Mother of fallen SEAL says she still supports the war

[BigBadBrian]

Mother of fallen SEAL says she still supports the war
By SCOTT BROOKS
Union Leader Staff



Natalie Healy made a decision this summer after losing her son in war-torn Afghanistan.

"I can't go to those mountains and climb them and I can't shoot a gun," she said. "But I can do everything I can to make sure we stay the course, and if that means speaking out, then that's what I want to do."

Less than two months after the death of her son, Navy SEAL Senior Chief Petty Officer Daniel Healy, the Exeter mother and small business owner is following through on her word.


http://www.theunionleader.com/doclib/photos/2005/august/816seal.jpg
Natalie Healy of Exeter is shown with her son, Navy SEAL Senior Chief Petty Officer Daniel Healy, at his wedding. (COURTESY PHOTO)


Healy is making her feelings known in response to the nation's interest in a California mother who has camped outside President Bush's Texas ranch to protest the war in Iraq. Cindy Sheehan's 24-year-old son was killed in Iraq last year.

Healy said she initially sympathized with the grief-stricken mom. Now, however, as Sheehan's message continues to fill the airwaves, Healy said she fears a backlash against the war on terrorism.

"It's sort of like a tidal wave," Healy said. "And it's gaining and gaining and gaining. And I'm not sure what will stop it, to tell you the truth.

"My big concern is that the enemy will use Cindy Sheehan to their benefit. They will point to her and say, 'See? See how this American is calling the President a murderer? See how they're going to start weakening from within?'"

Healy said she was booked to speak on MSNBC's "Hardball" with Chris Matthews last night. The interview got bumped just a few hours before the show, she said.

But Healy said spreading her voice to support the war effort is her "new mission in life."

"I'm hoping, by having another mother who's lost a son speaking out loudly and strongly, that the troops will hear it and be heartened by it," she said. "Because we all know how they're always shocked when they get home and they find out what has been reported."

Several national polls show that a majority of Americans now consider the decision to invade Iraq a mistake. Healy herself said she initially had doubts about the war. She is now convinced the United States cannot leave Iraq just yet.

"The fact of the matter is, at this stage in the game, we're over there," she said. "We have to complete the mission."

Healy said she doubted Sheehan's son, Casey, would support his mother's mission.

Rather, she said, "I think my son would be happy that I was trying to remind people that we have to stay the course. We have to, without a doubt. And I know he'd be saying, 'OK, mom. Good. Good, mom.'"

Healy recognized the public's opinion of the Iraqi conflict is not the same as its opinion of the war in Afghanistan, where her son died June 28. Daniel Healy, a 36-year-old father of four, was one of 16 soldiers killed when insurgents shot down their helicopter.

But Healy said the two conflicts are part of the same war on terrorism, and it's a war the U.S. must continue to fight.

"I think fighting for freedom in Iraq and fighting for freedom in Afghanistan is one and the same," she said.

Healy is hopeful that the public will hear both sides in the debate over pulling U.S. troops from Iraq. It would be harmful, she said, if Sheehan's voice carried the day.

"I just don't want it to be the only story," Healy said. "I want the other voices to be heard so that the young men that fought with my son — that were broken-hearted from all their buddies getting killed — will know somebody else is speaking out for them. And maybe they won't be heard as much as Cindy Sheehan, but there's somebody trying, anyway."
LINK (http://www.theunionleader.com/articles_showa.html?article=59189)

[FORD]

"The fact of the matter is, at this stage in the game, we're over there," she said. "We have to complete the mission."

WHAT mission?? That's the question.

What is the mission? What is the noble cause? What is the fucking point, and if there is one, does it justify the cost?

And nobody has even attempted to answer those questions.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by FORD
"The fact of the matter is, at this stage in the game, we're over there," she said. "We have to complete the mission."

WHAT mission?? That's the question.



Come on.

Anyone can realize what the mission is at this point.

:gulp:

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Anyone can realize what the mission is at this point.
I can't.

Please enlighten me.

And IMMEDIATELY, because myself and many others have been asking you and Warham this question all week without an answer, you just dodge the most pertinent question while maybe 9 more American men die today for the "mission" you're going to tell us about today.

I'm tired of waiting any longer while you and Warham are dodging this question.

Okay, go ahead.

The floor is yours.


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[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Phil theStalker
I can't.

Please enlighten me.

And IMMEDIATELY, because myself and many others have been asking you and Warham this question all week without an answer, you just dodge the most pertinent question while maybe 9 more American men die today for the "mission" you're going to tell us about today.

I'm tired of waiting any longer while you and Warham are dodging this question.

Okay, go ahead.

The floor is yours.


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I'll give you a hint.

Let's cut and run.

How's that?

How would that be?

Fucking Stupid...that's how it would be.

Now guess our mission, Phil.

:gulp:

[FORD]

Global fascism?

[Warham]

Originally posted by FORD
Global fascism?

We aren't living in the 30's FORD. I think you're still stuck in a German time warp.

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
I'll give you a hint.

Let's cut and run.

How's that?

How would that be?

Fucking Stupid...that's how it would be.

Now guess our mission, Phil.

:gulp: Does the term "NARROW MINDED" come to mind with yourself?

I kind of figure you had this hugh narrow mind from all of your other posts. This post just proves it.

I - and many other - as you the pertinent question and you come back with a narrow minded answer like that.

Obviously, you need help focusing on the subject of the question so I'll rephrase the question for you:

"CUT AND RUN" from what "mission"?

So you don't want to "cut and run," but WHAT is the "mission" you are afraid of "cutting and running" from?

Can you answer this today, please?


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PS It's called in your Stupid American terms as "withdrawl" or "peace with honor" as in the U.S. "mission" in South Vietnam.

[Warham]

I see liberals like to attack those who have lost sons and daughters in Iraq and support the effort over there. How typical.

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by FORD
Global fascism?
Using only two (2) words FORD has answered part of the pertinent question with quantum accuracy on this hidden aspect of the "mission" or any "mission" the U.S. has undertaken since the end of WWII.

The answer is global fascism for all the earth's human population to be under (i.e., subject to, ruled by) "an intellectual elite and world bankers" as proclaimed by David Rockefeller (intellecual or insane?) in only 1991.

Did you ever hear of the Rockefeller families (or the Bauer, i.e., Rothschield - red shield - families) "anti-trust, monopoly" crime conspiracies?

People from Cleveland, Ohio all the way to California know about them. Now it's time for you the world to find out about them, and how they do business, before they "anti-trust, monopoly" the world to themselves.

The only hope you and your friends such as Warham and DrLove have is that people like myself and FORD won't let your ignorance of these things enslave us. That is your only hope.

Until then you are useless.

Here, you and Warham and that other guy, DrLove, just love to read quotes:

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected teh promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world-government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the National autodetermination practiced in past centuries."--David Rockefeller in an address to a Trilateral Commission meeting in June of 1991

Surely...


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[Warham]

Bankers are scary, right Phil?

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by Warham
I see liberals like to attack those who have lost sons and daughters in Iraq and support the effort over there. How typical.
Once again a warpig dodges the pertinent question all damn day, again.

Weren't you and BBB asked point blank "what's the mission" in Iraq, and all you two buddies can do is deflect the question with politically inflaming rhetoric.

Answer the question and stop dodging, please.

Y'know the world can read this message board and they can see you don't have a clue as to what the "mission" is.


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[knuckleboner]

come on now, BBB.

if this mom set up a camp outside michael moore's house, she'd get a lot more pub.

it's not the fact that she supports the war that keeps her relatively out of the spotlight.

it's that it's not nearly as much of a story as 30-some people in a tent city outside of the president's house.



i will disagree somewhat with her implicit assertion that the war in iraq is the war on terrorism. but that point's good only for debate. practically, it's moot. i completely agree that we have to stay in for now.

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by Warham
Bankers are scary, right Phil?
Fiat bankers, criminals, monopolizers of the natural resources of the earth (and beyond) and the wealth that belongs to "the people" for their hard labors, as American history studies prove a General and President of the United States once said, yes, fear the bankers.
i.e., George Washington's historical warning about "corporations and banks"


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[Warham]

Originally posted by Phil theStalker
Once again a warpig dodges the pertinent question all damn day, again.

Weren't you and BBB asked point blank "what's the mission" in Iraq, and all you two buddies can do is deflect the question with politically inflaming rhetoric.

Answer the question and stop dodging, please.

Y'know the world can read this message board and they can see you don't have a clue as to what the "mission" is.


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I'm not dodging anything, Phil.

You know how I'd answer that question, so why should I waste my fingers typing it out? Please!

Not to mention that particular topic has been brought up umpteen times on this forum already. Use the search feature if you want to know so bad.

[DLR'sCock]

You waste your time trying to convince people with their heads so far up their own asses.....



The weak will be controlled without even knowing....


Human nature is what it is, and domination, self superioity, and imposition of one's own will upon others is a common trait amongst those who are so disillusioned about their own existence and the existence of this world in which we inhabit as guests. This has happened before over and over and over, whether it be on a small scale or grand. Wisdom and understanding are earned, and it takes lifetimes over and over and over to get the slightest glimmer of a clue.

The cycle continues, and God watches and tries to tell you, but you can't hear, and always miss the point, unitl that one day when you get the point, or at least an idea....



But, so many feel that empitness inside, that fear, that sense of nothingness, of not feeling or knowing God, or knowing how, why, and where, it is ever there and eats away at you inside....


God is right there too, can't you see?
This is not what should occur, but we are better off than we were 5000 years ago....thousands of years of evolution, learning, and coming back, will help....

step by step the baby stands and walks towards it's father/mother...

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by knuckleboner
i completely agree that we have to stay in for now.
And the blood of the next dead U.S. soldier is on YOUR hands, knuckleboner.

Grow up, wake up, whatever it is that you have to take up before your "opinions" cause a civil war in America. When it comes it will be opinions like yours, and the chimp's orders from the "world-government," that bring it on.

Did you ever hear those words before, "bring it on"?

Stock up.

I also recommend you stock up on books. You people will have plenty of sitting around to do when there is no electricity and the national guard or "foreign assets" can't keep the road open from your major city airport to the rationing camps at Wal-Mart and staduims.

Read it and weep, you dirty global socialist/fascist useful idiot:
www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema?id=18167


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PS I have an opinion, too. Those are the facts. My opinion is that only a madman's administration would BELIEVE the global round table groups and order Marshal Law inside the U.S. when the U.S., world's greatest military, can't even keep open the highway in Baghdad from the airport to the Green Zone.

Only a madman would try that here in the U.S. after witnessing their elite forces clobbered daily by a bunch of ragtag desert peasants, and we have a madman like that in the White House right now.

The U.S. congress is on recess until September 6, and the President of this war and the successful defeat of the world's mightiest military defense (NORAD, USAF, etc.) on 9/11, especially the defeat of the highest defended air-space in the world over Washington, D.C., USA, is on vacation, too. Cheney is in charge. How does that make you feel?

Feeling lucky today, punk?

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by Warham
I'm not dodging anything, Phil.

You know how I'd answer that question, so why should I waste my fingers typing it out? Please!

Not to mention that particular topic has been brought up umpteen times on this forum already. Use the search feature if you want to know so bad.
Dodged again.

No, I don't know how you'd answer that question and nobody here has ever answered that question with facts instead of opinions.

Why do you think I'd keep asking you if I knew your answer?

Please, stop avoiding the inevitable and answer the question.


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[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by knuckleboner
come on now, BBB.

if this mom set up a camp outside michael moore's house, she'd get a lot more pub.

it's not the fact that she supports the war that keeps her relatively out of the spotlight.

it's that it's not nearly as much of a story as 30-some people in a tent city outside of the president's house.

True enough. When he goes back to DC, this story will go away.


i will disagree somewhat with her implicit assertion that the war in iraq is the war on terrorism. but that point's good only for debate. practically, it's moot. i completely agree that we have to stay in for now.

Exactly. Like the war or not, agree with the points for going in or not, it's a fight we have to finish. That's something that the others here on your side haven't realized. If we don't finish the job now, I can guarantee you we'll be sending troops back in later to straighten out a worse mess. Possibly one after a major civil war or Syrian or Iranian occupation. There Phil, there is your answer. ;)

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[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by Warham
We aren't living in the 30's FORD. I think you're still stuck in a German time warp.
I think you don't know the definition of fascism.

The definition of fascism or communism or capitalism/free market does not have a past, present, or future element in it.

It's what it is.

Y'know, you're not even sharpening my knives for the big boy global fascist orders I will have to fight against initially here in Ohio from the likes of Bob Taft, current Governor of the state of Ohio, and as of a day ago yesterday in an Ohio court of law, a full blown criminal with a record he made while in office.
http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050819/NEWS01/508190336

And I've got Senator Voinovich and congressman Dennis Kucinich and they'll soon have their ethnic Estonians, trained in Texas, USA, marching their "foreign asset" asses right down Euclid Avenue.

Warhman, answer a simple question:

What is the "mission"?

Let me help you break it up for you. Try answering it this way, you too BBB.

What is the "mission" about factually (not rhetoric and lies)?

What is the "mission" for factually (not rhetoric and lies)?

Try answering it anyway you'd like to, but please do it today or your credibility will be lower than Hades. You've (and BBB) already took too long to anwser considering you have been online and you haven't been off line at a FEMA training camp at Wal-Mart today.


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[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
If we don't finish the job now, I can guarantee you we'll be sending troops back in later to straighten out a worse mess. Possibly one after a major civil war or Syrian or Iranian occupation. There Phil, there is your answer.
I'll except that as your answer, because that's the best you can do.

That is still not a factual answer as to what is the "mission" in Iraq?

You're like the guy at the carnival who swings the mallet high over his head, hits the lever with all of his might, but doesn't ring the bell, in the carnival consession game.

No furry stuffed animal monkey for you, BBB.

You can always buy those stuffed monkeys at Wal-Mart when you're there for your FEMA training or the real thing, whichever comes to you first.

I wish the best for you.

Good luck.


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[Phil theStalker]

How about you, Warham.

BBB, has fallen in flames.

What is your answer as to the facts about what the "mission" is in Iraq?

I think Saddam would like to know, too.


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[Warham]

We're there as part of the grand plan for the New World Order or Novus Ordo Seclorum, Phil.

Satan's almost to the finish line. Now all he needs is to get the Antichrist installed, and we're all set for the fireworks on the Last Day.

[Warham]

http://babylonobserver.dubroom.org/200x200_nwo_dollar.jpg

You'll see the all seeing eye is at the top of the pyramid, separated from the base. This all-seeing eye are the ruling elite: the CFR, etc.

I'm sure you are aware of that.

Felix Frankfurter, Justice of the Supreme Court (1939-1962), said: "The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes."

[Warham]

The question you have to ask yourself is...am I serious or am I not?

Thus the title: Sheep Pen Man of Mystery®.

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by Warham
We're there as part of the grand plan for the New World Order or Novus Ordo Seclorum, Phil.

Satan's almost to the finish line. Now all he needs is to get the Antichrist installed, and we're all set for the fireworks on the Last Day.
Yeh, Labor Day. I may go to my beach house on the island just to be out of the cities when the clampdown happens.

Wait and see.

Cheney is totally in charge while congress and Bush are on vacation to Labor Day.


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[Warham]

No, the Last Day, not Labor Day.

Mat 24:27-29 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by Warham
No, the Last Day, not Labor Day.

Mat 24:27-29 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Well, with what I just told you about congress, Bush and Cheney I'm leaving town just in case.


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[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Phil theStalker
Well, with what I just told you about congress, Bush and Cheney I'm leaving town just in case.


:spank:

You live in Cleveland, don't you?

Nobody gives a damn about Cleveland.

You're safe, Phil. ;)

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
You live in Cleveland, don't you?

Nobody gives a damn about Cleveland.

You're safe, Phil. ;)
Oh, how wrong you are -- AGAIN.

Where was Edwards publicly launched as VP candidate?

Where did Flight 93 land for a bomb threat and take off from again on 9/11?

Where is FirstEnergy that got the blame for a tree touching a wire that knocked out most of the eastern U.S.?

What Ohio city/county hinged the Kerry/Bush vote held over the whole country?

Where did the American Rockefellers lay all of their ground work for the current global monopoly and world-government?

They have to wipe out Cleveland just to get rid of the evidence.


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[LoungeMachine]

The Mission?

Simple.


14 permanent military bases.

World's largest embassey

Launching point for war w/ Iran

Substitute for Saudi Arabia

Access and control of world's second largest oil reserve

Pulling Halliburton and others out of near bankruptcy

Finishing what daddy wouldn't, thus finally gaining his respect


And no, Warpig has NEVER given the "real reasons" he's known since 2003, and that have "never changed"

Why do you think he's being so defensive and crying "look it up yourself"

If he was proud and confident in his boast, he would have backed it up.

He knows the excuses have changed since "mission accomplished"

[LoungeMachine]

Furthermore

Can't we Americans "support the troops" in different ways?

Must we all act, think, and speak alike? Is that really what we have fought and died for? So we can all march lockstep with our leaders?

Celebrate Diversity.

God Bless The Seal's Mother

God Bless Cindy Sheehan

God Bless the Troops

God Bless the anti-war potesters


I see two scenarios that may occur.

1] Civil war in Iraq
2] An Islamic State

Was either of these part of our "mission"????

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
World's largest embassey
That world's largest embassey is going to cost a lot of American military boys, and fathers, and more daughters and moms, deaths.

They should call it The Bush Monument.


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[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by Phil theStalker
Where did Flight 93 land for a bomb threat and take off from again on 9/11?
You're going to want to thank me for this.

CLICK LINK BELOW TO LISTEN
Cleveland Air Traffic Control Recording of 9/11 Flight 93 (http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/flight93-air-traffic.htm)

I don't want to offend anybody, but the truth hurts, don't it.


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[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by Phil theStalker
You're going to want to thank me for this.

CLICK LINK BELOW TO LISTEN
Cleveland Air Traffic Control Recording of 9/11 Flight 93 (http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/flight93-air-traffic.htm)

I don't want to offend anybody, but the truth hurts, don't it.


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CLICK LINK BELOW TO READ LIVE MEDIA REPORT
"UNITED IDENTIFIED THE PLANE AS FLIGHT 93" (http://www.911inplanesite.com/bomb_threat.html)


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[Warham]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Furthermore

Can't we Americans "support the troops" in different ways?

Must we all act, think, and speak alike? Is that really what we have fought and died for? So we can all march lockstep with our leaders?

Celebrate Diversity.

God Bless The Seal's Mother

God Bless Cindy Sheehan

God Bless the Troops

God Bless the anti-war potesters


I see two scenarios that may occur.

1] Civil war in Iraq
2] An Islamic State

Was either of these part of our "mission"????

God bless you, tree hugger. ;)

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Warham
God bless you, tree hugger. ;)

No, God bless you , you warmonger you ;)



:group hug:

[Warham]

I agree that Americans should not be lock-step with the Administration's view on everything, no matter who's in office. America is The Melting Pot after all.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Warham
I agree that Americans should not be lock-step with the Administration's view on everything, no matter who's in office.

The Dems didn't say that just six years ago.

:gulp:

[Warham]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
The Dems didn't say that just six years ago.

:gulp:

Yep, they sucked Clinton's cock as much as Monica did.

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
No, God bless you , you warmonger you ;)



:group hug:

*sings*

Can you feel the love tonight...

[knuckleboner]

Originally posted by Phil theStalker
you dirty global socialist/fascist useful idiot:



well, at least i'm useful. so i got that going for me.

but i'll agree that i'm an idiot. cause i certainly don't understand your facts...

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by knuckleboner
well, at least i'm useful. so i got that going for me.

but i'll agree that i'm an idiot. cause i certainly don't understand your facts...
I meant it affectionately. I love you dearly. Don't be so hard on yourself.:rolleyes:


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[knuckleboner]

dude, i was kidding!

i actually thought the whole facist-socialist useful idiot crack was pretty funny.


(i always knew there was a reason i didn't have you on ignore...;))