Does the public really want a Van Hagar reunion?

[Sarge]

Does the public really want a Van Hagar reunion?

I am trying not to be biased but I can only see this as being 1/2 as sucessful as if Roth was fronting the band.
I don't know of anyone that is fuckin' going beserk racking their brains hoping Sammy returns to the band.

Is it just me?
Sammy is done. He is not a Rock-Star..He is a boring old man. He proved that on the Roth/Hagar tour

Thoughts?

[Dave's PA Rental]

Here's the thing...

I think that the public wants some new Eddie...

And they will accept Sammy singing more than another Gary album.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Daves PA rental
Here's the thing...

I think that the public wants some new Eddie...

And they will accept Sammy singing more than another Gary album.

I think you're right about the Eddie thing, but after you've seen Ed with Dave, NOTHING else is as good. :gulp:

[knuckleboner]

Originally posted by Daves PA rental
Here's the thing...

I think that the public wants some new Eddie...

And they will accept Sammy singing more than another Gary album.

totally agree.

there will be at least 1 million copies sold of this record, with a mildly successful tour. it will get some airplay on the radio. and people will generally call it a success, primarily, because it will be a commercial improvement over VHIII.

but, just like "balance," anything off the new album will quickly fall off the radio airwaves after it's been out for a little while. (and which of the original 6 albums don't get any radio airplay anymore...?)

it will be seen as a good rock and roll band. but they won't be THE thing to see. the buzz over the 1st KISS in back-in-makeup-farewell tour wasn't enough to send linkin park, limp bizkit, etc. fans into the areans. but it was big enough. same with the eagles. van hagar will have a buzz, but smaller than either of these 2.


mind you, not that i think a van hagar reunion is certain at this point in time. (it's not false hope; i just don't believe ANYTHING about van halen these days until i see it...)

[Dave's PA Rental]

Knuckleboner...everything you said makes total sense.

Here's another thing...

Eddie has been cooped up for what, SIX fucking years? He's obviously drinking again (which I think is his muse)...he hears and reads all the crap that people say about Van Hagar, how its pussy music...

Eddie holds a grudge, and he may try and prove something with this.

Same goes for Sammy.

If this happens, it might be good.

you can flame me now.

[Bob_R]

To answer the thread question.

NO!!!!

The public doesn't want a Van Hagar reunion! The majority of VH fans are Roth era fans. No matter what the majority of scumbags at VHLinks think. Van Hagar will sell because people just want to hear and see EVH.

The best thing that could happen is that Hagar gets hit by a truck and the truck backs up and runs him over a 2nd time.

[Chris]

The music will do the talking.

But most people I know want to see Dave return.

[Roth & Roll]

Originally posted by Daves PA rental
Here's the thing...

I think that the public wants some new Eddie...

And they will accept Sammy singing more than another Gary album.

Most people under the age of 25 years old don't even know who Eddie Van Halen is anymore. They won't even care. 8 years without a hit is a lifetime in the music industry. This is huge considering that the majority of peole who spend money on CD's and tapes are between 16-30 years old. The only thing that would have produced enough excitement and hype to revive interest would have been a REAL VH reunion - Dave, Eddie, Alex and Mikey.

Instead, we get this -

[Dr. Love]

My prediction:

It'll be commercially successful, and everyone in here will be bitching that it'd be about 1,000 times better with Dave (I think only 10 times is more realistic) and how commercial success doesn't mean ANYTHING (I tend to disagree) and that any moment now it's all going to fall apart because no one wants to hear it (except all the people buying it and going to the shows).

Personally, I don't care if Sammy or Dave is back. I'll just be glad to have some fucking closure after so god damn long.

[John Ashcroft]

Nope. Album will sell a bit due to dudes like us who want to hear the band. Once we're disappointed (again), we'll shrug the accompanying tour, resulting in poor ticket sales (because the like mentioned above, the current batch of teen-agers don't have a clue about Van Halen). And it will be the last we hear of VH. Either Eddie will die from some sort of self-induced illness, or they'll just fade into obscurity. Oh, and it will fucking suck!

[MAX]

Originally posted by EVH FANATIC
No matter what the majority of scumbags at VHLinks think. Van Hagar will sell because people just want to hear and see EVH.

I'm with you regarding the old lush. I still don't think this will be HUGE by any means. Think about it? All they are apparently doing is a fucking second "Greatest Hits" record and hitting the summer tour market. Seriously, how much Van Gaygar do you EVER hear on the radio? NAAAADA!!!! The most unfortunate thing regarding this whole debacle is that you KNOW the round rocker is going to be bastardizing Roth tunes throughout the summer tour circuit.

It's a fucking nostalgic, greatest hits tour with a fat sixty year old replacement singer. Also, take into consideration that Ed, Alex and MA ain't what they used to be. Do you think people are going to be blown away watching a fatassed clown and a fucking drummer wearing a neckbrace? Let's be realistic. Cos we all know :donkey: !!!!

Also bro, I know it's your Birthday and all but there are many killer people that are friends over at the links. Don't let all of the newbie retards get to you. You KNOW that I'm with you regarding some of them!!! I'd like to hit that fucking toolbox :cheese: "greenpaw" :monekyr: in the face with a shovel and then piss on his facel!!!

What I find the most disturbing are all of the new fucks registering, talking out of their collective asses and acting like VH never existed prior to Hagar's arrival. It's fucking weird! I really had no idea that there were people that were Hagar only? I guess this rumor gave them the courage to come out from under whatever rock they've been shamelessly hiding since Spam was shit-canned in '96.

[Bob_R]

Originally posted by MAX
I'm with you regarding the old lush. I still don't think this will be HUGE by any means. Think about it? All they are apparently doing is a fucking second "Greatest Hits" record and hitting the summer tour market. Seriously, how much Van Gaygar do you EVER hear on the radio? NAAAADA!!!! The most unfortunate thing regarding this whole debacle is that you KNOW the round rocker is going to be bastardizing Roth tunes throughout the summer tour circuit.

It's a fucking nostalgic, greatest hits tour with a fat sixty year old replacement singer. Also, take into consideration that Ed, Alex and MA ain't what they used to be. Do you think people are going to be blown away watching a fatassed clown and a fucking drummer wearing a neckbrace? Let's be realistic. Cos we all know :donkey: !!!!

Also bro, I know it's your Birthday and all but there are many killer people that are friends over at the links. Don't let all of the newbie retards get to you. You KNOW that I'm with you regarding some of them!!! I'd like to hit that fucking toolbox :cheese: "greenpaw" :monekyr: in the face with a shovel and then piss on his facel!!!

What I find the most disturbing are all of the new fucks registering, talking out of their collective asses and acting like VH never existed prior to Hagar's arrival. It's fucking weird! I really had no idea that there were people that were Hagar only? I guess this rumor gave them the courage to come out from under whatever rock they've been shamelessly hiding since Spam was shit-canned in '96.

Yeah I know bro that's why I said majority of scumbags. There are some killer dudes there without a doubt. Most of the scumbags are newbies.

[MAX]

Were you ever able to read your Birthday thread over there? Fuck, I was lucky to logon all fucking day. Did you like the "Mama Cass" dig towards Spam? I doubt any of them picked up on it. Did you get it? You're old enough! LOL.

Other than that, did you have a killer day bro?

[Switch84]

Originally posted by Chris


most people I know want to see Dave return.




:killer: And I'm one of them. It's Dave or NADA!!!

[FORD]

Van Hagar's commerical success was mostly due to the Top 40 cheese ballad hit singles that made up half of each record. Those kind of crappy songs were chart hits in the late 80's, but these days, you can't crack the charts with anybody actually playing an instrument at all, even if it is a syntheizer. Unless Eddie records all his shit on to vinyl, hires a DJ to spin it and scratch it, and has "MC Chedda Muthafucka" rapping over it, the shit ain't gonna sell in 2004.

[Lou]

I think the public just wants Ed back on stage and doesn't care that Hagar is singing. The public are idiots though.

[Dave IS VH]

Some people want the Van Hagar reunion, but if you talk to any real hardcore, hard rock fan, they want a VH reunion with Dave.

Only reason a Van Hagar reunion might be successful is people buying tickets to see Eddie, since he hasn't toured for close to 5 years.

Eddie would look and sound a lot better with Dave at helm.

[Panamark]

Van Hagar was never that big a deal in Australia when they were last
together. Also the Ga y Cherone show didnt even come close to selling out the small venues they played. I cant see whats different this time around ?

The only interest I have had in Van Halen over the last few years was the possibiliy of the original Band reforming. Im not vaguely interested in Van Hagar, other than to put my mind at rest that the real deal is over.

[Dave IS VH]

VH3 was a complete flop!!!!

Infect, they had to cancel the tour because they won't selling enough tickets to keep the tour going.

Even if there is a Van Hagar reunion it won't last.

You never know with Van Halen it could be Dave reuniting with the band in a few years.

[hitch1969©]

I didnt even read any of this negativity.

Sarge™ you should know better. VAN HAGAR® ROCKS!!!

hitch1969© told you so.

enough fucking said.

VIVAVANHAGAR315!!

=h69=

[Eyes of the Night]

Originally posted by FORD
Unless Eddie records all his shit on to vinyl, hires a DJ to spin it and scratch it, and has "MC Chedda Muthafucka" rapping over it, the shit ain't gonna sell in 2004.


Now that my friend was a classic! :33:






:gulp:






Eddie!!! Eddie!!! Eddie!!!

[DavidLeeNatra]

as sam said it himself...his VAN HA(GAR)LEN royalities are history...and so is VAN HAGAR...it had it's time in the mid and late 80's and was going downhill in the 90's... the mighty =VH= ended as an opening act for a once dave wannabe...bon jovi...

kiss is a good example...do you think the "farewell-tour" would have been as close to it's success with just ace or peter and another replacement musician? now as they are on the road it may work but in the beginning people wanted to see the original thing happening...

ed is trapped...he ruined anything for the future by giving us a moment of hope for the REAL thing in 1996 at the VMA's...so will van hagar be successfull? not much...because if you watch them go on stage you will see the standing ovation on the VMA's and you will know that something is missing...something? everything...

[Bob_R]

Originally posted by MAX
Were you ever able to read your Birthday thread over there? Fuck, I was lucky to logon all fucking day. Did you like the "Mama Cass" dig towards Spam? I doubt any of them picked up on it. Did you get it? You're old enough! LOL.

Other than that, did you have a killer day bro?

Yes, I got to read it. Yes, I caught your drift. Yes, killer day :killer:
Thanks again bro!
:)

[Wayne L.]

I think the Van Halen/Sammy Hagar reunion tour will be succesful because you know what you're getting from this legendary rock band with generations of fans even though it's more like a Paul McCartney & Wings reunion than a Beatles reunion. I would like to see Eddie & Dave onstage one more time but saying Van Hagar is kind of ridiculous to me personally since VH has always been about Eddie Van Halen no matter who the frontman is whether that be Dave or Sammy or whoever.

[SilvioDante]

I could care less who fronts any band that Ed and Al are apart of. I think all you Sammy haters are missplacing your anger. It's the Van Halen's fault. The whole damn thing was their fault. They had the greatest front man in the history of rock, fired him, got another, fired him, got another, fired him also.

Sammy may be a hack, but don't take your anger out on him. Put it where is belongs. Let's all make this thing a screaming failure!! Fuck Ed for stealing the last 20 years from us!!!

And, I don't even think I would support a Dave fronted group at this point. That train has sailed!!

[DavidLeeNatra]

Originally posted by SilvioDante
Sammy may be a hack, but don't take your anger out on him. Put it where is belongs.

you're wrong here, dude...it also belongs to fatman osammy bin hagar, because there was a whole lot of mudslinging coming from him towards dave while our man was gentle with the halens back in 1985...and by the way...fuck sammy anyway...

[SilvioDante]

Oh yeah, I agree, fuck Sammy. I am just saying that he was speaking the party line then. Right or wrong, the majority of the blame for this whole mess belongs on the Halen brothers.

[ELVIS]

I don't think the public cares either way...

Van Hagar will be mildly successful on the casino circuit with the other classic rockers, but nothing more than that...

The original lineup would spark more interest in all age groups...

[ashstralia]

panamark hit it in 1. i'd rather see the EEAS band again than a dodgy vh3 or 4 with sam or another new singer. dave, ring steve billy and greg!!!!!!!! let's have a new cd!!!!!

[09-02-1984]

Here is a view of this thread from a new recruit’s perspective……………………

I only have money to spend on a Van Halen that includes Dave!

My £50 ($90) is still stored in a box ready to buy a concert ticket when Van Halen tour the UK with DLR singing.

I do not own any Van Halen albums without Roth.

I did not buy “Best Of” when it was released and neither when offered to me on the cheap. Instead I had to import from the US the promo 2 track CD’s of “ Magic” and “Can’t Get” so I could have the 2 new songs because the UK released single of “Magic” had another “tune” without Dave on it.

As regards Eddie Van Halen I liken him to the footballer (aka soccer player to you US guys!) Maradonna.

A genius who will be ranked amongst the greats in history but will mostly be remembered for the worst moment in his career.

Maradonna: Cheating 1st goal against England in the 1986 World Cup aka “Hand Of God”

Eddie: Not getting Dave back into the band full time when he had the chance in 1996

To end on a positive note with this comparison

Maradonna: Brilliant 2nd goal against England in the 1986 World Cup.

Eddie: Listens to what the world says in 2004/5 and gets Dave back in the band to do a World Tour in 2006.

[ELVIS]

Nice!

:elvis:

[09-02-1984]

Thanks Elvis !

I wanted to attach an image of the guys at the MTV awards next to my "Hand of God" image but I don't have one.



Can footage of the MTV awards appearance be viewed on the web?

If yes, what is the link to it?

If no, are there any jpegs anywhere?

:confused: :confused:

[ELVIS]

The Knockz might share that piece of history with us if we ask him pretty pleeze...

:elvis:

[Sammy Who??]

only the kids at Hagar Links want Sammy to return. Norton included.

[Catfish]

The only people who want these fuckers back together are overweight, middle aged women and sheep who will buy anything Eddie does.

[tjvhou812]

dave is the best front man ever period.
but sammy is one bad ass mofo and i cant wait to hear some new van halen

[BrownSound1]

I think my tagline says it all.

[POJO_Risin]

Biased...unbiased...it's all the same...

truth be told I think that the general public could give a shit If Jesus Christ fronts Van Halen...let alone Sam or Dave...

I think VH in 1996 sustains a huge following...

I think VH in 2000 sustains a huge following...

both with Dave...

I think VH with Dave or Sammy...sustain a few big shows...and fall back to an eclectic tour schedule that sells out most dates...but gets no notoriety whatsoever...

fact of the matter is that nobody cares anymore...when you cry wolf that many times...well...people stop giving a shit...

Now if we could just get that wolf to show up at 5150...

[BrownSound1]

Glad to see you got all of the jizz out of your computer, Pojo.

[Sarge]

Originally posted by POJO_Risin
Biased...unbiased...it's all the same...

I think VH with Dave or Sammy...sustain a few big shows...and fall back to an eclectic tour schedule that sells out most dates...but gets no notoriety whatsoever...


I think that is where they are at now!

[ELVIS]

They won't sell out shit...:rolleyes:

[flappo]

..fuck the knockz

[tjvhou812]

number one... the public cares.
number two.... the tour will be one of the biggest summer tours.
number three. half of the people on here who talk shit about sammy will be at the show.
and four the album will sell a hell of alot more copies than 1 million

[moose]

I really don't think that the people in North America want to see a Van Hagar reunion. Anybody I speak to all want to see Roth in the line-up, because they know that it will be the real deal. The only people who are going to see this cremation or buy the cd are going to be musicians who love EVH(still the greatest guitarist of all time, even though he is an asshole). I truly beleive that something good will come out of this, just look at the picture and you tell me if those guys look "Happy". Anyhow last night took my boys to their swimming lesson and my yougest(3yrs old) was asked what is you're favorite song and he broke out into the chorus of "Runnin with the Devil" and his instructor looked at him and ? him as to who the band was and he said"Van Halen Man" guys this is no BS. My eldest is just getting a VH poster framed(I bought this poster in 1980) to put up in his bedroom. So the music will always live on as long as we are here to keep the spirit alive.

Last night on VH 1 40 greatest celebrity feuds of all time:
#1 DLR VS VH and you know what Stone Cold said


"THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN THE SAME"
:killer:

[POJO_Risin]

1. SOME of the public cares...no doubt...

2. It probably will be one of the top summer tours...which speaks more to the shitty music...than to Hagar reuniting with the Chirellas...

3. I'm sure there are a ton of idiots who say Hagar sucks that will be at the show...

4. I'm curious to see what the sales are...I think they'll more than likely be over 1 million as well...again...see number 2 for why...

Look...Hagar reuniting with VH is anticlimactic at best...in my humble opinion...all four of them can goto hell...and I'm not looking forward to seeing, nor hearing this crap...

I have a feeling I'll be in the minority...publically...or otherwise...