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  • Nickdfresh
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    • Oct 2004
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    Iraqi Insurgents Attack Abu Ghraib Prison.

    Insurgents attack Abu Ghraib prison

    Saturday, April 2, 2005 Posted: 7:24 PM EST (0024 GMT)


    An Iraqi woman grieves over a body, after a car bomb exploded in Khan Bani Saad, Iraq, on Saturday.

    BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- At least 20 U.S. soldiers and 12 detainees were wounded when an estimated 40 to 60 insurgents attacked the infamous Abu Ghraib prison outside Baghdad on Saturday.

    Two of the detainees were seriously wounded, a military spokesman said.

    The soldiers were treated on site, and the two seriously wounded detainees were being treated at a hospital facility at the prison.

    The attack occurred at 7:20 p.m. (10:30 a.m. ET) and involved two car bombs, rocket-propelled grenades and small-arms fire, the spokesman said.

    "Fortunately, no multinational forces were killed in this attack, and they're continuing to protect the welfare of the detainees," said 1st Lt. Adam Rondeau, the U.S. military spokesman, about the people being detained in the prison.

    The spokesman did not know whether they were suicide attacks, or how many insurgents were killed or wounded.

    Abu Ghraib gained notoriety amid revelations U.S. soldiers abused prisoners there.
    Violence elsewhere

    Earlier Saturday, a car bomb exploded near the police station in the Iraqi city of Kan Bani Saad, killing five people, including four police officers, police said.

    Police believe the remotely controlled bomb was in a taxi parked near the police station. It exploded as police were checking it, a police official said.

    Along with the four dead, three people -- including two Iraqi police officers -- were wounded in the explosion, police said.

    Kan Bani Saad is about 12 miles (20 km) south of Baquba.

    In Mosul, insurgents set off a car bomb Saturday, injuring six Iraqis, including a child, and setting fire to a house, the U.S. military said.

    Meanwhile, Education Ministry representative Habib Zamil al-Sodani was shot and killed on his way to work in the Baghdad neighborhood of Sadr City, an Iraqi police official told CNN Saturday.
    Assembly prepares to form government

    The transitional National Assembly is planning to meet Sunday for a third time in the hope that it can form a government.

    The Shiite-led United Iraqi Alliance and the Kurdish alliance dominate the 275-member assembly and have sought out a Sunni Arab for a speaker candidate.

    Sunni politicians have put forward Mishaan Jabouri, a member of the National Assembly. He is with the National Reconciliation and Liberation Party, a small party that won a tiny fraction of votes in the election.

    However, he is said to be facing resistance from some in the United Iraqi Alliance, who say Jabouri has close ties to Saddam Hussein's old intelligence service.

    But Sunnis fear that if Jabouri does not get the post -- especially if it goes to a UIA-backed Sunni Arab -- it will prompt a Sunni walkout in the assembly.

    Jabouri, who was a journalist and businessman and was a refugee during the Saddam era, denies the suggestion of ties to Saddam's intelligence service.

    Keeping Sunnis involved in the political process is regarded as essential. That's because they can use their clout as a bloc to thwart constitutional reform and could become a potent opposition force.

    The assembly is to write a permanent constitution that would be put to voters in a referendum later this year.

    CNN's Enes Dulami, Kevin Flower, Ayman Mohyeldin and Mohammed Tawfeeq contributed to this report.
  • Seshmeister
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Oct 2003
    • 35159

    #2
    Ohh shit...

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    • Nickdfresh
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      • Oct 2004
      • 49127

      #3
      Originally posted by Seshmeister
      Ohh shit...
      Uh oh! :confused: :eek:

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      • kentuckyklira
        Veteran
        • Sep 2004
        • 1770

        #4
        Originally posted by Seshmeister
        Ohh shit...
        No shit. Just some people that want their country back!
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        • Nickdfresh
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          • Oct 2004
          • 49127

          #5
          Originally posted by kentuckyklira
          No shit. Just some people that want their country back!
          That's not what he meant!

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          • FORD
            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

            • Jan 2004
            • 58755

            #6
            Originally posted by DLR's Cock

            Insurgents Attack Iraq's Abu Ghraib Prison
            By Antonio Castaneda
            The Associated Press

            Sunday 03 April 2005

            Baghdad - Insurgents detonated car bombs and fired rocket propelled grenades at the Abu Ghraib prison, injuring 44 U.S. forces after a period of declining attacks that had raised hopes the insurgency might be weakening. Lawmakers cast votes for parliament speaker Sunday in a session aimed at ending a deadlock.

            After intense negotiations, lawmakers cast ballots in a vote that was expected to elect Industry Minister Hajim al-Hassani, a Sunni Arab, as parliament speaker. Lawmakers were also voting for two deputy speakers, with former nuclear scientist Hussain al-Shahristani and Kurdish leader Aref Taifour the leading candidates.

            Officials also hoped to name a new president, likely Kurdish leader Jalal Talabani, and his two vice presidents, later in the session.

            Once in his post, Talabani and his two vice presidents have two weeks to name the new interim prime minister, expected to be Shiite politician Ibrahim al-Jaafari. After that, the legislative body has until mid-August to write a new constitution that will pave the way for new elections and a permanent government.

            Parliament's 275 members have struggled to form a new government after the historic Jan. 30 elections. Their session Tuesday to choose a parliament speaker disintegrated into shouts and accusations.

            All the candidates for speaker were Sunni Arabs, an effort to reach out to the minority group once dominant under Saddam Hussein and believed to be the backbone of the country's insurgency.

            Late Saturday, dozens of insurgents attacked the infamous Abu Ghraib prison, resulting in a clash that lasted about 40 minutes, 1st Lt. Adam Rondeau said. He added that it was unclear if the clash was aimed at helping prisoners escape, although the militants were unable to penetrate the prison's walls and no detainees were set free.

            "This was obviously a very well-organized attack and a very big attack," Rondeau said.

            On Sunday, U.S. military officials raised the casualty toll from 20 to 44 U.S. soldiers and Marines wounded. Officials said 13 prisoners were also injured.

            Lt. Col. Guy Rudisill said one attacker was killed in the clash, but that none was detained. He didn't give further details.

            Some soldiers were evacuated with serious injuries, officials said, but many wounds were minor and treated at the scene.

            Officials refused to say whether the insurgents carrying out the attack were arrested or suffered casualties.

            Abu Ghraib, which is just west of Baghdad, was at the center of a prisoner abuse scandal that broke out in 2004 when pictures showing soldiers piling naked inmates in a pyramid and humiliating them sexually became public. The resulting scandal tarnished the military's image worldwide and sparked investigations of detainee abuses.

            The United States is holding about 10,500 prisoners in Iraq; 3,446 are at Abu Ghraib.

            Also Sunday, two bystanders were injured when a bomb destroyed a store in southeast Baghdad, police Lt. Mazin Saeed said. It was unclear why the store was targeted.




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            The US Forces, Like the Crusaders before Them, Are Prisoners in Their Own Fortresses
            By Robert Fisk
            The Independent UK

            Saturday 02 April 2005

            Sitting in Saddam Hussein's palace they can stare over the parapets but that is as much as most will ever see of Iraq.
            I drove Pat and Alice Carey up the coast of Lebanon this week to look at some castles. Pat is a builder from County Wicklow, brave enough to take a holiday with his wife in Beirut when all others are thinking of running away. But I wanted to know what he thought of 12th-century construction work.

            How did he rate a Crusader keep? The most beautiful of Lebanon's castles is the smallest, a dinky-toy palisade on an outcrop of rock near the village of Batroun. You have to climb a set of well-polished steps - no hand-rails, for this is Lebanon - up the sheer side of Mseilha castle and then clamber over doorsills into the dark, damp interior.

            So we padded around the battlements for half an hour. "Strongly made or they wouldn't be still here," Pat remarked. "But you wouldn't find any company ready to put up the insurance. And in winter, it must have been very, very cold."

            And after some minutes, he looked at me with some intensity. "It's like being in a prison," he said.

            And he was right. The only view of the outside world was through the archers' loopholes in the walls. Inside was darkness. The bright world outside was cut off by the castle defences. I could just see the splashing river to the south of the castle and, on the distant horizon, a mountainside. That was all the defenders - Crusaders or Mamlukes - would have seen. It was the only contact they had with the land they were occupying.

            Up at Tripoli is Lebanon's biggest keep, the massive Castle of St Gilles that still towers ominously over the port city with its delicate minarets and mass of concrete hovels. Two shell holes - remnants of Lebanon's 1975-1990 civil war - have been smashed into the walls, but the interior of the castle is a world of its own; a world, that is, of stables and eating halls and dungeons. It was empty - the tourists have almost all fled Lebanon - and we felt the oppressive isolation of this terrible place.

            Pat knew his Crusader castles. "When you besieged them, the only way to get inside was by pushing timber under the foundations and setting fire to the wood. When they turned to ash, the walls came tumbling down. The defenders didn't throw boiling oil from the ramparts. They threw sand on to the attackers. The sand would get inside their armour and start to burn them until they were in too much pain to fight. But it's the same thing here in Tripoli as in the little castle. You can hardly see the city through the arrow slits. It's another - bigger - prison."

            And so I sat on the cold stone floor and stared through a loophole and, sure enough, I could see only a single minaret and a few square metres of roadway. I was in darkness. Just as the Crusaders who built this fortress must have been in darkness.

            Indeed, Raymond de Saint-Gilles spent years besieging the city, looking down in anger from his great fortress, built on the "Pilgrim's Mountain", at the stout burghers of Tripoli who were constantly re-supplied by boat from Egypt. Raymond himself died in the castle, facing the city he dreamed of capturing but could not live to enter.

            And of course, far to the east, in the ancient land of Mesopotamia, there stand today equally stout if less aesthetic barricades around another great occupying army. The castles of the Americans are made of pre-stressed concrete and steel but they serve the same purpose and doom those who built them to live in prisons.

            From the "Green Zone" in the centre of Baghdad, the US authorities and their Iraqi satellites can see little of the city and country they claim to govern. Sleeping around the gloomy republican palace of Saddam Hussein, they can stare over the parapets or peek through the machine-gun embrasures on the perimeter wall - but that is as much as most will ever see of Iraq.

            The Tigris river is almost as invisible as that stream sloshing past the castle of Mseilha. The British embassy inside the "Green Zone" flies its diplomats into Baghdad airport, airlifts them by helicopter into the fortress - and there they sit until recalled to London.

            Indeed, the Crusaders in Lebanon - men with thunderous names like Tancred and Bohemond and Baldwin - used a system of control remarkably similar to the US Marines and the 82nd Airborne. They positioned their castles at a day's ride - or a day's sailing down the coast in the case of Lebanon - from each other, venturing forth only to travel between their keeps.

            And then out of the east, from Syria and also from the Caliphate of Baghdad and from Persia came the "hashashin", the "Assassins" - the Crusaders brought the word back to Europe - who turned the Shia faith into an extremist doctrine, regarding assassination of their enemies as a religious duty.

            Anyone who doubts the relevance of these "foreign fighters" to present-day Iraq should read the history of ancient Tripoli by that redoubtable Lebanese-Armenian historian Nina Jidejian, which covers the period of the Assassins and was published at the height of the Lebanese civil war.

            "It was believed that the terrorists partook of hashish to induce ecstatic visions of paradise before setting out to perform their sacred duty and to face martyrdom..." she writes. "The arrival of the Crusaders had added to ... latent discontent and created a favourable terrain for their activities." Ouch.

            One of the Assassins' first victims was the Count of Montferrat, leader of the Third Crusade who had besieged Acre in 1191 - "Saint Jean d'Acre" to the Christians - and who met his death at the hands of men sent by the Persian "terrorist" leader, Hassan-i Sabbah. The Assassins treated Saladin's Muslim army with equal scorn - they made two attempts to murder him - and within 100 years had set up their own castles around Tripoli. They established a "mother fortress" from which - and here I quote a 13th-century Arab geographer - "the Assassins chosen are sent out thence to all countries and lands to slay kings and great men".

            And so it is not so hard, in the dank hallways of the Castle of St Gilles to see the folly of America's occupation of Iraq. Cut off from the people they rule, squeezed into their fortresses, under constant attack from "foreign fighters", the Crusaders' dreams were destroyed.

            Sitting behind that loophole in the castle at Tripoli, I could even see new meaning in Osama bin Laden's constant reference to the Americans as "the Crusader armies". The Crusades, too, were founded on a neo-conservative theology. The knights were going to protect the Christians of the Holy Land; they were going to "liberate" Jerusalem - "Mission Accomplished" - and ended up taking the spoils of the Levant, creating petty kingdoms which they claimed to control, living fearfully behind their stone defences. Their Arab opponents of the time did indeed possess a weapon of mass destruction for the Crusaders. It was called Islam.

            "You can see why the Crusaders couldn't last here," Pat said as we walked out of the huge gateway of the Castle of Saint Gilles. "I wonder if they even knew who they were fighting."

            I just resisted asking him if he'd come along on my next trip to Baghdad, so I could hear part two of the builder's wisdom.
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            • Nickdfresh
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              • Oct 2004
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              #7
              Thank God no one was killed in the attack, other than the poor Iraqi bastard.

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              • Betty Bush III
                Groupie
                • Jul 2004
                • 50

                #8
                Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                Thank God no one was killed in the attack, other than the poor Iraqi bastard.
                Why the sarcasm?

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                • Nickdfresh
                  SUPER MODERATOR

                  • Oct 2004
                  • 49127

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Betty Bush III
                  Why the sarcasm?
                  It wasn't sarcasm! Just shut the fuck up and don't make assumptions, 'kay?

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                  • DrMaddVibe
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                    • Jan 2004
                    • 6658

                    #10
                    AHAHAHAHAHAHA!

                    You're a dildo!
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                    • Nickdfresh
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                      • Oct 2004
                      • 49127

                      #11
                      Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
                      AHAHAHAHAHAHA!

                      I have a dildo up my ass! Hence Mrs.ASSVIBE!
                      Last edited by Nickdfresh; 04-24-2005, 01:28 PM.

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                      • Warham
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 14587

                        #12
                        The sage advice of Rodney King is not heeded on this forum.

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                        • DrMaddVibe
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                          • Jan 2004
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                          #13
                          He thinks he's funny when his bullshit is out there for all to smell.

                          Anyone with half a brain knows that we're dealing with an emotional cripple stuck in the 4th grade!
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                          • Nickdfresh
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                            • Oct 2004
                            • 49127

                            #14
                            Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
                            He thinks he's funny when his bullshit is out there for all to smell.

                            Anyone with half a brain knows that I am a white-trash, unhappy emotional cripple stuck in the 4th grade!

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                            • DrMaddVibe
                              ROTH ARMY ELITE
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 6658

                              #15
                              I was wrong.

                              3rd grade.
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