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BigBadBrian
07-22-2005, 02:09 PM
Attacks on UK will continue, radical cleric says

By Gideon Long
Reuters
Friday, July 22, 2005; 10:57 AM



LONDON (Reuters) - Militant Islamists will continue to attack Britain until the government pulls its troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan, one of the country's most outspoken Islamic clerics said on Friday.

Speaking 15 days after bombers killed over 50 people in London and a day after a series of failed attacks on the city's transport network, Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed said the British capital should expect more violence.

"What happened yesterday confirmed that as long as the cause and the root problem is still there ... we will see the same effect we saw on July 7," Bakri said.

"If the cause is still there the effect will happen again and again," he said, adding he had no information about future attacks or contacts with people planning to carry out attacks.

Bakri, a Syrian-born cleric who has been vilified in Britain since 2001 when he praised the September 11 hijackers, said he did not believe the bombings and attempted attacks on London were carried out by British Muslims.

He condemned the killing of all innocent civilians but described attacks on British and U.S. troops in Muslim countries as "pro-life" and justified.

In an interview with Reuters, Bakri described Osama bin Laden, leader of the radical Islamist network al Qaeda, as "a sincere man who fights against evil forces."

Bakri said he would like Britain to become an Islamic state but feared he would be deported before his dream was realized.

"I would like to see the Islamic flag fly, not only over number 10 Downing Street, but over the whole world," he said.

MESSAGE OF PEACE ... MESSAGE OF WAR

A hate figure for the British tabloid press, the bearded and bespectacled Bakri said Islam contained "a message of peace for those who want to live with the Muslims in peace."

"But Islam is a message of war for those who declare war against Muslims," he said.

"I condemn any killing and any bombing against any innocent people in Britain or abroad, but I expect the British people to condemn the killing of Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan."

However, asked about Islamist attacks on British and U.S. troops and on Israelis, he said: "If violence is pro-life I don't condemn it."

Britain has around 1,100 troops in Afghanistan and 8,500 in Iraq. Prime Minister Tony Blair supported the United States in its respective invasions of both countries in 2001 and 2003.

Bakri, a 46-year-old father of six, was born in Syria and lived in Lebanon and Saudi Arabia. When the Saudi government expelled him in 1985 he came to London.

Nicknamed "The Tottenham Ayatollah" after the area of north London in which he lives, he has infuriated many Britons with his firebrand speeches and refusal to condemn suicide bombings.

He founded the British branch of Hizb ut-Tahrir, which describes itself as a non-violent political party dedicated to creating an Islamic caliphate centered on the Middle East.

But he split from the group in 1996 and set up al Muhajiroun, which won notoriety in 2001 for celebrating the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon which killed nearly 3,000 people.

Bakri has Syrian and Lebanese citizenship and says he thinks the British government might deport him to one of those two countries in the wake of this month's bombings.

"But I think that would be political suicide for the British government if they started to deport and imprison all extremists and radicals," he said.

"Because if, God forbid, something happened again, they would have nobody left to blame."

Link (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/22/AR2005072200709_pf.html)

bobgnote
07-22-2005, 05:24 PM
The Olympic award is a trigger-incident, with all 'FOUR'-relevant factors.

Isolated, symbolic attacks relating '7' and '9/11' will be in the offing, and it will get WORSE, if folks can't learn to quit scamming the Israel and Halliburton toward the Middle East, after alarming historic TRENDS:

1. The Mohammedan trend:
a. Christianity followed the Romans, to become unthinkably popular, since the Christain dogma is impossible, and Christians are a load of morons in a post-glamour phase of their idolatry, like the CVH scene, and the followers have refused to notice Jesus was Y'shua, a guy who spoke Aramaic as a function of earlier conquest of Israel and Judea in only ONE of the old configurations of Palestine. Y'shua burned out on all the hustles his gang had going, like DLR with CVH, only gayer. To leave the group, though, Y'shua hammered a bunch of money lenders, blew all his 'disciples' (actually a bunch of goddam hobos) and whatever WHORES he could buy, one named MARY MAGDALENE, as faintly distinguished from MARY, miraculous birth mommy.
b. Enough is goddam enough. When the Christians started getting over in Rome like they were going to unite all bogus faiths under the eagle, they got over, but they were disgusting, anti-cultuiral GRIFTERS, who take culture and lands, invade real gay, since the hetero claps were known and incurable, and if fags got HIV, they hid it.
c. The PRIMARY Middle-Eastern reaction to the Roman-Catholic imperialist nuisance is called ISLAM. It means the PEACE. Not like under hustling foot-fag Jesus, who is so nice his followers' feet smelled like his ass so he did the loincloth washy, some miracle if it included blowjob, and when he rousted the lenders to get the feast and whores, he was identified, so he told Judas to FINK. He told him to. So he did, and got all mental about it.
d. The SECONDARY Middle-Eastern reaction to Roman-Catholic nuisance is the Conquest of Mohammed, 400s. The 666 is likely re the 661+ fallout of Mohammed's main man with the Sunnis, who spun off from Shia, which follows the main vizier-guy. They FIGHT, and many know that American-tainted infidel influence is feeding this, by inducing reationary views, readical Islam, Intifada, BLOWINGS UP!

2. The CRUSADES and REFORMATION:
a. 1066, Harald couldn't withstand the second invasion that year, so the Norman Catholics got hard and Godfrey of Boullion lanced his way into Jerusalem by 1099, killing 40K in the city. He was rousted, Crusaders got into Jerusalem twice more in 200 years, but hey, everybody in Islam knew by then, that Christians SUCK. Jews weren't as much of a threat to Islam, except as smurfs assimilated, until 1000, when they generally dodged out of religious scholarship relative to expanding scientific studies, to great effect.
b. CRUSADES are for assholes. Assholes start fights, again and AGAIN.
c. Protestants got up under guys Like King Karl Gustav of Sverige, in the 1600s, did some Wars of Reformation, to back up Martin Luther, but these were ineffective in the long run, at checking the Catholics, AND, by the 19th Century, the British were shoving at the Ottomans.
d. Blocks are Catholics, Stones are Jews (Mad About You on TV goofs Sharon Stone's old marriage to Phil Bronstein of SF Chronicle), and worse than senseless calls itself PROTESTANT yet cannot speak.

3. The VICTORIAN ERA:
a. The Byronian Crusade was aimed at the Turkish Ottoman Empire, did a Greek revolution, pimped up Zionist settlers toward Palestine, during Disraeli, whose familey WAS Jewish, forced to convert COE. The first Zionists, all crazy to extablish a Jewish state in post-Islamic, Turkish-ruled Palestine, arrived in 1882, a year after Dizzy's death.
b. The Vic Era proved to Islam that PROTESTANTS were invaders, that the British were passionate attackers, moved by jingoist media.

4. WWI and League:
a. The British undermined Capt. TE Lawrence AND the forces with him, under Syrian Faisal Hussein, in 1917, with the Sykes-Picot Treaty, with France, showing the imperialist-allies to be every bit as nasty as the Turks, that PROTESTANT ENGLAND is EVERY BIT AS TREACHEROUS, as CATHOLIC FRANCE, so that by the end of WWI, enabled by the Allenby blitz up Palestine to Damascus, the British-French occupation was already doomed.
b. The British bombed Baghdad and Damascus and Allahknowswhat, 1926, whacking many thousands of innocents, inspiring Krystalnacht, in 1936, a directly provoked massacre, which preceded holocaust, and the blitzkrieg, which mimicked Allenby's campaign up Palestine.
c. The Brits were gone by 1932, having undermined Faisal Hussein. Same deal today, for some Bedouins living with Israelis, maybe. The League was undermined by all this, and the US stayed out. This is WHY. Americans then were smart. WWII followed; wasn't that exciting!

5. WWII, the UN, and the USA:
a. The baby-blue UN thing with lots of US aid to Israel is a post-WWII thing, devised to sell Orthodox Jewish, fascist Israel, to Arabs and other Islamists with such a sense of fairness, they cannot understand why because of Y'shua or Jesus the hobo Americans cannot speak sense re Palestinian claims, that Israel is a damned invader!
b. Saddam Hussein was on $25 a week from the CIA in Cairo, late 50s, as a law student. He is American democracy, or was. So now it is Halliburton, after all, and the Iraq mission will run out of money and soldiers, well before the BRING IT ON Intifada is all brought.
c. When Bernie Goldstein shot up the mosque in 1994, the illegal settlers issue provoked suicide bombings. Oslo offered hope, but the Sharonists assasinated Rabin 11/3/95 and reinforced the illegals in 1995-6+, until AFTER 9/11/01, wouldn't you freaking know. The US and Israel are TLTL at relieving this, but this August, some Gaza Israelis have to move.
d. The deregulation of US energy providers has not escaped the observation of incited Islamist factions, including Al Queda, which could EASILY see the time to attack in concert of sporadic suicide attacks was Summer 2001, SINCE CALIFORNIA AND OTEHR INJURED STATES WERE THEN SUBJECTED TO FATAL ENERGY INFLATION, by their illegal, long-term deals. Hey, Gray Davis and other New York bitches showed OUR ASSES, AQ Queda attacked, and you want WHO to vote Democratic or Republican?

I say this, ISLAM means the peace, we have it or don't, we want it or we do not, I agree that we are subject to JIHAD, I hate to struggle, life is so short, but the INTIFADAs or uprisings are clearly provoked, repeatedly, and the term INFIDEL comes to mind, since I know the corporate Christians will not protest, Billy Graham (GW's pimp)planned trip to England with Nancy Reagan's doctor visit made the Olympic award the trigger, since the numbers all lined up, 7s, 9s, 11s.

HEZBOLLAH means the liberation. We actually want that. I mean it. That means the conflict is at an end. That is one reason why the Israelis would shoot up and bomb the USS Liberty, in the 1968 war. LIBERTY is a close relative of the word, HEZBOLLAH.

You can argue with the peace, but you cannot argue with fact. The factions are pissed-off at 2000 YEARS OF HISTORIC, JUDEO-CHRISTIAN NUISANCE, so Islam and Islamists are a simple system for reacting to the usual western civ super-sales pitches and INVASIONS, all BS. You cannot get a witness from a Christian, and a Jew, maybe you can afford to pay. Islamists MUST seek peace before punk representation, hence democracy from western trash is not impressive.

London just happens to be the place that is getting weaned off US tourist trade, and from the trend of Ministry ignorance and ambivalence to US nuisance, I cannot get an e-mail over there, but I sent this and other stuff to USDHS, then to UK persons, incl. Times.

The terror happens the way it happens because the US is filled with greedy sucks, heads up each others' asses, until they get pulled out in traffic for a tea-discussion, and can't you smell that smell, when American sports FANS, who don't play, really, try to suddenly think and talk! No wonder the bombers are going at it. The fans are ASSHOLES. The incited attackers are bottom-lining what kind of Americans they will tolerate, in the future, and they attack off the US and British indifference, to the 2001 funding implosion, intense as can be in California, passed around four years, dangerously, including as a usual incitement to TERROR ATTACKS, the latest, some bombs in London, England, whose residents better not stay US-style oblivious.

bobgnote
07-22-2005, 05:45 PM
The Olympic award is a trigger-incident, with all 'FOUR'-relevant factors.

Isolated, symbolic attacks relating '7' and '9/11' will be in the offing, and it will get WORSE, if folks can't learn to quit scamming the Israel and Halliburton toward the Middle East, after alarming historic TRENDS:

1. The Mohammedan trend:
a. Christianity followed the Romans, to become unthinkably popular, since the Christain dogma is impossible, and Christians are a load of morons in a post-glamour phase of their idolatry, like the CVH scene, and the followers have refused to notice Jesus was Y'shua, a guy who spoke Aramaic as a function of earlier conquest of Israel and Judea in only ONE of the old configurations of Palestine. Y'shua burned out on all the hustles his gang had going, like DLR with CVH, only gayer. To leave the group, though, Y'shua hammered a bunch of money lenders, blew all his 'disciples' (actually a bunch of goddam hobos) and whatever WHORES he could buy, one named MARY MAGDALENE, as faintly distinguished from MARY, miraculous birth mommy.
b. Enough is goddam enough. When the Christians started getting over in Rome like they were going to unite all bogus faiths under the eagle, they got over, but they were disgusting, anti-cultuiral GRIFTERS, who take culture and lands, invade real gay, since the hetero claps were known and incurable, and if fags got HIV, they hid it.
c. The PRIMARY Middle-Eastern reaction to the Roman-Catholic imperialist nuisance is called ISLAM. It means the PEACE. Not like under hustling foot-fag Jesus, who is so nice his followers' feet smelled like his ass so he did the loincloth washy, some miracle if it included blowjob, and when he rousted the lenders to get the feast and whores, he was identified, so he told Judas to FINK. He told him to. So he did, and got all mental about it.
d. The SECONDARY Middle-Eastern reaction to Roman-Catholic nuisance is the Conquest of Mohammed, 400s. The 666 is likely re the 661+ fallout of Mohammed's main man with the Sunnis, who spun off from Shia, which follows the main vizier-guy. They FIGHT, and many know that American-tainted infidel influence is feeding this, by inducing reationary views, readical Islam, Intifada, BLOWINGS UP!

2. The CRUSADES and REFORMATION:
a. 1066, Harald couldn't withstand the second invasion that year, so the Norman Catholics got hard and Godfrey of Boullion lanced his way into Jerusalem by 1099, killing 40K in the city. He was rousted, Crusaders got into Jerusalem twice more in 200 years, but hey, everybody in Islam knew by then, that Christians SUCK. Jews weren't as much of a threat to Islam, except as smurfs assimilated, until 1000, when they generally dodged out of religious scholarship relative to expanding scientific studies, to great effect.
b. CRUSADES are for assholes. Assholes start fights, again and AGAIN.
c. Protestants got up under guys Like King Karl Gustav of Sverige, in the 1600s, did some Wars of Reformation, to back up Martin Luther, but these were ineffective in the long run, at checking the Catholics, AND, by the 19th Century, the British were shoving at the Ottomans.
d. Blocks are Catholics, Stones are Jews (Mad About You on TV goofs Sharon Stone's old marriage to Phil Bronstein of SF Chronicle, with nods at Steve Young and others, see Paul Reiser, the company guy in ALIEN), and worse than senseless calls itself PROTESTANT yet cannot speak. Protestant is TOAST, after Billy Graham-cracker and Al Sharpton, but it was moldy and too old, by the 19th Century. Time for a new creed, off the smarmy hobo-glam of Christianity and the fake volunteerism of sellout, decadent, western Judaism.

3. The VICTORIAN ERA:
a. The Byronian Crusade was aimed at the Turkish Ottoman Empire, did a Greek revolution, pimped up Zionist settlers toward Palestine, during Disraeli, whose familey WAS Jewish, forced to convert COE. The first Zionists, all crazy to extablish a Jewish state in post-Islamic, Turkish-ruled Palestine, arrived in 1882, a year after Dizzy's death.
b. The Vic Era proved to Islam that PROTESTANTS were invaders, that the British were passionate attackers, moved by jingoist media.

4. WWI and League:
a. The British undermined Capt. TE Lawrence AND the forces with him, under Syrian Faisal Hussein, in 1917, with the Sykes-Picot Treaty, with France, showing the imperialist-allies to be every bit as nasty as the Turks, that PROTESTANT ENGLAND is EVERY BIT AS TREACHEROUS, as CATHOLIC FRANCE, so that by the end of WWI, enabled by the Allenby blitz up Palestine to Damascus, the British-French occupation was already doomed.
b. The British bombed Baghdad and Damascus and Allahknowswhat, 1926, whacking many thousands of innocents, inspiring Krystalnacht, in 1936, a directly provoked massacre, which preceded holocaust, and the blitzkrieg, which mimicked Allenby's campaign up Palestine.
c. The Brits were gone by 1932, having undermined Faisal Hussein. Same deal today, for some Bedouins living with Israelis, maybe. The League was undermined by all this, and the US stayed out. This is WHY. Americans then were smart. WWII followed; wasn't that exciting!

5. WWII, the UN, and the USA:
a. The baby-blue UN thing with lots of US aid to Israel is a post-WWII thing, devised to sell Orthodox Jewish, fascist Israel, to Arabs and other Islamists with such a sense of fairness, they cannot understand why because of Y'shua or Jesus the hobo Americans cannot speak sense re Palestinian claims, that Israel is a damned invader!
b. Saddam Hussein was on $25 a week from the CIA in Cairo, late 50s, as a law student. He is American democracy, or was. So now it is Halliburton, after all, and the Iraq mission will run out of money and soldiers, well before the BRING IT ON Intifada is all brought.
c. When Bernie Goldstein shot up the mosque in 1994, the illegal settlers issue provoked suicide bombings. Oslo offered hope, but the Sharonists assasinated Rabin 11/3/95 and reinforced the illegals in 1995-6+, until AFTER 9/11/01, wouldn't you freaking know. The US and Israel are TLTL at relieving this, but this August, some Gaza Israelis have to move.
d. The deregulation of US energy providers has not escaped the observation of incited Islamist factions, including Al Queda, which could EASILY see the time to attack in concert of sporadic suicide attacks was Summer 2001, SINCE CALIFORNIA AND OTEHR INJURED STATES WERE THEN SUBJECTED TO FATAL ENERGY INFLATION, by their illegal, long-term deals. Hey, Gray Davis and other New York bitches showed OUR ASSES, AQ Queda attacked, and you want WHO to vote Democratic or Republican?

I say this, ISLAM means the peace, we have it or don't, we want it or we do not, I agree that we are subject to JIHAD, I hate to struggle, life is so short, but the INTIFADAs or uprisings are clearly provoked, repeatedly, and the term INFIDEL comes to mind, since I know the corporate Christians will not protest, Billy Graham (GW's pimp)planned trip to England with Nancy Reagan's doctor visit made the Olympic award the trigger, since the numbers all lined up, 7s, 9s, 11s.

HEZBOLLAH means the liberation. We actually want that. I mean it. That means the conflict is at an end. That is one reason why the Israelis would shoot up and bomb the USS Liberty, in the 1968 war. LIBERTY is a close relative of the word, HEZBOLLAH.

You can argue with the peace, but you cannot argue with fact. The factions are pissed-off at 2000 YEARS OF HISTORIC, JUDEO-CHRISTIAN NUISANCE, so Islam and Islamists are a simple system for reacting to the usual western civ super-sales pitches and INVASIONS, all BS. You cannot get a witness from a Christian, and a Jew, maybe you can afford to pay. Islamists MUST seek peace before punk representation, hence democracy from western trash is not impressive.

London just happens to be the place that is getting weaned off US tourist trade, and from the trend of Ministry ignorance and ambivalence to US nuisance, I cannot get an e-mail over there, but I sent this and other stuff to USDHS, then to UK persons, incl. Times.

The terror happens the way it happens because the US is filled with greedy sucks, heads up each others' asses, until they get pulled out in traffic for a tea-discussion, and can't you smell that smell, when American sports FANS, who don't play, really, try to suddenly think and talk! No wonder the bombers are going at it. The fans are ASSHOLES. The incited attackers are bottom-lining what kind of Americans they will tolerate, in the future, and they attack off the US and British indifference, to the 2001 funding implosion, intense as can be in California, passed around four years, dangerously, including as a usual incitement to TERROR ATTACKS, the latest, some bombs in London, England, whose residents better not stay US-style oblivious.

ISLAM has the concept right, but they need a REFORM movement, which prevails at presenting a Libertarian ISLAM, to relieve how ISLAM has been unwisely and dangerously forced to morph reactively, to 1600 years of invasions, by inferior cults, from temporarily superior societies, relying on fleeting technology advantages, to invade the east, where wars and migrations have not made Islam more likely or even at all able, to bend to the hustles of decadent, western variety media. ISLAM will stay universal, having the superior creed, and if it morphs well to 21st century reforms, it may lead us out of JIHAD.

If ISLAMISTS cannot lead, or those who incite the terror attacks refuse to learn how we all participate in JIHAD, however we do that, we cannot see the same course. We must agree that we WANT peace. But with the usual western hustles, the brains needed to reform are not evidently active in the US and Britain, despite any over-rated, aging operating systems, like the ancient US Constitution, too old and too weak against artificial persons, too survive for much longer.

Hey, does XP need Norton Systemorks (works cleans up all kinds of loose crap left by litterbugging, virus-bait XP) and that San Diego Virus that gets 100% right, BOTH, to work? Sure does. The US Constitution is now too old and leaky to prevent Judeo-Christian trash in Century 21, from undermining the entire social infrastructure, of the old USA.

So learn to like the occasional bombs! You ignored deregulation and all its implications, so someone who USED to have holdings is letting you know, your house is GOING DOWN, whether you get out or not.