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  • Guitar Shark
    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
    • Jan 2004
    • 7579

    The War President

    A particularly compelling piece, in my opinion.

    NY Times Op-Ed
    June 24, 2005

    The War President
    By PAUL KRUGMAN

    VIENNA

    In this former imperial capital, every square seems to contain a giant statue of a Habsburg on horseback, posing as a conquering hero.

    America's founders knew all too well how war appeals to the vanity of rulers and their thirst for glory. That's why they took care to deny presidents the kingly privilege of making war at their own discretion.

    But after 9/11 President Bush, with obvious relish, declared himself a "war president." And he kept the nation focused on martial matters by morphing the pursuit of Al Qaeda into a war against Saddam Hussein.

    In November 2002, Helen Thomas, the veteran White House correspondent, told an audience, "I have never covered a president who actually wanted to go to war" - but she made it clear that Mr. Bush was the exception. And she was right.

    Leading the nation wrongfully into war strikes at the heart of democracy. It would have been an unprecedented abuse of power even if the war hadn't turned into a military and moral quagmire. And we won't be able to get out of that quagmire until we face up to the reality of how we got in.

    Let me talk briefly about what we now know about the decision to invade Iraq, then focus on why it matters.
    The administration has prevented any official inquiry into whether it hyped the case for war. But there's plenty of circumstantial evidence that it did.

    And then there's the Downing Street Memo - actually the minutes of a prime minister's meeting in July 2002 - in which the chief of British overseas intelligence briefed his colleagues about his recent trip to Washington.

    "Bush wanted to remove Saddam," says the memo, "through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and W.M.D. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy." It doesn't get much clearer than that.

    The U.S. news media largely ignored the memo for five weeks after it was released in The Times of London. Then some asserted that it was "old news" that Mr. Bush wanted war in the summer of 2002, and that W.M.D. were just an excuse. No, it isn't. Media insiders may have suspected as much, but they didn't inform their readers, viewers and listeners. And they have never held Mr. Bush accountable for his repeated declarations that he viewed war as a last resort.

    Still, some of my colleagues insist that we should let bygones be bygones. The question, they say, is what we do now. But they're wrong: it's crucial that those responsible for the war be held to account.

    Let me explain. The United States will soon have to start reducing force levels in Iraq, or risk seeing the volunteer Army collapse. Yet the administration and its supporters have effectively prevented any adult discussion of the need to get out.

    On one side, the people who sold this war, unable to face up to the fact that their fantasies of a splendid little war have led to disaster, are still peddling illusions: the insurgency is in its "last throes," says Dick Cheney. On the other, they still have moderates and even liberals intimidated: anyone who suggests that the United States will have to settle for something that falls far short of victory is accused of being unpatriotic.

    We need to deprive these people of their ability to mislead and intimidate. And the best way to do that is to make it clear that the people who led us to war on false pretenses have no credibility, and no right to lecture the rest of us about patriotism.

    The good news is that the public seems ready to hear that message - readier than the media are to deliver it. Major media organizations still act as if only a small, left-wing fringe believes that we were misled into war, but that "fringe" now comprises much if not most of the population.

    In a Gallup poll taken in early April - that is, before the release of the Downing Street Memo - 50 percent of those polled agreed with the proposition that the administration "deliberately misled the American public" about Iraq's W.M.D. In a new Rasmussen poll, 49 percent said that Mr. Bush was more responsible for the war than Saddam Hussein, versus 44 percent who blamed Saddam.

    Once the media catch up with the public, we'll be able to start talking seriously about how to get out of Iraq.

    E-mail: krugman@nytimes.com
    ROTH ARMY MILITIA


    Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
    Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.
  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 58789

    #2
    Good analysis. But of course, the Busheep will ignore anything from the NYTimes.

    If someone from FAUX or NewsMax said this, they would proclaim it as the sacred word of God. But then it would take an act of God to get anyone from FAUX or Newshax to admit Junior was wrong, let alone deliberately so.
    Eat Us And Smile

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    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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    • Guitar Shark
      ROTH ARMY SUPREME
      • Jan 2004
      • 7579

      #3
      Originally posted by FORD
      Good analysis. But of course, the Busheep will ignore anything from the NYTimes.
      Their loss, I guess.
      ROTH ARMY MILITIA


      Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
      Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

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      • Nickdfresh
        SUPER MODERATOR

        • Oct 2004
        • 49205

        #4
        This is an excellent, well thought out piece. Good post SHARKY!
        Last edited by Nickdfresh; 06-24-2005, 02:47 PM.

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        • ODShowtime
          ROCKSTAR

          • Jun 2004
          • 5812

          #5
          Re: The War President

          Originally posted by Guitar Shark

          We need to deprive these people of their ability to mislead and intimidate. And the best way to do that is to make it clear that the people who led us to war on false pretenses have no credibility, and no right to lecture the rest of us about patriotism.
          Let alone morals.
          gnaw on it

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          • Loki
            Roadie
            • Nov 2004
            • 156

            #6
            thine bungling leaders have led thee to the precipice of destruction. all thine efforts shall yeild a bitter fruit. huzzah.
            "Art is a lie that tells the truth."

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            • ODShowtime
              ROCKSTAR

              • Jun 2004
              • 5812

              #7
              Loki makes more sense and is more credible to me than when gw was giving some bullshit speech on TV the other day. huzzah indeed.
              gnaw on it

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              • Nickdfresh
                SUPER MODERATOR

                • Oct 2004
                • 49205

                #8
                Originally posted by Loki
                thine bungling leaders have led thee to the precipice of destruction. all thine efforts shall yeild a bitter fruit. huzzah.
                You can say that again....

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                • DLR'sCock
                  Crazy Ass Mofo
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 2937

                  #9
                  An excellent piece Shark. Then again, all Mr Krugman is stating is obvious logic and facts.

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                  • BigBadBrian
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 10625

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Guitar Shark
                    Their loss, I guess.
                    Not really.

                    I would have read it if was Thomas Friedman , but Paul Krugman is a well-known Bush-hater and his opinions cannot be considered impartial.

                    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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