Should Science be taught at Church?

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  • steve
    Sniper
    • Feb 2004
    • 841

    Should Science be taught at Church?

    With proposals to teach Religion in Science class being propelled & christened from the docks of the White House, how about a counter proposal:

    Let's teach Science in Church.

    Every time a preacher recites a story of a miracle that defies the laws of gravity (Jesus walking on water, etc.), should he or she not ALSO state the opposing point of view...that of: "On the other hand, most scientists believe this did not in fact happen, etc..."?
  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10625

    #2
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    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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    • Nickdfresh
      SUPER MODERATOR

      • Oct 2004
      • 49203

      #3
      Originally posted by BigBadBrian
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      Yup, you're typical argument.

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      • Seshmeister
        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

        • Oct 2003
        • 35192

        #4
        Re: Should Science be taught at Church?

        Originally posted by steve
        With proposals to teach Religion in Science class being propelled & christened from the docks of the White House, how about a counter proposal:

        Let's teach Science in Church.

        Every time a preacher recites a story of a miracle that defies the laws of gravity (Jesus walking on water, etc.), should he or she not ALSO state the opposing point of view...that of: "On the other hand, most scientists believe this did not in fact happen, etc..."?
        Great post!

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        • thome
          ROTH ARMY ELITE
          • Mar 2005
          • 6678

          #5
          Anyone want this Bet , prove Evolution to me.

          Its as equally impossible as ANY religion.

          Science is the Study of life not the answer to it.

          Oh and by the way WHO CARES

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          • Jesus Christ
            Veteran
            • Jan 2004
            • 2428

            #6
            Many of your greatest scientists have had a deep faith in Me.

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            • thome
              ROTH ARMY ELITE
              • Mar 2005
              • 6678

              #7
              Originally posted by Jesus Christ
              Many of your greatest scientists have had a deep faith in Me.
              Jesus you show a inner peace i wish to learn about.

              Are there any books i can read about your ways of life?

              gota go see ya when i see ya

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              • Jesus Christ
                Veteran
                • Jan 2004
                • 2428

                #8
                Originally posted by thome
                Jesus you show a inner peace i wish to learn about.

                Are there any books i can read about your ways of life?

                gota go see ya when i see ya
                Umm... I assume ye hath heard of "The Bible"?

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                • Stephen Hawking
                  Roth Army Recruit
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 10

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jesus Christ
                  Many of your greatest scientists have had a deep faith in Me.
                  It is a bit more complicated than that, my pacifist friend.
                  "Thus it seems Einstein was doubly wrong when he said, God does not play dice. Not only does God definitely play dice, but He sometimes confuses us by throwing them where they can't be seen."

                  (Stephen Hawking's God
                  In his best-selling book "A Brief History of Time", physicist Stephen Hawking claimed that when physicists find the theory he and his colleagues are looking for - a so-called "theory of everything" - then they will have seen into "the mind of God". Hawking is by no means the only scientist who has associated God with the laws of physics. Nobel laureate Leon Lederman, for example, has made a link between God and a subatomic particle known as the Higgs boson. Lederman has suggested that when physicists find this particle in their accelerators it will be like looking into the face of God. But what kind of God are these physicists talking about?

                  Theoretical physicist and Nobel laureate Steven Weinberg suggests that in fact this is not much of a God at all. Weinberg notes that traditionally the word "God" has meant "an interested personality". But that is not what Hawking and Lederman mean. Their "god", he says, is really just "an abstract principle of order and harmony", a set of mathematical equations. Weinberg questions then why they use the word "god" at all. He makes the rather profound point that "if language is to be of any use to us, then we ought to try and preserve the meaning of words, and 'god' historically has not meant the laws of nature." The question of just what is "God" has taxed theologians for thousands of years; what Weinberg reminds us is to be wary of glib definitions.)

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                  • Jesus Christ
                    Veteran
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 2428

                    #10
                    See, this is exactly what I meaneth.

                    Scientists like My friend Stephen can tell you about how boson particles work, but verily they cannot tell you who made the boson particles.

                    And that's where Dad & I come in

                    There is nothing wrong with physics. Take that from the Great Physician

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                    • Seshmeister
                      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                      • Oct 2003
                      • 35192

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Jesus Christ
                      See, this is exactly what I meaneth.

                      Scientists like My friend Stephen can tell you about how boson particles work, but verily they cannot tell you who made the boson particles.

                      And that's where Dad & I come in
                      Ok but that's not where these fucking idiot creationists come in.

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                      • Seshmeister
                        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                        • Oct 2003
                        • 35192

                        #12
                        Originally posted by thome
                        Anyone want this Bet , prove Evolution to me.

                        Its as equally impossible as ANY religion.

                        Science is the Study of life not the answer to it.

                        Oh and by the way WHO CARES
                        Evolution can and has been proved.

                        As you say religion cannot because it relies on the supernatural which by it's nature means you just make shit up.

                        Prove that invisible fairies don't live at the bottom of everyones yard?

                        Same thing.

                        There is absolutely no evidence that little fairies live there.

                        It's when inevitably someone says I have faith in the fairies and I'm going to persecute you for not believing in them that the problems start...

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                        • BigBadBrian
                          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 10625

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Seshmeister
                          Evolution can and has been proved.

                          Has not.

                          “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                          • Seshmeister
                            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                            • Oct 2003
                            • 35192

                            #14
                            Has.

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                            • Nickdfresh
                              SUPER MODERATOR

                              • Oct 2004
                              • 49203

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Seshmeister
                              Ok but that's not where these fucking idiot creationists come in.
                              True dat. I believe in God (shock to some), but I think Creationism/Intelligent design is nothing but horseshit!

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