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  • DLR'sCock
    Crazy Ass Mofo
    • Jan 2004
    • 2937

    Supreme Court OKs music-downloading lawsuits against software firms




    Article published Monday, June 27, 2005

    * New * Supreme Court OKs music-downloading lawsuits against software firms

    ASSOCIATED PRESS


    WASHINGTON — Hollywood and the music industry can file piracy lawsuits against technology companies that are caught encouraging customers to steal music and movies over the Internet, the Supreme Court ruled today.

    The justices, aiming to curtail what they called a “staggering” volume of piracy online, largely set aside concerns that new lawsuits would inhibit technology companies from developing the next iPod or other high-tech gadgets or services.

    The unanimous ruling is expected to have little immediate impact on consumers, though critics said it could lead companies to include digital locks to discourage illegal behavior.

    The justices left in place legal protections for companies that merely learn customers might be using products for illegal purposes.

    The justices said copying digital files such as movies, music or software programs “threatens copyright holders as never before” because it’s so easy and popular, especially among young people.
    Entertainment companies maintain that online thieves trade 2.6 billion songs, movies and other digital files each month.

    “I am pleased that the Supreme Court has considered this important case and determined that those who intentionally induce or encourage the theft of copyrighted music, movies, software or other protected works may be held liable for their actions,” Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said.

    The ruling represents a significant victory for Hollywood and record labels, which have resorted to suing individually the thousands of computer users caught sharing music and movies online.

    “We will no longer have to compete with thieves in the night whose businesses are built on larceny,” said Andrew Lack, chief executive for Sony BMG Music Entertainment.

    The court said Grokster Ltd. and Streamcast Networks Inc., developers of leading Internet file-sharing software, can be sued because they deliberately encouraged customers to download copyrighted files illegally so they could build a larger audience and sell more advertising.

    Writing for the court, Justice David H. Souter said the companies’ “unlawful objective is unmistakable.”

    The court noted as evidence of bad conduct that Grokster and Streamcast made no effort to block illegal downloads, which the companies maintained wasn’t possible.

    But the court also said a technology company couldn’t be sued if it merely learns its customers are using its products for illegal purposes. That balancing test, the court said, is necessary so that it “does nothing to compromise legitimate commerce or discourage innovation having a lawful promise.”

    The court said it wanted to protect an inventor who must predict how consumers months or years in the future might use new technology.
    “The price of a wrong guess ... could be large,” Justice Stephen G. Breyer wrote.

    The lawyer for the software companies, Richard Taranto, said he will argue in a new trial that they did not encourage computer users to download music and movies illegally. He complained the Supreme Court’s ruling was so vague it was impossible to know which companies might be sued.

    Taranto’s partner in the case, Fred von Lohmann of the San Francisco-based Electronic Frontier Foundation, predicted the decision will “unleash a new era of legal uncertainty on America’s innovators” and that unresolved questions “will probably tie up courts for a long time.”

    Today's decision did not affect the illegality of computer users downloading copyrighted materials over the Internet without permission.

    The ruling also was not expected to affect the thousands of copyright lawsuits filed already against computer users by the trade groups for Hollywood studios and the largest labels.

    Read more in later editions of The Blade and toledoblade.com.
  • DLR'sCock
    Crazy Ass Mofo
    • Jan 2004
    • 2937

    #2
    Grokster Decision Worries Tech Industry

    By MATTHEW FORDAHL
    The Associated Press
    Monday, June 27, 2005; 8:13 PM

    SAN JOSE, Calif. -- The technology world _ from multibillion-dollar computer companies to garage tinkerers _ faces new and potentially costly uncertainties with the Supreme Court's ruling that inventors can be held liable if third parties use their products to infringe on copyrights.

    Though Monday's ruling specifically addressed the activities of file-sharing companies Grokster Ltd. and StreamCast Networks Inc., it could invite lawsuits against others whose products or services are deemed as encouraging infringement.



    In this March 29, 2005 file photo, Rick Carnes, President of the Songwriters Guild of America, demonstrates outside the Supreme Court while arguments were being heard in the MGM vs. Grokster case. (AP Photo Gerald Herbert) (Gerald Herbert - AP)

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    That leaves a broad gray area yet to be defined, critics said.

    "It's fair to say that with the decision the legal clarity has decreased and the risk of litigation has increased," said Michael Petricone, technology policy vice president at the Consumer Electronics Association trade group. "From a competitive standpoint, that is just not a good thing."

    Examples of technology that can be used to swap songs and movies are everywhere, though it's not clear how many of those companies can be said to have "induced" piracy to the extent of Grokster and StreamCast.

    Apple Computer Inc. once advertised the joys of ripping, burning and mixing CDs on a Macintosh computer. In the PC world, Intel Corp. microprocessors, Microsoft Corp.'s Windows operating system and countless other inventions _ such as the DVD burner _ all make copyright infringement easy.

    Might a broadband provider's claim of "faster downloads" be perceived as an inducement to steal copyrighted material? Will innovative startups have to hire legal teams to review every aspect of a business before it even incorporates?

    Still, the decision could have been far worse from the innovator's perspective.

    The court did not alter its landmark 1984 ruling that protected Sony Corp. from liability even though some of its VCRs were used to infringe on copyrights. That "safe harbor" continues to protect innovators whose products have non-infringing purposes, though Monday's decision added a new test: the developer's intent.

    The Supreme Court's written opinion went to lengths to outline actions Grokster and StreamCast took to build their businesses by offering copyright materials rather than public domain materials. Both gave away their software in an effort to boost advertising revenues.

    "Users seeking Top 40 songs ... are certain to be far more numerous than those seeking a free Decameron, and Grokster and StreamCast translated that demand into dollars," the court's opinion reads.

    The decision seems to maintain the balance between innovation and copyright protection, said Pamela Samuelson, a law professor at the University of California. "By preserving a safe harbor for technologies with substantial lawful uses, it adopted a far more moderate rule than (copyright holders) had recommended," she said. "An order for further proceedings on theory that Grokster actively induced copyright infringement did not come as a big surprise."

    In fact, most major technology companies declined comment, either saying they were studying the decision or did not see how it applied to their businesses.

    Jennifer Greeson, an Intel spokeswoman, said the world's largest chip maker was pleased that the court did not alter the Sony ruling. She declined to discuss the case further as the company was still reviewing the decision.

    Among tech companies that welcomed the ruling were those that rely on the so-called peer-to-peer (P2P) networking technology that underlies StreamCast and Grokster's products but have sought to work with the recording industry.

    "It's a fantastic boost for us," said Wayne Rosso, chief executive for the Virginia Beach, Va.-based Mashboxx, which is among a new crop of P2P-based services slated to launch this year to offer music download sales and, in some cases, swapping of tracks that are not under copyright restrictions.

    "I think you'll see the investment community suddenly rush in to support the licensed P2P model," suggested Rosso, who once headed the company behind the Grokster file-swapping software.

    Gregory Kerber, chairman and chief executive of Saratoga Springs, N.Y.-based Wurld Media, was also optimistic about the impact the file-sharing decision will have for its P2P-based music service, Peer Impact.

    "The ruling removes a roadblock that has hampered the widespread development of legitimate online music models," said Kerber.

    Apple and RealNetworks Inc., which operate industry-sanctioned online music stores, also praised the ruling while touting their respective services. "Today the Supreme Court reaffirmed an important basic principle: thou shalt not steal," RealNetworks CEO Rob Glaser said.

    But Cindy Cohn, legal director at the Electronic Frontier Foundation, which represented StreamCast, said the ruling will do more to hamper innovation given the uncertainty it has created.

    "We went to the Supreme Court hoping to get a clarity about a bright line rule that innovators can live with and copyright infringers could live with," she said. "And instead we got sent back a murky, multifactored test that's going to result in more litigation for years to come."

    ___

    AP Business Writer Alex Veiga contributed to this report from Los Angeles.

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    • Nickdfresh
      SUPER MODERATOR

      • Oct 2004
      • 49205

      #3
      Does this mean that bootleg sharing sites are gonna' go out of existence?:confused:

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      • FORD
        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

        • Jan 2004
        • 58789

        #4
        Originally posted by Nickdfresh
        Does this mean that bootleg sharing sites are gonna' go out of existence?:confused:
        That's the ultimate goal. The corporate pigs want to force you to buy that SHIT they call music, even when the alternative isn't costing them a damn dime.
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        • Rikk
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Jan 2004
          • 16518

          #5
          Originally posted by Nickdfresh
          Does this mean that bootleg sharing sites are gonna' go out of existence?:confused:
          I have to admit that the bootleg sharing sites are the only ones I feel have any claim. Those downloading Pink Floyd audience boots, etc., are the same sort that would buy every single legitimate release that hits the market. There is no dent in the industry from said sites. But sites or products encouraging the distribution of copyrighted material have no leg to stand on. It is not the responsibility of the musician to be glad that his hard work is being distributed for free when he wants to get paid as anyone else would.

          But when SHARING THE GROOVE went down, I was furious.

          Though I don't see any connection with technological products and sites such as EzyTorrent.
          Roth Army Militia

          Originally posted by WARF
          Rikk - The new school of the Roth Army... this dude leads the pack... three words... The Sheep Pen... this dude opened alot of doors for people during this new era... he's the best of the new school.

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          • Rikk
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Jan 2004
            • 16518

            #6
            Originally posted by FORD
            That's the ultimate goal. The corporate pigs want to force you to buy that SHIT they call music, even when the alternative isn't costing them a damn dime.
            True. It's also the idea of value-for-money. I have to commend some of the record companies for including some real value in the products they release. I happily purchased the new JUDAS PRIEST album for just over $10 Canadian and it included a half hour DVD with concert, interview and documentary footage.

            Also, once the distributing technology exists, the legal fight is just delay of the fact that they have to come up with new ways of allegedly maximizing their revenue. What they don't admit is that anything will be purchased in a capitalist society with very strong marketing.
            Roth Army Militia

            Originally posted by WARF
            Rikk - The new school of the Roth Army... this dude leads the pack... three words... The Sheep Pen... this dude opened alot of doors for people during this new era... he's the best of the new school.

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            • FORD
              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

              • Jan 2004
              • 58789

              #7
              Originally posted by Rikk


              But when SHARING THE GROOVE went down, I was furious.

              I'm STILL furious about that one. Even though STG was more or less reconstituted under another name (as was EasyTree) many of the contributors lost track, which means the enormous pool of music that was trading on that site has yet to be duplicated. EasyTree's "new" incarnation is just about back to the level it was at before it went under, so that's where I've spent a lot of time lately.
              Eat Us And Smile

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              • Nickdfresh
                SUPER MODERATOR

                • Oct 2004
                • 49205

                #8
                Originally posted by Rikk
                I have to admit that the bootleg sharing sites are the only ones I feel have any claim. Those downloading Pink Floyd audience boots, etc., are the same sort that would buy every single legitimate release that hits the market. There is no dent in the industry from said sites. But sites or products encouraging the distribution of copyrighted material have no leg to stand on. It is not the responsibility of the musician to be glad that his hard work is being distributed for free when he wants to get paid as anyone else would.

                But when SHARING THE GROOVE went down, I was furious.

                Though I don't see any connection with technological products and sites such as EzyTorrent.
                Not only that, but I suspect that live music sharing sites may spark fan interest and hence increase sales!. In fact I was online looking for commercially released live FLOYD last night as a direct result of listening to their older material.

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                • Nickdfresh
                  SUPER MODERATOR

                  • Oct 2004
                  • 49205

                  #9
                  Originally posted by FORD
                  I'm STILL furious about that one. Even though STG was more or less reconstituted under another name (as was EasyTree) many of the contributors lost track, which means the enormous pool of music that was trading on that site has yet to be duplicated. EasyTree's "new" incarnation is just about back to the level it was at before it went under, so that's where I've spent a lot of time lately.
                  Did you see my banned torrent? Man, they're really taking this shit seriously! That is erroring on the side of caution to the point of absurdity.

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                  • FORD
                    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                    • Jan 2004
                    • 58789

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                    Did you see my banned torrent? Man, they're really taking this shit seriously!
                    No, what was it?
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                    • Rikk
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                      • Jan 2004
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                      #11
                      I could name you twenty artists I've bought almost entire catalogues of thanks to downloading or boot searching...

                      JOEL PLASKETT, THE DEAD BOYS, NEW YORK DOLLS, and on and on and on.

                      And remember the old days of taping albums off of the radio? Or singles? Hell, as an eight-year-old, I taped JUMP and then PANAMA off the radio and then bought the cassette when I had enough allowance money two weeks later.
                      Roth Army Militia

                      Originally posted by WARF
                      Rikk - The new school of the Roth Army... this dude leads the pack... three words... The Sheep Pen... this dude opened alot of doors for people during this new era... he's the best of the new school.

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                      • Nickdfresh
                        SUPER MODERATOR

                        • Oct 2004
                        • 49205

                        #12
                        Originally posted by FORD
                        No, what was it?
                        I ripped the audio form the three live videos from the 1981 OAKLAND show to FLAC. It lasted about half-an-hour.

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                        • Rikk
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 16518

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                          I ripped the audio form the three live videos from the 1981 OAKLAND show to FLAC. It lasted about half-an-hour.

                          http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-...3533#comm523533
                          At least it proves that they're on the ball against copies of commercially-released product being distributed. But even then, where in any store can someone purchase the audio OR video of those performances? When's the last time those were aired anywhere except for the occasional run on VH-1?
                          Roth Army Militia

                          Originally posted by WARF
                          Rikk - The new school of the Roth Army... this dude leads the pack... three words... The Sheep Pen... this dude opened alot of doors for people during this new era... he's the best of the new school.

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                          • Nickdfresh
                            SUPER MODERATOR

                            • Oct 2004
                            • 49205

                            #14
                            I haven't seen 'em on VH-1 for years! I'll see if BRETT will let me put them on his site.

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                            • FORD
                              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                              • Jan 2004
                              • 58789

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Rikk
                              I could name you twenty artists I've bought almost entire catalogues of thanks to downloading or boot searching...

                              JOEL PLASKETT, THE DEAD BOYS, NEW YORK DOLLS, and on and on and on.

                              And remember the old days of taping albums off of the radio? Or singles? Hell, as an eight-year-old, I taped JUMP and then PANAMA off the radio and then bought the cassette when I had enough allowance money two weeks later.
                              That's exactly my argument about online file sharing. Since FM radio has become so corporatized and won't play anything outside of the corporate cookie cutter crap of the moment, the online files serve the purpose that FM used to.

                              Our resident RIAA spokesman doesn't agree. I guess he's forgotten that he used to tape those Van Halen & Ac/Dc albums off the air weeks ahead of their release just like the rest of us
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