Children 'Starving' in New Iraq

[DLR'sCock]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4395525.stm




Children 'Starving' in New Iraq
BBC

Thursday 31 March 2005

Increasing numbers of children in Iraq do not have enough food to eat and more than a quarter are chronically undernourished, a UN report says.

Malnutrition rates in children under five have almost doubled since the US-led intervention - to nearly 8% by the end of last year, it says.

The report was prepared for the annual meeting of the UN Human Rights Commission in Geneva.

It also expressed concern over North Korea and Sudan's Darfur province.

UN specialist on hunger Jean Ziegler, who prepared the report, blames the worsening situation in Iraq on the war led by coalition forces.

He was addressing a meeting of the 53-nation commission, the top UN rights watchdog, which is halfway through its annual six-week session.

When Saddam Hussein was overthrown, about 4% of Iraqi children under five were going hungry; now that figure has almost doubled to 8%, his report says.

Governments must recognise their extra-territorial obligations towards the right to food and should not do anything that might undermine access to it of people living outside their borders, it says.

That point is aimed clearly at the US, but Washington, which has sent a large delegation to the Human Rights Commission, declined to respond to the charges, says the BBC's Imogen Foulkes in Geneva.

Increasing Hunger

Mr Ziegler also says he is very concerned about the lack of food in North Korea, where there are reports that UN food aid is not being distributed fairly.

In Darfur, the continuing conflict has prevented people from planting vital crops, he says.

Overall, Mr Ziegler says, he is shocked by the fact that hunger is actually increasing worldwide.

Some 17,000 children die every day from hunger-related diseases, the report claims, which it says is a scandal in a world which is richer than ever before.

"The silent daily massacre by hunger is a form of murder," Mr Ziegler said. "It must be battled and eliminated."

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[academic punk]

FEEDING TUBES FOR ALL!!!

[DLR'sCock]

Maybe the "CUTLURE OF LIFE" crowd should be more interested in this....


ahem...



Worldwide 17,000 children die every day from hunger-related diseases

[Seshmeister]

That'll teach them for their parents not having weapons of mass destruction.

Another victory for the Christians...

[Big Train]

What's "news" here? 3/4 of the world is "starving" and that is also caused by war. War is bad shit. However, wars happen.

Nothing new in this report, just bad spin, my guess to add it to the heap on Mr. Blair. It's not about what's said, but when it is said..

[Seshmeister]

I guess the news is that the rest of the 3/4s aren't starving because of wars our governments started.

[Big Train]

But wars other governments started..correct.

[Seshmeister]

Yup.

That combined with unfair trade.

[Seshmeister]

I guess the point is we've lost the high ground because of Iraq.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by DLR'sCock


Worldwide 17,000 children die every day from hunger-related diseases

But they don't vote, OR contribute to Republican causes / candidates.





so no biggie

[Big Train]

nor do they vote democratic, so yup...no big deal...

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
I guess the point is we've lost the high ground because of Iraq.
Always remember it's not "your" war.

Beware using the pronoun "we" and cutting your own throat.


:spank:

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
But they don't vote, OR contribute to Republican causes / candidates.





so no biggie
Y'know, da cum from leftover rubbers is starting t2o smell up this message board.

CLEAN UP.

Kill more children.

Deny food and water like they do in Florida.

It's later than you th... it's too late.


:spank:

[Cathedral]

It's time for the US to start caring, and they can start by offering Tax Breaks for grocery stores that 'GIVE TO THE HUNGRY'.

The last time i moved i went on a box hunt to pack my stuff in and while roaming the back lot of the local Kroger, I saw a guy hosing down the dumpster full of produce and other food items.

I asked him why he was doing it and he told me it was to speed up the rotting process in the summer heat so the homeless wouldn't scavenge the food.

This really pissed me off that so much gets wasted and destroyed on purpose while some of our own citizens go hungry.
So i asked him why they didn't just load it up and send it to the free store?
He said it was because they can't write it off if they donate it.

WTF?
Now i know Kroger does do cheritable things for the community, but it makes no sense that something that can be used to ease the burden on some people simply isn't done, and why our pathetic government doesn't create more incentives for them to stop wasting so much food.

Sorry, didn't mean to rant, but this really bothers me that we as a society care so little for those who are down on their luck.
All homeless people aren't lazy bums, and some of them have families waiting back at the box for Mommy and Daddy to bring back something to eat.

I thank the good Lord that i have been so blessed, but since a certain company came to town I have virtually lost every client i managed to get for my business.
Notice how i have been here more lately?

I'm not worried though, I'll be fine, but so many aren't and need a hand, so why can we not reach out to them more by making use of more of what gets wasted?

[DLR'sCock]

Originally posted by Big Train
What's "news" here? 3/4 of the world is "starving" and that is also caused by war. War is bad shit. However, wars happen.

Nothing new in this report, just bad spin, my guess to add it to the heap on Mr. Blair. It's not about what's said, but when it is said..



dick...

no wonder you're a record exec cockroach...

[DLR'sCock]

Originally posted by Cathedral
It's time for the US to start caring, and they can start by offering Tax Breaks for grocery stores that 'GIVE TO THE HUNGRY'.

The last time i moved i went on a box hunt to pack my stuff in and while roaming the back lot of the local Kroger, I saw a guy hosing down the dumpster full of produce and other food items.

I asked him why he was doing it and he told me it was to speed up the rotting process in the summer heat so the homeless wouldn't scavenge the food.

This really pissed me off that so much gets wasted and destroyed on purpose while some of our own citizens go hungry.
So i asked him why they didn't just load it up and send it to the free store?
He said it was because they can't write it off if they donate it.

WTF?
Now i know Kroger does do cheritable things for the community, but it makes no sense that something that can be used to ease the burden on some people simply isn't done, and why our pathetic government doesn't create more incentives for them to stop wasting so much food.

Sorry, didn't mean to rant, but this really bothers me that we as a society care so little for those who are down on their luck.
All homeless people aren't lazy bums, and some of them have families waiting back at the box for Mommy and Daddy to bring back something to eat.

I thank the good Lord that i have been so blessed, but since a certain company came to town I have virtually lost every client i managed to get for my business.
Notice how i have been here more lately?

I'm not worried though, I'll be fine, but so many aren't and need a hand, so why can we not reach out to them more by making use of more of what gets wasted?

You're a good man Cat...

[Cathedral]

No, i'm a man who may be living in a box soon, lmmfao.
It's not funny, but it makes me chuckle like a mad man.

I have been to the bottom before, it ain't fun, and unless you have talent or experience in something, you're screwed.

And the thing is, it can happen to anyone, anywher, at anytime.
There is nothing secure in this country anymore, nothing.

[FORD]

And even if you have talent and experience, chances are they'll hire someone in India who will do it for $2.00/hr. :(

[Cathedral]

Ain't we just living in the greatest country on earf, hunny? lmmfao.

I'll always have a job as long as there are car lots, I'm pretty sure that's what i'll be doing by the end of next week anyway.

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by FORD
And even if you have talent and experience, chances are they'll hire someone in India who will do it for $2.00/hr. :(
This might be your last chance t2o eat in America.

It's later than you th... it's too late.


:spank:

[4moreyears]

And even if you have talent and experience, chances are they'll hire someone in India who will do it for $2.00/hr.

People should get used to this. Not saying it is right, but it is the way of the world. We do live in a time when companies have figured out how to do business globally. That is a major factor.

JH

[FORD]

Originally posted by 4moreyears
People should get used to this. Not saying it is right, but it is the way of the world. We do live in a time when companies have figured out how to do business globally. That is a major factor.

JH

While the executives of those same companies pay themselves 7 figure salaries for sitting on their fat asses. Corporations are too goddamn big, thanks to the GOP congress.

[kentuckyklira]

Wasn´t everything supposed to get better once Saddam was gone??

[Big Train]

Originally posted by DLR'sCock
dick...

no wonder you're a record exec cockroach...

Retard,

The point I'm trying to make is NOTHING in the report is news, it isn't like it is something we all didn't know.

Thanks for the cheapshot though, your debating skills are highly refined....

[FORD]

Originally posted by kentuckyklira
Wasn´t everything supposed to get better once Saddam was gone??

Yeah that was the theory. Proving yet again that Howard Dean was right.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by FORD
Yeah that was the theory. Proving yet again that Howard Dean was right.

You're both a victim of the liberal media. :gulp:

[DLR'sCock]

Originally posted by Cathedral
No, i'm a man who may be living in a box soon, lmmfao.
It's not funny, but it makes me chuckle like a mad man.

I have been to the bottom before, it ain't fun, and unless you have talent or experience in something, you're screwed.

And the thing is, it can happen to anyone, anywher, at anytime.
There is nothing secure in this country anymore, nothing.



That is certainly very true sir.

[academic punk]

Originally posted by Cathedral
It's time for the US to start caring, and they can start by offering Tax Breaks for grocery stores that 'GIVE TO THE HUNGRY'.

The last time i moved i went on a box hunt to pack my stuff in and while roaming the back lot of the local Kroger, I saw a guy hosing down the dumpster full of produce and other food items.

I asked him why he was doing it and he told me it was to speed up the rotting process in the summer heat so the homeless wouldn't scavenge the food.

This really pissed me off that so much gets wasted and destroyed on purpose while some of our own citizens go hungry.
So i asked him why they didn't just load it up and send it to the free store?
He said it was because they can't write it off if they donate it.

WTF?
Now i know Kroger does do cheritable things for the community, but it makes no sense that something that can be used to ease the burden on some people simply isn't done, and why our pathetic government doesn't create more incentives for them to stop wasting so much food.

Sorry, didn't mean to rant, but this really bothers me that we as a society care so little for those who are down on their luck.
All homeless people aren't lazy bums, and some of them have families waiting back at the box for Mommy and Daddy to bring back something to eat.

I thank the good Lord that i have been so blessed, but since a certain company came to town I have virtually lost every client i managed to get for my business.
Notice how i have been here more lately?

I'm not worried though, I'll be fine, but so many aren't and need a hand, so why can we not reach out to them more by making use of more of what gets wasted?


Cath -

why do you keep apologizing for your rants? Stop. Every time you "rant", I get a broader view of the world and learn something. Keep 'em coming.

Please.

[DLR'sCock]

Originally posted by Big Train
Retard,

The point I'm trying to make is NOTHING in the report is news, it isn't like it is something we all didn't know.

Thanks for the cheapshot though, your debating skills are highly refined....

We all here already knew that malnutrition rates for chidren under the age of 5 had doubled in Iraqi post the US-led invasion of Iraq? Did you even read the story? I didn't know that, and I bet others didn't either, so it actually is news, since it is a new UN report. If you did know that, you certaily don't seem very concerned by your blase response, oh how surprising. So another congratualations to all those who were all ago for invading and murdering the citizens of Iraq.

[academic punk]

BT -

On this one, you're wrong. People die every day, so why should we report on any new people dying? Pope's have died with startling regularity over the course of the past 1900 years, so what's so newsworthy if another one goes? There'll just be another.

Murders, pedophilia, marriages, etc are all ever day occurences. However, if it doesn't remain in the news, then eventually no one will even be aware of any of these events.

How is this not worthy of mention?

[Cathedral]

I AM JUST SO DAMNED EMOTIONAL

I CAN HARDLY STAND IT

[academic punk]

rant rant rant...that's all you ever do...I am so sick and tired of all your constant ranting.

get meds, dude.

[Cathedral]

Got some, and let me tell ya, the sky never looked so purple...and those magenta clouds? Simply Marvatastical!

[Big Train]

Ok,

Once again what I'm saying is the following: YES, it is a horrible thing what they are going through and YES I feel for them (Fuck Cock, you need EVERYTHING spelled out for you apparently).

What I'm saying is this is generally known stuff, new UN report or not, so I fail to see where there is some new "news" flash here. They have a right to report it and whatnot, all I'm saying is there is nothing shocking about it. That is called being a realist.

War causes suffering. If I seem blase to you, it's because I accept that and feel no need to dramatize or sensationalize things that are bad enough to begin with.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by 4moreyears
People should get used to this. Not saying it is right, but it is the way of the world. We do live in a time when companies have figured out how to do business globally. That is a major factor.

JH

Getting used to becoming unemployed and then working at WALMART? What the fuck is that supposed to mean? I have to get used to talking with people with thickly Indian accented English on the help line? It's bullshit!

I remember having one of probably a dozen of technical problems I had on AOL with their glossy graphic, security risk-nightmare programs. Whenever I would call the help desk, I always heard a very nice, but barely comprehensible Indian on the other line. I respect these people and think that they have a right to make a living too. But When I quit AOL, twice actually, guess what I heard on the other line for customer service? yep! A smooth talking American salesmen bent on keeping you using free givaways (why it took two times to quit). I think that's kind of bullshit!

[4moreyears]

Getting used to becoming unemployed and then working at WALMART? What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

Nick, if that is what you look at as your choices than that is your reality. Every big company that was started was started from the idea of one person. Some people choose to pursue starting their own business and take control of their own destiny. To me this is the safest and most secure way to pursue a living. Working for someone else leaves you dependent on their ability to run a business, protect your financial interest by not outsourcing your job, and allowing you to make the money they feel you are worth. But anyone can complain about any company in the world. But in reality anyone can start a business, and control their own destiny.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by 4moreyears
Nick, if that is what you look at as your choices than that is your reality. Every big company that was started was started from the idea of one person. Some people choose to pursue starting their own business and take control of their own destiny. To me this is the safest and most secure way to pursue a living. Working for someone else leaves you dependent on their ability to run a business, protect your financial interest by not outsourcing your job, and allowing you to make the money they feel you are worth. But anyone can complain about any company in the world. But in reality anyone can start a business, and control their own destiny.

Oh give me a break!:rolleyes: What's the statistic? Something like 90% of businesses fail in their first year? Spare me the super hard right rhetoric that enables American companies to move their headquarters off shore to avoid tax bills!

Do you really think every American can be an owner? Then explain how like 2% of the population controls most of the nation's wealth.

[4moreyears]

Then explain how like 2% of the population controls most of the nation's wealth.

Do not try to turn this in to a blue/red issue. These principles work. If you do not believe me, if you are employed go ask the person who signs your checks.

Actually it is quite simple. The 2% does specific things financially that the rest of the 98% does not do. They are more concerned about profits than wages. They are concerned about providing something of value to the masses so that their products or services will be consumed on a large scale. They are concerned about building systems that help generate income for them. John Paul Getty who was one of the wealthiest men in America during the turn of the century said, I would rather earn 1% off of the efforts of 1000 men than 100% of his own efforts. What he was saying is if I can pay a wage to 1000 people and earn 1% of a return off of what they do, with that leverage he can get more done than if he did it all himself. BTW, real wealthy people could care less who is in office, they know how to make money no matter who is president.

JH