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  • Warham
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Mar 2004
    • 14589

    Dick Durban Supports The Troops

    BY JAMES TARANTO

    Wednesday, June 15, 2005 4:11 p.m. EDT

    Durbin Supports the Troops

    Sen. Dick Durbin, an Illinois Democrat, took the Senate floor yesterday and likened American servicemen to Nazis (link in PDF):

    When you read some of the graphic descriptions of what has occurred here [at Guantanamo Bay]--I almost hesitate to put them in the [Congressional] Record, and yet they have to be added to this debate. Let me read to you what one FBI agent saw. And I quote from his report:

    On a couple of occasions, I entered interview rooms to find a detainee chained hand and foot in a fetal position to the floor, with no chair, food or water. Most times they urinated or defecated on themselves, and had been left there for 18-24 hours or more. On one occasion, the air conditioning had been turned down so far and the temperature was so cold in the room, that the barefooted detainee was shaking with cold. . . . On another occasion, the [air conditioner] had been turned off, making the temperature in the unventilated room well over 100 degrees. The detainee was almost unconscious on the floor, with a pile of hair next to him. He had apparently been literally pulling his hair out throughout the night. On another occasion, not only was the temperature unbearably hot, but extremely loud rap music was being played in the room, and had been since the day before, with the detainee chained hand and foot in the fetal position on the tile floor.

    If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime--Pol Pot or others--that had no concern for human beings. Sadly, that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners.

    We are fighting an enemy that murdered 3,000 innocent people on American soil 3 1/2 years ago and would murder millions more if given the chance--and according to Dick Durbin, our soldiers are the Nazis.

  • Nickdfresh
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    • Oct 2004
    • 49205

    #2
    If it walks like a duck...

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    • knuckleboner
      Crazy Ass Mofo
      • Jan 2004
      • 2927

      #3
      dude, because somebody did a huge wrong to us does not make it morally proper for us to do a small wrong to somebody.


      3,000 innocent people WERE murdered. that does not justify the torture of captured prisoners.


      if torture did happen at an American run camp, then it's wrong. although the end might be noble, protecting more innocent lives, the means DO matter.

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      • Phil theStalker
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        • Jan 2004
        • 3843

        #4
        Re: Dick Durban Supports The Troops

        Originally posted by Warham
        We are fighting an enemy that murdered 3,000 innocent people on American soil 3 1/2 years ago and would murder millions more if given the chance--and according to Dick Durbin, our soldiers are the Nazis.

        If there were 3,000 "murders" of Boston citizens, NYC citizens, and Washington, D.C. citizens where are the "murder" investigations? huh

        Where?

        You believe in the big lie, it's obvious. Hey, just like the GERMAN people, the NAZIS, believed in their Reichstag fire and all of the rest of their big lies.

        That's sad, because you'd be good as a troll.

        It's later than you... it's too late.


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        • Phil theStalker
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          • Jan 2004
          • 3843

          #5
          Originally posted by knuckleboner
          dude, because somebody did a huge wrong to us does not make it morally proper for us to do a small wrong to somebody.


          Do you mean 100,000 dead Iraq civilians is a small wrong?

          The U.S. government, YOUR government Warham, funded and trained al-Qaeda.

          Your government FUNDED AND TRAINED AL-QAEDA.

          Do you get it?


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          • Nickdfresh
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            • Oct 2004
            • 49205

            #6


            Well, you have to admit there is a passing resemblance.

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            • Phil theStalker
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              • Jan 2004
              • 3843

              #7
              Originally posted by Nickdfresh
              [IMG]Well, you have to admit there is a passing resemblance.
              Nick,

              Do you have any ideas as to how to get rid of Rumsfeld and the Bushes and Clintons and the rest?

              I see a revolt coming and they want you to think it's all their boys, al Qaeda.

              But it's OUR boys, CIA.

              Get ready for the big civil war here.

              War is eminent, global and on North America this time.


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              • Warham
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Mar 2004
                • 14589

                #8
                The comments will probably be spread over the world, with folks overseas saying, 'see, their own Senators all calling their troops Nazis!' More terrorists will probably be recruited by the spread of this comment, and more troops will be killed by car bombs. It's irresponsible.

                Does anybody here think that would have happened during Vietnam?

                In an unrelated note, He also said that people who own Hummers should join the military, because they only get five miles to the gallon.

                Not the brightest bulb in the chandalier.

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                • BigBadBrian
                  TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 10625

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Phil theStalker
                  Nick,

                  Do you have any ideas as to how to get rid of Rumsfeld and the Bushes and Clintons and the rest?

                  I see a revolt coming and they want you to think it's all their boys, al Qaeda.

                  But it's OUR boys, CIA.

                  Get ready for the big civil war here.

                  War is eminent, global and on North America this time.


                  Are they letting you picking strawberries at the looney bin this year?
                  “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                  • Nickdfresh
                    SUPER MODERATOR

                    • Oct 2004
                    • 49205

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Phil theStalker
                    Nick,

                    Do you have any ideas as to how to get rid of Rumsfeld and the Bushes and Clintons and the rest?

                    I was thinking more like populist reform, and elections...

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                    • FORD
                      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                      • Jan 2004
                      • 58783

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Warham


                      In an unrelated note, He also said that people who own Hummers should join the military, because they only get five miles to the gallon.

                      I agree. The Hummer was designed as a military vehicle. That gas guzzling piece of crap should have never been licensed for civillian use, and it absolutely should have never been made a toy for the rich by the abuse of a tax loophole designed to help family farmers buy tractors.

                      All these assholes with small penis problems who want to drive them should do so.

                      In Iraq.
                      Eat Us And Smile

                      Cenk For America 2024!!

                      Justice Democrats


                      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                      • BigBadBrian
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                        • Jan 2004
                        • 10625

                        #12
                        “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                        • Phil theStalker
                          Full Member Status

                          • Jan 2004
                          • 3843

                          #13
                          Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                          Are they letting you picking strawberries at the looney bin this year?
                          Nick,

                          A revolt is coming.

                          If there is one more CIA attack on the U.S. like 9/11 there will be a march on Washington D.C. the likes you and the world have NEVER seen before.

                          Do you think that's crazy?

                          Crazy as George Washington crossing the old Delaware at night, Xmas eve, and all of the other "crazy" things these "rebels" did.

                          The "middle" is not a safe place to be. BOTH sides will be gunning for you. BOTH sides want you to pick them or the other side. Nobody likes a spy.

                          Figure out where you stand before the revolt comes.


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                          • BigBadBrian
                            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 10625

                            #14
                            “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                            • Warham
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 14589

                              #15
                              It's absolutely intollerable.

                              Honest Abe was absolutely correct. Durban should be strung up by his nads.

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