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  • 4moreyears
    Commando
    • Oct 2004
    • 1245

    New Election Process

    The Associated Press
    Updated: 12:15 a.m. ET June 7, 2005

    The nation’s election administrators say it’s time to restructure elections to reflect the way Americans live, scrapping neighborhood precincts and Election Day for large, customer-oriented “vote centers” where people could cast ballots over a period of weeks.


    In a new, sweeping report, state and local officials focus much of their attention on voters and poll workers rather than voting machines — the subject of so much debate ever since the 2000 presidential stalemate in Florida.

    “We are looking forward, we are looking at ways to make elections better,” said Dawn Williams, who oversees voting in Marshall County, Iowa. She co-chaired a task force of officials and former officials from 15 states that was set up by the Houston-based Election Center.

    So-called “universal vote centers,” introduced two years ago on a limited basis in Colorado, could end some of the biggest flaws in the way Americans vote if widely implemented, administrators said.

    Such centers eliminate confusion over where to vote, since everyone in a county can vote at any center; reduce lines by allowing for more equipment and staff at fewer locations; and prevent mistakes by better marshaling well-trained election officials along with day workers.

    “It addresses what happened in Florida in 2000 better than the (federal) Help America Vote Act” — the law Congress passed to fix elections three years ago, said Larimer County (Colorado) Clerk Scott Doyle, who came up with the idea. “It’s the way America lives. Why shouldn’t America vote that way?”

    ‘Save millions of dollars’
    Doyle sought and won a change in state law that allowed him to replace 143 precincts with 20 vote centers. Larger facilities — hotel ballrooms and state fairgrounds — allow easier access and parking for voters, and more efficient concentration of resources for administrators.

    “There’s an opportunity here to better meet our voters’ needs and save millions of dollars,” Doyle said. With vote centers, the county can save several hundred thousand dollars by buying fewer handicapped-accessible voting machines, since the new federal law requires one at each polling location, he said.

    The report, to be officially released Tuesday, also backs a growing trend toward voting over days and weeks, rather than just Election Day.

    At least 30 states have already broadened their balloting rules, expanding absentee voting to “no excuse” voting — so anyone who wants to vote absentee is allowed. In some places, residents can also vote early, in person, as much as a month ahead of Election Day.

    “We’ve got to look at how we make this better for voters at all points. Don’t try to fix the symptoms but say, ‘What is causing the problem and how do we fix them?”’ said Doug Lewis, executive director of the Election Center, which trains election officials.

    “Here are some concepts. They’re not revolutionary concepts, they’re evolutionary,” Lewis said.

    The report also urges state legislators to consider an “independently verifiable” record of each voter’s ballot from ATM-style touchscreen voting machines that could be electronic, video or some other form — pointedly downplaying a widespread push for paper receipts from touchscreens.

    Elections administrators have taken a fair share of blame for the nation’s electoral troubles in recent years.

    Machines’ faults
    Many critics say local and state officials have been complacent or worse about threats to the electoral system, including worries that people seeking to manipulate elections could hack into computerized machines and rig the results.

    The faults in the machines are real and can’t be ignored, said Avi Rubin, a Johns Hopkins University computer science professor. Election officials should heed the computer science community’s warnings, he said.

    The Election Center has come in for criticism after reports that the nonprofit, nonpartisan group accepts contributions from voting machine manufacturers. Two members of the task force are former local election administrators who’ve formed their own election-related businesses.

    The task force also suggested that states:

    * Prohibit companies that register new voters from getting paid by the number of registrants and punish those that misuse the process.
    * Assist felons by providing them with a faster way to regain voting rights, where allowed, and better election information.
    * Share voter registration information between states to avoid duplication and safeguard against fraud.

    The report is one of several continuing efforts to improve elections as disputes continue over 2004 results.

    Most prominent among those was the 129-vote victory of Washington Gov. Christine Gregoire, who won office on the third count of the votes. A state judge upheld her victory Monday.
  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 58783

    #2
    The solution is simple

    1) Election Day is a national holiday.

    2) ALL votes will be on paper ballots

    3) Polling Places will be setup adequately to accomodate every registered voter in the precinct. Nobody should have to stand in line for hours to vote in this country, and it's obvious that the situations where this has been the case, have been set up to deliberately discourage voting.

    4) Nobody gets more than one vote. In the last election, rich Republicans bragged about how they would vote from two different states, claiming residence in both.

    5) NO NEWS COVERAGE of national elections will be allowed until the polls are closed in Hawaii. Period. No projections, no predictions, no Bush cousins on FAUX spinning it for the family.

    This might be someone inconvenient to East Coast viewers, but you guys can worry about the state races until everyone else has had their say.

    Can anybody give me one reason why these 5 things cannot be the rules for 2006 & 2008?
    Eat Us And Smile

    Cenk For America 2024!!

    Justice Democrats


    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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    • Redballjets88
      Full Member Status

      • Mar 2005
      • 4469

      #3
      and w/e no state is won by 1 vote
      R.I.P Van Halen 1978-1984

      hopefully God will ressurect you

      "i wont be messing with you in future.the fearsome redballjets88 for fear of you owning me some more" Axl S


      " I liked Sammy Hagar " FORD

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      • FORD
        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

        • Jan 2004
        • 58783

        #4
        Originally posted by Redballjets88
        and w/e no state is won by 1 vote
        Florida was in 2000.

        It was a 5-4 vote of the Supreme Court.
        Eat Us And Smile

        Cenk For America 2024!!

        Justice Democrats


        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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        • hollywood5150
          Head Fluffer
          • Sep 2004
          • 477

          #5
          the fucking people in florida dont know how to vote.........how many fucking recounts did they have????

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          • Redballjets88
            Full Member Status

            • Mar 2005
            • 4469

            #6
            you know i mean regular vote....why do dems have to be such technical assholes
            R.I.P Van Halen 1978-1984

            hopefully God will ressurect you

            "i wont be messing with you in future.the fearsome redballjets88 for fear of you owning me some more" Axl S


            " I liked Sammy Hagar " FORD

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            • FORD
              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

              • Jan 2004
              • 58783

              #7
              Originally posted by hollywood5150
              LOL you tell em kidd
              Take the cheerleading shit to PM. I'm trying to start a serious discussion about saving Democracy here.
              Eat Us And Smile

              Cenk For America 2024!!

              Justice Democrats


              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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              • FORD
                ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                • Jan 2004
                • 58783

                #8
                Originally posted by hollywood5150
                the fucking people in florida dont know how to vote.........how many fucking recounts did they have????
                None, since they never got a complete one.
                Eat Us And Smile

                Cenk For America 2024!!

                Justice Democrats


                "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                • Redballjets88
                  Full Member Status

                  • Mar 2005
                  • 4469

                  #9
                  saving democracy? look its in no trouble in 2 1/2 years what you call hell and what i call the US having a backbone will be over and u can be happy
                  R.I.P Van Halen 1978-1984

                  hopefully God will ressurect you

                  "i wont be messing with you in future.the fearsome redballjets88 for fear of you owning me some more" Axl S


                  " I liked Sammy Hagar " FORD

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                  • FORD
                    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                    • Jan 2004
                    • 58783

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Redballjets88
                    you know i mean regular vote....why do dems have to be such technical assholes
                    Shit happens when your country becomes a fascist dictatorship on a "technicality"
                    Eat Us And Smile

                    Cenk For America 2024!!

                    Justice Democrats


                    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                    • 4moreyears
                      Commando
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 1245

                      #11
                      Originally posted by FORD
                      Shit happens when your country becomes a fascist dictatorship on a "technicality"
                      Even if 2000 was won on a "technicality", 2004 our country was a clear victory for President Bush. He swept, winning more states, more popular vote, and the electoral college. I cant wait for your bitchey, whinny, response.

                      JH

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                      • Nickdfresh
                        SUPER MODERATOR

                        • Oct 2004
                        • 49205

                        #12
                        Originally posted by hollywood5150
                        the fucking people in florida dont know how to vote.........how many fucking recounts did they have????
                        The fucking state officials in Florida didn't know how to set up a vote either!

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                        • FORD
                          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                          • Jan 2004
                          • 58783

                          #13
                          Originally posted by 4moreyears
                          Even if 2000 was won on a "technicality", 2004 our country was a clear victory for President Bush. He swept, winning more states, more popular vote, and the electoral college. I cant wait for your bitchey, whinny, response.

                          JH
                          Eat Us And Smile

                          Cenk For America 2024!!

                          Justice Democrats


                          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                          • TEUFEL HUNDEN
                            Groupie
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 50

                            #14
                            Originally posted by FORD
                            Take the cheerleading shit to PM. I'm trying to start a serious discussion about saving Democracy here.
                            Hey FORD, we have a REPUBLIC not a democracy in this country. I dont pledge, " And to this democracy for which it stands"....

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                            • FORD
                              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                              • Jan 2004
                              • 58783

                              #15
                              Originally posted by TEUFEL HUNDEN
                              Hey FORD, we have a REPUBLIC not a democracy in this country. I dont pledge, " And to this democracy for which it stands"....
                              Well, whatever you used to call it, it ceased to exist on December 12, 2000 when 5 BCE appointees on the Supreme Court stopped the legal and constitutional process of counting votes, in order to install their favored candidate.

                              That is neither Democracy OR Republic.
                              Eat Us And Smile

                              Cenk For America 2024!!

                              Justice Democrats


                              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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