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  • DLR'sCock
    Crazy Ass Mofo
    • Jan 2004
    • 2937

    Democrats Voted Out of Baptist Church

    Democrats Voted Out of Baptist Church
    The Associated Press

    Saturday 07 May 2005

    Waynesville, N.C. - Some in Pastor Chan Chandler's flock wish he had a little less zeal for the GOP. Members of the small East Waynesville Baptist Church say Chandler led an effort to kick out congregants who didn't support President Bush. Nine members were voted out at a Monday church meeting in this mountain town, about 120 miles west of Charlotte.

    "He's the kind of pastor who says do it my way or get out," said Selma Morris, the church treasurer who was among those voted out. "He's real negative all the time."

    Chandler didn't return a message left by The Associated Press at his home Friday, and several calls to the church went unanswered. He told WLOS-TV in Asheville that the actions were not politically motivated.

    The station also reported that 40 others in the 100-member congregation resigned in protest after Monday's vote.

    During the presidential election last year, Chandler told the congregation that anyone who planned to vote for Democratic Sen. John Kerry should either leave the church or repent, said former member Lorene Sutton.

    Some church members left after Chandler made his ultimatum in October, Morris said.

    George Bullard, associate executive director-treasurer for Baptist State Convention of North Carolina, told the Asheville Citizen-Times that a pastor has every right to disallow memberships if a church's bylaws allow for the pastor to establish criteria for membership.

    "Membership is a local church issue," he said. "It is not something the state convention would enter into."

    He added that the nine members were not legally terminated because Monday's meeting was supposed to be a deacons meeting, not a business meeting. They have a lawyer looking into the situation, he said.

    The head of the North Carolina Democratic Party sharply criticized the pastor Friday, saying Chandler jeopardized his church's tax-free status by openly supporting a candidate for president.

    "If these reports are true, this minister is not only acting extremely inappropriately by injecting partisan politics into a house of worship, but he is also potentially breaking the law," Chairman Jerry Meek said.

    Doris Wilson, one of Chandler's neighbors and a member of First Baptist Church in Waynesville, said God doesn't play partisan politics.

    "I hate to see the church suffer like that," she said. "God doesn't care whether you're a Republican or a Democrat. It just hurts to see that going on."

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  • Jesus Christ
    Veteran
    • Jan 2004
    • 2428

    #2
    Re: Democrats Voted Out of Baptist Church

    Originally posted by DLR'sCock
    Democrats Voted Out of Baptist Church
    The Associated Press

    Saturday 07 May 2005

    Waynesville, N.C. - Some in Pastor Chan Chandler's flock wish he had a little less zeal for the GOP. Members of the small East Waynesville Baptist Church say Chandler led an effort to kick out congregants who didn't support President Bush. Nine members were voted out at a Monday church meeting in this mountain town, about 120 miles west of Charlotte.

    "He's the kind of pastor who says do it my way or get out," said Selma Morris, the church treasurer who was among those voted out. "He's real negative all the time."


    Verily, I say unto this "pastor" do it MY way, or get thee out of My Father's house, you Pharisee hypocrite

    Chandler didn't return a message left by The Associated Press at his home Friday, and several calls to the church went unanswered.

    He hasn't returned My calls either. I wonder why.....

    He told WLOS-TV in Asheville that the actions were not politically motivated.

    Caiaphas the high priest once said that to Me, right before he sent Me to Pilate.

    The station also reported that 40 others in the 100-member congregation resigned in protest after Monday's vote.

    Verily, these 40 shall be rewarded in Heaven for choosing My teachings over the vanity of this deluded man.

    During the presidential election last year, Chandler told the congregation that anyone who planned to vote for Democratic Sen. John Kerry should either leave the church or repent, said former member Lorene Sutton.

    Some church members left after Chandler made his ultimatum in October, Morris said.


    And these also shall recieve their reward in Heaven. For this I say unto you... If the Son of Bush is thy idea of what I, the Messiah, want from mankind, then exactly what gospel art thou preaching?? :confused:

    George Bullard, associate executive director-treasurer for Baptist State Convention of North Carolina, told the Asheville Citizen-Times that a pastor has every right to disallow memberships if a church's bylaws allow for the pastor to establish criteria for membership.

    Criteria for membership:
    For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    If that is not thy criteria for membership, and thy ONLY criteria for membership, then thy church and it's gospel are worthless

    "Membership is a local church issue," he said. "It is not something the state convention would enter into."

    See My previous comment.

    He added that the nine members were not legally terminated because Monday's meeting was supposed to be a deacons meeting, not a business meeting. They have a lawyer looking into the situation, he said.

    Even a lawyer must one day appear before the Highest Court.

    The head of the North Carolina Democratic Party sharply criticized the pastor Friday, saying Chandler jeopardized his church's tax-free status by openly supporting a candidate for president.

    "If these reports are true, this minister is not only acting extremely inappropriately by injecting partisan politics into a house of worship, but he is also potentially breaking the law," Chairman Jerry Meek said.


    Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's and unto God what is God's.

    Doris Wilson, one of Chandler's neighbors and a member of First Baptist Church in Waynesville, said God doesn't play partisan politics.

    "I hate to see the church suffer like that," she said. "God doesn't care whether you're a Republican or a Democrat. It just hurts to see that going on."
    Verily

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    • vanzilla
      Veteran
      • Jul 2004
      • 1773

      #3
      Gee, what ever happened to "Forgive and Forget"?

      I'm sorry, but this is a classic example of how some (I'm not trying to paint with a broad brush here Warham) SOME Christians are delusional and power hungry.

      This is the type of behavior that makes me loath organized religion.

      It's sad these people consider themselves Christians. I doubt Jesus would exclude anyone from his church because they had different politcial beliefs.

      The separation between church and state is growing even thinner.

      Today's sermon: "Why voting against "W" is a vote for eternal damnation."

      Let us pray indeed.
      Just because the title "moderator" is under my name doesn't mean I have to be nice to cunts like you. - DLR7884 to FPC

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      • blueturk
        Veteran
        • Jul 2004
        • 1883

        #4
        I live in North Carolina, about 75 miles east of Waynesville. I have a rather prominent "If You Can Read This, You're Not The President" bumper sticker on the back of my car, and I've gotten a wide range of reactions. People either love it or ( more frequently) hate it. Many of those who don't like it indignantly tell me that Dubya is a good Christian man (or words to that effect), and generally don't want to hear anybody suggest otherwise. My wife takes the sticker off when she drives the car because she says she got tired of people shooting her the bird or giving her dirty looks. That shit doesn't bother me. Actually, it's kind of fun.

        "God loves you, and I love you. And you can count on both of us as a powerful message that people who wonder about their future can hear." —George W. Bush, Los Angeles, Calif., March 3, 2004

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        • Nickdfresh
          SUPER MODERATOR

          • Oct 2004
          • 49205

          #5
          Tax exempt MY ASS!

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          • blueturk
            Veteran
            • Jul 2004
            • 1883

            #6
            Originally posted by Nickdfresh
            Tax exempt MY ASS!
            Indeed! Here's what the IRS says:

            "Organizations described in section 501(c)(3) of the Code that are exempt from federal income tax are prohibited from participating or intervening in any political campaign on behalf of, or in opposition to, any candidate for public office. Charities, educational institutions and religious organizations, including churches, are among those that are tax-exempt under this code section.

            These organizations cannot endorse any candidates, make donations to their campaigns, engage in fund raising, distribute statements, or become involved in any other activities that may be beneficial or detrimental to any candidate. Even activities that encourage people to vote for or against a particular candidate on the basis of nonpartisan criteria violate the political campaign prohibition of section 501(c)(3)".

            This place might as well start calling itself The League Of The Christian Right Who Support George W. Bush.

            Church my ass!!

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            • blueturk
              Veteran
              • Jul 2004
              • 1883

              #7
              It's Just a "Big Misunderstanding" ...Like WMD's

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              The NC preacher that kicked nine members of his church out for anti-Bush sentiments now says that the whole thing was a "big misunderstanding". I guess that like the Bushite that he is, the thought of not being tax-exempt scared him straight. He'll never try to pull this shit again!

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              • Cathedral
                ROTH ARMY ELITE
                • Jan 2004
                • 6621

                #8
                Everyone who attends that church should be finding a new one, pronto.
                There really is no other option than that, the man is lost.

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                • DLR'sCock
                  Crazy Ass Mofo
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 2937

                  #9
                  There are thousands of churches like this in the USA....

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                  • vanzilla
                    Veteran
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 1773

                    #10
                    Originally posted by DLR'sCock
                    There are thousands of churches like this in the USA....
                    True. That's why I stopped going 20 years ago.
                    Just because the title "moderator" is under my name doesn't mean I have to be nice to cunts like you. - DLR7884 to FPC

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                    • FORD
                      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                      • Jan 2004
                      • 58786

                      #11
                      Originally posted by vanzilla
                      True. That's why I stopped going 20 years ago.
                      That's about the time I stopped going. And my church worshipped Reagan rather than Jesus Christ, but they stopped short of actually requiring GOP membership.
                      Eat Us And Smile

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                      • DrMaddVibe
                        ROTH ARMY ELITE
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 6682

                        #12
                        Those pesky dems trying to get at the collection plate again?

                        Damn them to hell!
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                        • BigBadBrian
                          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 10625

                          #13
                          Originally posted by DLR'sCock
                          There are thousands of churches like this in the USA....

                          EXACTLY!!!



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                          • rustoffa
                            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 8959

                            #14
                            Religious faith and practice have historically formed an important part of the fabric of southern Appalachian life.

                            *I ripped that off from some site along with this ironical picture.*

                            Full-on Baptist.

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                            • FORD
                              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                              • Jan 2004
                              • 58786

                              #15
                              Ok, those snake handling weirdos are an entirely other subject altogether, but seriously, the comparison of Kerry speaking in a church to this situation is ridiculous. Nobody excluded Republicans from that sermon, or forced them out of that church.

                              As for Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, they are ordained ministers of course they are going to preach in churches. Pat Robertson was once a presidential candidate. Funny how there's never any distorted cartoons of him in these threads.
                              Eat Us And Smile

                              Cenk For America 2024!!

                              Justice Democrats


                              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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