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DLR'sCock
05-12-2005, 07:36 PM
Indignation Grows in US over British Prewar Documents
By John Daniszewski
The Los Angeles Times

Thursday 12 May 2005

Critics of Bush call them proof that he and Blair never saw diplomacy as an option with Hussein.
London - Reports in the British press this month based on documents indicating that President Bush and Prime Minister Tony Blair had conditionally agreed by July 2002 to invade Iraq appear to have blown over quickly in Britain.

But in the United States, where the reports at first received scant attention, there has been growing indignation among critics of the Bush White House, who say the documents help prove that the leaders made a secret decision to oust Iraqi President Saddam Hussein nearly a year before launching their attack, shaped intelligence to that aim and never seriously intended to avert the war through diplomacy.

The documents, obtained by Michael Smith, a defense specialist writing for the Sunday Times of London, include a memo of the minutes of a meeting July 23, 2002, between Blair and his intelligence and military chiefs; a briefing paper for that meeting and a Foreign Office legal opinion prepared before an April 2002 summit between Blair and Bush in Texas.

The picture that emerges from the documents is of a British government convinced of the US desire to go to war and Blair's agreement to it, subject to several specific conditions.

Since Smith's report was published May 1, Blair's Downing Street office has not disputed the documents' authenticity. Asked about them Wednesday, a Blair spokesman said the report added nothing significant to the much-investigated record of the lead-up to the war.

"At the end of the day, nobody pushed the diplomatic route harder than the British government.... So the circumstances of this July discussion very quickly became out of date," said the spokesman, who asked not to be identified.

The leaked minutes sum up the July 23 meeting, at which Blair, top security advisors and his attorney general discussed Britain's role in Washington's plan to oust Hussein. The minutes, written by Matthew Rycroft, a foreign policy aide, indicate general thoughts among the participants about how to create a political and legal basis for war. The case for military action at the time was "thin," Foreign Minister Jack Straw was characterized as saying, and Hussein's government posed little threat.

Labeled "secret and strictly personal - UK eyes only," the minutes begin with the head of the British intelligence service, MI6, who is identified as "C," saying he had returned from Washington, where there had been a "perceptible shift in attitude. Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and [weapons of mass destruction]. But the intelligence and the facts were being fixed around the policy."

Straw agreed that Bush seemed determined to act militarily, although the timing was not certain.

"But the case was thin," the minutes say. "Saddam was not threatening his neighbors, and his WMD capacity was less than that of Libya, North Korea or Iran."

Straw then proposed to "work up a plan for an ultimatum to Saddam" to permit United Nations weapons inspectors back into Iraq. "This would also help with the legal justification for the use of force," he said, according to the minutes.

Blair said, according to the memo, "that it would make a big difference politically and legally if Saddam refused to allow in the UN inspectors."

"If the political context were right, people would support regime change," Blair said. "The two key issues were whether the military plan worked and whether we had the political strategy to give the military plan the space to work."

In addition to the minutes, the Sunday Times report referred to a Cabinet briefing paper that was given to participants before the July 23 meeting. It stated that Blair had already promised Bush cooperation earlier, at the April summit in Texas.

"The UK would support military action to bring about regime change," the Sunday Times quoted the briefing as saying.

Excerpts from the paper, which Smith provided to the Los Angeles Times, said Blair had listed conditions for war, including that "efforts had been made to construct a coalition/shape public opinion, the Israel-Palestine crisis was quiescent," and options to "eliminate Iraq's WMD through the UN weapons inspectors" had been exhausted.

The briefing paper said the British government should get the US to put its military plans in a "political framework."

"This is particularly important for the UK because it is necessary to create the conditions in which we could legally support military action," it says.

In a letter to Bush last week, 89 House Democrats expressed shock over the documents. They asked if the papers were authentic and, if so, whether they proved that the White House had agreed to invade Iraq months before seeking Congress' OK.

"If the disclosure is accurate, it raises troubling new questions regarding the legal justifications for the war as well as the integrity of our own administration," the letter says.

"While the president of the United States was telling the citizens and the Congress that they had no intention to start a war with Iraq, they were working very close with Tony Blair and the British leadership at making this a foregone conclusion," the letter's chief author, Rep. John Conyers Jr. of Michigan, said Wednesday.

If the documents are real, he said, it is "a huge problem" in terms of an abuse of power. He said the White House had not yet responded to the letter.

Both Blair and Bush have denied that a decision on war was made in early 2002. The White House and Downing Street maintain that they were preparing for military operations as an option, but that the option to not attack also remained open until the war began March 20, 2003.

In January 2002, Bush described Iraq as a member of an "axis of evil," but the sustained White House push for Iraqi compliance with UN resolutions did not come until September of that year. That month, Bush addressed the UN General Assembly to outline a case against Hussein's government, and he sought a bipartisan congressional resolution authorizing the possible use of force.

In November 2002, the UN Security Council approved a resolution demanding that Iraq readmit weapons inspectors.

An effort to pass a second resolution expressly authorizing the use of force against Iraq did not succeed.




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Bush Asked to Explain UK War Memo
CNN News

Thursday 12 May 2005

Washington - Eighty-nine Democratic members of the US Congress last week sent President George W. Bush a letter asking for explanation of a secret British memo that said "intelligence and facts were being fixed" to support the Iraq war in mid-2002.

The timing of the memo was well before the president brought the issue to Congress for approval.

The Times of London newspaper published the memo - actually minutes of a high-level meeting on Iraq held July 23, 2002 - on May 1.

British officials did not dispute the document's authenticity, and Michael Boyce, then Britain's Chief of Defense Staff, told the paper that Britain had not then made a decision to follow the United States to war, but it would have been "irresponsible" not to prepare for the possibility.

The White House has not yet responded to queries about the congressional letter, which was released on May 6.

The letter, initiated by Rep. John Conyers, ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee, said the memo "raises troubling new questions regarding the legal justifications for the war as well as the integrity of your own administration..."

"While various individuals have asserted this to be the case before, including Paul O'Neill, former US Treasury Secretary, and Richard Clarke, a former National Security Council official, they have been previously dismissed by your administration," the letter said.

But, the letter said, when the document was leaked Prime Minister Tony Blair's spokesman called it "nothing new."

In addition to Blair, Foreign Secretary Jack Straw, Defense Secretary Geoff Hoon, Attorney General Peter Goldsmith, MI6 chief Richard Dearlove and others attended the meeting.

A British official identified as "C" said that he had returned from a meeting in Washington and that "military action was now seen as inevitable" by US officials.

"Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy.

"The NSC had no patience with the UN route, and no enthusiasm for publishing material on the Iraqi regime's record. There was little discussion in Washington of the aftermath after military action."

The memo further discussed the military options under consideration by the United States, along with Britain's possible role.

It quoted Hoon as saying the United States had not finalized a timeline, but that it would likely begin "30 days before the US congressional elections," culminating with the actual attack in January 2003.

"It seemed clear that Bush had made up his mind to take military action, even if the timing was not yet decided," the memo said.

"But the case was thin. Saddam was not threatening his neighbors, and his WMD capability was less than that of Libya, North Korea or Iran."

The British officials determined to push for an ultimatum for Saddam to allow UN weapons inspectors back into Iraq to "help with the legal justification for the use of force ... despite US resistance."

Britain's attorney general, Peter Goldsmith, advised the group that "the desire for regime change was not a legal base for military action" and two of three possible legal bases - self-defense and humanitarian intervention - could not be used.

The third was a UN Security Council resolution, which Goldsmith said "would be difficult."

Blair thought that "it would make a big difference politically and legally if Saddam refused to allow in the UN inspectors."

"If the political context were right, people would support regime change," the memo said.

Later, the memo said, Blair would work to convince Bush that they should pursue the ultimatum with Saddam even though "many in the US did not think it worth going down the ultimatum route."

DLR'sCock
05-12-2005, 07:38 PM
Can you say, "Impeachment"?

It's about time these fucking Democrats grow some balls, and do exactly what the Right Wing Attack, Smear, and War machine does!!!!

LoungeMachine
05-12-2005, 09:28 PM
Blair backs possible UN action on Iran

By Alan Cowell The New York Times

FRIDAY, MAY 13, 2005


LONDON As the European Union warned Iran against resuming its nuclear program, Prime Minister Tony Blair said on Thursday that Britain would support American moves to invoke UN Security Council countermeasures "if Iran breaches its obligations and undertakings." The shift in tone seemed designed to increase pressure on Iran not to revive nuclear enrichment activities suspended since last November.


Blair was speaking at a news conference a day after the foreign ministers of Britain, France and Germany - the European countries negotiating with Tehran on behalf of the 25-country Union - sent a letter to Iran's chief nuclear negotiator, Hassan Rowhani, warning that any resumption of nuclear activity "would bring the negotiating process to an end," according to a copy of the letter shown to The New York Times.


If the negotiations fail, the dispute will be referred to the International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna and then to the Security Council, a British Foreign Ministry official said, speaking in return for customary anonymity.

"The Iranians are fully aware of the implications of any decision to resume the nuclear program," the official said.


Iran was offered high-level negotiations with European foreign ministers within two weeks to seek an exit from the impasse, according to the letter, which was also signed by Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief.


The letter said: "We welcome Iran's continued voluntary suspension of all enrichment-related and reprocessing activities, and emphasize that sustaining the suspension, while negotiations are under way, is essential for the continuation of the overall process" of negotiation agreed in earlier discussions last year.


In recent days, Iranian officials have suggested that the country is on the brink of reactivating one of the plants where uranium enrichment was suspended last November.


The United States says Iran is developing a nuclear weapons program - a suspicion shared by the EU. But Iran maintains that its program is designed to develop nuclear power generating stations.


Rowhani recently told Iran's state television, "Iran will definitely resume a part of its enrichment activities in the near future - but we are still discussing its conditions and time of restarting the activities," Reuters reported.

But in remarks on Thursday after meeting with the Russian deputy foreign minister, Sergei Kislyak, Rowhani did not allude to a date for the resumption of enrichment activities.


At the conference in London - his first since returning to power with a reduced majority for a third successive term - Blair was asked whether he would support the U.S.-led drive to seek UN Security Council sanctions on Iran. Up until now, the Europeans have favored incentives like potential trade deals to prevent Iran from developing a program that they say is their sovereign right.


"We certainly will support referral to the United Nations Security Council if Iran breaches its obligations and undertakings," Blair said.


But he qualified his remarks by saying, "Quite how that will come about we have got to work out with our colleagues and allies, but those international rules are there for a reason and they've got to be adhered to."

In response to questions about the possibility of American military action again Iran, Blair said, "We have got to make sure this diplomatic process works, and we'll fight very hard to do that."

Britain was America's biggest ally in the invasion of Iraq, but Blair's support of President George W. Bush and his handling of the run-up to the war cost him in the election last week.

The copy of the letter said European officials were "concerned by the statements made by a number of senior Iranian officials suggesting that some activities covered by the voluntary suspension might soon be restarted."

"Iran should be in no doubt that any such change to the suspension would be a clear breach" of earlier agreements, the letter said. "It would bring the negotiating process to an end. The consequences could only be negative for Iran.


"We do not believe Iran needs to take such a step. Though we understand and share your desire for progress and the earliest possible resolution, these hopes need to be placed in the context of the complexity of the issues in question. Given the starting positions of the two sides, they will inevitably take time to complete.


"The dialogue has already brought benefits. This is progress that we should build on."


Jack Straw, the British foreign secretary, said Iran would lose benefits secured in previous negotiations if it resumed nuclear activities.


"Those unquestionably will be lost because they were part of the negotiations taking part in the context in which Iran had agreed to maintain its suspension of uranium enrichment and related activity," he said in a radio interview.


"The problem is that what is incontrovertible is that there is a 20-year history of them failing to disclose aspects of their activities," Straw said.

In Paris, Cécile Pozzo di Borgo, a Foreign Ministry spokesman, urged Iran to refrain from resuming its nuclear activities and said France supported continued discussions.


In Tehran, the supreme religious leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, warned Western countries on Thursday against "bullying" Iran.

But in much more conciliatory remarks, President Mohammad Khatami said Iran expected its talks with Britain, France and Germany to become more serious.


"We expect to get out of this indecisive situation in the talks with our European friends," he said. "These talks must not become an excuse to delay Iran's activities and eventually deprive us from mastering peaceful nuclear technology."

Nickdfresh
05-13-2005, 11:08 AM
Blair and what army?

LoungeMachine
05-13-2005, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Blair and what army?

The Coalition of The Shilling

:rolleyes:

FORD
05-13-2005, 11:31 AM
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"Don't fergit Poland!"