THE PITTSBURGH Sports CHATTER

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Well, like I've been saying, Duce has been so damn hesitant this preseason, it painfully obvious....

And word is that he came to camp out of shape...

Now if it were me...

And Bettis just retired, and knowing that unless I came in as a slob, the job was mine to lose, I'd make damn sure I was in top condition when camp started...

But he didn't, and so to answer your question, I really wouldn't be that surprised if he was dropped for Dayne...

[POJO_Risin]

irregardeless of Bettis...

knowing Cowher, and knowing that you haven't been a regular for 2 years...

you need to be there...and ready to go...

he wasn't...

NEXT!

[Va Beach VH Fan]

WHAT THE FUCK......

http://kdka.com/topstories/local_story_246173637.html

Sources: 'Big Ben' Misses Practice, Has Surgery

(KDKA) PITTSBURGH Sources tell KDKA that Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger had surgery.

KDKA has learned he had an appendectomy.

Roethlisberger was absent from today’s practice.

Coach Bill Cowher is holding a press conference at 6pm.

[POJO_Risin]

Well...that's just great...

looks like Jacobs isn't going anywhere...lmfao...

[POJO_Risin]

Well...at least we are getting rid of all of this before the season...

althought that should make week 1 look very different...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Not worried...

Charlie'll be fine...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Cowher's press conference...

http://kdka.dayport.com/launcher/19718/?tf=video_player.tpl

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Well, at least there's some good news....

The guy who shut Chad Johnson down 3 times last year....

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2572073

Steelers re-sign Ike Taylor to four-year extension
By John Clayton
ESPN.com

Days after locking up one of their best young offensive players, Willie Parker, the Steelers gave one of their best defensive players, cornerback Ike Taylor, a four-year extension that makes him the highest-paid cornerback in team history.

On Sunday, Taylor agreed to a four-year extension that will keep him with the Steelers through 2010. He will receive $22.5 million and have a chance to make another $1.2 million, which could max out the package at $23.7 million based on his performance.

Included in the deal is $6.4 million in guarantees. There is another $1 million of roster bonus money toward the end of the contract.

Both sides came out of the deal happy. Taylor was rewarded for his development in Pittsburgh's defense after only one year as a starter. The Steelers, meanwhile, were able to lock up a cornerback for five seasons at a price that made them happy, particularly since the price of re-signing or obtaining cornerbacks is rising rapidly.

Taylor's one year as a starter was certainly significant. He started 16 games and helped take the team to the Super Bowl. Taylor is a big, physical cornerback at 6-foot-1, 191 pounds.

More than anything else, Taylor wanted to remain a Steeler. He was scheduled to become a free agent at the end of the 2006 season, but he had no desire to leave. Taylor developed a good relationship with the Rooney family, reputed to be among the best in sports at taking care of their players.

Taylor, 26, has played in 45 games during his first four seasons, starting 17. He was a fourth-round choice of the Steelers in 2003. He's played in two AFC Championship games and has one Super Bowl ring.

To accompany that ring, Taylor now has a deal that will keep him on the Steelers defense through 2010.

[POJO_Risin]

Funny how the guys that get along with the organization never have a problem signing big contracts...

[Switch84]

Big Ben's Appendix burst. He'll miss the season opener. Charlie Batch will step in for him...



Ben Roethlisberger missed no playing or practice time despite nearly dying during a June motorcycle accident. A case of appendicitis will keep him out of the Super Bowl champion Pittsburgh Steelers' season opener.

Roethlisberger will sit out the NFL's showcase Thursday night game against Miami after having an appendectomy Sunday, not long after reporting for practice with stomach pains and nausea.

"The surgery went well," coach Bill Cowher said. "He is obviously going to be out this week and we will go week to week from there."

The operation was the third in less than a year for the 24-year-old Roethlisberger, who is off to one of the best career starts of any quarterback in NFL history. He was in the operating room for seven hours following his scary motorcycle accident on June 12, mostly to repair facial damage, and had arthroscopic knee surgery midway through last season.

Charlie Batch, a former Lions starter who was 2-0 as a fill-in for Roethlisberger last season, will start against the Dolphins.

"It's a situation that can happen to any football team. You can go out there and have a starter go down, whether it's an ankle or something else of that nature," Cowher said. "That's the nature of the business."

Roethlisberger's latest medical setback followed an uneventful training camp that began with questions about whether he was fully recovered from the crash and ended with him playing better in the preseason than he did a year ago.

It was not immediately known if the motorcycle accident might have caused any internal damage that subsequently resulted in the appendicitis. All of Roethlisberger's known injuries from the crash - a broken nose, orbital bones and upper and lower jaw, damaged teeth and a concussion - were to his head.

According to various medical journals, one cause of appendicitis can be a perforation in the appendix. But, unless there is severe bleeding, an otherwise healthy patient such as Roethlisberger often is released within 24 hours of an appendectomy and has a relatively short recovery time.

Steelers wide receiver Hines Ward also had an appendectomy in 2002 and missed the final two exhibition games, but returned to make eight catches in the season opener against New England.

Thursday's game will be the fifth that Roethlisberger has missed since the middle of last season, when he sat out four games - three in a row - with two knee injuries. He also injured his right thumb Nov. 28 against the Colts - he has since said he broke it - but did not miss any playing time because of it.

The Steelers made the playoffs last season even with Roethlisberger sitting out one-quarter of their schedule, and Cowher said they will overcome this latest setback.

"Adversity is not what knocks you down, it is how you handle it and how you respond to it," he said. "This football team with its veterans has been down this road before, facing challenges and adversity."

The Steelers planned to begin the season with only two quarterbacks, Roethlisberger and Batch, plus rookie Omar Jacobs on their practice squad. But Cowher said they would bring in another quarterback immediately.

"We will assess the backup (situation) as the week goes on. This is the situation we are being dealt and we are not asking for any pity nor are we going to make any excuses," Cowher said. "We are going to get ready for Miami accordingly."

Roethlisberger is the youngest quarterback to win a Super Bowl, doing so at age 23 as the Steelers beat Seattle 21-10 on Feb. 5. He has a 27-4 record while leading the Steelers to two AFC championship games and one Super Bowl in two seasons.

Now that Roethlisberger is out, the Steelers may be without their two top skill position players against Miami.

Ward, a four-time Pro Bowl selection and the Super Bowl MVP, didn't have a full training camp practice after Aug. 3 because of a sore hamstring and is listed as questionable. He did not play in the preseason.



Copyright 2006 Associated Press. All rights reserved.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

It didn't burst, but thanks anyway...

[ALinChainz]

I wish you guys had someone better than Charlie Batch.

Seriously.

[Switch84]

Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
It didn't burst, but thanks anyway...


:D Close enough. He's out for at least a game, maybe two.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Originally posted by ALinChainz
I wish you guys had someone better than Charlie Batch.

Seriously.

I'm not worried about Charlie in this game...

Now if Ben's not back before the Monday night game in Jacksonville, that could be a problem, that's gonna be a tough game...

[ALinChainz]

Seriously though, I would rather have Maddox, even for ONE game.

As long as the Steelers can run, it shouldn't make much difference.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

You've got a short memory Al...

Maddox did his best O'Donnell impression in the JAX game last year, losing to them in OT after his latest INT....

JAX has a good run defense, they'll need to counter it with the pass...

[ALinChainz]

Oh I know VA ... and understand ... but the LIONS had Batch as their STARTER ... when Bobby Ross was here ...

I've seen Maddox have big games, maybe not recently but Batch ... well ... :D

[Va Beach VH Fan]

He went 2-0 last year, at Green Bay and at home vs. Cleveland...

He's a lot more mobile than Maddox, who's only been golfing since last year...

But anyway, it's irrelevant now, they've signed St. Pierre to the practice squad, where Omar Jacobs already is...

Just my guess, but I bet they'll bump Jacobs up to the main squad before Thursday.... Jacobs had a damn good preseason for a rookie...

[ALinChainz]

Yeah, he use to be even more mobile ... I think he had a micro-fracture procedure on his knee once ... just never been a fan, and Bobby Ross threw away a season by putting him in there after week 2 for Mitchell, and it pissed Sanders off ... he retired after that.

[ODShowtime]

bring it on motherfuckers!!!!

[Va Beach VH Fan]

I'll just say it again...

Great teams find ways to win....

Now, I will say this.... Real Steeler fans know that there were several things NOT to like about their performance vs. the Fins...

Their tackling was piss poor for a good portion of the game...

The offensive line didn't do too much better in protecting Charlie, he was on the run for a lot of the time...

Pass defense was pretty poor as well, until the 4th quarter at least...

But, like I said, the great teams make adjustments and find ways to win....

[POJO_Risin]

I don't know Va...I think Ike Taylor...for the most part...did a nice job on Chambers until they started zoning more at the end...where they were even better...

and their secondary can fucking hit across the board...wow...

Their line didn't look all that good...I agree...

Overall...a close game that shouldn't have been...but my god...I can't wait to watch Miller become a superstar...and a fucking steal at the end of the draft 2 years ago...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

And may I add, the special teams sucked cock as well....

[POJO_Risin]

In the first half for sure...Welker was up and all over them...

but it improved in the 2nd half...

Welker disappeared...

[Unchainme]

Looks like you guys are going to kick our ass again this year..

Fucking Maurice Carthon..Sucks at offensive play calling..Too fucking cuntservative..

You guys should have a fucking field day..

[POJO_Risin]

We'll worry about Cleveland when we get there...

they looked...aside from Winslow...like shit...

[Unchainme]

Originally posted by POJO_Risin
We'll worry about Cleveland when we get there...

they looked...aside from Winslow...like shit...

Winslow and Frye were the Brightspots..

Winslow has admitted he isn't even up to 100% yet..

Imagine when he is at 100%..

Harrison should some promise as well.

Frye looks like he can scramble and make something out of nothing a good part of the time..

[Unchainme]

I will tell you one team to worry about..

Jaxsonville looks like a contender for the Super Bowl...

They look legit..

[POJO_Risin]

There are a lot of questions for the Browns...he was moving around way to much...

their line sucks ass...

as for Jax...

well...they were at home...

and Dallas' offense wasn't exactly impressive after the first quarter...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Originally posted by Unchainme
I will tell you one team to worry about..

Jaxsonville looks like a contender for the Super Bowl...

They look legit..

They've always been a good team at home...

We shall see next Monday night if they can go 2-0 vs. the World Champs....

[POJO_Risin]

Uhh...

no...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

And another twist of As The Penguins Sale Turns....

This one, if true, is not as bad as it seems, in fact it's good news IMO...

The press, once they got hold off Mr. Blackberry (Jim Balsillie) as one of the prospective owners, immediately speculated that his main objective would be to move the team to Hamilton....

But now it appears, again if true, that he's teaming up with Mark Cuban and Murstein to make a more powerful offer to buy the team....

Mark Cuban may be a fucking goofball, but there's no way Cuban, a Mt. Lebanon native, would be involved in anything to move the Penguins....


http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=2841

Pittsburgh Sale Nearing?

Sources tell me that CEO of RIM/Blackberry, James Balsillie, is involved in a group that includes Dallas Mavericks owner, Mark Cuban and Andy Murstein, president of Medallion Financial Corp. in New York looking to purchase the Pittsburgh Penguins. Balsillie could sign a purchase agreement as early as next week.

[POJO_Risin]

Any way to get Cuban involved in a moribund (like that one?) Penguins franchise is a good thing...

and you know what...

if he is part of MOVING the team...then you know there is nothing else that could be done.

I agree...no way he is involved in moving that team, unless there's nothing left to do but move the team.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Fellas, I shit you not, I watched this game live last night, and when I first saw this, and he didn't move for a few minutes, I thought he broke his fucking neck....

They just announced the update, dislocated shoulder....Supposedly it popped out, and they popped it back in the dressing room....

But the positive signs, at least for making the season opener vs. the Flyers on the 5th, is that he took the plane with the team back to the 'Burgh last night, with no sling, and joking with his teammates.... He also showed up at practice this morning, and although he didn't skate, didn't show any signs of being in pain....

So let's just hope he's good to go two weeks from today....

But boy did this guy juke a few Flyer defensemen out of their jocks when he was in there....

And of course, that SICK pass to LeClair, that he promptly fucked up....


http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k55/ferr3816/img9674553.jpg

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[POJO_Risin]

WHY THE FUCK WAS COLCLOUGH OUT THERE AND NOT FUCKING HOLMES????

WHY IS IT THAT THE ENTIRE FUCKING STADIUM GROANED WHEN HE WALKED OUT ONTO THE FIELD...BECAUSE HE SUCKS?

FUCKING WHY!!!!!

A bye week...

Cowher needs to be bitch-slapped...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Congrats to Freddy Sanchez, National League Batting Champion !!!!

Goes 2 for 4, ends up at .344....

A nice ending on an otherwise shitty season, again.....

[POJO_Risin]

So...who should the Pirates trade Sanchez too?

[Va Beach VH Fan]

No, they're gonna give him an extension in the offseason....

Can't say the same for Castillo, a lot of talk that he's tradebait....

[POJO_Risin]

If you were Sanchez...would you TAKE an extension?

[POJO_Risin]

I suppose he pretty much has to...he's nowhere near close to being able to roll to free agency...

[POJO_Risin]

The Pirates are fucking confounding...

it's amazing to me that they can't get a fucking owner in there that gives a shit...

if they just took a hit at the bank one year...for good players...just a couple...

and they made a run...

and had a bit of marketing...

they could do something in that season...

It's really to bad the Rooney's didn't own that team as well...

[POJO_Risin]

Of course...they aren't stupid...

[POJO_Risin]

I need a fucking break...like Moss breaking his fucking leg or some shit like that...

[POJO_Risin]

OPf course...this isn't the right thread...lmfao...

[POJO_Risin]

Jim Balsillie, a Canadian businessman who's company created the Blackberry, purchases the Penguins...

and will be announced as the new Team Owner tonight in Pittsburgh.

Thoughts in a moment...

[POJO_Risin]

Of course...this doesn't become official until later in the year...

when the owners vote...but at this point...

it appears to be a done deal...

of course..."done deal," and actually being done are 2 different sorts...

[POJO_Risin]

Bettman wants the team to stay...

but says there needs to be a new arena...

there are currently 2 plans in the works...

[POJO_Risin]

Plan A is dependent on the slot license for the Isle of Capri, one of three vying for the license...

if they get it....they will use 290 million to build an arena and complex for the Pens.

But it's far from a guarantee that they will get it...

[POJO_Risin]

Plan B is a complicated sort...

but doable...

The Pens will front about 9 million...Plus about 3 million a year for naming rights...

both the other potential slot license winners have agreed to pay 7 1/2 million a year for 30 years to help fund the arena...and place their slots in the arena...

Another 7 million a year would come from the state...in a slots funded development program.

Of course...the part that's left out of this is who pays the bill up front...

Sounds doable...but again...in this saga...who knows...

[POJO_Risin]

Balsillie backed out of an earlier agreement when Bettman said that he had to try and keep the team in Pittsburgh...

since he wanted to move the team to Hamilton, Ontario.

Now...Balsillie says he will keep the team in Pittsburgh...as long as there is a new arena...

Bettman says the same thing...

it's as if they are reading off the same script...

and frankly...

scares the shit out of me...

If Isle of Capri gets the license...it's a done deal...

if they don't...

Plan B isn't a lock...

and may prompt Balsillie to quickly bolt...which is what he would preferably do...

especially..with the lease up in June...

What will happen?

stay tuned...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Nah....

No way Mario sells the team to someone intent on moving it...

Press conference tonight between 1st and 2nd periods.....

I just got off of my soapbox on my blog because of the coverage....

[POJO_Risin]

So Va...

you are telling me...

that if they don't get a new arena...

the new owner is just going to say...

"Gee, I'm going to keep losing money..."

especially when he came in initially saying he was going to move the team?

NOW...you have Bettman and this guy both saying the same thing...

I WON'T MOVE THE TEAM...

IF...

we get a new arena...

And I'm sorry...but as good a guy as Mario is...he can't hold onto the team forever...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

No, don't misunderstand me big guy...

Even the biggest optimists have to concur that if the slots license fails, then Plan B talks break down, then yeah, it's all over...

What I'm saying is that the new owner, IMO, will make every attempt to make Plan B work, unless the city/county can't make a deal work....

Which is not going to happen, with everything I'm reading about those parties being willing right now to negotiate, which the Pens can't really do right now until they get word in December about who wins the slots license.

[POJO_Risin]

Thing is...from what my Dad's been telling me...Lemieux thinks the Plan B deal stinks...

how come? I read an article the other day that had Rendell "pleading" with Lemieux to agree to "plan B" right now...or endorse it...and he wouldn't because of "discretions."

Now if those discretions are that he's not the owner when it all goes down...that's one thing...

But the thing is bro...thing about how you are about sports. Let's say YOU were buying the Pens in July, and wanted to move them to Virginia Beach. You'd spent your life there...your business is there...everything is there. You want to bring your Peeps an NHL club. Then you realize Mario won't sell if you are moving the team. Not the NHL...not really...but Mario. So you pull your name out of the hat. Watch for a couple of months...then come back...and loe and behold...ready to leave the team in Pittsburgh? I know how stubborn you are...and I really know how stubborn I am.

I think he'll "try" to keep the team in Pittsburgh...but I don't think he'll make "every attempt" to do it. I think he'll be as passive as he can be...and if the "chips" fall where they may...so be it...

I DON'T think that it will be an issue...I really don't...because I don't think the license will go elsewhere...

but if it does...I see trouble...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

The thing about the Pens not commenting on Plan B is that they've said from the start that they are contractually aligned with Isle Of Capri, and until that slots license is resolved, they won't comment or do any negotiations with Plan B.

So while some say that they're not commenting on Plan B because they don't like it, I think it's because they're keeping loyal to the IOC agreement, until that time comes....

[POJO_Risin]

I actually need to see more of plan B before I even comment on it...

it seems...a bit unrealistic...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Ask and ye shall receive my friend...

As you see, it's not a bad deal at all, compared to what other NHL clubs are dishing out....

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06280/728140-61.stm

Plan B would leave Pens at center ice
Deal comparable to others given in NHL
Saturday, October 07, 2006

By Mark Belko, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette



Gov. Ed Rendell's Plan B for financing a new hockey arena here would be a middling deal for the Penguins, compared to other recent arena projects involving National Hockey League teams.

It would require the Penguins to kick in $128.5 million over 30 years toward the arena's $563.5 million cost plus debt service -- or 22.8 percent.

Since 2000, National Hockey League teams have contributed anywhere from zero to more than 30 percent of the cost of building arenas in the cities in which they play.

Plan B could be the key to keeping the Penguins in Pittsburgh under new owner Jim Balsillie if Isle of Capri Casinos Inc. does not win the state license for the Pittsburgh slot machine casino.

To the Penguins and Mr. Balsillie, Isle of Capri offers the best of all deals -- a pledge of $290 million upfront to cover the entire cost of a new arena, with no team money involved. It guarantees that the Penguins would stay put.

Mr. Balsillie, a Canadian businessman, wanted last summer to move the team to Ontario, but more recently has indicated he would try to keep it in Pittsburgh, contingent on a workable deal for a new arena.

Plan B is the fallback if Isle of Capri, one of three casino bidders, doesn't win the competition. It calls for the team to put in $8.5 million up front, plus $4 million per year over 30 years.

Another $7.5 million a year for 30 years would come from the winning casino bidder, either Forest City Enterprises or PITG Gaming LLC, and $7 million a year from a slots-financed state economic development fund, under Mr. Rendell's plan.

In dollars, the $128.5 million would be more than the Columbus Blue Jackets (zero), Minnesota Wild ($35 million), Phoenix Coyotes ($40 million) and New Jersey Devils ($100 million) have paid or, in the case of the Devils, will pay for a new arena.

The only bigger contribution in dollars was for the American Airlines Center in Dallas, where the basketball Mavericks and hockey Stars put in a combined $295 million toward the $420 million construction.

Plan B's 22.8 percent for the Penguins is lower than the Stars/Mavericks' 70.2 percent and the Devils' 32.2 percent but higher than the Blue Jackets' zero, the Coyotes' 18.1 percent, and the Wild's 21.2 percent.

Neil deMause, co-author of Field of Schemes, a book about stadium financing controversies, said the Plan B deal appears to be in the middle of the pack, or as he put it, "about par for the course in terms of sweetheart deals."

Arena deals, he said, tend to be "pretty [bad] ones for the public so being right in the middle ... is not something to be proud of."

Allen Sanderson, senior lecturer in economics at the University of Chicago, said the present value of the team contribution under Plan B would be in the neighborhood of $50 million to $60 million.

"In present-value terms, that's such a small fraction of the value of the facility. That's a deal," he said.

Whether it's a deal Mr. Balsillie can accept remains to be seen. In speaking with reporters Thursday, he threw his support behind the Isle of Capri proposal but had little to say about Plan B.

Allegheny County Chief Executive Dan Onorato and Pittsburgh Mayor Luke Ravenstahl spoke to a representative of Mr. Balsillie for the first time yesterday. Both have said that Plan B terms are negotiable.

Mr. Ravenstahl said the most recent arena deals show that "we're right in the mix. We're in position to have discussions and ultimately to be successful."

Neither he nor Mr. Onorato engaged in any negotiations with the representative of Mr. Balsillie in their first talk yesterday. Mr. Ravenstahl said the conversation was "more of an introductory type of thing."

Although Mr. Balsillie spoke of the urgency of building a new arena Thursday, Mr. Ravenstahl said he does not expect formal negotiations to begin until the NHL approves the sale. That may not come until December, when the NHL Board of Governors is next scheduled to meet.

[POJO_Risin]

I'm going to take the stance of everyone else...and not talk about plan B until I have too...

right now...

I think the Isle of Capri deal goes through...

if not...

well...

I don't have a lot of faith in Plan B...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Ye of little faith... :D

To be honest, the consensus is that the Forest City group (Harrah's) has the edge, of course because of political reasons..

And of course politics has nothing to do with common sense, i.e. if IOC wins, they front the entire 290 million for the arena....

Although, with the recent news that Harrah's just got a bid to be taken over, that may skew things....

We'll know in December....

[POJO_Risin]

Well...I can tell you this...

I grew up in Cleveland...and watched a team leave...

Why?

Not because of the fans...the place sold out weekly...equally as rabid as our Steelers

Why?

because of a stadium. Modell wanted a stadium. Now, Cleveland had turned down a stadium proposal a year or so earlier...and Modell used it to ride his fucking broom out of town. Thing is...Cleveland was going to build him a stadium (since the ultimately did). He had just run the team into a ground and needed a sweetheart deal to stay afloat.

Reality though...is that any sensible business man could make a team work in Cleveland because of the fan base.

this is what I compare every potential move too...because I remember when I first heard about the move...I thought...and so did everyone else..."NO WAY."

Now...with the Pens move...I see many striking similarities...

NOBODY WANTS them to move seemingly...

They've had issues with building a new building...

and now...they have an owner who truth be told, would rather have a team closer to home (although any moron would take Plan A because he pays nothing for new digs).

I have faith...

but in plan A...because it's to good to be true.

[Unchainme]

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I stumbled on this..

Kordell was pretty damn good back in the day...

Sucks balls that this was against the browns though..

[POJO_Risin]

Kordell had 2 good...no...great season...and nothing else...

and he imploded in both playoffs...costing them the game...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

I miss Three Rivers sometimes....

Much louder than Heinz Field with it being enclosed....

I'm sure the players don't feel that way though...

[POJO_Risin]

Three Rivers was a great fucking place to see a football game...

I've seen 12 games there over the years...mostly against the Browns...

and when that placed Rocked...well...

it rocked...

[Unchainme]

eh..I sorta know what you mean...

I never got to see a game at the old Muni..

I went to a game at the new stadium last year...and the energy just was weird...Even if you never went to a game at the muni like me you could sense it....I was like the spirit was dead..

[POJO_Risin]

Nobody likes the Muni...

I do...

I fucking loved the pillars that blocked your view...

and the 80 grand that came ever game and shattered eardrums...

and this from an old season ticket holder...;)

[POJO_Risin]

It's amazing really...fucking San Diego...

and look at the Steeler fans there...it's unreal really...

like I said...if they aren't the best fans in the country...then they are 1A...

not in the fucking top five...is bullshit...

[POJO_Risin]

Second tackle of the fucking game...and the motherfuckers are pounding on their chest like they won the fucking superbowl...

shitty start...tipped incompletion...

3 yard loss on a run...

and a near sack...but I think he got back to the line...

already fucking punting...

[POJO_Risin]

Pittsburgh's D has totally shut them down...

Pittsburgh's O has totally sucked...

[ODShowtime]

The "refs" in Atlanta on Sunday are a bunch of kansas city faggots.

Thank you.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Originally posted by ODShowtime
The "refs" in Atlanta on Sunday are a bunch of kansas city faggots.

Thank you.

For as much as I'd like to agree with you, the refs are the least of their problems.....

[POJO_Risin]

I've never seen a fucking Steeler team look so damn fucking high school...

fumbles...

no running game...against a team that the fucking Giants ate up on the ground...

and how about that fucking D...

swiss fucking cheese...

it will be a fucking miracle if they win 8 games...

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
For as much as I'd like to agree with you, the refs are the least of their problems.....


Yeah, we still lost the game ourselves, but the Ben hit and just taking our chance at 3 points at the end... those two together. It's complete BS.

Yes I am aware of the irony of a Steelers fan bitching about calls.

I'm just so pissed about this game. That onsides kick? That will work 1 out of every 5 times. :rolleyes:

Our special teams really lost the game, in my opinion.

The defense played good overall, but they were on the field too much... because of special teams.

I am so sick of teams getting 1st downs with 3rd and 20. :rolleyes:

It doesn't matter, the season's toast now. I'm not wearing my special mojo hat at all this season. F' it.

[scamper]

Originally posted by ODShowtime
The "refs" in Atlanta on Sunday are a bunch of kansas city faggots.

Thank you.

You're right, where was the flag when that corner for Pitt was slapping Jenkins in the face while he was trying to catch the long ball on the first Falcon drive?

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by scamper
You're right, where was the flag when that corner for Pitt was slapping Jenkins in the face while he was trying to catch the long ball on the first Falcon drive?

Give me a break. You dirty bastards hit Ben helmet to helmet and got away with it. And some shithead at the bar was laughing and cheering about it. Did you? Classless.


I have no respect for the Falcons right now. And I would if not for that play. The team had some good plays and lucky breaks.

[Unchainme]

Dude..What the hell is wrong with the Steelers?

You guys are not looking to hot...

[scamper]

Originally posted by ODShowtime
Give me a break. You dirty bastards hit Ben helmet to helmet and got away with it. And some shithead at the bar was laughing and cheering about it. Did you? Classless.


I have no respect for the Falcons right now. And I would if not for that play. The team had some good plays and lucky breaks.


I don't laugh when players get hurt, and I'll bet that none of the falcon players did either. On the other side hits happen it's football, there was no fine it wasn't on purpose. My point was don't bitch about the ref's they didn't cost the Steelers the game.

[POJO_Risin]

Turnovers...period...

just plain poor play...

Pittsburgh is much better than this...

and shows you all the years that they struggled...

WHY QB'S FUCKING MEAN SO MUCH...

Right now, I'm pretty fucking pissed off at Roeth...

You look back to that motorcycle accident...

and really wonder how fucked up he is...

[rustoffa]

It's funny. The Oakland Raiders D held the x-plosive Donkey O down three weeks ago. Same thing...poor play on Denver's part. Fuck the Arizona game...Denny Green got victimized? Was it poor play?

Blitzburgh's D held the Raider's to 98 yards....that's exceptional play.

Roeth was under pressure from the get-go...don't forget the penalties. IMO, Oakland's red zone defense was spot-on. The dime package call on the Carr INT...etc. Bend, don't break.

Hat's off to an old-school AFC weirdathon. Oh yeah, Art Shell's a dipshit.

Bring on the Donkeys!!!
:D

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/1172/oaklandat5.jpg

[Little Texan]

Va Beach...Pojo...gentlemen, what has happened to your Steelers?

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by scamper
I don't laugh when players get hurt, and I'll bet that none of the falcon players did either. On the other side hits happen it's football, there was no fine it wasn't on purpose. My point was don't bitch about the ref's they didn't cost the Steelers the game.

The Steelers get fined for exessive celebration and no one gets fined for helmet to helmet contact?

I'll bitch all I want thank you.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Taking my son to meet Rocky Bleier at 6PM tonight at one of the local malls, where he's signing autographs....

Gonna see if he might consider suiting up tomorrow vs. Denver.... ;)

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Holy shit....

Just got back from the meet and greet with Rocky...

Very cool man, very friendly and made small talk with everyone.... Taking pictures and all that stuff (I forgot ours)....

40 clams a pop for autographs, plus whatever you buy for him to sign....

I bought a mini helmet, and he signs it with a gold Sharpie as follows:

To Domenic (my youngest son's name)

Go Steelers !

[[ Rocky Bleier ]]

SB IX X XIII XIV

That would have been good enough for me...

Then the kicker....

He's got all 4 of his Super Bowl rings there with him, AND IS LETTING EVERYONE PUT THE RINGS ON THEIR FINGERS !!!!!

HOLY DOG SHIT !!

You bastards should have seen the shit eating grin on my face when I had those rings on my fingers....

Big, HUGE fucking rings.....

The kid in front of us dropped one of his rings on the cement floor....

PING !!!!

Rocky didn't seem to be too upset with that, I'm sure they've been dropped before....

I told him that he looked about 6'5" when he caught that TD pass against the Cowboys in the Super Bowl....

[POJO_Risin]

Christ...we could still use him...

I am so fucking sick of them saying that Gardocki has NEVER had a fucking punt blocked...the homos...

[POJO_Risin]

That's All Folks!

[MAX]

Sorry. :)

[POJO_Risin]

Now we become spoilers...

and it comes down to Indy and NE...

[MAX]

I really did feel bad for you today bro.

[POJO_Risin]

Why...

They fucking blew it...

5 fucking turnovers...you can't beat anyone doing that...

what can you do...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Not that it means anything, but it was 6 turnovers, 4 of those inside the Denver 10 yard line....

Embarrassing, just embarrassing...

[POJO_Risin]

Well...there was ONE inside the 10 that really didn't mean anything...

but their penchant for turning the ball over inside the fucking red zone is fucking horrible...

and they could have gotten back into it today...with 5 games left in the fucking division...

fucking horrible...just horrible...

[Little Texan]

What is up with the Steelers this year? How have they gone from being Super Bowl champs to being a losing team in such a short amount of time? I thought the Super Bowl losers were the ones that were supposed to have a bad season the next year, not the victors! Are the loss of Antwaan Randle El and Jerome Bettis hurting them that much? You know this all started when Big Ben had that motorcycle wreck...he's been all out of sorts and hasn't been the same since.

[HELLVIS]

I spent the weekend in Canton, Oh. to take in the Hall Of Fame Game. If you haven't gone, GO! It was a blast. It is played in a high school stadium next to the Pro Football Hall Of Fame. I may post details about the experience later, but for now, I'd like to focus on the Steelers. My seats were in the 11th row at the 40 yard line, and the hits were SO LOUD.

The Steelers won the toss and elected to recieve. Willie Reid muffed. I was thinking , "Oh shit here we go again." But, after a short running play, Big Ben exploited ex-Bengal Kevin Kaesviharn with a 55 yard pass to Cedrick Wilson. The 5 play drive was punctuated by a Steeler TD.

Then Colston, Bush, Brees and the Saints were 3 and out. PUNT.

Enter Charlie batch. First play...17 yard pass to Wilson, a couple rushes by Davenport, and a 40 yard pass attempt to Wilson (which should have drawn a pass interfence flag). Punt.

Same first string Saints, same result...3 and out. PUNT!

The Steelers quickly went to 2nd and 3rd stringers with scoring drives by 1st 2nd and 3rd string QBs.

The defense looked very good as well. The hits were unreal. There was even a knock out scored by Steelers corner William Gay against a Saints reciever. Gay also got an interception. In the first half, Pittsburgh outgained New Orleans 305-56, including 205-32 in the air. Overall, it was 413-214.
Steelers 20 Saints 7

It may be early, but the Tomlin era has started off loud and proud.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Good job resurrecting the thread Hellvis....

I was quite impressed for the 1st game, two weeks into camp....

I want to see Ben in a good half of work to really get an accurate assessment, hopefully during the Skins game when I'll be there....

The running backs were awesome, I think Barlow and Haynes will get cut.... Davenport, Davis, and Russell looked that good.....

Looking early like Colon's gonna beat out Starks at RT...

And James Harrison better hurry up and get healthy or Lamarr Woodley will steal his spot.....

[HELLVIS]

Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
Good job resurrecting the thread Hellvis....


Not a problem.

[ALinChainz]

Whats with the new mascot?

The throwback stuff is real cool ... but the mascot ...

http://news.steelers.com/article/75934/

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Trust me Al, this mascot campaign is not going over well AT ALL....

They just named the fucker....

Steely McBeam....

I have a feeling this will be a one year deal, if that, then they can throw him to the scrapyard....

[ALinChainz]

Unreal ... reminds me of "Sparty" ... the Michigan State mascot.

[ROTHisGOD]

yeah...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Yeah !!!! Bringing this fucker back to life !!!

Steelers -2 at Tennessee on Sunday....

I think Johnson and White are gonna have a loooooong day, the Steelers haven't allowed a 100 yard rusher this year (again) and it ain't gonna start Sunday....

Plus, both Haynesworth and VandenBosch will be out, doesn't bode well for stopping the Steelers run game, not to mention their receivers....

I think this has a good chance for a Steelers blowout, you can feel they're starting to get primed for the playoffs....

[Va Beach VH Fan]

I think this has a good chance for a Steelers blowout, you can feel they're starting to get primed for the playoffs....

Just forget I said this.... ;)

Boy did they mail it in today.... Really a ho-hum effort....

[ODShowtime]

Not the best effort last Sunday in Nashville, but I hope the Steelers didn't play all of their cards in anticipation of another meeting.

That said, I would like to congratulate

JAMES 'DEEBO' 'SILVERBACK' HARRISON

http://blogs.bet.com/news/playahater/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/nfl_u_harrison_412.jpg

on becoming the Steelers' single season sack record holder with 16 sacks and most likely a 3 week rest before stepping onto the field and into the divisional playoffs at Heinz Field.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Not bad for an undrafted player.... ;)

I almost bought tix for this Sunday's game, as I'm heading north on Saturday.... Thank goodness I decided against it...

Gonna go see Lebron vs. Wade on Sunday....

[Unchainme]

Not bad for an undrafted player.... ;)


..From my hometown area of Akron, Ohio none-the less. ;).

[ODShowtime]

Now my man is AP Defensive Player of the Year!



http://bleacherreport.com/images_root/image_pictures/0013/1937/random_key_84234_file_9740506_Steelers_v_Cowboys_a rticle.jpg



Fuckin' badass

[ODShowtime]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_46r1n1AcXio/SYeXbLz9-MI/AAAAAAAAEBU/f_dHq6xwANg/s1600/everyonecigars.jpg

What else can my man do?

That's 6, bitches

:fufu:

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Had to change the sub-title from SB 40 to 43 !!!

That's how long this thread's been around...

[ODShowtime]

Anyway, hells yeah the Steelers are reigning champs again! It hasn't been that long, has it?

Looks like it just you, me and the browns fan in here these days keepin it real.

unchainme, what's up with that gay elf logo thing for the browns? Is he the shit fairy or something?

[Rikk]

My second time I've enjoyed a Steelers Superbowl win since becoming a fan. Not a great win by them, but a win nevertheless. Fuck yeah.

[Unchainme]

unchainme, what's up with that gay elf logo thing for the browns? Is he the shit fairy or something?

He's not gay, unlike "Steely McBeam" whom looks like an extra from the Village People. :biggrin:

But yeah,m, Pretty much the most awesome classic logo ever. When the Browns were THE team in the NFL/Pro Football from '46-'64 it was there logo.


So, you may know that the Browns were named after popular coaching god Paul Brown by a newspaper contest in 1945 in which the prize was a $1,000 war bond. However, what remained a mystery to me was how the Browns' elf, "Brownie", became the team mascot. Nowhere on the Browns' official website can I find any information regarding Brownie--probably because the Browns foolishly stopped using his likeness circa... sometime in the past.

We keep tabs on what search terms visitors may use to find our blog. And recently, it seems that maybe half of the new visitors to the Mistake by the Lake Sporting Times have found us by searching for something like "brownie elf browns" or "brownie mascot". They can find us just because of one tiny entry I did in a past Born and Raised mentioning how I liked the Brownie the Elf parkas the Browns now wore. Intrigued by this unknown interest in Brownie, I myself went searching for the history of the logo.

It turns out that a Brownie is actually a type of elf in Northern European folklore. Apparently they live in homes and aid in household tasks at night. Oh, and they have no nose. I suppose that after the team was named the Browns, the front office realized the difficulty in finding a logo outside of using a picture of Paul Brown or the color brown itself. They might have contemplated using the baked dessert brownie, but eventually settled on the elf version. This is a modern day approximant of what a Brownie would look like.

Mistake by the Lake Sporting Times: All Hail Brownie, the Browns Elf! (http://mistakesports.blogspot.com/2004/12/all-hail-brownie-browns-elf.html)

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Hmmm, I thought the Ravens were supposed to be able to beat anyone, anytime.... Guess not....

Source: Ravens ask NFL for no prime-time game in Pittsburgh -- baltimoresun.com (http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-ravens320,0,7828732.story)

Source: Ravens ask NFL for no prime-time game in Pittsburgh

By Jamison Hensley | jamison.hensley@baltsun.com 11:21 AM EDT, March 20, 2009

Contrary to rumors, the Ravens are not expected to kick off the 2009 regular season at the defending Super Bowl champion Pittsburgh Steelers in the Thursday night season opener.

As part of their scheduling requests to the league, the Ravens asked not to play a prime-time game at Heinz Field this season, a team official told The Baltimore Sun.

The Ravens have played a nationally televised game at Pittsburgh for three of the past four seasons, including the past two years. The Ravens have never won a prime-time game at Pittsburgh, losing all four times.

It has become tradition that the defending Super Bowl champion opens the NFL season with a nationally televised game at home. There were rumors that the league would begin with Ravens-Steelers, a rematch of the AFC championship game.

The first games of the 2009 season -- the prime-time games for Thursday, Sunday and Monday nights -- are expected to be announced next week at the NFL owners meetings. The rest of the regular-season schedule is usually announced in April.

[ODShowtime]

Hmmm, I thought the Ravens were supposed to be able to beat anyone, anytime.... Guess not....

Ravens ask NFL for no prime-time game in Pittsburgh

I'm reading Three Bricks Shy of a Load right now and they are talking about hitting. Mike Wagner I believe was pointing out that the way you get hurt is when you're scared and you flinch right before contact. That's baltimore's whole method of operation. They're weak.

You need to sell out the hit and be aggressive. Wagner said not being afraid of the hits was the only way to survive them.

http://www.nfljuice.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/nfljuice.jpg

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Six-Time Super Bowl Champion Pittsburgh Steelers open pre-season Thursday night at home vs. Arizona....

I get a couple texts a day from the Steelers....

From what I gather;

- Ziggy Hood is gonna be a horse, he's gonna get significant playing time THIS YEAR, since the D-line is getting long in the teeth...

- Limas Sweed is having a very good camp, looks like between he and Wallace for the #3 receiver

- Mike Wallace is having a GREAT camp, catching everything thrown at him....

- Darnell Stapleton's knee injury is not good, although he's not out for the year... They signed Alex Stepanovich from OSU just in case....

[POJO_Risin]

As good a camp as Limas Sweed is having, everything I'm hearing is that both Shaun McDonald and Mike Wallace are exceeding him in both speed and hands.

Personally...I could care a less. All three performing does nothing but help the Steelers.

One of my good friends from High School sent me a ton of pictures from camp, and the Steelers staff had Ziggy Hood predominantly displayed in nearly every line drill, but not with the starters for the most part. Aaron Smith wasn't there, and Nick Eason replaced him. Tomlin at his best, firing up the kid I'm sure. As you said Va, the Steelers line is long in the tooth (and so much fucking younger than me damn it), but Hood may turn out to be one of their best linemen. We'll see. Everything is in his favor to play a lot.

Stepanovich was a very, very good player at Ohio State, and comes from a long line of solid centers and offensive horses in the middle. If it weren't for injuries, Stepanovich would still be a starter in the league. Perhaps he is finally recovered enough to resemble a solid player.

I don't want to talk about the damn line though...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Typical Steelers pre-season game. extremely vanilla gameplan....

Nice to see Sepulveda back booming punts....

Sweed with the nice catch on 3rd down....

Defense bending but not breaking....

[ODShowtime]

I was pleased with the performance of all three #3 receivers. Like POJO said, who cares which one wins the job since he'll be the best for the Steelers. Sweed is so huge though. I remember when the Steelers had Plax and all you had to do was throw it high and slightly out of bounds and you had a no risk pass play.

And ah yes the outside linebackers. Best tandem in the league.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

I was pleased with the performance of all three #3 receivers. Like POJO said, who cares which one wins the job since he'll be the best for the Steelers. Sweed is so huge though. I remember when the Steelers had Plax and all you had to do was throw it high and slightly out of bounds and you had a no risk pass play.

And ah yes the outside linebackers. Best tandem in the league.

To an extent, Plax was not the best WR in terms of using his size to his advantage, at least not until he was in the league about 5 years...

[ODShowtime]

To an extent, Plax was not the best WR in terms of using his size to his advantage, at least not until he was in the league about 5 years...

I remember a couple of good plays, but I agree, he didn't reach his potential until he got to NYC. At that point he really proved his potential - being a total dipshit.

While the Steelers just went and picked another SB MVP receiver.

[POJO_Risin]

Plax never reached his potential. With his size, he should have dominated the inside and the outside.

He's never really done that with any sort of consistency.

What he can do well is go up with a corner, work them until they are out of position, and make spectacular catches.

I liked him...wanted him to stay a Steeler...but of course...in hindsight...am glad he is gone.

I ask you...would he have ever made that catch that Holmes made...after the near catch on the other side?

Sweed...there's just something tenacious about him. He dropped that ball last year, than made a couple of good catches afterwards. This year...he's been nothing short of spectacular. He has way more upside than Nate Washington...and will certainly take over for Ward. Why? HE CAN BLOCK!

Mike Wallace...to me...is slashish in many ways. He's lightning fast...and can return like a demon....along with Stefan Logan. I'm saying it...

In two years, the Steelers may have gone from the worst special teams...to the best...

Nothing against Mewelde Moore...but does he need to even return punts anymore?

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Fuck no, not with Logan back there....

Dante Hall, ver 2.0....

[POJO_Risin]

Yeah Va...I was worried that they wouldn't keep both Wallace and Logan...with Logan not having really any position to play...and Wallace being nearly as electric...

I'm glad they realized that head the Rossum of ten years ago...and not the Rossum of two years ago...

[POJO_Risin]

In all seriousness...in all my years since the Dynasty...

I've never seen the Steelers so deep and talented...

and it's nearly at all positions...although I'm still not super-thrilled with their line...although I do see improvement...

[ODShowtime]

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/images/200909/dianasteelers0831aa_500.jpg

[POJO_Risin]

Fuck LenDale White...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Where should I start...

I'm really forcing myself to NOT get carried away with them squeaking out the win last night....

It's a long season, but more importantly last night, you've gotta acknowledge, Tennessee is a very good team....

They've got a good aggressive defense, especially against the run, so the fact that the Steelers running game didn't do shit isn't causing me to panic, not just yet anyway... And I'm really hoping my decision to keep Parker doesn't come back and bite me in the butt-ocks....

I thought the O-line made some good adjustments after halftime, although for some reason the Titans didn't blitz as much, and Ben made them pay....

Once again, the most overrated CB in football, Ike Taylor, had yet another shitty game....

I hope Troy's injury isn't worse than the 3-6 weeks they've been saying.... Strange, he walked into the locker room with hardly a limp... Then again, that guy is a specimen...

So yeah, a win is a win is a win.... They go on the road to Chicago where it should go well, but you now how I feel about trap games on the road, and this one falls directly into that category...

I feel like I'm writing the blog again... :D

[TAKIN WHISKEY]

The Bears aren't really a trap game. The Steelers will have a game much like what they just played against the Titans. Ball control tough defensive efforts. The touchdown Roethlisberger threw was 40 yards on a rope.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Nah, sorry dude.... The Bears are NOT the Titans....

That was the same shit they said when Erlacher and Co. came into Heinz Field and promptly got their asses handed to them....

BUT, if the Steelers think it's going to be an easy game, then I'd agree, they could lose it...

[Fairwrning]

I would like to honor the 6 time champions with this rendition of "simply the best"....And before you ask that is NOT Va in the middle
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[Va Beach VH Fan]

No silly, I'm the one third from the left....

[Fairwrning]

you had the best moves then bro..

[POJO_Risin]

They won...

I agree with this Va...their line played better in the second...but likely BECAUSE there was less blitzing.

The offensive line still fucking blows.

Timmons not playing in my book was huge on the defensive side, and his return will soften the blow of Troy...because they play similarly...although obviously coming from different directions...

Parker and that run game? Well...

Well...

They won...

Chicago is likely better than Va gives them credit for. Cutler is far superior to any QB they've had since Grossman's luck year three years ago, and could provide troubles with TroyP out of the game. Their offense will be much improved...but we are talking about the Steelers' offense.

I think it's less of a trap game, and more of a good game that the Steelers should win.

I'd be more worried if we were playing the Browns or the Bengals...

[chefcraig]

Has there been any definitive word on Troy's condition? I figured the team would keep mum about his prognosis, because let's face it, he is the type of guy you have to plan for in game situations. I wish him a speedy recovery.

[POJO_Risin]

NO official word until Monday...

but I wonder if this quiet is a good thing...

Tomlin throws out 3-6 weeks...which is odd for him to do...he's usually mum about shit like that...

Then we find TP flinging himself down the field during practice next week...

We can only pray...

[POJO_Risin]

Fucking Madden curse...

[POJO_Risin]

Pittsburgh looking to re-sign it's biggest free agent...although he's not available to be a free agent until after 2010...

and that's Tomlin...

He's making 2.5 million right now...

Jeff Fisher is making 5.5 million...

Cowher's looking for...get this...10 million...to return...

What should Tomlin get?

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Fisher's been coach for what, 15 years ??

Tomlin will get about 4 mil or so....

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Love Jerome's objectivity here...

John Fox's job in jeopardy; Pittsburgh*defense in trouble - Jerome Bettis - SI.com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jerome_bettis/09/14/bus.stops/1.html)

3. One more reason Pittsburgh's in trouble: these Steelers are a mediocre running team on their best day. I don't think they've reached a panic situation quite yet because the Titans don't allow anyone to run the football on them. But there are serious problems.

Willie Parker: I haven't seen much from him. Rashard Mendenhall: I haven't really seen him, period. One thing I have seen is Mewelde Moore making plays. And I think the little guy's going to get more of those opportunities as the Steelers continue to grow into what I think will be more of a passing team in 2009.

The running back I like least on that team is Frank Summers, the rookie fullback. He doesn't seem to understand what's going on. He's missing plenty of blocks, and that's affecting everything. That definitely has to be addressed off the field this week.

The bigger problem, though, is the offensive line. They have no continuity. On top of not being able to protect Ben Roethlisberger, they're letting running backs get hit before they reach the line of scrimmage. There's not a lot any back can do in that situation.

This problem isn't anything new, and I blame the coaching staff for not addressing the line in the offseason. How did they rationalize not doing anything about it? Well, they won a Super Bowl. They won't be so lucky twice in a row. If Ben continues to get hit the way he did Thursday -- the same way he did last year, then this will come back to haunt the Steelers. Ben will get hurt. Ben will miss games. And they don't have a line to run behind without Ben. Pittsburgh can't repeat with the line playing like this.

[Mr Walker]

The Steelers are 6-2 when Troy has been out with injury... just sayin'!

[POJO_Risin]

Fisher's been coach for 15 years...and won how many Super Bowls?

He'll make 5.something...

I'm not as worried about Troy being out as some...it would be different if it were December...

They'll win more than they lose with or without him...

Good to see you Walker...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

I hesitate to even mention it, but for the 37th consecutive year, there are "T.J. Duckett to the Steelers" rumors out there....

[ODShowtime]

Ok Troy is out for a few weeks, but the athletic Timmons can help in the middle... except he re-injured his god damn ankle in practice yesterday!!! SHIT!

Ok, Fox has been labeled a better run stopper than Timmons, but we could really use a quick game changer in the flats and all of that. Oh well, ain't gonna happen.

Sweed also sprained his foot yesterday, luckily we have Wallace and McDonald to lessen the blow.

Regarding the run game, I'm not sure that Parker is done quite yet, and remember he played very little in the preseason which might explain his sheepishness in hitting the holes. Either way I'm glad we don't have him signed past this year. I love ya' Willie, but we're trying to win football games.

Shit, Cutler looked so bad out there Sunday, if he is half as confused by the Steeler D we should be ok.

I'm just glad the game is on TV here. Steelers games are not the same without the old bong and whiskey bottle handy. That's the only way I got through the week 1 shit kicking festival. God damn right back to the Superbowl with the tension. I kept forgetting it was week one and not a "must win". My voice is just now recovering.

[POJO_Risin]

I hesitate to even mention it, but for the 37th consecutive year, there are "T.J. Duckett to the Steelers" rumors out there....

Can he play the line...and trap?

[Va Beach VH Fan]

I dunno...

The running game will be better, not all teams can stop the run like the Titans can....

I think they'll run better on Sunday in Chicago, especially with Erlacher and Pisochoociemanga out of the lineup....

But against the better teams against the run, like Baltimore twice, they'll struggle...

[POJO_Risin]

I concur for the most part...but do feel that Willie Parker resembles the wicked witch of the west...melting with every touch.

It could have been Tennessee and week 1 and the line...and Roeth...whatever...

but Pittsburgh's run game better improve. They are catching Chicago at the right time for sure...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Adam Schefter on NFL Countdown says now that Parker tweeked his hamstring in pregame warmups vs. the Titans, but is good now...

Fuck that, I'm still benching him, and hope he burns me for it... ;)

[POJO_Risin]

That's why I avoid Steelers on my team like the plague...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

They go on the road to Chicago where it should go well, but you now how I feel about trap games on the road, and this one falls directly into that category...

You know, I should really start getting paid for this shit.....

Horrible fucking effort, HORRIBLE....

[POJO_Risin]

Here comes the Bungles...

It's interesting how many in the Pittsburgh media were picking the Bears in an "upset" last week.

I can't remember the last time I saw the writers blogging about the Steelers losing...quite like last week...

Not so much this week though...

[hideyoursheep]

Fuck you guys! Odom eats Roethlisberger alive today!! :biggrin:

Bengals lose by 3.

again.:rolleyes:

I have no faith Cincy can put anything together for an entire season, but there's a chance they pull this one out. I said a chance. I may even watch the game this time-if I can stomach all the false starts and holding penalties. :mad:

[POJO_Risin]

Bengals lose by 3?

[hideyoursheep]

Bengals lose by 3?

It was a prediction, and I'm glad I was wrong.:biggrin:

Cincy did more to lose the game the first 3 quarters than Pittsburgh did the entire game.
Yeah, they win today, but man, they need work.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Ya know, I'm glad I don't get pissed over this bullshit anymore.... ;) (That is kinda true, 10 years ago, my TV would be busted right now)

But it's unbelievable that the Steelers, for the second week in a row, would lay back and let the opposition dink and dunk them all the way down the field to lose...

I hope Sweed has properly kissed the #3 receiver good bye.... Nice sight to see Wallace have a great game like that....

Reed misses another one, albeit over a 50-yarder....

The offense goes totally conservative for the last part of the game, and Cincy knows it, puts 8 in the box, and stops them....

And Poj, I'm glad you finally agree with me re: Taylor....

There, I feel better...

[hideyoursheep]

You guys have fun.....I might be back Nov. 15th, but I doubt it. They're still the Bengals.

[ODShowtime]

wow what a bunch of horse shit that was. So much for a pass rush. I don't think there will be much shit talking or picture posting from me for awhile. If the Steelers keep finishing games like this, it will be a short season.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

That's just it...

No blitzes, no sacks, no INT's, no fumbles, CB's 15 yards away from the receivers....

2006 season all over again.... It's the "Hey, we're Superbowl champs again" syndrome.....

[damngoodtimes]

2006 season all over again.... It's the "Hey, we're Superbowl champs again" syndrome.....


I wish my team had that syndrome......

please.....

[Mr Walker]

I don't like the looks of this...
Big Ben is scheduled to appear on Monday Night Raw next week as a guest host.

[Mr Walker]

... and he's bringing his o-line with him.

Shouldn't they be focused on getting out of a 1-2 hole (maybe 1-3 after the Chargers visit on Sunday Night)?
Can't believe Tomlin is OK with this... especially with the Ravens playing like Hulk Hogan and the Steelers playing like Frankie Williams.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Couldn't agree more, I don't like it at all....

[POJO_Risin]

And Poj, I'm glad you finally agree with me re: Taylor....

You're joking right...

[POJO_Risin]

Mendenhall and Sweed...nimrods...

Their lucky they have Tomlin, and not Noll...Noll may have killed them this weekend...

fucking Mendenhall gets fucking benched after his best game...because he's a fucking dipshit...had a bad practice...and bombed his pre-game written test on his assignments...

and Sweed...

Game...

Set...

Match...

DUDE...SWEET...

[POJO_Risin]

Did someone just say Carey Davis?

[Va Beach VH Fan]

You're joking right...

Did you or did you not say in the FF thread that Taylor was the most overrated corner in the league ???

[POJO_Risin]

Yeah...more or less the same thing I've been saying forever...and ever...and ever...and ever...and ever...

minus a super bowl interception here and there...

Took a massive amount of heat for it on all the blogs for it...

The ONLY corner I've liked in Pittsburgh over the past several years is Bryant McFadden...even wrote a piece on it last year...

[POJO_Risin]

We've always agreed on that point...

You senile bastard...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

You senile bastard...

Point well taken.... ;)

[POJO_Risin]

Wait a second...did I just read that Roethlisberger was going to be on a wrestling event as a fucking "guest host?"

...and with his offensive line?

So...here must be the premise...

Roeth walks into the ring...with his lineman protecting him from the wrestlers.

Seriously...you all know where I'm heading with this right...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Seriously...you all know where I'm heading with this right...

The Undertaker goes past Max Starks with an armbar and pulls a Tebow on Roeth....

Something like that ??

[POJO_Risin]

The Undertaker goes past Max Starks with an armbar and pulls a Tebow on Roeth....

Something like that ??

ding...ding...ding...ding...ding...

WINNER!

[POJO_Risin]

Looks like Parker is out...and Mendenhall and Moore are in. I wonder if Moore is going to start after Mendenhall didn't play last week because of lack of preparation...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Yeah, really fucks my FF team... I may have to start both TE's because I have 2 WR's on bye weeks...

Unless they make Parker inactive on the website, that is....

[POJO_Risin]

You know Tomlin...he'll wait to make the official call, and on a Sunday Night game...not good for you...

but who knows...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

They're only putting him as doubtful right now, the fuckers...

[hideyoursheep]

Just making my rounds..

<a href="http://photobucket.com/images/who&#37;20dey" target="_blank"><img src="http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u6/mistirbroughton/bengals.jpg" border="0" alt="Who Dey!!! Pictures, Images and Photos"/></a>

[Va Beach VH Fan]

I seem to recall the last time the Bengals started to talk shit....

[hideyoursheep]

I seem to recall the last time the Bengals started to talk shit....


2 weeks ago, I believe..;)

C'mon, man...it's been tough. The past 3 games have been good...let me gloat.:biggrin:

[Va Beach VH Fan]

2 weeks ago, I believe..;)

C'mon, man...it's been tough. The past 3 games have been good...let me gloat.:biggrin:

Sure, have at it, while you can....

[ODShowtime]

Just making my rounds..

I don't fault you for being a bengals fan or for friendly schmack talk. But the who dey chant is the gayest slogan in the history of gayness. It's also ebonics at the same time, which is a weird combo. Also, Bill Cowher owns that chant as he told the team in no uncertain terms that the Steelers were in fact "we dey" after their win in the Queen City in the playoffs in January 2006. This was recorded by NFL films for all to see. I usually can't swear and be homophobic at football blogs, but at the good ol' Army? Fuck it. It's a gay chant from a weak team.

That said the Bengals appear to be a solid team right now and I look forward to the rematch in Pittsburgh with apprehension. Bummer about Odom.

On to the Steelers in week 7 against Purple Jesus and the Favre-Fossil! I think if the Steelers play to their strength which is throwing the football, and exploit their depth at receiver against a squad that is potentially missing it's best CB, they should be able to put up enough points. I'd be much more confident with Aaron Smith anchoring the D-line, but that's the NFL. Injuries are a bitch and depth brings championships.

For the Steelers D, I used to be very comfortable watching them, but without Smith it will take awhile for me to trust his replacements. I hope Troy can get more burst than last week and I'd love to see Woodley and Harrison and Timmons knock Favre on his ass a couple times. He's a cagey old bastard though and will no doubt throw some balls away at the last second and probably connect on some screens and dump-offs that way.

[chefcraig]

I really can't believe that some people in Washington believe Bill Cowher will be the next head coach there. After working for the Rooney family (who tend to do things correctly most of the time), why would he work for Dan Snyder (a schmuck who has proven time and again to be incapable of ever doing the right thing)? http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-confused-smileys-327.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/Free-Mad-Smileys/)

[TAKIN WHISKEY]

I can't wait to watch the Vikings/Steelers this weekend. I think this game is going to tell a lot about both teams. It's tough for ANY team to go to the Burgh and pick up a win.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Well, a win is a win....

But of course, Steelers fans are never happy, even after Super Bowl wins....

So here I go.....

1. Another HORRIBLE game by the most overrated CB, not only in the NFL, but in NFL HISTORY (maybe a reach ?), you know who.... I also don't like it when you see Favray dink and dunk them to death and the CB's are STILL 10 yards away from the WR's.....

2. Not thrilled with the play calling in the second half.... Basically trying not to lose as opposed to trying to win....

3. Overall, defense did a good job on AP, he's just one helluva back....

4. Favray took what the defense gave him, and the CB's gave him just about everything he wanted....

[lesfunk]

Go Steelers! Good win.
Now here in CT, I'm basically a Pats fan because with my more casual Football interest, ( I'm a baseball fan more) following the Steelers is more difficult. I just can't get any steeler talk on the radio.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

I just can't get any steeler talk on the radio.


Ever heard of the Internet bro ??? ;)

[hideyoursheep]

It's on, now!

<a href="http://photobucket.com/images/who&#37;20dey" target="_blank"><img src="http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k55/ewalker27/Bengals.jpg" border="0" alt="Who Dey Pictures, Images and Photos"/></a>


This time, Kimo Von Rolloften can't save you.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Oh boy...

ESPN's Adam Shefter said on Countdown tonight that if Larry Johnson clears waivers, he'd love to sign with the Steelers.....

[POJO_Risin]

I think it would be a great signing for the rest of the year...

[chefcraig]

I think it would be a great signing for the rest of the year...

I dunno, man...even the Redskins (http://chiefsblog.kansascity.com/?q=node/1093) passed on Johnson. That should tell you something right there.

[POJO_Risin]

The Redskins and the Chiefs aren't the Steelers...

Think Corey Dillon, a massive malcontent, as well as Randy Moss...when they went to New England...

LJ is coming home. He went to State College in high school...Penn State in college...and wants to play for the team he grew up rooting...

and a team that wouldn't put up with his shit...because they don't need him.

Boy...what a 1/2 punch that could be...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

I read the dude on KDKA thinking the Steelers would pass on LJ because of their "plethora of running backs"....

Huh ??

[ODShowtime]

Larry Johnson is the best college back I've ever witnessed in my life. I saw him post like 300 yards in a snowy game against MSU back in the day.

He's a scumbag now though. Total disgrace to the Nittany Lions. Maybe he can redeem himself, although the Steelers are kinda stacked right now and don't put up with much BS.

BTW


FUCK the bengals

[TAKIN WHISKEY]

My guess is LJ signs with the Patriots.

[hideyoursheep]

FUCK the bengals

Heinz Ward voted dirtiest player in the NFL.

A Pissburgh wideout.


:lmao:

[hideyoursheep]

I'll be back....tomorrow.

Enjoy your 6.

This year you go nowhere.

[POJO_Risin]

Heinz Ward voted dirtiest player in the NFL.

A Pissburgh wideout.


:lmao:

That's just code for...

"I can't handle a wide receiver doing the same shit most defenders do."

...bunch of fucking pussies if you ask me...

[hideyoursheep]

I couldn't figure it out myself.

I mean, it isn't like he's Conrad Dobler, or Bill Romanowski.

[hideyoursheep]

...or Jack Tatum and George Atkinson.

[POJO_Risin]

In all honesty sheep...good luck. I can't stand the fucking Bungles, but the division is better when they step up, convicts or not.

[hideyoursheep]

You gotta get through Pittsburgh to get to the playoffs. If they can't do that, it's pointless. If they can, which they did, then they're on the right track.

I know it doesn't make you guys happy, but I've been waiting a looooong time for these fuckers to re-join the NFL. There won't be any Bengals threads, so you get me. :D

They'll probably wind up meeting in the playoffs.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

I give the Bengals props, one helluva defensive gameplan, they blew the fuckin' O-line off the line of scrimmage all day long....

Offensively, they knew where to throw, underneath against the horrifically overrated CB's....

[hideyoursheep]

It's been decades since the Bengals D has been good. The emphasis for them, under Mike Brown, has always been offense. They remind me of the Saints in the early 90's...winning games with defense, and just enough offense to get a W. They win a little like the old Brian Sipe-led Browns, too. I keep looking for Sam Rutigliano on the sidelines.

Okay, I'm outta here...no gloating from me...it's still a long season.

[POJO_Risin]

Gloat away...you just swept the Super Bowl champs...

[hideyoursheep]

Gloat away...you just swept the Super Bowl champs...

Allright...just one thing-




FUCK the bengals



YOU GOT FUCKED BY THE BENGALS



:lmao:


Felt good.

[TAKIN WHISKEY]

I didn't think Cincy could pull off a win at Heinz field. It just goes to show that this Bengals team is very much a contender. It is a long season and a lot can still happen. The AFC playoffs will be amazing this year. Colts, Patriots, Steelers, Bengals, Chargers and the sixth team up for grabs. The Colts just made it very difficult for the rest of the AFC because most likely they will play at home throughout the playoffs. No bad weather for them so there lack of running game won't be exploited.

[chefcraig]

I'm still in shock. Roethlisberger get's taken out of the game, and the Chiefs win in overtime. http://freesmileyface.net/smiley/Surprise/surprised-027.gif (http://freesmileyface.net/Free-Surprise-Smileys.html)

[POJO_Risin]

1. Seriously shitty play-calling. I don't mind a fucking pass-first offense...but this team gets so out of fucking kilter...that it's painful to watch sometimes...

2. Troy Polamalu out, and Clark missing time has really exposed the corners...add Lawrence Timmons missing significant time, and you have a giant hole underneath to expose...

3. Aaron Smith is the glue of the defense. You can play okay without him for a bit of time...but it will catch up to a line of old fuckers. Add Kirschke out, and you really are in trouble...

4. Roeth with another head wound...do you think the line is better?

5. I've heard several times that this team isn't going to fall into the trap of lax play after a super bowl...but that's exactly what I'm saying. They are either too tired, to content...or both.

6. Charlie Batch throws the football like a fucking powderpuff girl...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

I've mellowed out a lot in my old age when it comes to my teams...

Today's loss would've been a remote tossing incident back in the day....

I'm to the point nowadays where I don't mind the Steelers losing to decent teams at all, and yes, I put Cincy in that list now, at least this year....

But what furiates me is how year after year they play down to their opponent and either barely squeak it out or flat-out lose, like today....

That screams unpreparedness to me, whether that's being communicated by the coaching staff or the collective mindset of the players...

I know hindsight is 20/20, and Poj you know how I love predicting the "T" game, but I swear as soon as I saw that kickoff ran back, I yelled out "TRAP GAME" !!!

The only silver lining is that Cincy overlooked Oakland and lost also, I still don't think Cincy's lead is insurmountable....

[chefcraig]

The Steelers play the Ravens next week, in a crucial game. And they may be starting a third string QB who has thrown only one pass in his NFL career.



Steelers' Batch Out 6 Weeks; 'Big Ben' Hurt

PITTSBURGH -- Pittsburgh Steelers backup quarterback Charlie Batch has a wrist injury that requires surgery and will sideline him for six weeks, a source close to the team told Channel 11 News.

Batch's injury couldn’t have come at a worse time, as starting quarterback Ben Roethlisberger was injured and left Sunday's game against the Kansas City Chiefs with 12:21 remaining in overtime.

Big Ben took a knee to the helmet while being sacked.The Chiefs went on to win 27-24.

"He took a blow; needless to say, it was a concussion-oriented thing, so I doubt he was going to come back into the football game," head coach Mike Tomlin said. "I don't have a lot of information in terms of where he is or his level of availability. We will have more information as we proceed."

Roethlisberger had thrown for 398 yards and three TDs before he was relieved by Batch.

There is no word on Roethlisberger's status right now. After the game, he said he felt OK, but he's expected to undergo tests Monday to determine the extent of the injury.

Third-string quarterback Dennis Dixon, who the Steelers drafted in 2008, has only thrown one pass in his NFL career with the team.

It is unclear at this time what moves the Steelers will make in light of Batch's injury.

Steelers' Batch Out 6 Weeks; Roethlisberger Hurt - Sports News Story - WPXI Pittsburgh (http://www.wpxi.com/sports/21699168/detail.html)

[kwame k]

My Fantasy team is fucked! I have Big Ben, Hines Ward and Pitts D:pullinghair:

[hideyoursheep]

The only silver lining is that Cincy overlooked Oakland and lost also, I still don't think Cincy's lead is insurmountable....


They ALWAYS overlook someone..:rolleyes: I believe they dropped one against a shitty NE team led by Flutie during their SB XXIII run..


Polamalu= Madden curse.

[TAKIN WHISKEY]

I heard last night, Big Ben is fine. The Steelers better get over there hangover quick because the Ravens are like a wounded dog.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

I've been saying it for about 7 or 8 years now, and Poj can back me up on this....

I NEVER worry about the Steelers when they play decent/good opponents.... That doesn't mean they always win of course, but I know that if they do end up losing, it won't be because of a lack of focus or preparation, lackadaisical, etc....

It's when they face the inferior teams, and that's both at home and on the road.... The focus isn't there, the intensity isn't there, yadda, yadda....

They did it at Oakland a few years ago, at Arizona, at Denver and at the Jets a couple years ago (I predicted all 3 of those), at Chicago and at KC this year, and there are others.....

So IMO, if they end up getting a wild card again this year, just like in '05, I have no problem at all with them going on the road against GOOD teams.... They have better than average chances of beating anyone in the AFC on the road, although if they don't get their shit in gear, that won't happen...

[POJO_Risin]

Dennis Fucking Dixon...

Game's not over yet, but if the Steelers win, this could be the play of the year...

[POJO_Risin]

Not missing tackles like that...fuck...

[POJO_Risin]

Ike Taylor fucking blows...That's the fucking game right there...

[POJO_Risin]

Honest to christ...do the fucking cornerbacks realize that a field goal loses the game? They are playing 15 yards off the fucking receivers...

SACK!!!!

Holy shit...that's going to be good...no...NO...

Short!!!!

Seriously...WTF...

James Farrior may have just saved the season with that sack...

Of course...here comes fucking overtime...

I'm most afraid of a kickoff...

[POJO_Risin]

Pittsburgh gets the ball...now if Logan can just return the fucking kickoff...I'd be okay with that...

You can tell Dixon is rattled a bit...

[POJO_Risin]

I'm fucking sick of the fucking comparisons to Roeth for Flacco...

Even when Roeth is off, he throws one of the most catchable balls in football. Flacco throws fucking bricks...

[POJO_Risin]

In all the games I've listened to with the blowhard Cris Collinsworth, this is the first game I've heard him sound even moderately credible. Of course, I listened to most of the game, just not turned it on...

PICKED OFF...NO!!!!!!

FUCK...

[POJO_Risin]

Need a turnover...or a miracle now...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Ike Taylor fucking blows...That's the fucking game right there...

Only been saying it for about four years now, bro....

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Pittsburgh gets the ball...now if Logan can just return the fucking kickoff...I'd be okay with that...

I'm really disappointed with Logan's performance, considering how he did in the preseason...

I know preseason special teams units are nothing like regular season units, but he hasn't really been close to breaking one all year long....

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Well, where to start....

Not saying anything else on the CB's, but I will say that the message boards have really jumped on the "overrated CB's" bandwagon....

But this so-called "vaunted" defense has some serious holes... Missed tackle after missed tackle... That 4th and 5 was unbelievable, not that they got the first down after Rice easily beat Farrior, but the missed tackles after that...

As for Dixon, yeah he had the bad INT in OT, but overall I think he played well enough to win... The Arians playcalling was beyond conservative, including at the end of the first half with fucking 1:40 left in the half and they run out the clock.... That's unreal....

Would I feel secure with Dixon as a permanent #2 QB ?? I dunno, the jury is still out...

The funny part is that the one game that Ben doesn't play, the O-line doesn't give up a sack, and against Baltimore of all teams !!

A part of me wants them to not make the playoffs, its deserving of how poor they've been playing.

Of course, the other part of me thinks all they need is to squeak in the back door, and then anything can happen....

[Fairwrning]

Im a bit surprised the Steelers players are throwing Ben under the bus for not playing last night..the guy had a concussion..complaining about headaches..he did the right thing..

[POJO_Risin]

For the first 8 weeks of the season my neighbor was singing

Pittsburgh's going to the Super Bowl I've got a feeling

Now I'm singing

Pittsburgh's not even going to the playoffs I got a feeling


What a way to defend a title. :hee:

Key term in that phrase?

a title...

Of course, losing to the fucking Browns...the worst team in fucking football...no fucking excuse...even if all your players are dead...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Shocked, humiliated, embarrassed....

That is all...

[kwame k]

For the first 8 weeks of the season my neighbor was singing

Pittsburgh's going to the Super Bowl I've got a feeling

Now I'm singing

Pittsburgh's not even going to the playoffs I got a feeling


What a way to defend a title. :hee:

I had Big Ben, Ward and Pitts D in my fantasy league.......:pullinghair: needless to say, I'm done for the year!

[DlocRoth]

Shocked, humiliated, embarrassed....

That is all...

Seriously...what the FUCK happened?:barf:

[POJO_Risin]

It was like watching a team die out there. Watching the pathetic fucking Browns, who were essentially a one-man offensive band. Seriously...Brady Quinn is fucking terrible. They should have run the wildcat with cribbs all night...

Rob Ryan is going to save Mandouchebag his job...or take it...

[POJO_Risin]

But the fucking Steelers...to lose...I don't care if Kenyaron Fox is their best player on D at this point...he's better than that shitstain of a team...

just

fucking

embarrassing...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Thought I'd mix in some laughter to the Bucs along with the anger towards the Steelers...

Bucs non-tendered Matt Capps last night...

Teams had been asking about trading for him during the winter meetings, but the front office turned them all down....

But instead of getting at least a decent mid-level prospect, these stupid fuckers out-right non-tender him, now's he's a fucking free agent...

I'd always thought Capps was overrated to begin with, ya know a 95 MPH fastball isn't really what you'd call overpowering nowadays....

But at least they could've gotten SOMETHING for him....

[POJO_Risin]

Steelers getting set for a coaching overhaul...

I'm assuming they are going to nail Ligashesky to a fence post, and I would have to think your boy, Va, Zierlein is going to need to find a new job next year as well.

Perhaps Arians?

[Va Beach VH Fan]

My boy Zierlein ? Randy Fichtner is "my boy", the WR coach.... I think he's safe....

I agree though on Ligs and yes, I think Arians won't last....

The big thing is whether LeBeau will hang around or whether he'll hang them up.... He might just go this time...

[POJO_Risin]

I wouldn't go out that way, if I were him. But perhaps with a line that's injured daily, a suspect set of corners that are being molested each game because Troy isn't there, and safety's that play with Lebeau-like wreckless abandon, and likely will never be healthy for more than 10 games a year ever again...

Maybe he won't be back.

Of course...maybe he wants the challenge.

It's not as bad as it appears...and health can fix a lot...but age can unfix a lot as well...and they aren't going to be getting any younger...

and that line isn't going to be getting any better...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Incredibly, I was looking at draft sites today....

Thing is, if I'm the GM, I'm not exactly sure what is more pressing with the #1 pick....

OT ??
OG ??
CB ??
S ??
DE ??

Fuckin' flip a coin....

On a side note, we're driving to PA on Sun the 27th... Already got tix to the 7:30 Pens/Leafs game at the Igloo, and now I'm watching the dozens of pairs of Steelers tix go on Ebay for the Ravens game at 1PM.... Haven't decided whether I want to go or not, even if they're out of it, that will be a slugfest...

[chefcraig]

Given the at times dubious quality of play in the AFC in 2009, are you guys certain that Pittsburgh (at 6-7) is really out of it at this point?

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Actually, with a little help, they could be still in it.... They got a little help today....

But of course, that's assuming that they can beat Green Bay, Baltimore and at Miami....

[Fairwrning]

Actually, with a little help, they could be still in it....

And Santa will be coming down the chimney soon...;)

insert your Dallas last playoff win remark here.......................................

[Va Beach VH Fan]

You're fucking right... No playoff wins since the Clinton administration...

I see they blew another December game today....

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Grabbed some relatively cheap tix to the Ravens/Steelers game on the 27th, now that I know it's definitely going to be at 1PM....

Then, head on dahntahn over to the Igloo, where we'll watch Maple Leafs/Penguins at 7:30...

Now THAT'S a good Sunday, my friends....

[Fairwrning]

please explain to me why you onside kick with a 2 pt lead:confused11::confused11::confused11:

[Fairwrning]

That last TD by Rogers is gonna cost me my money league game..I really dislike the Steelers

[Fairwrning]

wow...nice drive by Pitt..but they still suck

[Va Beach VH Fan]

please explain to me why you onside kick with a 2 pt lead:confused11::confused11::confused11:

What an incredibly stupid move, Tomlin needs to go over to Ben and kiss his ass....

Incredible finish.... Just makes our trip to Pittsburgh for next week's game vs. the Ravens that much better....

They got some help today too... Miami lost, Jets lost.... Six teams at 7-7 now, with the Steelers hosting the 8-6 Ravens next week, then finish at Miami....

It's not over yet....

[High Life Man]

Fuuuuuuuck!

[POJO_Risin]

The Steelers would be an interesting wildcard pick in this little dance called the playoffs...if they can win out and sneak in.

And it's likely TroyP would be back...

It's a long way off...but would be interesting...

As for disliking the Steelers wrning...why...oh why...hate on the real America's team so...

;)

Denver plays Philly next week...at Philly....need Philly to really play...then closes with KC...

If Pittsburgh wins out...and Philly beats Denver next week...

But banking on a Steelers win is like putting your money on a Cowboys playoff victory...

[Fairwrning]

They got some help today too... Miami lost, Jets lost.... Six teams at 7-7 now, with the Steelers hosting the 8-6 Ravens next week, then finish at Miami....

It's not over yet....

just keep dreamin brother;)

[Fairwrning]

But banking on a Steelers win is like putting your money on a Cowboys playoff victory...
BAZZIINNGG...that could be the cheap shot of the year:biggrin:

[POJO_Risin]

hehehehe...

I just noticed you were viewing the thread...

;)

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Steelers continuing to get the help they need....

San Diego beating the Titans up pretty bad tonight, in Tennessee....

That would give the Titans eight losses, pretty much knocks them out.....

We'll be in the lower bowl on Sunday, as you look at the big scoreboard at the endzone, we'll be just to the left of it....

[POJO_Risin]

Now if we could just start getting teams we don't have the tiebreaker with out of this thing...

Meaning...Jax, Jets, Baltimore and Denver...

Jax, JEts and Denver need one loss for the Steelers to vault them...and the fucking Ravens need to lose out...

assuming, of course, that the Steelers win out...which is why I didn't mention Miami...