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Warham
06-21-2005, 07:17 AM
Report: Saddam Insists He Is Iraqi Leader
By RICHARD PYLE, Associated Press Writer
Mon Jun 20, 8:05 PM


In this photograph released by the Iraqi Special Tribunal ...
NEW YORK - Saddam Hussein loves Doritos, hates Froot Loops, admires President Reagan, thinks Clinton was "OK" and considers both Presidents Bush "no good." He talks a lot, worries about germs and insists he is still president of Iraq.

Those and other details of the deposed Iraqi leader's life in U.S. military custody appear in the July issue of GQ magazine, based on interviews with five Pennsylvania National Guardsmen who went to Iraq in 2003 and were assigned to Saddam's guard detail for nearly 10 months.

The magazine, which reached newsstands Monday, said the GIs could not tell their families what they were doing and signed pledges not to reveal the location or other details of the U.S.-run compound where Saddam was an HVD, or "high value detainee," awaiting trial by Iraqi authorities for mass killings and other crimes.

However, the five soldiers told GQ of their personal interactions with Saddam, saying he spoke with them in rough English, was interested in their lives and even invited them back to Iraq when he returns to power.

"He'd always tell us he was still the president. That's what he thinks, 100 percent," said Spc. Jesse Dawson, 25, of Berwick, Pa.

A Pentagon spokesman had no comment on the article.

The GIs recalled that Saddam had harsh words for the Bushes, each of whom went to war against him.

"The Bush father, son, no good," Cpl. Jonathan "Paco" Reese, 22, of Millville, Pa., quoted Saddam as saying.

Spc. Sean O'Shea, then 19, of Minooka, Pa., said Saddam later mellowed in that view. "Towards the end, he was saying that he doesn't hold any hard feelings and he just wanted to talk to (George W.) Bush, to make friends with him," he told the magazine.

Dawson quoted Saddam as saying: "He knows I have nothing, no mass weapons. He knows he'll never find them."

Their description of the man who once lived in palaces and now occupies a cell with no personal privacy matched recently published photos, apparently smuggled out of prison, showing Saddam in his underwear and a long robe.

The story said that once, when Saddam fell during his twice-a-week shower, "panic ensued. No one wanted him to be hurt while being guarded by Americans." One GI had to help Saddam back to his cell, while another carried his underwear.

Saddam was friendly toward his young guards and sometimes offered fatherly advice. When O'Shea told him he was not married, Saddam "started telling me what to do," recalled the soldier. "He was like, `You gotta find a good woman. Not too smart, not too dumb. Not too old, not too young. One that can cook and clean.'"

Then he smiled, made what O'Shea interpreted as a "spanking" gesture, laughed and went back to doing his laundry in the sink.

The soldiers also said Saddam was a "clean freak" who washed after shaking hands and used diaper wipes to clean meal trays, utensils and table before eating. "He had germophobia or whatever you call it," Dawson said.

The article said Saddam preferred Raisin Bran Crunch for breakfast, telling O'Shea, "No Froot Loops." He ate fish and chicken but refused beef.

For a time his favorite snack was Cheetos, and when that ran out, Saddam would "get grumpy," the story said. One day, guards substituted Doritos corn chips, and Saddam forgot about Cheetos. "He'd eat a family size bag of Doritos in 10 minutes," Dawson said.

The magazine said Saddam told his guards that when the Americans invaded Iraq in March 2003, he "tried to flee in a taxicab as the tanks were rolling in," and U.S. planes struck the palace he was trying to reach instead of the one he was in.

"Then he started laughing," recalled Reese. "He goes, `America, they dumb. They bomb wrong palace.'"

Saddam also said his capture in an underground hideout on Dec. 18, 2003, resulted from betrayal by the only man who knew where he was, and had been paid to keep the secret.

"He was really mad about that," Dawson said. "He compared himself to Jesus, how Judas told on Jesus. He was like, `That's how it was for me.' If his Judas never said anything, nobody ever would have found him, he said."

U.S. officials said at the time that intelligence from several sources led to Saddam's capture.

The magazine said Saddam prayed five times a day and kept a Quran that he claimed to have found in rubble near his hideout. "He proudly showed (it) to the boys because it was burned around the edges and had a bullet hole in it," GQ said.

Va Beach VH Fan
06-21-2005, 07:42 AM
Originally posted by Warham
The article said Saddam preferred Raisin Bran Crunch for breakfast

Hey, even Saddam needs his fiber..... ;)


Originally posted by Warham
One day, guards substituted Doritos corn chips, and Saddam forgot about Cheetos. "He'd eat a family size bag of Doritos in 10 minutes," Dawson said.

So was it Nacho Cheese or Cool Ranch ??

Dammit, why don't they put the GOOD details in these articles !!

thome
06-21-2005, 10:27 AM
please dont try to paint that thing as any way near human

Nickdfresh
06-21-2005, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by thome
please dont try to paint that thing as any way near human

But like HITLER, GOERING, STALIN before him, he IS human....(disturbing isn't it?)
http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2003/08.21/photos/23-nuremburg1-450.jpg

FORD
06-21-2005, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by thome
please dont try to paint that thing as any way near human

Apparently Rummy thought so....

"What's that?? A case of Cool Ranch Doritos along with your anthrax and mustard gas shipment?

Sure Saddam, I think we can do that! "

thome
06-21-2005, 06:08 PM
To both ,I thought that rite after i wrote it, he is human and full
of the same mistakes we all make.he should be forgiven and hugged
its not his fault he was haveing a bad 30 years maybe we can blame it on AADD.either way Im sorry if i did anything to upset him it must be
something i said ?

Warham
06-21-2005, 06:38 PM
We're giving Cheetos and Doritos to our prisoners of war?

Sounds like torture to me.

I wonder if he gets his pillow fluffed and a mint placed on top before bedtime.

FORD
06-21-2005, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by Warham
We're giving Cheetos and Doritos to our prisoners of war?

Sounds like torture to me.



High fructose corn syrup, MSG, and trans fats.... yeah, that could be interpreted as torture.

thome
06-21-2005, 07:05 PM
I like the shark scenario, Doritos,Trans fatty acid is a slow painfull way to go

Va Beach VH Fan
06-21-2005, 07:51 PM
Yeah, as much as I'll love to see the day when this fucker is terminated by his own people, and reading this article, I got to thinking, "I bet our millions of homeless would love those Doritos"....

Seshmeister
06-21-2005, 10:00 PM
He's a very cunning clever man.

His guards will not be. He probably runs rings around them.

Cheers!

:gulp:

Nitro Express
06-22-2005, 01:49 AM
I remember an interview with Teriq Aziz, Saddam's ambassador who also was risking his and his familys ass to be a double agent for the US before the invasion of Iraq. Mr. Aziz was asked if Saddam would commit suicide like Hitler and Aziz said Saddam was an optimist and a fighter and suicide was not his style.

Saddam may be a monster but you don't go from being a street thug to president of the second oil rich country in the world by being a dummy. Also, before Saddam, most of Iraq did not have electricity or paved roads. Saddam made Iraq one of the most modern countries in the middle east. What keeps Saddam going is the little glimmer of hope he has in his mind and as far as he's concered he is president of Iraq.

Saddam also knows the quagmire Bush is in right now. He has found nothing. No weapons of mass destruction. Bush and the US look like fools to the rest of the world right now and Saddam knows the US is going to continue to treat him well because the last thing the US needs is bad publicity. Saddam is waiting it out. Saddam Hussain is a very clever man and not to be underestimated. There is always the slight chance he will escape the death penalty and wiggle his way out of the problem if the US releases him to an Iraqi puppet govt.

ashstralia
06-22-2005, 05:38 AM
i keep imagining 'south park saddam' saying

'hey guy, you cool! now where's my dorito's,
mind if i wash my shorts?'

hehehe

FORD
06-22-2005, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by Nitro Express
Saddam Hussain is a very clever man and not to be underestimated. There is always the slight chance he will escape the death penalty and wiggle his way out of the problem if the US releases him to an Iraqi puppet govt.

No chance of that whatsoever.... The BCE won't allow Saddam to live. He knows too much about them.

LoungeMachine
06-22-2005, 10:06 AM
Originally posted by FORD
No chance of that whatsoever.... The BCE won't allow Saddam to live. He knows too much about them.

The same reason Osama will NEVER be allowed by the US to be "captured":rolleyes: alive..........

You can't have them telling the world what they know about this administration

Guitar Shark
06-22-2005, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by FORD
No chance of that whatsoever.... The BCE won't allow Saddam to live. He knows too much about them.

If that is true then why have we been keeping him in custody? Why haven't we killed him already?

Damn Dave, come back to reality once in a while.

LoungeMachine
06-22-2005, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by Guitar Shark
If that is true then why have we been keeping him in custody? Why haven't we killed him already?

Damn Dave, come back to reality once in a while.

Why do WE have him in custody AT ALL ???

Why not turn him over now the Iraqis????

Warham
06-22-2005, 11:10 AM
Because the Iraqis don't have access to the Family Size bags of Doritos that we currently possess.

LoungeMachine
06-22-2005, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by Warham
Because the Iraqis don't have access to the Family Size bags of Doritos that we currently possess.

IF I was responding to your posts, I would tell you how damn funny that was....

But since I swore not to respond to you, I'll just have to laugh to myself...:cool:

FORD
06-22-2005, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by Guitar Shark
If that is true then why have we been keeping him in custody? Why haven't we killed him already?

Damn Dave, come back to reality once in a while.

They have to create the illusion of a fair trial. For that matter, this could ALL be illusion. I really don't think this guy looks all that much like Saddam Hussein.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/en/doc/2003-12/14/xinsrc_c8c42e76261045cf8f4254ffca4ff95c_SH.jpg
Saddam in "happier" times

In fact, I seem to remember that the real Saddam had whitish-gray hair (he dyed it, just as Reagan did)

But Dorito munching Saddam isn't getting hair coloring treatments, is he?

Who's to say some BCE casting director didn't find one of Saddam's old doubles and modify his look, based on Tom Hanks in "Castaway" while the REAL Hussein was paid very handsomely (say maybe a missing $9 billion) to drop off the face of the earth permanently.

http://mitglied.lycos.de/LotharKrist6/leader/usa/images/bush_castaway.jpg

But don't worry about the actor playing Saddam... the Fab Five will clean him up for trial....
http://homepage.mac.com/ronsbell/Blogs/B380834556/C1177171545/E824310235/Media/saddam.jpg

diamondD
06-22-2005, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by FORD
High fructose corn syrup, MSG, and trans fats.... yeah, that could be interpreted as torture.

So is Guinness a form of torture too, Mr Atkins?


;)

FORD
06-22-2005, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by diamondD
So is Guinness a form of torture too, Mr Atkins?


;)

http://www.blacktriangle.org.uk/blog/archives/images/guinness.jpg :D

Sure, Guinness has carbs, but they aren't as processed as the ones in junk food.

Keeyth
06-22-2005, 06:51 PM
From the way his guards are portraying it, Hussein doesn't seem to have it half bad right now. He oughta be in lock down 23 hours a day with nothing but bread and water like other murderers. Instead, they are starting to paint a sympathetic picture of the 'butcher of Baghdad' that will probably end up winning him positive public opinion...

...and we will never capture Osama because he is still a CIA asset which they created lets not forget... ...he (or his capture) may still be useful as political clout for a future (God forbid) Bush to use in a campaign... ...I mean come on. The guy is on dialysis... ...he can't be that hard to find. I love how the latest report says they have "an excellent idea of where he is, but we have to respect other countries soverenty." What B.S.!
What about us respecting Iraq's soverenty???? Where was that line of thinking back then?