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  • Hardrock69
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Feb 2005
    • 21838

    5 Years for Passing a Joint: Stop this Bill Now

    Republican Congressman James Sensenbrenner has launched his next assault on freedom. The full House Judiciary Committee is set to vote as early as next week on H.R. 1528, which creates a new group of mandatory miniumum penalties for non-violent drug offenses, including a five year penalty for passing a joint to someone who's been in drug treatment.

    That's right: Passing a joint to someone who used to be in drug treatment will land you in federal prison for a minimum of five years.

    The "Defending America's Most Vulnerable: Safe Access to Drug Treatment and Child Protection Act of 2005" (H.R. 1528) was introduced by House Judiciary Committee Chairman James Sensenbrenner (R-WI) on April 6, and it has already passed out of the House Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security.

    We warned you about this bill last September. It's now coming home to roost. Please visit here to e-mail your U.S. representative and two U.S. senators today. Stop this bill in its tracks.

    Marijuana Policy Project reports:

    In addition to the shocking joint-passing provision described above,the bill would also create a 10-year mandatory minimum sentence for a first-time conviction of distributing a small amount of marijuana to a person under 18 years of age ... and a 10-year sentence for a second offense of distributing marijuana to a person under 21. By comparison, the average time served by convicted rapists in this country is about seven years.

    MPP does not condone the distribution of marijuana to minors, nor do we advocate the use of marijuana by people recovering from substance
    abuse problems. But we do believe that judges should have discretion to determine whether or not offenders in these circumstances deserve to be imprisoned for sentences as long as five or 10 years. If these mandatory minimum sentences are enacted, judges'hands will be tied.

    This bill has traction because it also contains a section that serves as the House Republican leadership's response to a recent U.S. Supreme Court ruling that made the Federal Sentencing Guidelines advisory, rather than mandatory.* The Republican leadership is highly motivated to pass this bill -- and with it, the harsh new penalties related to marijuana.

    The bill will now be debated and voted on by the full House Judiciary
    Committee and -- if the committee passes the bill -- the full House
    will then vote on it.

    Families Against Mandatory Minimums (FAMM) also has an action alert on this bill. Here are the gory details, courtesy of FAMM:

    * Makes the federal sentencing guidelines a system of mandatory minimum sentences through a "Booker-fix" provision.
    * Creates new mandatory minimums that further erode judicial discretion.
    * Eliminates the safety valve for low-level drug offenders.
    * Makes virtually every drug crime committed in urban areas subject to "drug free zone" penalties that carries a five-year mandatory minimum sentence.
    * Punishes defendants for the "relevant conduct" of co-conspirators that occurred BEFORE the defendant joined the conspiracy.

    As written, H.R. 1528 would:

    * Effectively make the federal sentencing guidelines a system of mandatory minimum sentences through a "Booker-fix" provision. This provision forbids judges from departing below the guideline sentence in all but a few cases.

    * Make the sale of any quantity of any controlled substance (including anything greater than five grams of marijuana) by a person older than 21 to a person younger than 18 subject to a ten-year federal mandatory minimum sentence.

    * Create a new three-year mandatory minimum for parents who witness or learn about drug trafficking activities, targeting or even near their children, if they do not report it to law enforcement authorities within 24 hours and do not provide full assistance investigating, apprehending, and prosecuting the offender.

    * Create a new 10-year mandatory minimum sentence for any parent committing a drug trafficking crime in or near the presence of their minor child.

    * Mandate life in prison for persons 21 years or older convicted a second time of distributing drugs to a person under 18 or convicted a first time after a felony drug conviction has become final.

    * Increase to five years the federal mandatory minimum sentence for the sale of a controlled substance within 1,000 feet of a school, college, public library, drug treatment facility (or any place where drug treatment, including classes, are held), or private or public daycare facilities - in short, almost anywhere in cities across the U.S.

    * Eliminate the federal "safety valve," granting it only when the government certifies that the defendant pled guilty to the most serious readily provable offense (the one that carries the longest sentence), and has "done everything possible to assist substantially in the investigation and prosecution of another person," and would prohibit the federal "safety-valve" in cases where drugs were distributed or possessed near a person under 18, where the defendant delayed his or her efforts to provide substantial assistance to the government, or provided false, misleading or incomplete information.

    This is absolutely sickening. As we said last week,

    Sensenbrenner is a one-man disaster for justice. He's been the driving force behind the Real ID Act and bills to strip judges of their discretion in sentencing and subpoena judges' records. In 2004, he wanted to add mandatory minimum penalties to non-violent drug offenses (one example: a five year mandatory minimum sentence for passing a joint to someone who had been in a treatment center.)

    Don't let him get away with it.

  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 58760

    #2
    As I implied in another thread, the REAL purpose of this bill will be revealed later when these so called "drug offenders" are given the "choice" of prison or the "voluntary" military.

    Senselessbrenner is a fascist's fascist. Hitler would be very proud of him.
    Eat Us And Smile

    Cenk For America 2024!!

    Justice Democrats


    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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    • Nickdfresh
      SUPER MODERATOR

      • Oct 2004
      • 49137

      #3
      More ridiculous bullshit! Say, I have an idea. How about a minimum five-year sentence for someone that uses a firearm in the commission of a crime? Oh wait, the NRA is a major campaign contributer...my bad.

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      • Nickdfresh
        SUPER MODERATOR

        • Oct 2004
        • 49137

        #4
        Originally posted by FORD
        As I implied in another thread, the REAL purpose of this bill will be revealed later when these so called "drug offenders" are given the "choice" of prison or the "voluntary" military.

        Senselessbrenner is a fascist's fascist. Hitler would be very proud of him.
        Interesting...And I also noticed in the "TOP 10 CONSERVATIVE IDIOTS" thread that using drugs won't get you thrown out of the military now. A major departure from when I was in.

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        • kentuckyklira
          Veteran
          • Sep 2004
          • 1770

          #5
          A friend of mine got fined 500€ for getting caught with 2 gramms of cocaine on him and and god knows how much up his nose!

          Am I glad I live here and not in "The Land of the Free"!
          http://images.zeit.de/gesellschaft/z...ie-540x304.jpg

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          • FORD
            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

            • Jan 2004
            • 58760

            #6
            Originally posted by kentuckyklira
            A friend of mine got fined 500€ for getting caught with 2 gramms of cocaine on him and and god knows how much up his nose!

            Am I glad I live here and not in "The Land of the Free"!
            Yeah, here the Republicans would select your friend as the next pResident.
            Eat Us And Smile

            Cenk For America 2024!!

            Justice Democrats


            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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            • Hardrock69
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Feb 2005
              • 21838

              #7
              Well, I knew a guy in the 70s who was in the U.S. Army's drug rehab program and was failing his UA tests all the time (he would TELL THE COUNSELOR what they were going to find that week in his urine sample) and was still told by his superiors that they were not going to let him out of the Army.

              He later hatched a plan to get out and was successful, despite the best efforts of his commanding officer.

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              • FORD
                ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                • Jan 2004
                • 58760

                #8
                Originally posted by Hardrock69


                He later hatched a plan to get out and was successful, despite the best efforts of his commanding officer.
                Did he turn gay? Or at least appear to be so?
                Eat Us And Smile

                Cenk For America 2024!!

                Justice Democrats


                "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                • Nickdfresh
                  SUPER MODERATOR

                  • Oct 2004
                  • 49137

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Hardrock69
                  Well, I knew a guy in the 70s who was in the U.S. Army's drug rehab program and was failing his UA tests all the time (he would TELL THE COUNSELOR what they were going to find that week in his urine sample) and was still told by his superiors that they were not going to let him out of the Army.

                  He later hatched a plan to get out and was successful, despite the best efforts of his commanding officer.
                  That was the "old Army" I heard about while in during the late 80's. They could afford to be a little more selective then. But I heard a lot of stories about the 1970's era U.S. Army and drugs/illiterate criminals.
                  Last edited by Nickdfresh; 06-06-2005, 11:53 AM.

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                  • BigBadBrian
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 10620

                    #10
                    Originally posted by kentuckyklira

                    Am I glad I live here and not in "The Land of the Free"!
                    I'm glad you live there also.
                    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                    • kentuckyklira
                      Veteran
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 1770

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                      I'm glad you live there also.
                      Wow, we can actually agree on something!
                      http://images.zeit.de/gesellschaft/z...ie-540x304.jpg

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                      • 4moreyears
                        Commando
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 1245

                        #12
                        Originally posted by FORD
                        Did he turn gay? Or at least appear to be so?
                        Fags should not be in the army. there are no curtains for them to put up in a war zone.

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                        • Nickdfresh
                          SUPER MODERATOR

                          • Oct 2004
                          • 49137

                          #13
                          Originally posted by 4moreyears
                          Fags should not be in the army. there are no curtains for them to put up in a war zone.

                          Why would you put up curtains in a war zone?

                          BTW, did you know that a gay guy brought half of the U.S. Army's traditions of Drill & Ceremony to us from Prussia. Baron Von Steuben was a fruit, yet he was critical in helping to establish a disciplined Continental Army.

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                          • FORD
                            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                            • Jan 2004
                            • 58760

                            #14
                            Originally posted by 4moreyears
                            Fags should not be in the army. there are no curtains for them to put up in a war zone.
                            Don't be surprised if the BCE suddenly changes their policy on gays in the military.

                            Not because they give a shit about gay rights, but because a lot of desperate soldiers might decide to "turn queer" if it's their only way to get out of Iraq alive.

                            And they can always hang the curtains inside the mess tent.
                            Eat Us And Smile

                            Cenk For America 2024!!

                            Justice Democrats


                            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                            • Guitar Shark
                              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 7576

                              #15
                              ROTH ARMY MILITIA


                              Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
                              Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

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