment. Gary McCullough, director of the Christian Communication Network and a spokesman for Ms. Schiavo's parents, confirmed that Mr. Schindler had agreed to let Response Unlimited rent out the list as part of a deal for the firm to send an e-mail solicitation raising money on the family's behalf.

The Schindlers have waged a lengthy legal battle against their son-in-law Michael Schiavo to prevent the removal of the feeding tube from their daughter, who doctors say is in a persistent vegetative state.

Mr. McCullough said he was present when Mr. Schindler agreed to the arrangement in a conversation with Phil Sheldon, the co-founder of a conservative online marketing organization, RightMarch.com, who acted as a broker for Response Unlimited.

"So the Schindlers do know the details," Mr. McCullough said on Monday. How much attention they paid to the matter is hard to assess, he added. "The Schindlers right now know that their daughter is starving to death, and if I ask about anything else, they say, 'I don't want to hear about it.' "

Direct mail and mass e-mailings are ubiquitous fund-raising tools of interest groups on the left as well as the right, and others in the direct-mail business defended the sale of lists like the roster of donors to the Schindlers as a useful way for potential donors to learn of causes that might appeal to them.

Pamela Hennessy, an unpaid spokeswoman for the Schindlers, said she was initially appalled when she learned of the list's existence.

"It is possibly the most distasteful thing I have ever seen," Ms. Hennessy said. "Everybody is making a buck off of her."

Ms. Hennessy, who operates the Schindlers' Web site, www.terrisfight.org, said the family had not released any of the names or e-mail addresses gathered there. "Obviously these people are enterprising, and they are taking advantage of this very desperate father," she said.

On Sunday, as the Schindlers gave up on their legal battle and their daughter passed her 10th day without food, others continued to rally supporters and solicit money in an effort to restore the feeding tube.

"This time, we have a real chance to break through the 'roadblocks' that the enemies of life have been putting up in front of us," said a mass e-mailing from RightMarch.com, asking supporters to urge Gov. Jeb Bush to intervene somehow.

The message added: "We're asking you to give a donation to help with our activism efforts to save Terri's life. Battles cost money; resources cost money; media costs money; we could go on, but you get the picture."

Mr. Sheldon - whose father, the Rev. Lou Sheldon, founder of the Traditional Values Coalition, has also sent appeals urging support for Ms. Schiavo - apparently played a dual role as a partner in RightMarch.com, which is working with the anti-abortion activist Randall Terry, and as a broker for Response Unlimited. Mr. Sheldon did not respond to phone calls yesterday.

"I think it sounds a little unusual right now because of the situation where she is in the process of dying," said Richard Viguerie, another major conservative direct-mail operator. "If you came across this information six months or a year from now, I don't think you would give it too much thought."

Jesterstar
03-29-2005, 09:00 AM
So many people call her husband a whore for money. At least he only exsploited one person. These parents are really twisted also. Kind of makes you wonder if anyone attached to the Scheivo case has any integridy.

Nickdfresh
03-29-2005, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by Jesterstar
So many people call her husband a whore for money. At least he only exsploited one person. These parents are really twisted also. Kind of makes you wonder if anyone attached to the Scheivo case has any integridy.

If there is any integrity, ner husband had most of it. The Schindlers are nothing but money whores.

Jesterstar
03-29-2005, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
If there is any integrity, ner husband had most of it. The Schindlers are nothing but money whores.

I'd love to see a breakdown of their connections as far as politics. You don't get this kind of attention just because. This type of case goes on everyday. But what makes Terry Sheivo so special??? My Guess is the Father and or Mother come from a highly connected chain.

Nickdfresh
03-29-2005, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by Jesterstar
I'd love to see a breakdown of their connections as far as politics. You don't get this kind of attention just because. This type of case goes on everyday. But what makes Terry Sheivo so special??? My Guess is the Father and or Mother come from a highly connected chain.

They were adopted as a cause celeb of the Pro-Life movement/cult. There have been nothing but lies told about her husband in this. I posted a USA TODAY article in the Schiavo thread. THe Schindlers and Mike had a falling out right after Michael told them they would not be receiving any on the lawsuit settlement!

Jesterstar
03-29-2005, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
They were adopted as a cause celeb of the Pro-Life movement/cult. There have been nothing but lies told about her husband in this. I posted a USA TODAY article in the Schiavo thread. THe Schindlers and Mike had a falling out right after Michael told them they would not be receiving any on the lawsuit settlement!

Yea but who do they know realated to this Pro Life Cult as you put it???

These Pro lifers have been around along time. Why now do they bring their debate to the national arena.

What is funny a friend of mine whom is a christian and disagree's with this circus said Michel Savage read a interesting peice of legistlation without naming it's source. The Jist of the thing was about Mentally ill people. Stating that they could uthenize them legally if they met the criteria. The Creiteria broadened as time passed. The person who wrote that Adolf Hitler................

Nazi Germany had their own debate about this topic also.

BigBadBrian
03-29-2005, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
If there is any integrity, ner husband had most of it. The Schindlers are nothing but money whores.

Really?

Jesterstar
03-29-2005, 01:52 PM
I just posted a interveiw with the father. Alex Jones conducted it.

Cathedral
03-29-2005, 01:59 PM
What started as a human interest story became a pretzel. this whole thing has more twists and turns than a Rold Gold.

And the media has yet to even graze the true underlying facts associated with it all.

It's sad, but there was an advantage for everyone. This has sparked debate in the homes of our nation that can prevent this from happening to them.

bueno bob
03-29-2005, 02:03 PM
I think the only reason this thing is getting ANY media attention is because it's being made into a trial case to see what they'll do about these sorts of situations in the future...it's all politics.

FORD
03-29-2005, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by Jesterstar
I'd love to see a breakdown of their connections as far as politics. You don't get this kind of attention just because. This type of case goes on everyday. But what makes Terry Sheivo so special??? My Guess is the Father and or Mother come from a highly connected chain.

I listed Bobby Schindler Jr's political contributions as well as his pictures posing with Tom DeLay and other congressional Republicans somewhere in the big Schiavo thread.

The parents don't have any contributions listed, but that doesn't mean they haven't been involved in partisan politics in the past.

FORD
03-29-2005, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by Cathedral
What started as a human interest story became a pretzel

And hopefully that's exactly the effect it will have on the BCE. They wanted this circus. Let em "choke" on it ;)

FORD
03-29-2005, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Really?

Bobby Jr definitely is. The parents are probably just delusional.

academic punk
03-29-2005, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by FORD
And hopefully that's exactly the effect it will have on the BCE. They wanted this circus. Let em "choke" on it ;)


KEEP THE PRETZELS AWAY FROM W!!!!

bueno bob
03-29-2005, 02:30 PM
Well, it's all smokescreen to keep your mind off of more important matters going on all around ya. That's my take on it.