Future energy crisis...things will drastically change

[Roy Munson]

The Long Emergency


I don't buy into everything he has to say but I think a lot of it is possible.

Check it out and comment.


WARNING: this gives "doom and gloom" a whole new meaning.

[DrMaddVibe]

I'm buying a hybrid then!

[FORD]

Imagine Phoenix without cheap air conditioning....

Imagine Hell with better scenery. It would be about the same

[steve]

I might have to go to Borders and read this.

There is much skepticism to be had considering he cites ZERO sources or statistics (in this blurb at least).

The one thing that stands out as a crock is his railroad hypothesis...rail cars ultimately run on our oil economy as well.

[Nitro Express]

It just means Jesus is coming!

[DrMaddVibe]

WWJD






























What Will Jesus Drive?

[FORD]

Jesus would have driven a Suburban. But only because He had 12 guys riding with Him everywhere.

That's OK though, because He would have turned water into gas, and it wouldn't have any effect on the oil supply at all.

[steve]

I can turn a burrito into gas...does that make me Holy?

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
I'm buying a hybrid then!

Everybody will HAVE to drive hybrids by then, if not much sooner!

[FORD]

Biodiesel is a viable alternative right now. They can make the shit from recycled grease, old tires, garbage, just about anything. Or make a clean supply from renewable agricultural sources.

One logical step would be the legalization of the hemp plant. We can save discussions of the medicinal and recreational forms for other threads, but the industrial variety must be legalized NOW. Imagine getting oil for biodiesel, fiber for clothing, and pulp for paper mills all from the same field. Not to mention seeds which have more protein than soybeans.

It's a no brainer. Which is why those with no brains will continue to oppose it.

[Nitro Express]

Biodesiel does make a lot of sense because it can be transferred in the existing oil pipelines and distribution system. It's easier to handle than hydrogen.

You are right, there are a lots of sources for biodiesel. Did you know it can be made from a type of aloe plant that grows fast and uses very little water. They could even produce bio diesel in the southwest United States.

Shit, maybe they can make it from hemp too. Hemp is a great source of useful fiber for textiles, is fun to smoke, and if you can power your car with it. Man, I think that's what Jesus would dig. Or Thomas Chong who looks a lot like Jesus in the old movies. LOL!

[Nickdfresh]

Another thing about the hydrogen(cell fueled cars) is that nobody ever says where it's going to come from.

[Big Train]

Doom and gloom. The truth is, if it ever gets that bad, all the restrictions on tech (hemp for example) would be removed in a hurry , I can promise you that. The $ becomes too great and obvious to resist.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Big Train
Doom and gloom. The truth is, if it ever gets that bad, all the restrictions on tech (hemp for example) would be removed in a hurry , I can promise you that. The $ becomes too great and obvious to resist.

There may be some hyperbole in the article, but I have heard these facts from several other sources. It is a fact that oil is getting harder and harder to find and extract in a manner that is economically feasible.

[FORD]

The hold up in technology has a lot to do with corporations who want to control the whole thing. The oil companies don't want to go bankrupt, but they don't know how they can "own" hydrogen or hemp or even biodiesel, since it can be made from a variety of sources.

If Chimp is claiming to be supportive of hydrogen fuel cell technology, it's only because his friends in the oil industry are working on a way to patent the process for themselves.